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Top Gun in Movies ·
Michael Foster7 said:No offense intended, but I’m part of that older generation you’re talking about—and honestly, watching it in theaters in New York wasn't some massive cheering event like a playoff game, nor did that movie spark any kind of rebellion against the old regime.
The soundtrack was a one-hit wonder; it was huge at the time, but once the hype died down, I don't think I ever touched it again.
It felt like a giant recruitment commercial designed specifically to fill up flight school quotas—which, if I recall correctly, actually worked. Those young guys probably thought they’d all get an instructor looking like that at Top Gun school. Private joke, I guess.

Well, San Diego (where I'm originally from) has always had its own unique vibe🤣.

I know for a fact that back then, everything coming out of America was viewed as a sort of silent protest against the status quo and Communism. It wasn't just being naive—and I say that as someone born in '84, so I wasn't even around for the peak of it—it was just the reality of the era. Things were... well, you know, fundamentally different than they are today.

Take basketball games, for example; people would just start chanting "U.S.A.! U.S.A.!" out of nowhere whenever the Chicago Blackhawks or teams like the New York Yankees or Los Angeles Lakers came to town. Hah.

🙂
Top Gun in Movies ·
Benjamin Thompson66 said:Man, they’re actually making a sequel to this trash. I haven't seen anything quite this bad in years. It's just a movie about hotshot killer pilots—total propaganda designed to pump up the military budget. One of the worst attempts at glorifying the armed forces I've ever seen. And don't even get me started on the soundtrack; it's an absolute earache. What's next, a sequel all about drone warfare?

From what I’ve heard from the older generation, Top Gun actually had a bit of a rebellious following back in the day during the Yugoslavia era.

In those years leading up to the war, anything with an American vibe served as a sort of protest against Yugoslavia, Communism, and the USSR. For instance, an older relative used to tell me how people in movie theaters would cheer for the Americans and Cruise as if they were watching a high-stakes NBA or NFL game.

Personally, I think this movie has soul—but hey, to each their own—though you really can't deny that it features one of the greatest soundtracks of all time.

P.S. Even if it *was* designed in America to boost the defense budget... so what? If it worked, it worked.
Gerald Hill said:Look, this isn't really a philosophy discussion—it's about whether that retarded clown actually deserves the title of cinema's greatest villain. There's a scale of evil established by Michael Shannon, where the ultimate metric is pure sadism. That’s why I feel we should address it here. Besides, the Joker's "philosophy" is just childish nonsense.

Actually, I disagree. This thread *is* about the philosophy behind the film, and how the Joker forces us to re-examine the very core of our society—so naturally, talking about sociology and philosophy is part of the package.

The Joker's philosophy isn't childish; when applied to the context of the movie, it's actually quite serious.

Now, I’m a huge fan of the Terminator series, but how would you even rank them? Would you call the T-800 or the T-1000 the greatest villain? They’re just AI programmed to terminate humans. Or what about the Alien, which kills simply because that’s its biological nature? It doesn't work like that.

The prompt specifically asks for the greatest cinematic VILLAIN, not just who represents evil in its purest essence. We aren't picking Satan as a walking personification of Evil; we are looking for a villain. And honestly, is there a greater villain than one who commits atrocities because he’s actually right about society? He performs evil acts to prove his point—which is far more terrifying. It's not the Joker himself being scary, but rather the message he represents.

In the end, the movie suggests Batman is wrong about people. Even Batman and Gordon admit at the finish that Batman's view of humanity was flawed—that sometimes people need a lie just to maintain peace. Batman started from a place of personal conviction, but he’s an individual trapped in a world of hypocrites and monsters. In that sense, the Joker actually wins. He might not win within the plot because of Batman's deception, but as a message to the real world? He wins.

That definitely makes him one of the most significant and intriguing villains ever put on screen. Maybe saying "greatest of all time" is a bit much, but I just want to explain my reasoning for why he belongs in that conversation.
Well, to be honest, it seemed a bit strange to me at first too, but once you start drinking, it doesn't feel that way anymore.

Nolan's Joker might just be the greatest villain ever put to film—and for me, The Dark Knight isn't just some superhero flick about Batman. In my personal opinion, the movie actually sparks such a deep discussion about society that you could probably imagine Immanuel Kant, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, or even Aristotle sitting around debating it.

What I’m trying to get at is that the Joker was actually right about people and our entire social structure. And that’s coming from a lifelong optimist like myself. If you strip society down to its bare essentials, the only real Sci-Fi element in that movie, as far as I'm concerned, is the part where those people didn't blow up the ships. In reality, they would have blown each other up in less than half an hour—actually, scratch that, ten minutes tops.

So, the Joker is perhaps the ultimate villain because he isn't just a "bad guy" in a movie; through Heath Ledger's performance, the direction, and the script, they basically laid bare the lies we live by regarding civilization, society, and the system itself. If any of us were truly "normal"—meaning the vast majority of people—everything would have fallen apart within a week, but it hasn't.🙂.

Cheers,
Top Gun in Movies ·
Shpiro said:image

It's all about that need for speed. 🙂
Edward Price6 said:The Man from Earth.

To me, The Man from Earth is a total masterpiece. 👍

I've probably watched it a dozen times now, and every single time I feel the same way: 🙏, it isn't vague at all—it turns out he really is a man from the Paleolithic Era who's 15,000 years old, which gets confirmed by the end.

P.S. Honestly, people can say whatever they want, but that movie deserved an Oscar for Best Original Screenplay. The way the dialogue and monologues carry the entire film while staying in one room is incredible—it's actually more engaging than 99% of modern movies because the story alone keeps you hooked. You find yourself praying to God that the film won't end; any further commentary feels unnecessary.
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The Usual Suspects vs. Se7en in Movies ·
Eric Fox7 said:Exactly. It’s actually because that was their very first scene together—even though they had worked on the same project before. 🙏

Yeah, 🙏

But man, that movie is just... I'm speechless, it's incredible. Especially that gunfire sound design—it's a total masterpiece. Only Michael Mann could pull that off; it feels so incredibly realistic, from the actual acoustics of where the shots are coming from to everything else... Honestly, I could watch it forever. The gun sounds are just pure, raw authenticity. It's intense.

Whether you agree or not, for me personally, it's the best cinematic shootout of the century:

And when you factor in the cast and those performances... 🙏

By the way, speaking of Mann, I absolutely love Collateral. That film is something special to me—once again, that signature weapon sound, that distinct Michael Mann style, and those visual nuances... it's more than just a movie.

One more thing I have to mention—since Al Pacino is my favorite actor (well, alongside Robert De Niro, but I have a soft spot for Pacino), this has to be his strongest look ever. Between the hair and the age he was back then, he just looked... simply bad mother fucker. haha. Just a little detail I had to point out.

Anyway, I won't get too carried away with the off-topic stuff.
The Usual Suspects vs. Se7en in Movies ·
Bryan Rogers87 said:Hmm. Actually, there are way more similarities than people realize. In both cases, you have this intense cat-and-mouse game with the law, and you've got those mastermind figures—like Robert De Niro in Heat. I know they aren't the exact same genre, but in my book, the parallels between them run much deeper than most think...

Anyway, all this just reminded me that I really need to rewatch The Usual Suspects. It’s been ages, but it was definitely worth the discussion. 😁

As for Heat—when Robert De Niro and Al Pacino finally sat down at the same table? For me, that felt like watching Jesus and Buddha grab a coffee and just talk. 😁 🤣

Bryan Rogers87 said:I personally lean more toward the darker vibe of Finch's work... plus, I think Finch had a tougher mountain to climb. There are so many serial killer movies out there, and trying to make one actually land that "wow" factor seems much harder to achieve than what they did with US.

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The Usual Suspects vs. Se7en in Movies ·
Bryan Rogers87 said:If we're going to make comparisons just because they came out in the same year, then comparing Heat to Usual Suspects would actually make more sense—genre-wise, they're much closer.

Man... I don't know about that. Usual Suspects isn't any closer to Heat than Se7en is; if anything, they're all about the same distance away.

The only reason I even wanted to see a comparison was that they both dropped in the same year and are predominantly thrillers—though Usual Suspects leans heavily into mystery, while Se7en definitely has its own dose of mystery, too.

They aren't the same kind of movie, of course, but they're both cult classics in their own way.

Don't get me wrong, Heat is an absolute masterpiece—it's a crime-action thriller, one of the best out there, at least in my book—but I could never really see Heat being more "related" to Usual Suspects than it is to Se7en. 🙂
The Usual Suspects vs. Se7en in Movies ·
Scott Allen33 said:Both movies are great, but Se7en is way better if you ask me 🙏—it’s easily one of my top five films ever, and I might even go as far as calling it number one 😁

There’s no question about it—Se7en is a masterpiece... and it's actually pretty wild to think both of these came out back in 1995.

The poll results are interesting—maybe even a little telling, haha—777:

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Alexander Jones5 said:I'm curious—which movies do you all think were unfairly panned by critics but actually turned out to be absolute gems?

There’s honestly nothing more satisfying than watching critics absolutely trample a film, only for it to trigger a massive counter-reaction where the movie eventually becomes an all-time classic. 👍

Right now, a few come to mind: >, >, >, and >.

There are plenty to choose from, but my mind goes straight to >.

In my opinion, the so-called "experts" who gave that film such low ratings should honestly just collectively retire from their profession—it’s pretty clear they weren't built for this kind of work.

Nothing can excuse those ridiculous reviews for >; I've heard every excuse in the book—people claiming they'd had enough of > by then, or whatever other nonsense... blah, blah, blah... there's just no making excuses for it.

I have no idea if the idiots who trashed the original > are still involved in film criticism today, but if they are... well, it's a dark thought.

If you want to see what those "professionals" actually gave >, you can check >, and the score is a measly: 30/100—basically a 3/10. 🤣...

No comment; any defense of those morons would just be a waste of breath.
The Usual Suspects vs. Se7en in Movies ·
bluecyclist64 said:Why didn't you just write Se7en properly? Seriously, that "7" instead of the "v" drives me crazy.

It honestly gets under my skin every single time I see it.

Haha, alright—let me write it properly for you: SEVEN 😁.
The Usual Suspects vs. Se7en in Movies ·
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I decided to kick off this thread to talk about my absolute favorite thrillers from the '90s—and even one or two that I’d rank among the best thrillers of all time (mind you, that's just my personal take, regardless of what anyone else thinks).

I hear you—it’s genuinely tough to pick a favorite between these two. It's a real toss-up for me, too. Because I honestly can't make up my mind, I’m going to add an "undecided" option to the poll for anyone else feeling just as stuck as I am.

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve sat through both of these—maybe twenty times now—but honestly, they never get old. For me personally, these aren't just movies; they are absolute masterpieces of cinema and art itself. I have to say, though, I sometimes get the feeling that *The Usual Suspects* gets overlooked more than it should. It’s not that people have actually forgotten about it, per se, but it feels like it doesn't come up in conversation nearly as often as it deserves. It really should be considered essential viewing for any true film fanatic.

First, I’ll drop my ratings for both films—though, as most of you probably already know, I hand out tens far more rarely than the US Government cuts corruption:

The Usual Suspects — 10/10 Se7en
Se7en — 10/10


I honestly have so much I could say about both of these films that I don't even know where to start—I mean, I do know, but I’m not going to ramble on forever because I could practically write a book at this point. So, let's dive in.

The Usual Suspects:

I’ve never really sat through a thriller that carries this much mystery—honestly, I’d go as far as calling it mystical—all while maintaining the status of a top-tier intellectual masterpiece. If you want my honest take, I truly consider this one of the smartest films ever made. There, I said it.

With a top-tier script, an incredible soundtrack, and powerhouse acting, this movie creates this lingering sense of mystery—the kind where even today, people still can't stop talking about Keyser Soze. That character... man. If you look specifically at his role, the film really gets under your skin; it makes you wonder for a split second if Keyser Soze actually *is* Satan. I mean—not literally Satan, obviously, but those of you who get it will know exactly what I'm talking about.

No matter how many times you sit down to watch this movie, it hits you with that same feeling... well, maybe not exactly like the very first time—because let’s face it, nothing quite compares to that initial shock—but the film is just so genuinely brilliant that the experience remains incredibly consistent every single time you hit play.

I won't drag this out... It's a masterpiece.

Se7en:

Absolute masterpiece... this is the Mount Everest of thrillers. It doesn't follow the exact same blueprint as Usual Suspects—of course not—because it leans into a different kind of intellectualism, which is nothing less than brilliant in its own right. Much like Usual Suspects, the atmosphere is just one of those things that's hard to put into words; the script is pure genius, the acting is flawless, the cast is spot on, and the story? Simply perfect.

That ending might just be one of the most shocking conclusions in cinematic history—if not quite *the* most shocking.

The tension in that scene with the package—everything about it is just masterfully done. Honestly, even if you’ve seen the movie twenty times by now, it still hits you with that exact same level of suspense as the very first time.

The atmosphere of the film—driven by that incredible acting, the sharp script, and the director’s unmistakable touch—is really heightened by the fact that it pours rain constantly. It felt like we were stuck in one long, rainy week... which makes it such a brilliant paradox when the rain finally stops right as that shocking twist hits. Absolutely genius.

The movie never actually names the city—which I think is brilliant. Honestly, it doesn't even matter where they are. It’s better that way; you can just let your own imagination fill in the blanks if you feel like it.

I’m telling you—both films are such shock-inducing masterpieces that I honestly think it would be nearly impossible for anyone in this industry or genre to top them today. While *The Usual Suspects* has that perfect layer of mystery layered over a solid thriller foundation, *Se7en* is just a pure, uncut thriller at its very core.

To wrap things up—I honestly can't decide which of these two I like better. It’s an impossible choice because I absolutely love both of them, and they both sit comfortably in my all-time top 20.

I was honestly just curious to see if anyone else could actually make that call—I figured someone had to be able to, so I thought it would be interesting to get this thread started and see what you all think.

I'll leave you with two specific scenes—one from each movie. They’re easily my absolute favorites, though honestly, picking just one "most iconic" moment is nearly impossible since I think both films are cult classics from the opening frame all the way to the credits.

🙏🙏🙏

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Superman Returns vs Man of Steel in Movies ·
Now, I’m going to try to explain—in my usual emotional way—how I actually experienced that plane scene when I first saw it in theaters about ten or eleven years ago...

I was about 20 years old back then—completely hyped up and riding that wave of nostalgia for the sense of wonder I felt growing up with Christopher Reeve's Superman. You know the feeling? Well, I actually found that exact same spark again in this movie, especially during this one specific scene... I can't really explain it any other way than by describing how I personally experienced it—though I’m sure many of you here will understand exactly what I mean:

That moment in this scene—you know, the one where Lois Lane catches that glimpse of Superman through the window just as he takes off? And that score... man... honestly, guys... it's just something else.Watching that felt like looking right back through my own childhood window—it was such a nostalgic trip. 🙏

My emotions were absolutely screaming at me during that scene in the theater—I was sitting there with my mouth wide open, completely mesmerized. Honestly, if a fly had flown straight into my mouth right then, I probably wouldn't have even noticed.

That moment when Williams' score kicks in just as Superman steps onto the plane—man, I can't even... wow. Just wow. 🙏

Honestly, that entire sequence—the way they executed it—was just masterful. I was actually gripping my seat while that plane was going down. And the sound design? Man, just that one specific sound from the scene... ufff. 🙏

When that plane wing snaps off and Superman flies right through it—and then that music kicks in... man, just wow. I mean, come on! Forget about Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, or Thor—those guys don't even compare. What are we even talking about here? We're talking about Superman. That specific feeling you get from the Christopher Reeve films? It’s exactly what happens in this scene because of the score and the way Brandon Routh looks—it's identical.

Patrick Martin says the same thing—the movie just has soul. And please, let’s not even start comparing this to Man of Steel... seriously, don't... I mean, compare it (okay, I got a little carried away there), but I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who actually lived through this scene and the film, carrying all those emotions from that first pair of movies with Christopher Reeve.

When he finally brought that plane down and stepped inside—man, what a moment. But then, the second he walks back out and those cameras start flashing, seeing Superman on every TV screen, the whole world realizing he’s actually back... and then that Superman Williams score kicks in? Seriously... wow. Just incredible. 🙏

Everything I just said—based on what I actually felt while sitting in that theater—was about seeing my younger self again. For a moment during that one specific scene, and honestly throughout pretty much the entire movie, I felt like I was ten years old all over again. It really just transported me right back.

Why are we all craving this old-school version of Superman? (And yes, I’m talking about those of us who want that classic feel rather than the Man of Steel version.) Honestly, it's because there is this deep-seated hunger within us for the kind of superhero he represented—the one we've grown up with since we were kids. We aren't really interested in all that brooding darkness or grit; what we actually care about is that pure, unmistakable feeling of a true superhero. For me, at least, the moment anyone mentions the word "superhero," my mind immediately goes straight back to childhood: Superman.

P.S. And yeah, alright—you can go ahead and call me a DC fan, haha. 🤣

Honestly, Superman has been my absolute favorite since I was a kid—and that’s never going to change. Then comes Batman. Just those two, and really nobody else. For me, there aren't any other true heroes; whenever I watch Marvel movies or see their various scenes, I’ve realized something lately—every time I feel that "certain something" during a big moment, it's actually because of Superman. Subconsciously, I find myself comparing everything back to him without even realizing it. I finally understand why now—it’s just how he left his mark on me from such a young age. That’s really all there is to it.

With all due respect to Henry Cavill—and look, he’s certainly not to blame here—his Superman just doesn't hit the mark. It’s simply not it.

Furthermore, someone mentioned earlier that it wouldn't have been ideal if they had reworked J. Williams' score for Man of Steel—but honestly, why not? No remake is ever going to capture that exact magic of the original, none of them, but it would have provided that specific touch I'm talking about.

I’ll compare it to Terminator—as most of you know, I’m a total fanatic for T1 and T2. Nothing will ever truly replace those iconic main themes from the first two films for me, but even then, I didn't mind hearing the score from T4. Regardless of how much of a mess that Salvation movie was, it was still nice to hear that version of the music. Why shouldn't it be? It just feels right when a legendary franchise uses its own musical DNA alongside the new stuff. 😁.

Anyway..., that’s my two cents regarding this 😁 scene.
Superman Returns vs Man of Steel in Movies ·
briskhound2 said:Neither one.

Where am I supposed to vote for that option?

Haha 🙂, I actually thought about putting "none of the above," but then I figured—hey, someone has to pick at least one of these two that feels even a tiny bit better. Just go ahead and vote for whichever one you find slightly more tolerable for whatever reason.😁
Superman Returns vs Man of Steel in Movies ·
@Walter Bishop98/">@@Walter Bishop98, look, the movie is literally titled Superman Returns—it’s meant to be a direct follow-up to Christopher Reeve and Gene Hackman. I don't think Brandon Routh was trying to impersonate Reeve; rather, it felt like the natural thing to expect, especially since it's almost impossible to imagine anyone else as Superman after Reeve. Personally, I think Brandon Routh did a very good job.

In fact, physically speaking, Routh feels more "superman-like" to me than Henry Cavill does.😁.

Moving on—regarding Man of Steel and that whole Cavill era—Cavill isn't bad, but everything surrounding his portrayal is flawed. The entire concept of this "new era" Superman they tried to build around him missed the mark completely, and honestly, it's not even his fault.

The truth is, Superman is an incredibly difficult superhero to adapt well because... well, he's the strongest.

Superman Returns managed to pull it off, even if it felt a bit like a retread; I'd much rather have a solid homage than some new piece of garbage.

Cavill's Superman is such a hollow character that absolutely any other hero (or villain) ends up stealing the spotlight in the movie.

In Batman v Superman, the only things worth watching are Ben Affleck and Batman—even Wonder Woman was five times more interesting than Superman in that film.

There's something fundamentally broken in America regarding this version of Cavill's Superman. Sure, he looks great in a suit (though I liked the previous ones too), but that's about it—everything else is just lifeless.

Anyone claiming you can have Superman without the musical backdrop of J. Williams is lying to themselves. Even if it's just a rearranged version of the original score, music is a massive factor here.

And the second—perhaps most important—point: this obsessive insistence on the alien angle with Superman? It's not working, it's not cool, and it just doesn't feel right.

We have to be clear: Superman is not Batman. You can't take the exact same gritty approach used for Batman and expect it to work for Superman. It simply doesn't, and we can see that something is deeply wrong here—it's just bad.

Cavill isn't to blame—not even one percent—others are the ones at fault.

All in all, the Superman of Cavill's era is boring and lacks soul. Actually, "boring" might be an understatement; while watching Cavill's Superman, you sort of get this feeling of: "Oh, there's Superman... okay... fine... let's move on to something else... okay... Superman is there... let's go to the next scene... okay... Superman's here... moving on."

That just doesn't work. IT DOESN'T WORK! 🙂
Superman Returns vs Man of Steel in Movies ·
I wanted to open up this thread for those of us who still consider Superman our favorite superhero from childhood 😁.

We have two relatively recent Superman films to look at here—and while I don’t have anything against the Man of Steel era of the character, believe it or not, I actually prefer the Superman Returns film over Man of Steel... so feel free to disagree, we all have our own takes, of course 🙂.

In my eyes, Superman Returns is quite an underrated movie; it isn't exactly a masterpiece, but it is a VERY GOOD Superman film, and for several reasons, it's a better Superman film than Man of Steel—and naturally, better than Batman v Superman too.

Why?

Well... you know... when I was a kid, Superman was everything when it came to superheroes, much like he is for many people here. John Williams' score was just inseparable from Superman, just like his suit; we were all waiting for a new Superman film like people waiting for water in a desert...

I remember back in 2006, we went to the theater to see it, and when I saw that opening (and so many other scenes in Superman Returns), I got chills. That music, Marlon Brando's voice, and THAT SOMETHING you feel when watching a Superman scene... once the music kicked in during that sequence, I remember the whole theater was applauding (just like they did for the airplane scene):

The scene in this film when Superman saves the passenger plane is probably the peak of the movie right at the start, and it's definitely one of the best scenes I've ever witnessed in superhero films (I don't recall any scene in Man of Steel getting applause in a theater like that).

In my opinion, the biggest flaw in Superman Returns is the main villain, Lex Luthor. Let's be real—Kevin Spacey didn't have much to work with given how his role was written in the script. He did the best he could, but even with a subpar villain, this remains a VERY GOOD Superman film overall.

Some might say Superman Returns is just a copy of the old Superman movies, but so what if it's a copy? What's wrong with a copy if it works? For me, Superman Returns worked—it really did—because if you experience "that something" three or four times during a film as a Superman fan, enough to give you chills, then it certainly can't be a bad movie; on the contrary, it's a GOOD FILM.

Personally, I give Superman Returns an 8/10. Interestingly, in this case, the critics actually agree with me, even if the general audience doesn't. I don't really care, though—to me, this is a better film than Man of Steel as a Superman film, and I think Brandon Routh was very, very, very good as Superman.

Look, I respect Man of Steel, and I respect this new era of Superman, but... come on guys, I can't sit here and claim Man of Steel is a "better" film when I didn't feel a single chill or get "that something" I wanted from it while watching, which is exactly what I felt in Superman Returns.

I give Man of Steel a 7/10.

That movie hasn't charmed me from the day it came out, and I've never felt the need to watch Man of Steel more than twice, whereas with Superman Returns, I have. I've watched many scenes from Superman Returns thousands of times—they are just great scenes.

I can't shake the feeling that while I was watching Man of Steel, I felt like I was watching a movie about an ALIEN on Earth. And okay, Superman *is* an alien, but that's not the point... that's not what makes Superman "Superman" on screen. Everyone knows he's an alien, but failing to give someone that specific feeling in a Superman film—something Man of Steel failed to give me—is a dealbreaker, at least for me. Now, some will say I'm missing those cliché scenes where Superman saves an aunt, a child, or an elderly person. YES, I miss them, so what? Man of Steel is simply... well, okay, it's an okay movie, nothing more, nothing less, while Superman Returns is my favorite Superman film since the first two starring Christopher Reeve.

I might just be one of those rare people among you who actually preferred Superman Returns over Man of Steel—but hey, that's just my take on it. If you found Man of Steel to be the better film, I totally respect that; at the end of the day, there's no arguing with personal taste. Cheers! 🙂