Posts by Sandra Morgan2

Anthony Perez9 said:If that's how you want to take it, fine, but that wasn't my point. 😉

People have turned "reaching realization" into this sacred little fetish.

It’s like someone obsessing over being "cured" when they're actually just a hypochondriac. In that case, the "desire to be cured" is the actual sickness.

The only thing that makes sense is realizing you've been acting like an idiot the whole time.
Asking "How do I get there? What are the steps? How can I speed this up?" is just another hypochondriac trick to drag out the "treatment period" until death—which means never.

Convincing a hypochondriac that running from doctor to doctor (guru, books, saints, altars) is somehow "deeply meaningful" just lines the pockets of spiritual scammers who peddle their holy guidance at the local spirituality/faith/religion market for cash and ego.

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Then there’s Krein’s "Watch Destroyer." He probably just gave in to total laziness.
That guy is even worse than the hypochondriacs. 😁

Summary: we've got spiritual

1. active hypochondriacs.
2. gullible believers who blindly follow authority figures.
3. lazy slackers.

The third group is the absolute worst. 😂

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* slacker/lazy state.

Just a common way to describe that low-energy, lethargic vibe...

So where do the Jeffs fit into your little categories? The ones making a living off of

- seminars
- enlightenment intensives
- retreats
- podcasts and iPhone apps
- selling selfies
- peddling books about their "insights"
- posting those beaming, "enlightened" smiles on their websites

Where are the people actually earning money because they finally figured out who they are? To me, what these guys say often feels like just a remix of someone else's New Age mental gymnastics—pseudo-enlightened rambling that just leaves seekers more confused. They think they can stop searching because these Jeffs will use their texts, lectures, essays, and aphorisms to explain how "searching" isn't even necessary. Charging money to tell you how things work (or don't) is called one thing: business. Even if Jeff probably prefers to call it his "mission" or his "calling."

Paul Jones7 said:I was talking about insight earlier—how it kind of operates through this sort of transcendent bridge. It's like a flash of awareness regarding something. In a way, that flash *is* Beyond Mind. But I wouldn't say the mind itself is irrelevant; it can perform its job better or worse depending on the situation. If it weren't useful, we probably wouldn't even have it, right?

The path leads to the destination. As for the pace of it all... well, I guess not everyone is cut out for enlightenment; though I wouldn't go so far as to say everything else in life is pointless, either.

As I was typing this out, something just clicked 🙂

Personally, I really liked your idea about traveling for the sake of travel. They say the world is divine Lila—pure play. If we take all of this seriously, we should just do what brings us joy, acting with our full being, keeping an open mind and heart. No more relying on reference points in teachings, gurus, scriptures, or even forum members...

They say life is a sexually transmitted disease that ends in death 100% of the time. So let's relax! At its core, life is short, but it's beautiful, miraculous, mystical—a thrilling roller coaster at a carnival of separation. We are just unique, fleeting blooms in a field of eternity... You can't tell a flower how to be or what it "should" do. So, Paul Jones7, my friend—let's just love and do what we feel called to do. 🙂 .....

Paul Jones7 said:But I feel like every little realization is a tiny version of finding something, and honestly, that’s enough to make the whole process feel meaningful. I mean, when you finally grasp something, should someone really have the nerve to tell you that you haven't "found" anything? 🙂

For me, those little flashes of insight—those moments where things just click—are one of the few things that actually make life worth living.

Plus, for someone who isn't obsessed with reaching a specific finish line, the journey itself becomes the whole point, which I suppose means you're already fulfilled just by moving through it.

Realizing and understanding—that's just brain function. It all hinges on awareness. If your awareness is asleep, your understanding stays limited. That's why Sandra Morgan2 says—go Beyond Mind. Because Beyond Mind is pure consciousness.

Besides, for someone who isn't obsessed with the end goal, the journey itself becomes the destination. They find fulfillment just by moving through it.

🙂Sure, that works... but then it isn't a search anymore. It's just a vacation. A summer trip....

Paul Jones7 said:I don't think the searching is what causes the restlessness, really... I think it's the expectations—you know, that pressure to actually achieve something—that does it. If you just let go of those expectations, the restlessness kind of disappears.

You can't really search without expecting to find what you're looking for... If the search lacks a goal, then—and only then—is it just frantic wandering. There’s no such thing as a "fair wind" for someone who doesn't know where they're headed. And there's no fair wind for the person who *thinks* they know their course when they're actually chasing spiritual goals. Navigation becomes pointless... because there is nowhere to go when there is no destination to reach. Every search happens in the darkness between our two ears, and everything we do with the mind just ends up agitating the mind. Beyond the mind—once it's as still and clear as a mountain lake—lies pure consciousness.

Daniel Castillo11 said:The whole concept of "purpose" is actually quite anxiety-inducing; it tends to fuel that restless drive in people who are constantly searching or running away from themselves, creating this heavy pressure that prevents them from just soaking in the moment or enjoying life as it unfolds. There isn't some ultimate, pre-ordained purpose waiting at the finish line; rather, an individual has to carve out their own meaning as they navigate through life. At the end of the day, the mystery of existence remains just that—a mystery—no matter how many mountains of philosophical speculation or deep thinking we pile up.

in that case, the goal isn't to hunt down an essence; perhaps the true aim is to celebrate that essence, to manifest its purest form, which would necessitate reaching a much higher state of awareness.

For most spiritual seekers, finding that "essence" is the ultimate prize, though they usually view it as something supernatural. Personally, I've always had a hard time with that idea of the "supernatural." If an essence truly exists, it shouldn't be some separate object hovering above creation; it has to be an intrinsic part of creation itself, given the premise that everything belongs to the same unified system—the Absolute, or Being. If something is outside of nature, then by definition, it doesn't exist within nature.

That’s why I find that regardless of which spiritual tradition or religion you look at, there is always this inherent, subtle duality creeping in. It seems clear to me that such ideas breed anxiety, which then triggers even more dualistic pairings and those somewhat pious explanations designed to transcend the very duality they created through linear reasoning. It reminds me of a dog chasing its own tail in endless circles. 🙂

I tend to believe that humans are inherently limited; we can't be aware of everything simultaneously, nor can we magically grasp the fundamental mechanics of the cosmos through experimentation. We are confined to what our intellect and sensory perceptions allow, which means we are ultimately left with our own subjective experience of reality. So, what is left once you strip everything else away? If there aren't higher planes of existence, magic, or mystical energies, then all we really have is this immediate experience, right here and now. There is a certain beauty in being conscious of the moment and recognizing that we are simply a part of the natural process—one that is always at one with nature, regardless of the identities we construct for ourselves. From that realization, a greater sense of moral responsibility emerges in how we live actively, knowing that everything is fundamentally interconnected. To me, that feels like a healthy balance.

And that, in my view, is what true higher consciousness looks like. It moves beyond concepts of the "supernatural" or the conventional moralizing that tells us we must achieve something specific or else we are failures or slaves to fate. Everything is already present; we should simply work with what we have been given through nature, evolution, and the unfolding of the cosmos. Humans might be "slaves" to various things, but it is far better to accept that reality than to delude oneself into thinking one is something more than the illusory identity shaped by brain chemistry.🙂

👍 spot on

Quinn:

And to me, that is higher consciousness. Moving past concepts of the supernatural or conventional moralizing about what should be achieved, or whether a person is trapped or a slave. Everything is already here; we just need to work with what we've been given by nature, evolution, and cosmic development. People act like slaves in one way or another. They're better off accepting that than thinking they are anything more than an illusory identity driven by brain chemistry🙂.

That isn't higher consciousness. That's just standard human consciousness. Consciousness is that part of us that is... well, the so-called otherworldly, non-dual, divine... It is the part within us that is indivisible, non-dual, one, unknowable, mysterious, yet simultaneously so intimate—closer to us than our own breath
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A total awakening of consciousness is the goal for anyone searching. But the search itself creates restlessness, exactly the way you described
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@ Daniel Castillo11 My deepest respects... seriously impressive recent posts.

As for enlightened Jeff and all his sermons, websites, podcasts, and whatnot—it actually reminded me of this joke:

God and the devil are looking down from above at a man who just reached enlightenment:
- He's saved, says God. He's finally enlightened; he knows exactly who he is.
There's nothing you can do to him now...
- Hehe, on the contrary, now the real work begins, says the devil. Now I get to help him
get organized, build a following, and preach everything he's discovered.

Chris Peterson53 said:Or what about those people who just seem to have the universe on their side? I’m talking about folks who aren't even religious—so they don't credit God for their luck—and they don't buy into any spiritual "law of attraction" nonsense either. They’re just the type of people who happen to trip over a twenty-dollar bill on a sidewalk, or find a piece of jewelry just lying there. Or maybe they answer some random trivia question out of sheer boredom and walk away with a massive prize. Even that scenario where a wealthy aunt leaves her entire estate to one specific person instead of her twenty other nieces and nephews—even when that person barely spent any time looking after her...
Recently, a cousin of mine—someone who fits this description perfectly—inherited everything from another relative,
who didn't leave a single cent to their own immediate family.
Knowing plenty of other people blessed with this strange kind of luck, I've been sitting here wondering why, but I haven't found an answer... 😉
How do you actually explain these kinds of occurrences?
Is it pure predestination?
Some subconscious power to attract material wealth? ☕

Probably just good money karma... I know someone who found massive amounts of cash just by looking at the ground. On top of that, he was constantly finding gold charms, earrings, watches. He even stumbled upon at least ten four-leaf clovers.

Through a series of lucky breaks, without much effort at all, he went from being a broke laborer in a small town to a wealthy executive in a major Manhattan firm. He acquired houses, apartments, a yacht, and all the status symbols to match—with ease. But... just like in that song about Vasa ladački....



Because when he was stingy—when he only knew how to take, collect, and grab, but never give—he was a miserable, lonely, dissatisfied man. Until his very last breath, he was busy grabbing more with one hand while clutching what he already had with the other, always suspicious that "they" were out to rob him. He was a terrible friend, a bad husband, and a lousy father. Bitter, discontented, greedy, selfish, and hard-hearted. In the end, it all caught up to him.

So now what? Nothing. Just writing this long post, remembering that dear, crazy guy... I just wanted to say that the "lucky hand" you're talking about isn't the key to happiness. Let me sing you a little tune:

money isn't everything
but let it stay right here next to me🙂

lonegardener said:I’d argue it’s actually the exact opposite. Those first group you mentioned? They can experience those things because they have enough serotonin to manufacture a "good feeling" out of thin air. In a sense, it acts like a natural high. Non-depressed, "normal" people are essentially just life-junkies who perceive reality through a distorted lens, much like anyone struggling with addiction.

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And yeah, you're spot on... It really makes you stop and wonder what reality actually is.

Jacob Mitchell3 said:But depression isn't the cause; it is the consequence of becoming aware of that perceived void.
Consequently, such a condition cannot be cured by psychiatrists or medication alone. It can only be resolved when an individual discovers their own purpose in life and work—a task for which no one else can provide the answer.
It is a cornered, inescapable feeling, which explains why so many people desperately turn to faith.
What else is left for them to do?

I see it differently. Suffering from a lack of meaning is just a symptom of depression. Meaninglessness doesn't cause depression. If it did, anyone who had a deep thought about how pointless life is would spiral into a breakdown, but that's not how it works. Most people can debate the meaning of life endlessly without feeling any despair at all.

Some people, upon realizing this, learn to enjoy the moment. They view life as a cosmic joke, embrace the "wu wei" path, and just flow with the river of existence—unburdened by the fact that their tiny lives won't leave a mark on the planet or be remembered by their great-grandchildren in a hundred years. But others feel that emptiness as a massive black hole they can't fill, a terrifying void within them calling toward death. That's all down to a lack of serotonin in the brain, not the concept of meaning itself.

But for the original poster and any other depressed readers out there—even in the face of that dark abyss of meaninglessness—take comfort in this: depression puts you in very good company. You're among incredibly gifted, brilliant, and respected individuals, and Leo Tolstoy is just one of many famous depressed people
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Jacob Mitchell3 said:Quincy:

Are you ruling out the possibility that Leo Tolstoy suffered from depression?

I find that unlikely. He possessed a profound zest for life—an appreciation for women, for social engagement, a certain sensuality and passion. His anxiety didn't strike when he was lacking; rather, it took hold precisely when he had achieved everything he set out to do.
He spiraled into a crisis once he confronted the reality of mortality. He realized that death is an absolute end, and that his literary efforts might eventually fade into obscurity just as surely as he himself would vanish. He began to wonder why one should endure such struggle at all, questioning whether life is merely a fleeting intoxication that masks a deeper deception.
He ultimately sought refuge in religion, concluding that a life without God is unsustainable. To him, faith was the only mechanism capable of providing purpose, tempering human selfishness, teaching morality, and finally dismantling the paralyzing fear of death.

Honestly, I suspect he was depressed. That’s what American psychiatrists suggest, anyway. Wrestling with the perceived meaninglessness of existence is a classic symptom of depression. Even Leo Tolstoy attempted suicide a few times—which is just another symptom of suicidal depression.

He wrote in one of his letters, "If it were impossible to live, then one would kill oneself; and consequently one cannot speak of life as being unbearable. The possibility of killing himself has been given to man, and therefore he may kill himself, and he continually uses this right - when he kills himself in duels, in war, by dissipation, wine, tobacco, opium, etc."

In his book titled 'A Confession', Leo Tolstoy wrote about his inner struggle to find the meaning of his life. He explains how he decided to bury himself in his work in order to avoid facing the deeper questions of life. But the more he tried to avoid, the more problems began to torture him.

As time marched on, his bouts of depression grew more frequent and more intense, threatening him. He began to think that only death can save him from the smothering depression.

Since we've shifted from spirituality to psychology, I want to briefly circle back to the spiritual side of things. I'd argue that while life might truly lack an inherent meaning, when that realization arrives as a spiritual breakthrough, it brings a sense of relief and personal freedom. When thoughts of meaninglessness are coupled with intense mental anguish, then we are looking at a depressive state of mind.

Jacob Mitchell3 said:If that's the case, you aren't TRULY aware of how meaningless life can be.

It is a tragedy when people retreat into fiction to hunt for answers to reality.

Leo Tolstoy describes his own experience of losing faith and confronting the void while he was at the absolute pinnacle of his social and professional standing.

And rather than engaging with anything substantive, he fills that emptiness with something as trivial as Swiss cheese. Talking about holes...

Are you suggesting that the man who penned "War and Peace" simply needed a hobby to stay busy? 🤣
He understood perfectly well that the immense effort poured into his writing was ultimately futile and devoid of inherent value.
Yet, even while teetering on the edge of self-destruction, he eventually discovered purpose through Christian faith, finding profound inspiration in the quiet simplicity of an American farmer's life.

For some people, that exact realization brings nothing but relief—this joyful epiphany that since absolutely nothing matters, we aren't tied down by any obligations. We can chase any goal we want, or just ditch goals entirely and simply flow with the energy of life.

In those folks, absurdity creates a sense of pure freedom.

Other people, though? That same realization leads them straight into the terror of nihilism. To me, nihilism is death for the mind—a cancer of the soul, a way of seeing the world that drives you straight into madness.

Leo Tolstoy describes his own experience losing faith and facing that void of meaning, happening right when he was at the absolute peak of his private and professional life.

Are you ruling out the possibility that Leo Tolstoy was actually suffering from depression?

Carol Kelly2 said:Withdrawing from my surroundings won't make much of a difference. I have no desire to go exploring; honestly, I'm just exhausted by the idea of traveling. I’ve tried being alone before, which offered some relief, but it was only temporary. I can't exactly head out with anyone else since I don't really socialize, yet I lack the drive to change that either. Attempting to lead an adventurous life only intensified my sense of nausea—I gave it a shot, and it simply didn't work.

So, you used to be different, but you aren't anymore? How exactly do you listen to your heart? Have you truly grasped that vital truth you mentioned? What specific truth were you referring to?

What you're describing sounds a lot like symptoms of depression. Here is a link so you can see if your experience matches up. If the answer is YES, the best move is to talk to a professional who can give you a proper diagnosis and find the right treatment—you'll feel so much better afterward. And if you read the whole article, you'll find some alternative ways to help yourself, too.

Alex Thomas27 said:Cheryl, intuition isn't just knowing something out of thin air without any stimulus. By definition, intuition is perception filtered through the subconscious. Just because something happens subconsciously doesn't mean there wasn't a stimulus; it doesn't mean you're pulling facts out of a vacuum. If something is unconscious, it doesn't mean the trigger didn't exist.

For example, you notice something suspicious, but then you immediately forget about it. But that "cut" hasn't disappeared. It stays in your subconscious. Then, when you encounter a situation later on (one that relates back to what you saw), you get an immediate sense that something is off. Your mind remembers that suspicious detail, even if you can't consciously access the memory itself.

The astrology and magic comment was a bit clumsy. I wasn't being serious.

Claiming you know you're pregnant two minutes after sex is just a lucky guess. Even your subconscious wouldn't know that, so it can't be intuition if we're defining intuition as perception via the subconscious. Your subconscious has to receive a stimulus first, even if you aren't aware of it or don't remember it.

To have an intuitive realization about being pregnant, a stimulus has to occur. That usually happens a week after sex during implantation. For heaven's sake, fertilization can happen while you're sitting at your desk at work, a few hours after intercourse.

For it to count as intuition, there has to be a stimulus, regardless of whether the person remembers it or feels it.

Can someone else please jump into this debate? This is getting exhausting.

Look, honey, I told you exactly that! You just aren't reading closely enough.

Sandra Morgan2 said:1. No hard feelings, Alex Thomas27 🙂. While feeling symptoms as early as 6 or 7 days is definitely rare, it does happen to some women.

2. To be clear, my friend didn't feel anything physical. The meeting of the sperm and the egg isn't instantaneous; those swimmers have to make their way up to the fallopian tubes first, which can take hours or even a couple of days. She just knew on a completely different level that *that* specific moment was the one that would lead to a baby... it was this instant, intuitive flash of what was coming next. And intuition, by its very nature, is knowing something 100% without having any clue how you know it.

Since this has become such an uphill battle, there’s really no point in me trying to break down all the science and theory behind intuitive insight. I could go on about how the subconscious doesn't grasp linear time, how it isn't bound by our physical space, its specific syntax, or even the "language" our inner selves use to communicate—not to mention how recent studies suggest the universe is holographic, which offers a pretty solid explanation for intuition itself. I already gave you a full response regarding hysterical pregnancy and the psychological profile behind it in one of my previous posts. You didn't even comment on it, even though you wanted to discuss it! At this point, I'm out of things to say. Best of luck!👋

Alex Thomas27 said:Sandra Morgan2, didn't you mention your friend "knew" just two minutes after sex? Honestly, that sounds pretty ridiculous to me—total shot in the dark if you ask me. Plus, Scarlett Johansson thinks those kinds of situations definitely need a follow-up check.

Of course it sounds ridiculous to you! That's because you clearly don't understand what intuition actually is. To you, some vague gut feeling must be tied to astrology or something. Since intuition is actually a legitimate field of psychological study—and since you seem interested in it—maybe try doing some actual research before jumping to conclusions. Otherwise, you're just being as silly as you think I am.

Alex Thomas27 said:

You can't rule out the idea that women actually know they're pregnant very early on just because some of them imagine it when they aren't.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if some women just get lucky with a guess!
If you aren't following the science here, once the sperm meets the egg, it takes at least a week before the body even realizes what happened. Implantation is the key. That’s when the fertilized egg actually attaches to the uterine wall. Only then does the body get the memo that pregnancy has occurred. The body isn't magically aware two minutes after conception. There’s no feedback loop. No implantation, no signal.

That's just because you probably aren't in tune with your own body or your intuition.

If you don't get it—it takes at least a week after sperm meets egg before the body feels IMPLANTATION. IMPLANTATION happens when the egg attaches to the uterine wall. That's the moment the body knows pregnancy has occurred. The body doesn't know about a pregnancy two minutes after fertilization. There is no feedback! No IMPLANTATION.

Yeah... and... you're just repeating what I told you... whatever...

Back to the topic.

Pseudocyesis—false pregnancy—happens when a woman wants a child so intensely that she truly believes she is pregnant. Since the brain genuinely struggles to distinguish deep conviction from reality, it triggers all the symptoms: missed periods, nausea, vomiting, abdominal swelling, and even lactation, cervical softening, and actual labor...

Another cause for false pregnancy is depression, which can trigger changes in the pituitary gland, leading to hormonal imbalances that mimic pregnancy.

It most commonly occurs in women who have survived incest or those who have suffered a miscarriage. Very often, all the symptoms vanish once the woman sees an ultrasound, but since the underlying issue is a medical mental health condition, treatment is necessary because a false pregnancy can recur.

Alex Thomas27 said:The thing is, you just can't know everything right away. A week out? Everything feels fine and balanced...
But give it a few more days, and suddenly you're hit with this intense, overwhelming urge to have a baby. You might spiral into an obsession, feel totally off-kilter, or face the crushing weight of a miscarriage—especially when you mix extreme stress and emotional instability with a cocktail of hormones that feel like a literal hurricane. Throw in sky-high expectations, and things can get pretty hysterical...

Let's look at fertilization as our starting point here, not implantation.

My point is that some women can feel those pregnancy symptoms incredibly early, while others just sense it intuitively.

And obviously, because of that desperate longing (or even the fear of getting pregnant), some women might imagine it. They can actually manifest physical symptoms as if they were pregnant. In extreme cases, you're looking at a phantom pregnancy, which is a psychological condition.

You can't rule out the fact that some women truly believe they know they're pregnant very early on, simply because they've convinced themselves they are when they aren't.

Alex Thomas27 said:Intuition sounds like something straight out of an astrology book or a magic show.
Personally, I’d say she was just losing her grip on reality. The one saving grace is that she actually did end up pregnant, but let's be real—that's just pure luck. She had incredible luck, not "intuition."

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Alex, don't jump to conclusions. Before you categorize something when you clearly know nothing about it, do your homework.

I’d say she was schizo—basically losing her grip on reality. The one saving grace is that she actually was pregnant, but even then, that just means she got incredibly lucky. She had luck, not intuition.

In your last post, you called a woman psychotic just for feeling early pregnancy symptoms a few days after conception. Now, you're labeling intuitive insight as schizophrenia and a break from reality. That says everything about you and absolutely nothing about sensitive, intuitive women.

Alex Thomas27 said:Sandra Morgan2
1)I honestly thought it happened a week after fertilization. My bad.
2)Your friend hit the jackpot. It’s almost like the fertilized egg—which she didn't even feel—didn't even have to bother implanting in the uterine wall.

1. No hard feelings, Alex Thomas27 🙂. While feeling symptoms as early as 6 or 7 days is definitely rare, it does happen to some women.

2. To be clear, my friend didn't feel anything physical. The meeting of the sperm and the egg isn't instantaneous; those swimmers have to make their way up to the fallopian tubes first, which can take hours or even a couple of days. She just knew on a completely different level that *that* specific moment was the one that would lead to a baby... it was this instant, intuitive flash of what was coming next. And intuition, by its very nature, is knowing something 100% without having any clue how you know it.

Alex Thomas27 said:Symptoms show up about a week after conception. Anyone claiming to feel symptoms on the actual day of conception shouldn't be feeling them at all. Honestly, I'd suggest those women look into some medical literature or see a specialist, because they are either:
A) Psychotic
B) Uninformed. If they realized symptoms actually take a week to kick in, they might actually celebrate their baby's "conception anniversary" on the right date. Otherwise, they'll be celebrating a week late.

But the woman said she knew within just a few days... Plenty of women realize they're pregnant very quickly. Implantation can happen anywhere from 6 to 12 days after ovulation, and hCG starts secreting immediately, climbing steadily until weeks 10-12.

HCG levels double every 48 hours, and implantation itself—around day 6—can even cause light spotting. It's entirely possible that a sensitive woman who is truly in tune with her body might sense early pregnancy symptoms immediately, simply because the hormonal landscape shifts so rapidly right after implantation.

Just because a test can't detect a tiny spike in hCG at the very start doesn't mean the body isn't sending signals. Someone deeply connected to their physical self might feel that subtle shift indicating pregnancy.

And don't even get me started on female intuition... A friend of mine woke her husband up in the middle of the night, hit him with a level of passion she'd never felt before, and then just rolled over and fell fast asleep thinking, "I'm pregnant." And she was... it was exactly like that.

Thomas Rodriguez14 said:Hey everyone! Hope I’m in the right spot for this—if not, mods, please feel free to move this thread. So, I'm looking for some advice on the best way to distance myself from someone? It's a girl I call a friend, and honestly, she isn't bad at all—actually, she's great—and we get along fine. But for some reason I can't quite put my finger on, I just want to drift away... you know, reach that "see ya later" stage. She hasn't actually done anything wrong or anything like that, but I just can't describe this vibe I get when I'm around her. Basically, I just want to create as much space as possible. What's the best way to handle this? Thanks in advance for any help!

Before deciding to run from someone, I would definitely take a hard look at that "unknown reason, that indescribable feeling I get when I'm with her."

Sometimes, people who trigger those vague feelings are actually bringing us unknown gifts. They act like a mirror, reflecting something inside us that is ready to evolve and improve.

So, don't skip over those weird feelings. Dive into them. Once you strip away your own unknown projections from her, you'll see her for who she truly is, rather than what she triggers in you. Then, make your choice about whether you want to hang out with her or not.