Megan White4 said:Perhaps I am, but two wrongs don't make a right. And frankly, I have no intention of apologizing to her until my ban from the photography section is lifted, and she stops harassing people and spamming threads with those rule warnings she's so pathologically obsessed with... ☕
Stop playing games and making drama out of nothing. 🙄
I told you already—just take a step back, offer an apology, and wave the white flag. Of course, that’s all assuming you actually mean it! If you do, even the moderators will have to step in—even if they aren't used to dealing with this kind of thing—and you'll eventually find a solution that works for everyone.
As for why Steven Ruiz is so obsessed with the rules? Just look at how many years he's been hanging around here. Women tend to lose their minds a little bit in this environment—it happens—so you just have to be more careful and tactical with them. There's really no point in digging your heels in and saying, "I won't apologize, they need to do this and that," because you aren't going to get anywhere. You'll just stay banned, and the mods will use it as a precedent to keep doing whatever they want.
If you can manage to get your access to the photo gallery restored gracefully and smooth things over with Steven Ruiz, maybe the rest of these sheep will finally wake up and realize the mods can't just do whatever they feel like. They're already talking about leaking private messages and potential penalties. This whole situation could be a massive learning moment—not just for you and the mods, but for the entire forum.
Daniel Ward87 said:Yeah... dealing with people spewing nonsense at the moderators is really the Administrator's call...
That said, I'm with Michelle Alvarez8—leaking private messages in public isn't right 👍. But think about this: what if the Admin drops a ban because someone sent an insulting PM to a mod, and then that user goes to the KzB complaining they have no idea why they got sanctioned? How do you prove it without showing the message? If the reason just says "due to an insulting PM," people are going to start spinning stories, claiming it's fake or demanding proof—even though the rule against sharing PMs still stands 🤷
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The Admin who hands out the ban should just send the user a private message explaining exactly why. It's that simple! That's basically the bare minimum of what an Admin should be doing, right? They exist to support the users and the mods, not the other way around.
Megan White4 said:And because I was "getting under their skin," Steven Ruiz (or some self-important administrator she's cozy with) slapped a permanent ban on my photography. It wasn't even about what I actually did with the photo; it was "preventative." Apparently, mentioning something I might do on another site was enough to make her feel threatened....
Look, Steven Ruiz doesn't need to suck up to the admins. She’s one of those people who is moderator by default—so whatever she pulls, she isn't going to get in trouble for it. I don't get why you're picking a fight with her when she's totally fine. She's just dim enough to be a moderator on a forum like this, but smart enough not to be an administrator. Personally, I'm cool with it.
Just go ahead and offer her a nice little apology here, then sit tight until she shows up with her response. Just agree to keep a respectful distance, keep all your chats strictly professional, and they'll give you your access back to the photography section. If everyone just takes a step back, waves the white flag, and plays nice, everything will be just fine. You'll have your access back, and Steven Ruiz will know you're going to behave. Because at the end of the day, you just want that access, right? 😉
Look... Steven Ruiz is practically a rookie compared to some of the old-school and current admins—just let her be. She definitely messed up big time with the President, but honestly, you aren't exactly innocent for sending him off like that either. All you guys really need to do is offer a sincere apology to one another and get back to the usual fun stuff.
Is it just me, or is Mafia Wars acting up for everyone else too..? 😵
Of course. What’s permitted for Jupiter isn't necessarily permitted for an ox... or, to put it more plainly: what's acceptable for a moderator doesn't always apply to the average forum user.
It’s hard to argue that a single DM counts as spamming—certainly not compared to someone flooding the boards with endless posts. If you don't start following the Golden Rule, I'm going to have to take matters into my own hands.There are certain points that keep popping up in the photography threads. They’re mostly just facts mixed with a little sarcasm and some lighthearted ribbing—hardly what anyone would call heavy insults. If someone finds themselves unable to take a joke, honestly, that's their own problem. ☕
Sure. Let's see who actually holds the moderator titles then... ☕
The good old days. ☕
I have my doubts. ☕
I assume this is directed my way, but what’s the deal with moderators like Kiki? They can be such a pain in the ass, constantly nitpicking over every tiny rule violation and cluttering the forum with posts like "The Golden Rule must be respected." Is it just me, or does that whole vibe feel a bit too much like "Big Brother is watching you"?
Unless they enjoy the privilege of being a forum moderator... It’s a known truth that in certain situations, there’s a clear distinction: What’s the difference between God and a forum moderator? God doesn't walk around thinking he's a forum moderator. ☕
By the way, I know this is off-topic, but I’m genuinely curious about how that works. On the Diaspora subforum, you're allowed to include up to six images per post.That’s the rule, with a few possible exceptions. Meanwhile, over on the photography forum—where there's actually a legitimate reason to include more than a few shots per post—you're strictly capped at four. If you go over, they just wipe the extras regardless of the context. Honestly, that's exactly what triggered this whole mess between me and Kiki.
From this, I know you weren't giving Jane Doe a hard time back then. Because if you were, the FBI would have shown up, taken your head off, and—well, you know—left you in a bad way. 😁
Of course. What’s permitted for Jupiter isn't necessarily permitted for an ox... or, to put it more plainly: what's acceptable for a moderator doesn't always apply to the average forum user.
It’s hard to argue that a single DM counts as spamming—certainly not compared to someone flooding the boards with endless posts. If you don't start following the Golden Rule, I'm going to have to take matters into my own hands.There are certain points that keep popping up in the photography threads. They’re mostly just facts mixed with a little sarcasm and some lighthearted ribbing—hardly what anyone would call heavy insults. If someone finds themselves unable to take a joke, honestly, that's their own problem. ☕
Sure. Let's see who actually holds the moderator titles then... ☕
The good old days. ☕
I have my doubts. ☕
I assume this is directed my way, but what’s the deal with moderators like Kiki? They can be such a pain in the ass, constantly nitpicking over every tiny rule violation and cluttering the forum with posts like "The Golden Rule must be respected." Is it just me, or does that whole vibe feel a bit too much like "Big Brother is watching you"?
Unless they enjoy the privilege of being a forum moderator... It’s a known truth that in certain situations, there’s a clear distinction: What’s the difference between God and a forum moderator? God doesn't walk around thinking he's a forum moderator. ☕
By the way, I know this is off-topic, but I’m genuinely curious about how that works. On the Diaspora subforum, you're allowed to include up to six images per post.That’s the rule, with a few possible exceptions. Meanwhile, over on the photography forum—where there's actually a legitimate reason to include more than a few shots per post—you're strictly capped at four. If you go over, they just wipe the extras regardless of the context. Honestly, that's exactly what triggered this whole mess between me and Kiki.
Ah, those classic "we're stepping on you just because we can" moves. It’s like when the teller at my bank tells me my credit card can't be fully paid off—it has to stay revolving. Then the guys in the credit department tell me it *can* be paid in full. So I end up getting jerked around for two weeks straight. Eventually, I just lose it, leave work early, walk into the branch, and chew her out so hard she has to call the manager. And I had already worked everything out perfectly with the manager! Of course, my card ended up deactivated anyway, even though it got reactivated without me signing a single thing.
It's the same deal with moderators. Just by being on this forum, you've accepted the fact that you're gonna get squeezed from time to time. And honestly? That's fine. As long as they aren't crushing you completely. Then it starts to sting. But you're smart—you come prepared with plenty of grease and some good old-fashioned Vaseline, which is basically a staple in every household. Including our little forum family.
They hit you with infractions and bans, and you hit them with whatever snarky comments you can muster. We're all just bumping heads like a bunch of wild monkeys. And hey, it's great—provided we don't go overboard. That's why we have administrators to keep us in line. Mr. Pink, White, Dante, and the rest.
Man, this forum has been a mess ever since Vienna left. You could actually have a decent argument with her and settle things. 😢
Of course not. Do I really have to explain for the third time why I got banned over there? 😁
Anyway, it's "Vogue Critiques for Brave Forum Ladies." I think it popped up around last summer. But hey—enter at your own risk. The level of nonsense in there is off the charts; honestly, if you want to see peak stupidity, just look at the Ivano Balić thread over on chicken. It’s definitely not for everyone.
hiddensailor14 said:Hmm, let's get specific. A while back, I received a PM claiming my mother paid for my college tuition with money earned from... well, engaging in sexual acts with local American dogs, specifically Great Danes, and that she was some kind of star on various bestiality sites because of it. In the real world, someone like that would simply be crushed😠 So, how do you handle that kind of thing on a forum?
Believe it or not, this forum is basically one giant sandbox filled with cool toys—but also plenty of crap. Honestly, the worst thing you can do—worse than stepping in a pile of doo-doo—is actually taking any of this seriously. And that's exactly what happens when you give attention to people sending stuff like that.
That's just how I see things—just my two cents on how this whole forum works.
Since you asked, I’d say there are really only two ways to handle it. Option one: a) delete the message; b) hit them with the ignore button; c) just forget about it.
Option two: a) laugh it off; b) troll the idiot whenever you're bored just to get an extra chuckle out of it.
That’s pretty much my playbook for hanging out here. Since I don't take this place seriously at all, the crowd that lives for "forum ego" has a massive problem with me. I've added a few of them to my ignore list—though, unfortunately, you can't ignore the moderators—but I still troll them just enough to pass the time and laugh at the ridiculous stuff they write to defend their precious online status.
cosmictinker21 said:Leaking private messages is a double-edged sword. If someone gets hit with a barrage of insults, their immediate instinct is to warn everyone else about what kind of jerk they're dealing with—especially if the mods refuse to shut down the guy despite being asked. It's just human nature... that first impulse is basically: "Screw this idiot, let everyone else know he's a loser so they can stay away."
Still, it’s definitely rude to take something completely private and blast it publicly just out of spite or because you misread the room.
I guess I just wonder who gets to be the judge of what counts...🤷
It’s simple, really—you can warn people without airing out private messages. A quick note like: "X keeps sending me messages where they y my family is plenty. That’s a totally understandable human reaction. But posting a private message? That’s never okay. Besides, if there's complaining to be done, it should go "up" the chain, not "down." So, Kiki—acting as a moderator—can just pass that private message along to the super-mods or the admins. There's absolutely no reason to post it where the whole forum can see it.
Harassment via private messages is such a messy area, too—not just because of what we saw here, but because it's so incredibly easy to fake or edit a message when you forward it. Maybe screenshots could solve that? It would just take some genuine effort and positive energy—mostly from the people in charge. Being a leader on paper is one thing, but actually leading is another story entirely.
* Maybe even skip the super-mods, since they're technically below moderators on the hierarchy. They're more like "sub-staff," right? ** Posting a private message like this is just incredibly rude and uncultured. An experienced, veteran moderator should definitely know better.
So, let me get this straight—we're posting photos of you kissing your three-year-old on the mouth, sharing them on a forum, and then actually punishing anyone who dares to say it’s gross?
Hint: I don't have kids, and I'm totally over fashion. 😁
John Hill said:Alright, look, I moved this thread to where it actually belongs. And just to be clear, decisions like this aren't made by Jose White18 alone, or by me, or any single moderator acting on their own. These three specific threads have been a mess for a long time now. Originally, there was just one single discussion about cheating. Then, a few women showed up claiming they didn't fit into that specific conversation, so three separate threads about adultery were opened. We allowed them because we wanted to be accommodating; we thought splitting things up would cut down on the constant bickering by letting people group themselves by interest. Instead, it just created these little cliques that ended up warring with each other. In any other normal situation, when threads get this out of hand—where moderation becomes a nightmare because we're constantly deleting arguments—you’d just lock them down. But because we wanted to cater to the regulars who frequent these topics, we kept putting it off. Eventually, we hit on the idea of moving them to a section of the forum with more relaxed rules, so they can still have their space to hang out. As for ZUD, we might eventually open a new thread regarding infidelity for new people interested in the subject, but this time without all the fragmentation and the clan warfare.
So, how do you actually plan on pulling this off technically? The clans are already set—unless you've got some kind of gadget from Men in Black, there's really nothing you can do about it.
No offense intended, but honestly? The current rules are actually pretty solid, especially considering who put them together.
By letting private messages be posted—and not slapping anyone with a penalty for it—we’re setting a really nasty precedent. Just try looking at it from the perspective of someone whose private DMs were leaked. I wouldn't be feeling too great about it myself, whether it was meant as a joke, some teasing, or straight-up cyberbullying.
It gets even messier when a moderator is allowed to post a user's private message without any consequences at all—regardless of what it says. Instead of Kiki and Toc trying to fix things by leaking private messages, moderators should be handling those issues privately with the admins. Plus, I find it hard to believe a regular user would get away with posting a private message from a moderator. And let’s be real—if the mods (and admins) know how to send abusive messages... they definitely do.
Double standards are never a "quality" solution, you know? But since they seem to be a constant here on this forum—I guess it's just part of the charm, right?
Peter Sellers in "Dr. Strangelove" ... Arnold Schwarzenegger in "Terminator 2" ... Gregory Peck in "To Kill a Mockingbird" .
Bonus: Jack Nicholson—well, he’s great playing any kind of maniac or psycho. But honestly? I never actually felt like he was *acting* the part. He just is. 😁
Michelle Alvarez8, look, I specifically asked to be assigned to Seth. If someone tries to suck up to Anderson and then points the finger at me, that’s on them. 😁
hollowtrucker77 said:Look, every single one of your on-topic posts is still sitting right here
Oh wow! Congrats on missing the mark again—I was actually wondering why your post was even showing up. On a scale of 1 to 10, how much did you have to suck up to Anderson to get back in? 😉