Posts by stormybadger8

It’s probably because they ignored "his order." This time, he knows he's partially to blame too. 😉

Jason Campbell70 said:I can tell him whatever I want over the radio, just don't expect me to give him driving advice.

You sure about that?
I thought there was some explanation about them not being allowed to comment on other teams' timing or issues, but since I heard that on ESPN, I'm not buying it. 😬

Lately, this crew has been constantly—and I mean chronically—messing up. 🤦
Ted tried telling us the Spanish King came to visit Ericsson 🤣 and then he swapped that big shot Gaschot for Boutsen...
Meanwhile, the commentators were scratching their heads wondering how Vettel could pit and come out ahead of a driver who's 15-17 seconds behind him. 😁

Honestly, maybe there was just some massive party in Monaco and they got distracted by a hangout with the Mercedes engineers. 😬
That would explain pretty much everything. 🤣

Jason Campbell70 said:Man.

Lewis Hamilton wasn't even allowed to be in the pit lane back then.
Period.

That’s the second pair of shoes 😁
Seriously, what can you say when he panics? Under the new rules, I don't think he was even supposed to ask what everyone else was doing out on the track 🤔
and those big shots in Germany didn't have the guts to tell him to stay out instead of pitting...

It's a good thing Ross Brawn isn't running that team anymore. With a car like that, from the start of the 2014 season until now, Lewis Hamilton would've been the only one winning...
Maybe Nico Rosberg would snag a win once or twice, but let's be real—there's no way anyone else stands a chance.

Jason Campbell70 said:Oh sure, he only lost two spots because he missed his pit box by less than half a meter.

One for sure... maybe even both, since that mistake basically set off a massive chain reaction.
That’s exactly why the pit stop was so slow, and then he had to sit there waiting to be released just to avoid an unsafe release penalty...
We're talking precious seconds here, especially when he exited the pits barely half a meter behind Sebastian Vettel and maybe 7-8 meters behind Nico Rosberg...

jadeseal7 said:If Fernando Alonso gets hit with a penalty, then Ricciardo should have too. Honestly, Kimi might as well retire next year and focus on his family... his best years were clearly spent in WRC.

Watching the replay again, I’d actually argue Ricciardo probably deserved the penalty even more than Alonso did.
Sure, the fallout is different. The damage Alonso caused to Hulkenberg was huge—which is likely why he got flagged—whereas Ricciardo’s move on Kimi didn't leave any physical wreckage. But let's be real: Alonso stayed right alongside Hulkenberg for a long stretch, forcing Hulk to yield, so you can't claim he was blindsided or forced off. Ricciardo’s situation was a totally different beast, aggressively shoving someone right where there's zero room to maneuver...

Bottom line? Given how it all went down, the penalty should have been identical, if not handed out to Ricciardo even sooner than Alonso.

Jason Campbell70 said:Lewis Hamilton doesn't even bother looking at the guys next to him on the track; he just senses exactly how his car is behaving. Maybe it’s smart to pit. I could be in trouble with my tires, and if I don't, Vettel might just jump me on those supersofts right after the restart.

The crew on the pit wall—sitting there staring at a dozen monitors packed with every tiny detail, full track views, and driver gaps measured down to the thousandth of a second: Pit stop for tires, and you're back in the lead.

Here’s how it goes down: Lewis Hamilton hits the pits and rolls out in third.

It’s all on them.
The crew on the pit wall.
b) the crew on the pit wall
The crew on the pit wall.
All of the above.

As if Hamilton has anything to do with anything while the race is actually going on...
So, there you have it:
Doesn't matter what his crew tells him about staying out; he's still over the radio telling them he needs to pit.
He seriously can't see that he picked up an SC on track right before hitting the pits? He’s driving like he's got lead in his shoes.
- He can't even see the lines in the pit box, so who cares if he ends up half a meter off his mark?Look, honestly, none of that even matters because of how things played out. Pit stop was way too slow.
It doesn't matter if he’s got a significantly faster car or even those fresh tires compared to them. He still can't find a way to get past Vettel or Rosberg on the track. Even with a beast of a car that's clearly quicker than Vettel's, he's just stuck.

Oh, sure. And of course Hamilton has absolutely zero connection to any of this and bears zero responsibility. It’s all just entirely, exclusively on the crew... because clearly, it's not his fault at all that he ended up in third.
So, I’m just wondering—does this logic work in reverse? If Hamilton actually pulls off a win, is that also somehow entirely the team's doing while he just sits there with zero credit? 🙂

Man, Hamilton was absolutely killing it for about three-quarters of that race, but that final stretch? Not so much. Still, he handled the whole mess like a total pro. Mad respect to him for that.
Honestly, sitting here crying about how hard his life is? Total nonsense. Even he knows how ridiculous that sounds, which is exactly why he made that comment about winning and losing as a team.
No fanboys seem to get that this is a team sport. They just keep singing the same old songs about how the crew screwed Hamilton over and how he’s some flawless, untouchable phenomenon.

Alexander Gonzalez79 said:What kind of comparisons are even these?!!!!!😵😵 Let me just go grab another drink first. 😵 😵

Does an Olympic sprinter have a pit wall and 20 specialists dedicated solely to their sprint? That exact same pit wall is responsible for analyzing data and deciding whether to call a driver in for a stop or not. They’re the ones making the calls—calls that clearly turned out to be wrong this time.

If only the pit wall hadn't botched the decision in the first place...
But hey, we've got our "brave" Lewis, who—on top of everything else going wrong—missed his box entry. Because of that, he bled about 1.5 seconds during the stop. Honestly, that would have been plenty of time to pull ahead of not just Vettel, but Rosberg too. ☕

mellowtiger83 said:So how on earth was he better than Rosberg? Really interesting, haha.🤣, I honestly don't even feel like responding to this; you're just tripping over your own feet here.

Man, he left him 20 seconds in the exact same car.🤦

Rosberg didn't leave him 20 seconds when you look at the full two-year stretch and the overall advantage.

Who left who 20 seconds where exactly? 🤦
A race lasts from start to finish, not just from lap 1 to lap 62...
I guess you learned that in preschool while they were telling you the story about the tortoise and the hare...☕

Besides, why lie? Hamilton's biggest lead during the actual race was 15 seconds (everything else was thanks to the SC, not his driving), and even half of those 15 seconds happened because of Sainz, Merhi, Stevens, and the rest... actually, before Rosberg and Vettel ran into Sainz and traffic, the gap was only about 7-8 seconds. And I really don't see any connection between Sainz, Merhi, Stevens, Grosjean, and Button holding up Rosberg and how that relates to Hamilton's driving skills. 🙄

Roger Wright94 said:He was so much better he basically left them in the dust.

If he actually was better, he would’ve won. Everything else is just fairy tales...
It wasn't a blown tire or a mechanical failure; it was more like he and his entire crew had a collective meltdown.

Look, you can call someone a world-class sprinter if they crush the first 75 meters of a 100-meter dash, but if they trip over their own feet at the finish line, they aren't the rightful winner.😁

steelmaker83 said:He’ll always be a lightweight, and any real expert will see right through him as a fraud. The marketing gurus will do their job, sure, but those who actually know the sport will see the truth.

So, is Lewis Hamilton a complete idiot? Yeah. Is there anyone on the track right now who can touch him? No. Not even close.

Honestly, it's probably a good thing he's a bit dim, just to give the rest of them a fighting chance. Imagine if he was actually smart too—would there even be a point in letting him race against these kids? He’d absolutely demolish them all the way to Silverstone, every single time.

Nature eventually finds a way to balance things out. That's why the guy's a bit slow on the uptake. And that's why a mediocre driver like Nico Rosberg actually has a shot at something.

And hey, that's fine. That's just how the world works. It would be ridiculous if it were any different.

If Lewis Hamilton weren't such an airhead, the marketing suits wouldn't be hyping him up so much.🤣
What on earth are you talking about? The marketing guys only hype Lewis; nobody gives a damn about Rosberg.
Actually, B. E. made that pretty clear one of these days.🤣

On the flip side, if Lewis were smarter and wasn't so empty-headed, he’d be more like Jenson Button or Fernando Alonso. He’d have ended up as runner-up in 2010, 2011, and 2012...
But then he wouldn't be such a fan favorite anymore because he wouldn't drive with that wild, aggressive style. Instead, he'd be calm and composed, just like he was in Monaco.
Back in the day, old Lewis would have charged at Sebastian Vettel, regardless of the cost, even on the same tires or with a slower car.
But this new version didn't even try, despite having faster new soft tires, being 30 laps younger, and having the absolute best car on the grid. He didn't even attempt it...

What’s even the point of being the best if you aren't actually winning...
And as for why Hamilton was supposedly better than Rosberg in Monaco? Probably because unlike Rosberg, he only used his hands and feet instead of his brain...

vividlynx68 said:Hamilton lost about 7 or 8 seconds to Rosberg in the second sector during his in-lap. Either way, Mercedes-Benz decided to go for broke and pulled him in for the pit stop.

[Link to article about the 2015 Monaco GP victory]

Man, I am so done with these "expert" British analyses. Give me a break. 🤦
It’s hard to tell who’s talking more nonsense around here...

The team was basically playing defense, trying to stay one step ahead of Ferrari. They were terrified that if they didn't act, Ferrari would just pit Vettel onto supersofts and let him tear right through them once the race restarted.

This is completely irrelevant. It’s just as mindless as those hacks over at Sky arguing about whether Vettel should have pitted when he was sitting less than a second behind Rosberg between laps 27 and 30.
Good grief, it’s like looking at a room full of people who have never even seen a single Formula 1 race, let alone a Monaco Grand Prix. 🤦

If Vettel had gone for that first theoretical undercut between laps 27 and 30—which, by the way, was what the Sky crew was recommending—he might have actually ended up stuck behind Kimi Raikkonen at the finish. 🙄 It’s pretty simple, really. If he pits, he’d have to come out right behind Kimi Raikkonen, Sergio Perez, and Max Verstappen—none of whom stand a prayer of catching him that quickly, even if he could pull it off. Not to mention the massive gap he’d need to build on Nico Rosberg just to stay ahead. Then there's the nightmare scenario: trying to nurse 50-lap-old tires while praying all three of them don't pit before him. It's a mess.

That whole thing about Vettel pitting under the Safety Car is nothing but pure nonsense. 🤦
If Vettel had pitted there, he would’ve definitely dropped behind Kimi Raikkonen and Daniil Kvyat, and probably even lost out to Ricciardo too.
Ricciardo was sitting right on Sebastian Vettel's heels, about 19.8 seconds back. He might have even managed to snatch a spot ahead of him, but there was no way he was catching Daniil Kvyat or Kimi Raikkonen—they were nearly 18 seconds clear of him.
I honestly don't get where these experts get their ideas. Who in their right mind thinks calling Sebastian Vettel in for a pit stop just to slot him behind three drivers who might not even pit at all is a smart move? Makes zero sense.🙄

Joseph Edwards86 said:Nico Rosberg absolutely screwed Lewis Hamilton. He was driving way too fast under the Safety Car on purpose.

Honestly, I’d say he actually messed him over a lap earlier when he was driving incredibly slow...
Just look at the times—Hamilton clocked a 1:33 while Rosberg was sitting there at 1:39...
That’s exactly what triggered the pit wall to start thinking about bringing Hamilton in, because right at that moment, Hamilton suddenly had a massive 20-second lead.😉

Alexander Gonzalez79 said:One clip showed Hamilton driving right behind the Safety Car before he peeled off into the pits, so I'm guessing that explains those 12 seconds.

It’s totally possible—actually, probably even likely—that the Safety Car just bunched him up right before his pit entry. He likely caught up to it early in the lap...
But even if that's the case, it's still on Hamilton. 😉
He should've known better. He had to realize he'd lose a massive amount of time sitting behind the Safety Car while everyone else, especially Nico Rosberg and Sebastian Vettel, were clearly moving much faster than him at that moment.

darkmarlin16 said:So basically, if you build a 21-second gap, you haven't demoted the other guy—he's demoted you.

And who exactly built that 21-second lead, and why?
Maybe try watching the race again... 😉
or at least run some analysis before dropping claims like that. link Just click on the history chart.

Lewis only pulled ahead because of traffic. Until Pascal Wehrlein, Daniel Stevens, Max Verstappen, Romain Grosjean, and Carlos Sainz Jr. got involved, that gap was pretty much negligible...
Plus, for some inexplicable reason, Lewis was pulling laps about 7 seconds faster than Nico Rosberg under the Virtual Safety Car. Now, whether Rosberg was told to hold up Sebastian Vettel just to let Hamilton pit or not, I have no clue, but it’s damn weird that under VSC, Lewis is running a 1:33 while Rosberg is sitting on a 1:39. 🤔

MMP said:Maybe his lap was that slow because of the Virtual Safety Car limiting his speed?

No way, absolutely zero chance.😉
A.) If that were the case, everyone would be slowed down equally, not just Lewis Hamilton being about 12 seconds slower than the rest of the pack.
B.) The actual Safety Car was already out on track long before Hamilton even started that lap where he pitted.

cosmiccyclist8 said:Why is Toto acting so high and mighty?

Probably because he gets a cut of the cash Mexico pays out for every single Lewis Hamilton win. 😬

Gary Palmer8 said:Man, you're clearly listening to that clown Novak way too much.

Honestly, why bother listening to any journalist spewing nonsense? Just check the data on FIA.com. It’s staring you in the face: this was Lewis Hamilton's mistake, and his alone. He's the one who really screwed this up.

He didn't lose time in the pits or coming out of them—he lost it during the lap itself, right before he even hit the pit lane...
And he should've known better. There was zero breathing room to lose another 10-15 seconds in the pits and still come out ahead of the pack.

Regardless of what the telemetry says or if the screen tells him everything is fine, he's got eyes. He knows he's running a lap that's roughly 10-15 seconds slower than the last one. 🤦
Bottom line: if Nico Rosberg hadn't slowed down so drastically right before Lewis Hamilton pitted, he wouldn't have even been in the same zip code as Sebastian Vettel and Nico Rosberg. He would've been trailing them by maybe 5-10 seconds at best.

neonfox65 said:Mercedes-Benz: We totally screwed Hamilton's race

I don't buy this for a second. It's just not true. 😳

lap time:
Code:

It’s a total mystery why Hamilton's lap was about 11-12 seconds slower 😲 than everyone else hitting the pits, especially since his pit stop itself was basically as fast as the rest...

Pit time:
Code:

Clearly, Hamilton is the one who botched it with a painfully slow lap approaching the pits. Either he went wide, braked way too early, or caught the SC...
Hard to blame the crew when he's the one driving a much slower lap than necessary. Let's be real, he definitely knew he was bleeding massive amounts of time before pulling in...

There was plenty of space to pit and get back out with a huge advantage.
He probably didn't go off on the team because he knew damn well he was largely responsible for this mess.

neonfox65 said:I'm sitting here thinking about that mess at the Monaco GP and those controversial calls from Mercedes-Benz. If that hadn't happened, what would we even be talking about after the race? We've got Canada in two weeks.

Yeah, right. I'm sure they did it all just to give us something to gossip about.🤣🤣🤣

Gary Palmer8 said:Man, people really love to hate Lewis Hamilton. 🙂 Everyone’s out here trying to shift the blame onto some incompetent pit wall strategist who made the final call to bring him in.

I’d almost say everyone’s just making stuff up at this point...
The reality is Lewis Hamilton was right—he knew those tires were shot when he asked for the box. But the pit wall wasn't totally wrong either; they saw enough of a gap when they finally gave him the signal...

Honestly, Scuderia Ferrari screwed him on track. Lewis Hamilton caught them before he even pitted, which is where he lost those crucial one or two seconds (plus the pit wall was too slow to react) + then they topped it off with a sluggish pit stop...

On top of that, the Lap Time app threw a flag around lap 50 saying Hamilton's telemetry had failed, even though his lap times were still showing up...
And while you could see sector times, the live track view showed his car just sitting parked on the grid...
It's entirely possible the crew was relying on gaps via Brawn GP's Lap Time app, which is about as reliable as a screen door on a submarine. 😬

Bottom line? It was just a total clusterfuck. Hard to pin it on just one person when there are so many moving parts and outside factors involved. And honestly, trying to figure out who actually pulls the trigger on these calls seems like a nightmare. In Mexico, it looks like there are way too many layers of bureaucracy involved, which clearly makes them too slow to make a decision...