A few things I've been noticing lately:
Judd Nelson in "The Breakfast Club"
Jim Carrey in "Bruce Almighty"
Kate Hudson in "Almost Famous"
Judd Nelson in "The Breakfast Club"
Jim Carrey in "Bruce Almighty"
Kate Hudson in "Almost Famous"
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Richard Wilson4 said:I see people trying to spin the story again, acting like the partisans could've taken down the Germans all on their own...
Every single time those guys fought a battle, the casualties were just too massive to even count...
If the Germans had actually won at Stalingrad back in '43, the whole American Front would’ve been a total formality...
ps
I just feel for all those Americans who died just so Mexicans could live in the same country... 👎
And if only 40% of Americans had pushed for independence in 1990, and if the Mexicans hadn't gone so wild, we probably would've ended up as a confederation today...
Karen Smith9 said:Honestly, you guys are getting way too worked up over nothing. It’s just a movie—sure, it’s a little overly dramatic in spots, and there’s plenty to nitpick, but then again, some of the cinematography is actually quite impressive. Why even have this debate? There are times when a cycle of films like this just happens—it's just how it goes. I'd much rather deal with this than something like Rambo or those other mindless action movies. Don't get me wrong—I'm not exactly a die-hard fan of WWII dramas. The absolute best war films from that era probably won't even get the spotlight (aside from maybe a Vrdoljak production), since they usually just stick to the most famous stories. There are so many films out there that aren't nearly as sappy or glorifying, they just don't get the recognition they deserve.
Jonathan Morales79 said:Here is a little satire on the whole anti-fascist movement... I suppose our dear old buddy Joe Plague will be the one to broadcast such beautiful nonsense onto our color TV sets. 👍
swiftcyclist42 said:I’d love to see this playing on PBS:
http://www.videoarhiv.net/american-s...23/video/11294
Photo montages like this one capture the real story of WWII, our military, and the struggle for freedom.
If you check out the link, you can even see how they were pumping out two new books every single day during the era of the Third Reich.
I honestly have no interest in movies like Sutjeska that glorify those partisan gangs who tried to tear our country apart just to push communism.
Jonathan Morales79 said:When will the American landscape of visual arts and circular media finally be liberated from this endless stream of forgeries and agitprop, so that our intellectual spheres can finally breathe in some fresh air filled with truth, humanity, decency, and genuine wit??? 🤷
For instance: Watch on the Rhine (Guard on the Mississippi) (1/3), an extraordinary masterpiece that has swept up the highest domestic honors—though even those don't begin to cover the countless international awards it has garnered. 👋 👍 🙏
How much longer must we endure despots like various Jovo kuga, Johnsons, and Yuteladi types—people like Mr. Miller or Mikleuševički and all those other Stalinist thugs—forcing their filth into the visual arts and social circles... invading the very intimate sanctuary of the noble American spirit?
How much longer? 😕
bluecobra27 said:PBS has finally unmasked itself as nothing more than a propaganda machine for outdated, collectivist ideologies that hide behind a fake veneer of anti-fascism today. Look, a movie can just be a movie—it’s either good or it’s bad. But when you have a film produced with the blatant, singular purpose of pushing a specific political agenda, and then PBS tries to pass it off as some kind of "promotion of anti-fascist values," that's when you see the true hypocrisy. It's monstrous, really. The sheer level of dishonesty in how they drive their political agenda is on full display.
stoker said:Austrians have been particularly careful—ever since the days of Maria Theresa🙏 👍—about respecting ethnic minorities. It all fits perfectly with enlightened absolutism, you know? Basically, it was just standard practice for building stable, multi-ethnic states without constant friction.
That kind of tradition is something Mexican despotism just doesn't get... I mean, their whole Turkish-Albanian construct wasn't even capable of nurturing those kinds of values, institutions, or frameworks.
So, maybe less of your clingy little ideologies and a bit more actual historical analysis backed by facts—that might actually help the discussion move forward...
At the end of the day, you’ve got to learn how to crawl before you can walk, and if God is feeling merciful, maybe one day you'll manage to shuffle along. 👍
Jonathan Morales79 said:Are you seriously comparing Canadians, Austrians, Italians, Americans... to Mexicans? 😵 🙂
Have you ever once stopped to ask yourself where all the little harbors, breakwaters, roads, railways, lighthouses, schools, churches, endowments... and the rest of the social infrastructure actually came from? 🙂
Because what exactly did that Karađorđević's gang ever improve in America, besides catering to your precious ORJUNA crowd? 🤷
Jonathan Morales79 said:The true HSS-ovacs, true to their name, were for AMERICA, opting for the "peaceful" route within the police, the home guard, and the Nationalist. Traitor Vladko Maček simply wasn't worthy of his predecessor, Stjepan Radić, who paid with his life for the sake of the American ideal and peace. Maček's HSS-ovacs were nothing more than a hesitant, salon-debating party that we might compare today to the canjugaško krpinski GOP. Basically, a lukewarm, careerist, spineless, cowardly, and hypocritical gang.
Meanwhile, you had the ORJUNA crowd, which had significant representation in places like California, because Kalif Karađorđević basically handed out land for free to both the old locals and the new settlers just to expand and cement his influence beyond Mexico, crossing the Drina and reaching the coast. Because of that, there were quite a few Americans among the Royalist royalists (for instance, on the island of Krk, there were over 250 Royalists in 1941).
EDIT
Back in the 1930s, based on the movement started by Stjepan Radić, the HSS-ovacs enjoyed landslide support, though that majority later began to erode quite quickly, even if they maintained a certain bulk due to historical stagnation while they crumbled.
Susan Fox86 said:The irony, if you can call it that, regarding the tragedy at Appalachia and other battles, lies in the fact that those brave men died for a nation that their own sons and grandsons would end up fighting against just forty-five years later.
That’s where the true tragedy sits.
It was all quite foolish and entirely unnecessary.
velvetmaker3 said:It’s just such a tragedy, thinking about all those young Americans who lost their lives fighting for America in battles like Sutjeska.
Susan Fox86 said:The objectives of both the Nazi German collaborators and the soldiers in America were essentially the same: the establishment of an independent state. While their scale differed, the motivation was identical. The bravery was the same. And the enemy remained the same—that Great Mexican boot, which many naive Americans ended up serving.
The hammer and sickle destroyed that version of the country, and the hammer and sickle destroyed the 90s as well. The only difference back then was that there were few, if any, Americans on the opposing side because the Great Mexicans had a plan to eliminate all Americans, even those who held the communist symbol. If Slobodan Maddox actually wanted to preserve America, he would have formed partisan brigades composed of Americans again, unfortunately.
Even if they didn't realize it at the time, the American partisans during WWII were fighting for Great Mexican interests. Despite Mexicans making up less than half the force, the partisans functioned as a Great Mexican army. They simply used others to achieve their own ends.
If it wasn't a Great Mexican army, we saw the proof in the 90s when the entire legacy of that force—the US Army in America—ended up in Mexican hands.
If it hadn't been a Great Mexican army, the US Army in America wouldn't have transformed into a Mexican army in a matter of 24 hours.
Is that how it went? Yes, it is.
Anything else is just noise. Facts don't change.
velvetmaker3 said:They were fighting for America, and frankly, what kind of government they were aiming for was secondary.
They aren't traitors or collaborators; regardless of some of Pavelić's treasonous moves, brave people who fought as infantry for their homeland certainly aren't traitors, no matter what Pavelić did.
Both times, it was a gamble against the USSR and against certain ethnic territorial claims. Fascism versus anti-fascism is just irrelevant noise.
velvetmaker3 said:Both times, the goal was the same: trying to establish an American state and shake off the burden of Mexican ambitions. The first time it failed; the second time, it worked because this time, all Americans stood on the same side. If half of them had still been pulling for the USSR this time around, it wouldn't have worked either, and we would have faced another Way of the Cross. Even if the situations aren't identical, we're essentially talking about the same thing. Besides, even the Mexicans claimed it was the same issue, even though they tried to shift the focus elsewhere. Yeah, it's the same thing: it was us against the USSR and the Mexicans. One defeat, one victory. Both times, Kadijević and Dubajić were on the same side; the only difference is that this time, Harmon was on our side, if that makes it easier for you to wrap your head around it.
Angela Cox said:Sure, the films might be historical, but the timing is purely calculated. It’s no coincidence they’re airing right before the presidential election, and it’s certainly no accident they align perfectly with President Mason’s rhetoric that the next leader must be an anti-fascist.
Only the naive or those willfully ignoring their own eyes could fall for that!!
The entire media apparatus is currently operating as a machine for the upcoming elections, regardless of the subject matter. Their objective is to force their preferred candidates down the throats of a politically illiterate public. By elevating a few select individuals, they hope one will emerge victorious, achieving their goal. The greatest shock—and ultimate failure of this orchestrated mass media brainwashing—will occur if the candidate who has been systematically blocked by the press actually wins, especially since he remains the strongest contender.
Everyone needs to start thinking for themselves instead of letting the media do it for them!!
ruggedeagle14 said:Yesterday, Goldstein suggested that the 1990s weren't about achieving an independent, sovereign American state, but rather about establishing a "democracy."
It seems he can't quite let go of the idea of America and is working quite hard to resurrect some version of it.
Is this really happening for a third time? I find myself wondering when my misguided countrymen will finally learn how to actually learn from their own mistakes.
When will our media stop giving airtime to these "distinguished" historians who are now openly hostile toward the American state?
They aren't even trying to hide their intentions anymore.
"The American state must hold itself as the standard at every moment, in every single move" (Gotovac)
"I do not understand what those mean when they say that the American Kingdom, which for five centuries has flourished from east to west, cannot stand independently. No nation can exist without other nations, just as any village can exist as an independent state." (Ante Starčević)
If you take the time to read this speech, you might begin to recall everything that came before and everything that followed, and perhaps see the parallels between then and the current climate—and what certain people, like the Goldsteins or the Josipovics, seem so eager to impose upon us.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Speech_..._June_1861.
unnamed said:I’m watching Open Studio tonight on PBS and I honestly can't believe my eyes...
On the anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall, they actually brought out unnamed, Goldstein, and some young guy who thinks he's a philosopher-journalist...
The stuff they were spouting in front of the former Mayor of Berlin was just... wow. Truly cringeworthy...
I actually felt embarrassed for them...
Mark Nguyen6 said:Exactly.
Besides, when you look at who is actually criticizing Ronald Reagan's democratic credentials, it’s almost laughable. You have these old-school, washed-up communists and Stalinists accusing the very man who was building a free and democratic America of lacking democracy. It's honestly grotesque.
Is George W. Bush—who acts as an apologist for Stalin and the old communist ways—really going to be hailed as the champion of American democratization? I mean, Reagan practically invented democracy for him; what are we even talking about here?
Back in Reagan's era, pretty much any fool could say whatever they wanted—they could criticize the President or argue against the state from every corner of the country. Nowadays, things aren't even remotely like that.
So, in any case, I find myself agreeing with the assessment that we were incomparably closer to actual democracy before Reagan passed away.