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Wage garnishments and collections in Law · Oct 5, 2016

Kenneth Brown5 said:I'm not entirely sure what my monthly check looks like, but let's just say it's roughly around $833.
When you're dealing with a court-ordered seizure, it's basically like someone's trying to muscle their way onto your property and wreck your stuff through a lawsuit.🤦

So, once the judge hands down a decision, how does the creditor actually go about getting their money from me?

If anyone wants to dig into the specifics, just hit me up via DM.

Well, once the court hands down a judgment, the creditor basically sends the debtor an official demand for payment.
If the debtor claims they don't have enough cash on hand to settle the debt, they might try to negotiate an installment plan. Of course, that's entirely up to the creditor—they aren't obligated to accept some trickle of payments if they think it'll drag on forever. If the creditor decides it's better to just go after physical assets, they can initiate a seizure against any real estate or personal property registered in the debtor's name.
Just a heads-up, though—under US law, you generally can't touch more than a third of a pension of $833, which would be about $277 per month.

Wild Capitalism in Economy · Oct 4, 2016

rowdypilot19 said:If it’s state-run, I guess everyone in the company and the government just ends up looting the place. But if it’s private? Then it feels like everyone is just trying to bend the rules or score deals with the government through bribing politicians.

It’s honestly dangerous either way if things spiral out of control, and let's be real, they usually do. 😁

That’s exactly why my former colleague ended up losing everything:

Wild Capitalism in Economy · Oct 2, 2016

Amy Brooks13 said:There’s an interesting piece by Ratko Bošković in today's Time Magazine under the unfettered capitalism section, titled "Ownership restructuring with so much looting that the players are hunted down like murderers."

The author lays out the basics pretty well, but if you actually know how this stuff works, it’s obvious he missed the point entirely. I’m going to drop my own analysis to explain what’s actually controversial here and how this mess should finally be settled. Honestly, I even have some skin in the game on this one.

I checked back to see when the previous comment was posted. Turns out it was May 2005. Either that's terrible, or just "great."

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Wage garnishments and collections in Law · Sep 28, 2016

rowdyraven112 said:The police are just there to establish the facts. Even our fellow forum member Drot can confirm that 😉. The cops show up, see who actually holds the key to the lock. Since the locks have been changed, the police are going to politely escort our friend Peter off the property. And honestly? Peter should be happy if he manages to walk away without getting slapped with a disorderly conduct charge. At that point, the owner can simply testify that they’ve never seen this guy before, the unit was completely vacant when they moved in, and they’ve lived there for a year and a half already. The police aren't there to hold town hall meetings with the neighbors or take statements. I shouldn't have to spell out that under the law, if an apartment is vacant, a life tenant loses their right to occupy it. Plus, the neighbors get rid of the problem easily. It's better to stay on good terms with the new owner than to end up in a feud with the neighbors.

Sure, Peter can try to fight for his rights in court, but the reality is that Peter will never step foot in that apartment again.
The owner can also invest some $17 into replacing tiles, fixing walls, or upgrading the interior woodwork.
In any potential lawsuit, what is Peter going to ask about? The color of the tiles? The walls? The woodwork? When the expert witness rules that Peter is in the wrong... not only does Peter lose the apartment, but he'll be paying off legal fees for the rest of his life.

If anyone thinks this is impossible, let me bring up that collection dispute decided by an overturned judgment involving a sanitation department in Chicago. Basically, the sanitation department initiated a collection action; the debtor appealed, and a lawsuit followed. During the trial, the debtor argued he had been managing his own waste disposal during that period—he even had a few receipts from scrap metal and paper recycling centers and organic waste pickups... man was practically an eco-freak—claiming the city wasn't picking up his trash. The city tried to prove the waste was collected, but all they produced was a pickup schedule, which isn't actual proof to a judge that the trash was actually hauled away. So, out of nowhere, the debtor pulls out a newspaper article showing the city hadn't run garbage trucks for three weeks due to snow. In the end, the collection action fell apart.

Look, it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that both Peter and the sanitation department are morally and ethically in the right. But legally? Courts are stupid. And judges are forced to follow that stupidity. Citizens are too, based on the letters the Department of Justice sends to dissatisfied people. You can call me a theoretical conspiracy theorist all you want, but the facts in numerous court rulings say otherwise.

Peter could easily be a total loose cannon—he might just dump a whole canister of cyanoacrylate into the dam. Or, even better, find some worn-out old key that fits the lock but won't actually turn it, smear the damn thing with superglue while it's sitting in the cylinder, and then just snap it off with a pair of pliers. Simple, really.
You’re basically stuck calling both the police and a locksmith because someone absolutely trashed the place—it’s just pure, unadulterated vandalism at this point. On top of the damage, they actually broke into the apartment too. Now we’re facing a real headache: proving whether someone used an original key or forced their way in is going to be nearly impossible, since the lock itself is completely trashed beyond any use.
The police have an obligation to interview the neighbors—they really do—but honestly, the neighbors have a much greater obligation to tell the truth here. It’s pretty simple: Peter has lived in this apartment for twenty years. He was just out for a fifteen-day stint following surgery at the hospital, and he only just returned today. It's not exactly rocket science.

Peter really ought to do his homework first and just install a high-end, heavy-duty anti-burglary door—you know, the kind that comes with three separate keys—instead of cutting corners. So, I was digging through some technical documentation earlier—you know how I get when I start falling down these rabbit holes—and I stumbled upon this deep dive regarding the "how" and the "why" behind testing security doors. It’s one of those topics that seems straightforward on the surface, but once you peel back the layers, it’s actually quite a complex mess of engineering and standards. Basically, if you're looking at high-security doors, you can't just take a manufacturer's word for it. You need actual, verified data. In the States, we rely heavily on rigorous testing protocols to ensure that when someone tries to kick in your front door or pry it open with a crowbar, the thing actually holds up. It isn't just about how thick the steel is—though that matters—it's about the integrity of the frame, the locking mechanisms, and how the entire unit reacts under stress. It reminds me of a situation a few years back when I was helping a buddy move into a new place in Chicago. He bought this "impenetrable" door from some local outfit, thinking he was set for life. A month later, a particularly determined burglar managed to bypass the latch because the mounting hardware wasn't rated for the force being applied. It’s a classic case of having a great lock but a mediocre door assembly. Everything has to work in unison—the hinges, the strike plate, the frame—otherwise, the whole thing is just expensive decoration. When you're looking at these certifications, you have to look past the marketing fluff. You want to see the results of impact tests, drill resistance tests, and even fire ratings. It’s all about the math and the physics of it. If a door claims to meet certain security levels, there should be a clear trail of testing that proves it can withstand specific types of forced entry. Without that, you're basically just buying a very heavy piece of metal and hoping for the best. And honestly? Hope is not a security strategy.
The kind of alarm system that doesn't just wake up your building, but practically sends the entire neighborhood into a full-blown panic—that’s what we're talking about here. 😁
I was talking to this American woman the other day—really friendly lady—and she ended up giving me a full tour of her place. I have to say, one thing that caught my eye immediately was the roofline... she had these three massive outdoor sirens mounted right under the eaves. Just sitting there, staring at you. It felt like something straight out of a movie set, or maybe some sort of high-tech security setup I haven't seen around here yet. It really made me wonder about the neighborhood, though—you don't exactly see that kind of hardware on every suburban house in the States, do you?

Sam Wright21 Asks:
Mom isn't even countable anymore. 😢 So, basically, it would have to go through her sister—who’d essentially be stepping up to become her legal guardian.

Oh, man... Benjamin Taylor6.So, I’ve reached that point where I seriously need to figure out what to do about my apartment. It’s becoming a whole thing. And honestly? This whole "inheritance" conversation is driving me up the wall—my mom keeps talking about leaving the place to me in her will, but it feels completely nonsensical. Like, why is she even discussing passing down an apartment to me when it’s already mine to begin with?! It's just redundant, frustrating, and frankly, a bit much to deal with right now.

The topic at hand—preventing a foreclosure on your primary residence—is something that keeps me up more often than I'd like to admit. It’s a heavy subject, really... one of those things where you feel like the floor is dropping out from under you just by thinking about it.

Look, you can’t really hope to improve any of this—none of it, really—unless we finally get some kind of mandatory relationship law passed regarding single-property non-foreclosure. Until that's on the books, we're just spinning our wheels.
Worst-case scenario? We just sell the place—it's not the end of the world—and downsize to something smaller. We could pick up a cozy little condo or a townhouse somewhere more manageable, and then use whatever's left over to settle the debt once and for all. It’s a bit of a headache, sure, but at least we wouldn't be spinning our wheels indefinitely.

Yeah, that debt is a whole saga in itself—way too long to get into right now—but then you’ve got interest piling up on top of it, plus those absolutely insane legal fees from the property manager's attorney, the notary, the court costs... it just never ends.

Are you kidding me? There’s no way that’s going over $3,000... right? Please tell me I’m reading this wrong.

Wage garnishments and collections in Law · Sep 27, 2016

rowdyraven112 said:When you buy an apartment, you inherit all the rights and obligations that existed before the sale 😉.
We could argue based on mandatory relationship law here, but let’s save that for later. Basically, the seller is legally obligated to disclose every single right and liability the buyer will take on by closing the deal.
So, you just have to suck it up, Frank 😉.

But since this is technically a defect, there's a way to deal with Frank subtly. Sometimes Frank has to leave the unit empty, right? While he's out, you break in, grab everything he left behind, dump it at some landfill only you know about, and move your own furniture in. Change the locks and act casual when the cops show up. Under the Constitution, nobody can enter a residence without a warrant, and once the police see that Frank doesn't have a key while you do, they'll just back off. If the cops ask who Frank is, tell them you've never seen him in your life and ask them to remove him from your property, since you're one of the co-owners of the building.
In that scenario, Frank might try to sue to enforce his rights, but all you need are three witnesses to testify that the apartment was empty when you moved in. You should also update your residency to that address. And don't forget to change the locks on the storage unit and the basement too 😉.

But Peter Peric has documentation proving he's the one with usufruct rights to that apartment. Isn't that enough to satisfy the police?

Wage garnishments and collections in Law · Sep 27, 2016

Sam Wright21 said:Honestly, my head is spinning. I've been digging through these legalities from French Polynesia.

1. I can't just gift anything to my sister because of tax implications if we aren't direct descendants, and frankly, we don't have the cash lying around right now.
2. Everyone knows my mom gave me money back in 2003, but there isn't a single shred of a written contract to prove it.
3. I refuse to let the recipient be stuck footing any current or future expenses.

Is there some kind of workaround?!? Does anyone have any ideas?

Look, I’m not a cheapskate, but I refuse to hand over an apartment to a thief—it's not just about principle, it's about survival; you can't stay afloat when the bottom falls out. Otherwise, they can just pack up all their dishes and nonsense into three MP3 players and go. Life is far too short and fragile for this; I’d much rather be sleeping under a tree in French Polynesia.

Benjamin Taylor6, everyone initiates foreclosures promptly, and once that process hits, the statute of limitations is 10 years.

You really don't have many options other than transferring the deed to your mother and setting up some sort of legal arrangement with her.
For instance, a life estate or a similar support agreement. Or, your mother could draft a will right now stating the property goes to you, with your sister signing on as a co-signatory to unconditionally waive any claim to her portion of the estate.

Wage garnishments and collections in Law · Sep 26, 2016

Sam Wright21 said:Forgive me if I'm being blunt, but the debt I owe my mother actually traces back to 2003, when she provided the capital for my initial down payment. Any subsequent debts—the ones incurred after 2009—are entirely separate matters.

Look, if you actually have some kind of paper trail—I mean real, hard evidence—proving she lent him that cash, then the creditors probably don't stand a chance at filing a Paulian action. Without that proof, their legal argument just falls apart.
So, a friend of mine ended up walking away with half a house after her father passed away. But—and this is where she showed her true colors—she was clever enough to transfer the deed over to her only daughter immediately. It’s been five years since that happened now, so it's far too late for any creditors to try a fraudulent conveyance lawsuit. She played the system perfectly.

Now, regarding those old debts for the homeowners association—listen, they expire after three years. Once that statute of limitations hits, they’re basically dead in the water. So, if you actually get served with a summons or some legal notice, don't just sit there looking confused. You need to hit them with a direct question right out of the gate: exactly which timeframe are they trying to collect on? Once they answer, you make your move. You tell them—clearly and firmly—that you'll agree to settle the dues for only the last three years, and ideally, you should push for a payment plan. It's about being smart and not letting them shake you down for money that legally isn't even owed anymore. Just stay calm, hold your ground, and remember that the law is on your side here.
That’s exactly how I managed to dodge those local property taxes on my house back in 2018—just a little bit of maneuvering here and there.
So, here’s the thing about inheriting property—it sounds like a windfall until you realize you’ve inherited a mountain of paperwork and old debts, too. When I first took over the house, I completely missed a few years of property tax assessments. I wasn't trying to dodge anything, per se, it just... slipped through the cracks during the transition. Eventually, I got my act together and started paying everything current. But then the notices started coming. Every single year, they’d send me some official letter claiming I still owed money from back when I first moved in. And honestly? I just ignored those specific claims. I kept paying every new bill they sent me—staying current on the present—but that old stuff? I just left it sitting there. Well, things escalated. I finally got a notice saying they were actually going to sue me to recover the arrears. Instead of panicking, I just sat down and sent them photocopies of my payment receipts from the last three years—proof that I am a responsible taxpayer today. As for that ancient debt they were hounding me about, I made it very clear in my response: according to the statute of limitations, that debt is dead and buried. You can't just chase ghosts forever.
And then, just like that, they went dead silent.
Some people just panic—I mean, they truly lose their minds—and end up making these desperate side deals with creditors to pay off old debts in installments. It’s honestly ridiculous. We have a woman living in my apartment building who did exactly that. Just a total knee-jerk reaction to stress instead of actually facing the music.

rowdyraven112 Asks:

So, following some advice I picked up from the folks over on this forum, it’s clearly a massive mistake to just sign over half the apartment—I could go into all the specific reasons via private message if you really want the deep dive, because honestly, there are plenty—and it’s equally foolish to transfer everything into my mother's name when she’s already facing serious health struggles. If you do that, any random aunt or uncle can swoop in during probate and start demanding their "fair share" of the estate. It's a headache waiting to happen. At the end of the day, what you really need to be asking yourself is how much you actually trust your sister. And if she’s married, you have to ask: how much do you trust her husband? Because let me tell you, if things ever go south between them, that apartment becomes marital property. It's just how it works here. To protect yourself, the only real move is to get a notarized agreement or a written waiver from the husband, where he formally renounces any and all rights to the property. Better safe than sorry.
And I suppose I shouldn't even get started on the whole mess regarding the specific scenarios where your sister could end up facing a legal seizure of her assets—not that I’m looking to stir the pot, but honestly, it’s a minefield.
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There’s one specific part of this whole situation that keeps tripping me up—I can't quite wrap my head around it. So, Sam Wright21 could technically gift her apartment to her sister. But here’s the kicker: she can set up an inter-ownership agreement with her sister first. That means—and this is the part that really gets me—she can stay in the place for as long as she’s alive, and she could even rent it out and pocket the cash herself. Even though, on paper, the sister is the actual owner who received the gift. It feels like a massive loophole, honestly.
So, let’s say my sister goes totally belly up—I mean, full-blown bankruptcy, overextended on every credit line she can find—does that mean creditors can come knocking on the door of someone who actually holds the usufruct rights? Specifically, if someone like Sam Wright21 is holding those rights, can they be kicked out of the house? I’ve heard from a few sources that the answer is a flat NO!!
I was just sitting here thinking about how much things have changed—not just the tech, but the whole way we handle these little disputes—when I stumbled back onto this thread. It’s funny, really. You think you understand how these legal frameworks work until you actually get tangled up in one. Anyway, regarding what was said earlier... I still can't quite wrap my head around why people act like the inter-ownership agreement is some kind of suggestion rather than a binding document. It’s a contract! That’s the whole point. I remember back when I was dealing with that mess over in Chicago—totally different situation, but the same headache—where someone tried to claim they weren't bound by the building management contract because "circumstances changed." Give me a break. Circumstances change every day, but a signed agreement stays put. And don't even get me started on the mandatory relationship law. It feels like every time we turn around, there's some new layer of bureaucracy being added to an already complicated system. It’s exhausting. You try to follow the rules to the letter, and then some official looks at you like you're the one being difficult. It's enough to make you want to pack it all up and move to French Polynesia, though I suppose the humidity might be a dealbreaker for my joints. It's just frustrating. You see these arguments breaking out online, people throwing accusations around without understanding the actual legal backbone of the issue. We aren't living in a lawless wasteland; we have the Constitution for a reason. If we can't respect the foundational rules of our own institutions, where does it end? It ends in chaos, that's where. Just more paperwork and more shouting matches.

QUESTION:
So, let's say we look at a situation like this—let's say Peter Peric holds a life estate on a property. I go ahead and buy the real estate, thinking I’ve got a clean deal, but then what? What am I supposed to do with Peter? Am I stuck dealing with him indefinitely, or does that whole burden just get wiped clean once the deed transfers? It’s one of those legal headaches that makes you wonder why things aren't more straightforward.

ODGOVOR:
That’s just how it is—you're stuck dealing with Peter Peric until further notice.

Wage garnishments and collections in Law · Sep 25, 2016

Sam Wright21 said:Much appreciated. For what it’s worth, I’m trying to avoid putting the apartment under my mother’s Social Security number; I have zero interest in seeing her assets targeted by creditors. I’m operating under the assumption that a notary isn't legally obligated to report ownership changes directly to the ZK department, right?

At any rate, it would be a godsend if they could just issue an injunction against seizing her only property.

The notary is absolutely required to report any change in ownership to the IRS.

In my opinion, the smartest move would be to gift the apartment to your kids while you retain a life estate.
That way, nobody can touch the property.

If the debt my mom owes me actually stems from when I was originally buying the apartment—meaning long before all these recent liabilities popped up—don't you think gifting it back to her would be a perfectly legitimate way to settle that original debt? Since there isn't any other debt to speak of.

What kind of debt are we even talking about here? Is it just unpaid HOA fees or something?

Wage garnishments and collections in Law · Sep 22, 2016

Sam Wright21 said:I had always assumed that a "third-party objection" carried some actual weight when someone tried to foreclose on a primary residence. I mean, honestly, who in their right mind would bid on nothing more than a single living room?!?

So, what is the practical distinction between a simple deed and a formal gift agreement?

Back in the day, my grandmother handed me an envelope containing some assets. Well, the local courthouse wouldn't recognize it—they flat out refused to register it in my name. It wasn't until we sat down and drafted a formal gift deed that everything finally got recorded properly.

As for that whole mess regarding foreclosing on a single room... let me tell you, a creditor will take that from you without breaking a sweat.
If the debtor is listed as one of the co-owners, a creditor can use foreclosure to seize their specific share of the property. From there, they can petition to terminate the inter-ownership agreement with the other owners. In the end, you could find the entire property headed to auction, with the proceeds split up based on everyone's ownership percentage. Most often, though—and this happens all the time in these legal tangles—the remaining co-owners just end up buying out the creditor's portion, simply to prevent the whole place from being sold off at a massive loss at auction.

Wage garnishments and collections in Law · Sep 22, 2016

Sam Wright21 said:I would appreciate some perspective on my proposed strategy to protect my only significant asset.

My idea is to gift a portion of my apartment to my mother—which, under current tax laws, wouldn't trigger any tax liability—effectively settling the debt she incurred back in 2003 when she provided the funds for my initial purchase.

The complication is that my mother’s health has declined to the point where she requires a legal guardian; my sister would step into that role, signing the deed of gift on her behalf.

To provide context, I have been through an absolute gauntlet of litigation that has essentially dismantled my life. I haven't been able to recover stolen wages, claim my inheritance, collect a substantial professional fee, or even enforce the rights guaranteed to me by the inter-ownership agreement and the building management contract.

Most of these legal battles have dragged on for over a decade, but this latest ordeal was particularly egregious. We were dealing with complex construction issues, yet the judge—who clearly lacked any grasp of the technicalities—ruled against me without even holding a proper hearing or allowing for the presentation of evidence.

By the time she had cleared the procedural hurdles to make such a predetermined ruling, I was hit with a bill for about $4,000 just to cover their lawyers' attendance at hearings where no actual arguments were even heard. In fact, the judge spent most of the time berating me for representing myself, despite the fact that as an American citizen, I have a constitutional right to direct access to the courts. She lectured me incessantly and tossed out absurd inquiries, yet refused to let me speak... it was truly harrowing. 😢

With my bank accounts frozen since 2013, my apartment is the only thing I have left to hold onto, and I am desperate to ensure it isn't seized.

So, does anyone think a deed of gift is a viable way to handle this situation?

It wouldn't be a simple gift deed; you're looking at a standard gift contract. But here’s the catch: you’d likely need to transfer the entire apartment to your mother, your kids, or your husband—or split it among them. If you only transfer a partial interest, your creditors can still seize your specific share and then petition to force the sale of the entire property.

If you're expecting any kind of windfall or assets coming your way, you have to be extremely careful, because they will move to garnish those funds immediately. Especially anything sitting in a bank account.

Wage garnishments and collections in Law · Sep 21, 2016

rowdyraven112 said:Exactly! But now imagine you're looking at a figure of $100 and an income of $1167 (say, a decent average pension). What you forgot to mention is that interest applies to my debt too, right? The current garnishment interest rate is 7.14%. That comes out to $7.25 annually.
One third of that "pension" is $389, which rounds out to $4.75 per year. Clear enough?
Now explain to me how that debt gets paid off early? Especially since I have priority liens on both the "pension" and at the IRS.
Particularly when you consider the fact that "mother" has nothing to leave behind that would allow the debt to be transferred to me under any law? By the way, I'll mention your response to Fatal Error regarding writing the appeal when I reply to him.
Anyone telling me this kind of collection method is fair? I'm done arguing with them.

If this country were normal, the debt would already be paid. But since the government isn't normal, my resistance to this kind of usury is a necessity.

The creditor can file a fraudulent conveyance suit, but like I said, I'm going to invoke the statute of limitations. In fact, the statute of limitations on the first levy expired yesterday.

I follow all of that perfectly, except for one little "detail"!
If Mom owes massive amounts of money, your move only makes sense if they haven't already started the garnishment process for her specific debt. If the process is already active, then your agreement (the garnishment) just sits there waiting until the first creditor is satisfied.
So, yeah, this is only possible in certain special circumstances.
For instance, a friend of mine had a son who did this:
- It hit me hard, but honestly, when it happened, I thought it was just a bread delivery or something like that—he told me. The police determined the kid was seriously injured and didn't even have his driver's license. He wasn't drunk, and the car didn't even have plates.
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Now the father is on medical leave because of the sheer stress and misery of knowing he’s looking at a $20,000 bill (though, strictly speaking, the son is the one on the hook, not the dad).
In a scenario like this, a father could potentially cook up some legal loophole: say, the son is abusive, harassing him, and won't leave him alone. Then the son gets hit with a garnishment. Of course, no creditor will see a dime because the kid is still in school. But the moment he lands a job, they'll start docking a third of his paycheck immediately. Only problem is, that third will end up in the father's pocket instead of sonik-trgovina's.

Wage garnishments and collections in Law · Sep 20, 2016

rowdyraven112 said:To put it simply. I used the mother example just to stay close to fraudulent conveyance principles. The mother owes a creditor $33 (let's say).
I sue my mother for abuse. And, not to repeat myself, I get a judgment against her, and based on that judgment, I enforce it.
My mother and I could even sign a notarized statement saying I lent her $67, and she has to pay me back within 7 days (this type of document has a one-year statute of limitations). With a document like that, I certify the promissory notes, hit up FIFA, certify the instrument under section 202 of the enforcement code, and go after my mother's business. Based on those enforcement orders, I record liens against all her property.
For every one of these instruments, the creditor has one year to file a lawsuit. Like I said, one year is a tiny window for a creditor to even attempt collection (luckily, our courts are incredibly sluggish).

Since everything will be past the statute of limitations, what are you going to do as the creditor? Oh yeah, I can't wait to start the litigation. I'll throw out Section 71 regarding the statute of limitations, and your lawsuit gets dismissed without a hearing.

Do I need to draw this out on paper for you?
All my posts are based on examples that have nothing to do with my actual situation. Read between the lines instead of taking my words literally.

BTW, here are the facts regarding my case.
The enforcement order became final on September 20, 2006. I don't think I need to explain what that implies. Basically, if the creditor doesn't start proceedings within 5 days, then they can... well, I won't say.
Ten years of my life. Enough time to visit the creditor with a baseball bat once everything is done. If only that decision had been fair and just.
The last decision to vacate was three pages long, and judging by what the court advisor wrote in the final reasoning, I don't think the creditor will even bother starting the enforcement anymore; they'll just be wasting their own money.
If I were the creditor, I'd take my cash and hire the lawyer who was filing these enforcements. Then again, they brought it on themselves.

Not happening. I’m holding off on any payments until they deal with the objection I filed within the legal deadline. I'm in no rush. Let the creditor read these lines carefully—they're going to need them. I still have a few aces up my sleeve.

I’ll say it again: is what I did basically criminal? For the hundredth time, yes.
But what I did is nothing compared to how that seizure order was slapped against my family. You realize the entire judicial system is corrupt when they use these tools to first block me from my rights and then prevent the creditor from exercising theirs.
If we’re talking about crime, let's start by reforming these institutions. Otherwise, we might as well just call it legalized usury against people under foreclosure.

The bottom line is, your mother is liable, and she knows full well she’ll be facing garnishment if she doesn't pay up.
So, you two just dream up a fake debt between yourselves.
If you’re the first one to demand enforcement, that creditor is going to have to sit on their hands until you’ve been fully compensated. But honestly? I doubt she’ll stay calm once she realizes there’s no immediate way to collect. She’ll probably try to file a fraudulent conveyance suit or just wait for your mother to pay off that "fictional" debt—assuming your mother actually works or has a pension. That could take forever, since they generally cap wage garnishments at a third of the income.
In the meantime, her debt will just keep piling up with interest. And the creditor will be filing renewed lawsuits every single year just to prevent the statute of limitations from running out.

I actually suggested something similar once to a colleague of mine who had gone bankrupt after co-signing a loan for his wife. He was supposed to sit down with his sister and sign a document stating she had supported him for ten years and he owed her for it. But, well, she wasn't interested in playing those games. Now, he’s just staring down yet another garnishment for $233, which is pretty much the limit since he’s already juggling a credit line.
The one smart move he made—really the only thing he did right—was having his sister take the inheritance from the sale of their house and giving him power of attorney so he could access the funds.

Neighbor is obsessed with running water—is this a mental health issue? in Psychology & Therapy · Jun 30, 2016

Charles Lopez3 said:Maybe they’re looking to squeeze more cash out of us through hiked-up water bills,
who knows,
or maybe they just want to screw everyone over?

So, what’s the deal with him—how do you guys actually feel about his track record?

I’m leaning toward the idea that this is just some sort of localized revolt—only, it feels a bit more pathological than your average neighborhood grievance.

We dealt with something similarly bizarre back at my apartment complex. There was this one guy who insisted on keeping his motorcycle right in the ground-floor common area. The smell of gasoline was constant—it’s not exactly pleasant—
and it was especially brutal for those of us living on the first floor. One neighbor on our floor would constantly complain about it, leaving the side service doors propped open just to catch a breeze.
Now, people definitely complained about the smell, but strangely enough, nobody seemed to care that the guy on the first floor was the one breathing it in the most.
Then, one afternoon, that same neighbor found his bicycle—which had been locked up in the shared storage area—with the air vents absolutely shredded.
Just dozens of tiny holes poked through with an awl.
He’s convinced the scooter owner did it, but he hasn't got a shred of proof. So, instead of taking action, he just keeps propping those doors open, creating a draft that drives everyone else crazy, because honestly, he doesn't have the guts to actually demand the scooter be moved.
Instead, everyone just ends up cursing out the guy leaving the doors open. And frankly, I can't blame them too much—the guy leaving the doors open is a bit of a joke himself, just a lonely bachelor with zero social life.

What do you guys think about the idea of living to 500? in Spirituality · May 8, 2016

Gerald Hill said:The fact that people used to pass away early from illnesses or injuries that are easily treated today does not imply that we are going to live for 500 years. We have no reason to believe we will reach a 500-year lifespan today; we truly do not. To believe we will live for 500 years? Well, I am not such an optimist as to believe in a 500-year life right now. Ultimately, it is irrelevant, because when we die, everything vanishes for us anyway, as if we had never even lived. Life is, among other things, a bit of a deception; it doesn't matter how long you live.

Living forever would be the ideal scenario, wouldn't it? We should probably just ask God for immortality. But there’s a massive catch we tend to overlook here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eos

She loved her husband so much that she actually begged Zeus to grant him immortality, but—and this is the kicker—she completely forgot to ask for eternal youth. As a result, Titan just kept aging and aging until he was nothing more than a withered, frail old man who could barely stay upright, and he never stopped rambling. Eventually, he shriveled up so much that he turned into a cricket.

Self-destruction in Psychology & Therapy · Mar 18, 2016

mistydrifter55 said:I actually do understand the root cause.
It’s pretty straightforward.
The timeline goes like this: Fighting with my mom as an adult. Growing apart. Anger. Depression. Regret.

Look, we fought. Years have passed since then. I just can't seem to find peace or accept how things are.
On one hand, I'm furious, and on the other, I'm falling apart.

And that bolded part? That's probably the "falling apart" bit. Cause and effect.

Is there an on/off switch for all of this somewhere? 😁

So, are you two living under the same roof or not?
And what was the actual spark that started the fire?

If you aren't living together, honestly, fighting like this feels pretty pointless. People usually clash over the friction of shared space and daily life.
If you don't share a household, you could spend all day arguing over whether Joe Biden or Donald Trump is better, for all the good it'll do.
And frankly, neither of them deserves that much of your emotional energy.😁

Wage garnishments and collections in Law · Mar 10, 2016

Let me jump back into an old thread regarding property liens—specifically when we're talking about encumbrances on assets that aren't actually registered under the owner's name yet. It’s one of those legal gray areas that always seems to spark a heated debate, isn't it?
I haven't seen any discussion posted here yet—it looks like the thread is empty. If there’s something you wanted to dive into, go ahead and lay it out. I’m ready when you are. I honestly don't see why everyone is getting so worked up about this—it’s the same old song and dance, really. We’ve been through this cycle more times than I care to count, where one small hiccup turns into a full-blown national crisis because people simply refuse to look at the bigger picture. It's exhausting. I was sitting in my office yesterday—just staring at the skyline here in Chicago, mind you—thinking about how much energy we waste on these trivialities. We have actual, systemic issues to deal with, yet here we are, circling the drain over nothing. It reminds me of that time back in the late nineties when everyone thought the Y2K bug was going to end civilization... remember that? Total hysteria over a glitch that barely made a dent. We are doing the exact same thing right now. And then you have people like Benjamin Taylor6 jumping into the fray, acting as if they have some sort of divine insight into the matter. Look, I respect having an opinion, but there’s a fine line between being informed and just being loud for the sake of noise. It’s easy to shout from the sidelines, isn't it? Much easier than actually grappling with the nuance of the situation. Jamie Morales2 mentioned something earlier—something about the legal implications regarding the local district courts—and while I see where they're coming from, I think they're missing the forest for the trees. The bureaucracy in this country is already a labyrinthine nightmare; adding these specific legal technicalities into the mix doesn't solve anything, it just adds another layer of red tape to an already suffocating system. We need to stop reacting emotionally and start thinking logically. Or, at least, try to. It feels like common sense has become a rare commodity lately. Anyway, rant over. I'm just saying what everyone else is thinking but is too afraid to admit.

I mean, really? Is that where we're starting today? Just... "kiss me"? It’s such a sudden, almost jarring pivot from the usual discourse around here—though I suppose I shouldn't be surprised given how unpredictable this digital landscape has become lately. It reminds me of that one time I was stuck in a massive line at a Starbucks in downtown Chicago—just standing there, coffee cooling, minding my own business—and someone just blurted out something completely nonsensical right next to me. Total non sequitur. And yet, here we are. If you're looking for some sort of grand romantic gesture or a poetic monologue, you might be waiting a while—I tend to be a bit more... deliberate with my words than that. But if this is your way of breaking the ice, fine. Message received. kaže:
And then what? What’s the actual endgame here? They can't just go around harvesting your healthy kidneys—that’s straight-up illegal in the States, last I checked—so, really, there's nothing they can do. 😁

Oh, please—give me a break. 🤦🤣

So, here is how the whole thing finally went down in court:
I was just reading this legal drama unfolding over in the local courts—it’s one of those situations where you really start to question how much sense our justice system actually makes—and I couldn't help but think about how messy things get when people decide to take their grievances straight to a judge instead of just settling things like adults. So, here’s the deal: we’ve got this woman who decided she’d had enough and filed a lawsuit against her own ex-husband. It sounds like a classic case of "too little, too late," but the details are what really get me—the accusations are swirling around property disputes and some pretty serious claims regarding his conduct during their time together. You see these things all the time in the States—divorce turns into a full-blown battlefield where every cent and every piece of furniture becomes a weapon. It reminds me of a situation back in Chicago years ago—my cousin went through something similar with a business partner—and it wasn't even about the money in the end; it was just about the sheer principle of the thing. That’s what this feels like. It’s not just about the assets; it’s about the fallout from a relationship that clearly soured into something toxic. The legal proceedings are moving toward the municipal level, and honestly, it’s just going to be a long, drawn-out process of finger-pointing. Everyone’s waiting to see if the court will actually hold him accountable or if this will just become another expensive lesson in why you should always have a prenuptial agreement—not that a prenup solves everything, but at least it gives you a roadmap through the wreckage. It’s just exhausting to follow, really. Another day, another legal circus.

So, it looks like that massive stretch of land—over 14,000 square meters of prime real estate featuring that famous olive grove with the bronze falcon fence—isn't actually going under the hammer just yet. I know, I know, it sounded like a done deal, but things have taken a turn. After a formal appeal was filed by the controversial friar involved, the Zadar District Court stepped in and tossed out the previous ruling from the Benkovac Municipal Court issued back in May of last year. That original order was supposed to trigger a foreclosure on all his properties throughout the rural outskirts near Zadar to settle a debt of roughly $1.4 million plus interest—an astronomical sum, really. The whole mess started because he allegedly sold off land owned by the local parish without getting the necessary green light first. It’s one of those situations where legal technicalities end up stalling what seemed like an open-and-shut case of financial misconduct. Honestly, watching these high-stakes legal battles unfold is like watching a slow-motion train wreck—you know where it's headed, but the delays just keep stretching the timeline indefinitely.

It turns out that Father Mike wasn't actually the owner of those 14 hectares—which included nineteen pastures, four plots of tillable land, and a whole forest—after all. Because he didn't own the land, the parish that decided to sue him for millions is now facing a massive embarrassment; they’re actually going to have to cough up $15,000 just to cover the legal fees. Honestly, it’s one of those situations where you just have to shake your head at how much money gets thrown around in these lawsuits before anyone bothers to check the basic facts.

So, I was looking into this legal mess earlier—you know how these things go—and it turns out the Zadar District Court finally dropped its ruling from February 23, 2016. It’s one of those classic cases where the paperwork just doesn't line up, which, frankly, shouldn't be a surprise given how much red tape we deal with. Basically, there was this whole thing where a local parish tried to go after a guy for some kind of seizure, but the court basically told them to take a hike. The judge ruled that the entire claim was completely baseless—mostly because, get this, the guy they were targeting wasn't even listed as the owner of the land in question. You can't just claim someone owes you something based on property they don't officially own on paper. It’s common sense, really, but apparently, it takes a formal appeal to make people see that.

Look, let’s be crystal clear about this—there is absolutely zero point in trying to go after real estate that isn't actually registered under the debtor's name. It’s a complete non-starter. You can throw all the legal paperwork you want at the wall, but if the title isn't officially tied to them in the county records, you aren't getting anywhere. It’s just a waste of everyone's time—lawyers, process servers, even the judge. I've seen people get so worked up over property they *think* someone owns, only to hit a brick wall because the deed says something entirely different. If it isn't on the books, it doesn't exist for the purposes of an attachment. Period.
It doesn’t matter if everyone already knows the truth—that this entire country is basically run by people looking to seize assets, and it’s exclusively designed to serve their interests.

The bottom line here—and I mean this from the depths of my soul—is simple: if you’re dealing with land that’s still tied up in an ancestral estate or some old family trust, don't even think about putting money into improving it. Seriously. Just don't. Use the land for what it is, sure, but if you start pouring cash into fixing up a house or adding structures on property that isn't legally settled in your name alone, you're essentially throwing money into a black hole. I learned this the hard way years ago back when I was trying to help out a distant relative with a fixer-upper near Austin—spent a fortune on a deck only to realize the deed situation was a total mess. It's a nightmare. If you upgrade a house that’s technically part of an unsettled inheritance, there is absolutely zero guarantee that someone else won't swoop in later and claim those improvements as part of the estate. You could end up losing everything you invested because you thought you were being "helpful." Stick to using the acreage, keep the house as is, and protect your wallet. It's just common sense, really.

How to challenge a gift deed? in Real Estate · Jan 6, 2016

Lisa Nelson27 said:So, how did you guys actually settle things... or rather, how did you fix that whole misunderstanding?

The whole argument was settled by one simple rule: the smarter guy gives in.😲😁😲
I ended up handing over that room to my cousin, and in exchange, he gave me half of our shared lot. Only catch is—and this is where it gets messy—that land isn't zoned for building anymore.
Because of that, my 1,000 square feet is worth maybe $5,000 or $10,000 at best. I ended up selling my portion to the same buyer for $15,000 less than what I'd hoped.
But, look, I’ve been doing some digging into the status of the rest of the land we haven't split up yet, and I've managed to cook up a few ideas that might work in my favor. See, the deed is still technically under my great-grandfather's name—and that old man wasn't even remotely related to my cousin. He was just the son from my late grandmother's second marriage back when she was a widow. Anyway, I'll deal with that mess when the time comes right.😁

How can we even claim our civilization is "evil" if it's the only one we know? in Philosophy · Dec 8, 2015

I’d suggest giving this a read: http://www.akuzativ.com/teme/468-eri...rioda-sadizma

Erich Fromm: THE NATURE OF Sadism

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Braco from Silverman in Spirituality · Nov 25, 2015

wearyowl29 said:Well, that’s the million-dollar question right there! Honestly, I think that’s the core mystery whenever you talk to any kind of holistic healer or wellness guru.

It’s the same deal with Domančić. He’s definitely got the gift of gab and knows how to work a room.
Then there's the whole other side of things—back in the day, he was actually accused of embezzling funds from a local socialist enterprise over in a coastal city, which is why he ended up fleeing to Germany.
And then, wouldn't you know it, he pops back up working as a healer. 😁

No one is a saint in their own backyard:

Look, being from the same small town, I’ve personally seen dozens of cases where his therapies were absolutely useless. If you hear anything about someone getting better, you can bet it's just talk—mostly because people are too embarrassed to admit they were scammed after wasting all that time and money.

Pros and cons of spiritual practices in Spirituality · Nov 25, 2015

Paul Jones7 said:So, what is anyone actually looking for here?
Is it about reaching the destination, or is it really just about the walk itself?

The primary goal of spirituality!!??

For plenty of people, it’s just about fixing a stomach ulcer:
But yesterday—I was just lying there on the beach, you know—and at one point I turned around and saw this sea of people... kids everywhere, swimming, jumping, just being kids. And their parents nearby, middle-aged folks. Then further off, you see the elderly, people who can barely even make it down the walkway. It hit me like a sudden bolt of lightning—the realization that in a hundred years, not a single soul on this beach will be here. Not one. Not the kids. Everyone will be gone. Those children will grow old, and the parents playing with them right now? They'll have been dead for a long time.

And honestly, I felt such a knot tie up in my stomach that I had to take a second to pull myself together and push those thoughts away.