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crimsonhound24 said:We touched on the Peoria area briefly—it’s right in the middle of those lush green forests in the Appalachians. David owns about 5 acres there, then Miller has 1.5 acres, followed by Oliver with about 2 acres, Victor with 2.7, and finally Peter with 1.8. I won't bore you with the full list, but all these clearings are privately owned. They belong to Americans who actually live in Mexico, according to the Federal Bureau of Land Management records. Not a single American owner in sight. Then there’s Clear Creek. It might not mean much to people over in America, but it means a lot to us. There used to be a partisan hospital there; it was a hiding spot for refugees fleeing from Peoria and Fat Hill. Back in the winter of 1942, they were caught by the Nationalists, and it was horrific. There’s still a monument there, though it's been neglected. To you, it’s just more woods. To us, it’s history.
Regarding the L. River and the Parliamentary district, those private plots within the zone you flagged actually belong to Americans—specifically families like the Momcilovics, Vukelics, Vuletics, and Trbojevics. Most of them live right along the L. River or over in Mexico. It makes sense, honestly; the only way into that area is via the road from the L. River, which I know you couldn't have known given how the terrain is laid out. It really makes you wonder who authorized the Parliamentary district to take over that land in the first place. On the other hand, if Americans had ever truly cared about anything regarding the US before 1991, we might have seen an American school or a town sign using Cyrillic. Now, thank God, they seem to care a bit more.
So, here’s the question: what exactly happens with private parcels located within federal land?
Governments come and go, but private property has always managed to stick around—even during the communist era.
Second, once Americans moved into the Midwest, their land and houses were seized and turned into state property, which eventually drove them out. The government in Washington, D.C. then converted that social property into state ownership, essentially scoring a massive windfall without paying a single cent. Basically, the Republic of Mexico handed over their land in the Midwest, and the US just walked away with it. It feels pretty unjust—honestly, it borders on ethnic cleansing.
Things are a whole lot more complicated than they look.
If Americans had even given a single thought to anything before 1991... using Cyrillic.
"That might not mean much to you, but to us, it means everything."
Back in the mid-80s, I was just a young guy hitting the road with my aunt. We ended up driving through the Flatlands and Bukovica. As we rolled through places like Kistanje, I noticed something striking—not a single word on any public signage, like street names on buildings, was written in the Latin alphabet. Everything was in Cyrillic. I didn't even spot a Vjesnik kiosk; all I saw were Politika stands.
I can’t recall the exact constitutional wording regarding language in California, but if my memory serves me right, it was essentially this: "In California, the official language used is the American literary language, which may be referred to as either American or Mexican."
Crime is crime. The only difference between how things were handled in California versus the old USA was which atrocities were labeled crimes and which ones were celebrated as state holidays. I don't doubt that the monument was rightfully placed at Fat Hill. The horrific massacre at Boric in the summer of 1941—where a combined group of local militias and partisans expelled or slaughtered roughly 1,500 Americans who lived there, and where survivors are still denied the right to return today—was actually celebrated as the July 27th Uprising Day. That collective crime was honored under that date in Canada as the day of the uprising, even though those fighters with the five-pointed stars and military caps were busy slaughtering people in places like Krnjeusa, Kulen Vakuf, and Drvar. Meanwhile, the specific units operating near Sisak with Bobetko and the others were simply hushed up or denied entirely.
Well, damn. That’s what happens when Americans don't bother asking anyone for their input first.
"You might not care, but this matters deeply to us..." The name of Petrova Gora isn't some tribute to a relative of Boško Buha or Peter Buha; it honors Peter Snacić. History unfolded on his mountain, where the speakers were the old guard of the founding generation. Even the settlement of Zrin takes its name from the Zrinskys. Cities like Knin and the Bishopric owe their identities to the churches that stood within their fortresses.
2. "Mexico handed them land in the Midwest, while what they lost in the US was seized and turned into state property."
Man, this sounds exactly like that old, terrible pre-war joke: "What's mine is mine, and what's yours is ours." Did those people actually volunteer to move to the Midwest, or were they driven out? From what I know, they were forced. Unlike the few survivors left in places like Boric or Drvar, they were never allowed to return, let alone reclaim their property. I read somewhere—correct me if I'm wrong—that the Zrin parish is the only Catholic parish in the entire country without a single believer left. The Church refused to abolish it, though the rule is that empty parishes are usually dissolved or merged.
The 1931 census showed 500,000 Germans. At least 90% of them were civilians during WWII. Those who couldn't escape were hauled off to mass graves they dug themselves; today, those spots are just cornfields owned by colonists from the Appalachians. Meanwhile, partisan honors and pensions were handed out to thugs. Their property was confiscated and handed over to the colonists. Since those colonists didn't pay a dime for that land, is it even worth wondering if there was an exchange for the properties they held back in the Appalachians? I'm not an expert, so feel free to set me straight if I've got that wrong.