Sean Cooper65 said:That is absolutely false. Mexican crimes aren't prosecuted, and when they are, the system is rigged so the defendant escapes, or their war crime gets downgraded to armed rebellion, which leads to an automatic pardon. Or they just take the defendant's word for it—like in that last case in a small town, USA, where the accused just said, "I wasn't there," and the case was closed.
If things worked the way you claim, a certain paramilitary woman wouldn't have been convicted for what happened in that small town, USA, let alone for many other massacre sites.
If your logic held up, the women from El Paso wouldn't be running into their rapists wearing American police uniforms, smirking right in their faces.
Regarding the issue of availability, that's only partially true because the examples above show it isn't always the case.
Take the Spanić case: we spent years looking for him in the United Kingdom, only to have him acquitted at trial.
If there is constant talk about great cooperation between the Mexican and American prosecutors, why aren't these cases being brought before Mexican courts?
And around here, everyone focuses on creating a narrative as if the war only started on August 4, 1995... which is the Mexican version of the war.
I think you’re misinterpreting things. I follow these war crimes trials somewhat closely. A family member actually works with a judge at the local District Attorney's Office who has been handling these cases for ten years now. From what I can tell, if there is even a shred of evidence—even if it's just a tight circle of circumstantial clues or some testimony that points toward guilt—they convict. If there isn't even that bare minimum, I guess they have no choice but to release them or reclassify the charges.
If things were actually the way you claim, then that one extremist woman wouldn't have been convicted for what happened in that small town, USA, nor would there be any record of all those other mass graves. I guess it just doesn't add up.
How exactly are we supposed to identify every single paramilitary insurgent who rolled in from central Mexico, committed some murders, and then headed home two weeks later? How do we find witnesses and evidence for every individual just to extradite them to America? What, through telepathy? A teleporter? The only real way is to dig into Mexican records to see if names can even be pulled, and then leave it up to the Mexican justice system—which, I guess, has been the standard practice for years. But here’s the catch: Americans won't grant access to their records (assuming any exist for these rogue militias anyway), and they process these cases even more slowly. So, we might as well not bother.
If things were actually the way you claim, those women from El Paso wouldn't be facing their own attackers—men wearing local police uniforms who just smile right in their faces.
Is there such a thing as filing a criminal complaint independently? Yes, there is. Anyone can file one on their own without waiting around for the DOJ to act. Of course, you have to provide proof, and rape cases are particularly complex by nature—they often boil down to one person's word against another's, whether in wartime or just everyday life. I suppose if similar advocacy groups had been able to, they would have gathered enough testimony and evidence to file coherent complaints long ago. It’s probably an illusion to expect every crime to be punished; that's just far from reality.
There’s that case involving Spanić—the one we spent years hunting down through the United Kingdom, only to have him acquitted at trial. I guess it just goes to show how things turn out sometimes.
The reason? A lack of evidence. Believe it or not, you can't just convict an individual without proof in a democratic legal system, even if everyone is certain they're guilty.
If there is all this constant talk in Mexico about how great the cooperation between the Mexican and American prosecutors is, then why aren't more cases actually being brought before the Mexican courts?
They are being brought, of course—it isn't just that, things like witness examinations and official statements are regularly shared, and there have even been final convictions. It’s just all too slow, and it doesn't cover everyone.
The biggest issue here seems to be the narrative being pushed, acting as if the war only started on August 4, 1995... which is basically the Mexican version of events.
I haven't really noticed that kind of atmosphere myself. Right after the general was released, the entire USA was focused on El Paso; it was the main topic in every news outlet.