Posts by nimblewolf11

Peter Phillips32 said:I honestly have no clue who you're actually aiming at with this post, so I guess I’m just gonna have to point out how incredibly vague and open to interpretation this whole thing is.

I honestly can't wrap my head around people who just sit there philosophizing about absolutely nothing, just talking in circles to hear their own voices, or those self-righteous types who act like some kind of holy priest coming in here to enlighten everyone else when they clearly haven't got a clue.

If everyone jumping on this thread is just dumping their little "short awakening" stories—you know, those experiences they claim are totally misreported because they can’t even wrap their heads around what actually went down or distinguish what was real from what they basically made up on the fly—then honestly, we’re all just spinning our wheels, talking into a void. It’s all just empty philosophy at that point. These people act like they're some kind of spiritual counselors, pretending to care about other wandering souls searching for the actual Truth—and I mean the real deal, not that religious nonsense or the fake alternative stuff you see everywhere—just trying to use someone else's perspective to push this old, new spiritual Truth onto everyone else.

Honestly, they’d be much better off just opening their own eyes for once, because let me tell you, the more you try to break it down for them or sit there typing out these massive, winding essays, the less right you actually seem to be—or maybe it's just that you end up looking even more wrong in their eyes.

So, what you’re actually trying to say is that anyone posting about those brief moments of awakening is basically tripping over their own feet before they even start? Like, if they lead with that whole "you can't explain the supernatural because it's just too beyond words" dogma, they’ve already nuked their own credibility. They’re basically handing out a disclaimer that says, "Hey, don't bother listening to my story, because I've already decided everything I'm about to tell you is impossible to describe." It's kind of a self-defeating loop, isn't it? You try to share an experience, but then you immediately shut the door on any actual explanation by claiming it's all "ineffable" or whatever, which just kills the whole point of the conversation.

So, what does it actually mean when someone drops a line like "the supernatural exists" or follows it up with "my specific explanation for the supernatural is the only right one"? Is that even a dogma anymore, or is it just a collection of plain old claims that eventually turn out to be false because they were built on some shaky, initial dogma to begin with? It’s a weird loop, honestly. You start with a foundational belief—a dogma—and then you spend the rest of your life building these massive, complicated structures of "truth" on top of it, only to realize the whole thing is just a house of cards because the first card was a lie. It makes you wonder if we're all just circling the drain of our own assumptions.

Look, if I actually wanted to read a book, I’d just head down to the local library, wouldn't I?

Look, let's add a little nuance here, shall we? I really don't want everyone cluttering up the feed with endless posts about their brief little "epiphanies" or fleeting moments of clarity. If you're actually looking to sit around and digest long-winded, deep-dive life stories, then honestly, you'd be much better off heading down to the local library instead.

I honestly wish all these self-proclaimed geniuses would finally just start using abbreviations instead of writing these endless, exhausting essays. 😁

So, what’s the shorthand for when you're stuck and there's just absolutely nothing left to say about the supernatural stuff?

Look, I’m just gonna say it—you gotta stay awake. Seriously. It sounds like some cliché advice you'd hear from a life coach on a podcast, but honestly, if you let yourself drift off when things are actually happening, you’re basically handing over the keys to your own life. I know, I know, I'm rambling, and yeah, maybe I need more coffee because my brain feels like it's running through molasses, but there's a real weight to this. You can't afford to be sleepwalking through your existence while everyone else is making moves. It’s easy to just zone out, sink into that comfortable numbness, but that's how you miss the turning points. So, brace yourself, grab another cup, and just... stay alert. 😉

Is this actually meant for people who genuinely want to learn something, or is it just for those looking to switch off their brains entirely and sink into that "here-and-now" delirium—you know, the kind where you just soak up the immediate chaos and store it away like some sort of emotional high?

Look, next time just go ahead and throw some actual names out there. You know as well as I do that’s what you’re itching for, and honestly, if you just lay it all out, I’ll be able to put together a much better response to whatever it is you've written.

I mean, it’s kind of my thought that some people just have this knack for talking about the supernatural in a way that sounds super clear and concrete, you know? And because they can spin those tales so convincingly, they end up being labeled as gurus, which basically turns them into these massive authorities on everything weird and unexplainable—and then everyone else just starts parroting whatever nonsense they put out there.

I guess what I’m getting at is that some people can probably take bits and pieces of whatever some guru just preached and actually make them sound clear and concrete, you know? Like, they can sharpen the edges of a specific point or two, but when it comes to the whole damn picture—the entire philosophy or the big picture—they just can't quite nail it. It’s like they can explain the ingredients but have absolutely no clue how to describe the actual meal.

I’m just saying, it feels like some people are totally fine with just latching onto some guru, following them around like lost puppies, and then just parroting back whatever they heard through their own filtered, half-baked version of what that leader actually said.

I mean, look, if people find out someone’s an infidel—or just doesn't toe the line like everyone else—then whatever they have to say about the supernatural stuff is basically dead on arrival. It’s like, once you're labeled as a dissenter, nobody wants to hear your take. They won't even grant you the basic level of self-awareness you need to actually explain an internal experience, or if they do, they’ll act like you barely have any consciousness at all. It’s a total shut-out from the jump.

I don't even have to look that far, honestly—it’s sitting right there in your next quote.

Man, that’s just total nonsense right there. Honestly, priests aren't some special breed of humans; they're just people who actually took the time to tap into their spiritual side and wake up to it, unlike everyone else out there who's just sleepwalking through life. And another thing... They aren't.

There it is! Right on cue. Honestly, it’s the exact same thing you hear from all those different crowds—Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, people obsessed with their horoscopes, even the Satanists and magicians—it’s all just the same old story, they just swap out the labels to fit their own little vibe.

Just because all these different spiritualities are popping up everywhere lately... I don't even know where to start with this one, honestly, because looking back at what was said, it feels like we're all just circling the drain of some massive misunderstanding that nobody actually wants to fix. I was sitting there thinking about how much time we waste arguing over semantics when the actual core of the issue is staring us right in the face, and frankly, it’s kind of embarrassing if I'm being real with myself. It’s like that old saying—or maybe it was just something I read once—about how people will fight over the color of the curtains while the whole house is literally on fire, you know? And look, I’m not trying to be that guy, the one who jumps in to play philosopher when everyone else is just trying to have a conversation, but I can't help but feel like we're missing the forest for the trees here. We get so caught up in who said what and who's "right" that we completely lose sight of the fact that we're all just humans trying to make sense of a chaotic mess. Anyway, I'm probably just rambling now, my brain is basically mush after today, but I felt like I had to say something before the thread just dissolves into more of the same nonsense.So, what’s the deal with all these different types of yoga people are obsessing over lately? Honestly, I don't even know where to start with it all. It feels like every time I turn around, there's some new "revolutionary" way to stretch or breathe that's supposed to fix your entire life, which sounds pretty ambitious if you ask me. One minute it's all about intense power moves, and the next, someone's telling you to just sit there in silence and find your inner peace—which, let's be real, is hard enough to do without adding extra steps. It's just one endless cycle of new trends, and frankly, I'm a little lost in the shuffle. I don't know, man, I was just sitting here thinking about how everything feels so incredibly heavy lately, you know? Like, you try to find some kind of solid ground, some actual substance in all this noise, but it's like trying to grab smoke with your bare hands. It’s exhausting, honestly. I feel like I’m constantly spinning my wheels, trying to make sense of things that probably don't even want to be understood, and maybe that's just me being a bit of a mess. I tend to overthink everything—it's a curse, really—but I can't help it. I just end up going down these rabbit holes where I start questioning if anything we see is even real or if we're all just playing parts in some massive, poorly written play. Anyway, I'm just rambling now. My bad. Just one of those days where my brain won't shut up.Look, just because you see more and more people out there chasing all these different kinds of spirituality doesn't mean they actually share some common ground. You can have a million different paths, but that doesn't mean they all lead back to one single foundation—that one core essence that acts as the universal denominator for anyone dabbling in the spiritual realm. Just because everyone is calling themselves "spiritual" nowadays doesn't mean there's one ultimate Truth that binds us all together, even if we'd like to think there is.

And why on earth would anyone even try to claim we’re culturally equal to... you know, whatever they're talking about? It just doesn't track. religious So, what’s the deal with these modern movements claiming they’ve finally cornered the market on the Truth? It makes me wonder why these trendy little ideologies feel such a desperate, clawing need for some kind of ultimate authority to back them up. Honestly, it feels like they can't even stand on their own two feet without some heavy-handed figurehead telling everyone how to think, which just seems... I don't know, a bit pathetic if you ask me. Why does every new social crusade need a drill sergeant to validate its existence?

Look, it’s kind of like how some teenager thinks they’re being all deep and sophisticated just because they’ve picked up a copy of Tolstoy, but honestly? They aren't any more special than some little kid in elementary school still getting a kick out of reading Šegrt Hlapić. 🤷

It’s pretty much like how a Catholic, a Muslim, or any other kind of exclusive truth-holder isn't going to sit there and agree with you that everyone should just bundle up under your specific, exclusive Truth. You know they won't:

It really comes down to the individual; not everyone is equally aware of what they've experienced, the intensity of those experiences varies wildly, and let's face it, not everyone is a smooth talker when it comes to putting things into words.

Anyway, my mom always tells this story about when I was just a little kid out on a boat for the first time, surrounded by nothing but deep blue water, and I looked at it and told her the ocean felt as thick as pudding! 😍
I guess my experience was just super intense and beautiful—mostly because I was absolutely obsessed with pudding back then 😁—but you have to wonder how some other kid would describe it, especially if they'd never even laid eyes on the ocean before.

But here, we’re talking about impressions that supposedly exist beyond our five senses, yet we're expected to convey them just by rearranging about thirty letters...🤷

The whole reason you even know you felt something is precisely because you have the ability to rearrange those thirty letters in different ways. So, claiming that you "know" something exists that is somehow fundamentally beyond your capacity to explain is just an absurdity; it completely undermines the whole argument that there's something out there you can feel but simply cannot articulate.

Peter Phillips32 said:Alright, well then I've got another question for you.

Why do you think it is that some people can articulate exactly what that thing is inside them with total clarity, while others struggle to put it into words, and some people can't grasp it at all?

Peter Phillips32 said:That’s exactly why I jumped into this thread in the first place. ☕

Look, nobody actually asked for your two cents, your unsolicited lectures, or all this negativity you're spewing. Nobody requested your little deep dive into stuff you haven't even lived through yourself, so I've gotta wonder—what's with this desperate need to meddle in everything?

And why on earth doesn't anyone ever bother asking the real question—like, where did all that supposed infinite love and deep connection with the universe go the second you actually had to deal with me?

Look, nobody here is out here begging for help or acting all uncertain about anything, so I’ve gotta ask—what on earth are you even doing here? Seriously, you're hanging out in a thread where you clearly don't belong, adding absolutely zero value to the conversation, yet somehow you're still lurking around like you've got something to say... why?

Man, you just showered me with such an endless amount of love. Honestly, I’m already starting to feel this deep connection you have with everything out there—including, apparently, with me.

Come on, just keep loving me, please.

I honestly don't even know where to start with this one because everything feels like such a massive, tangled mess, but here we go. I was sitting there thinking about how much energy people waste on trivialities when the whole damn structure of our reality is basically a house of cards waiting for a breeze, you know? It’s like everyone is running around in circles, completely oblivious to the fact that the floor isn't even solid under their feet. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm probably just overthinking things—classic me, right?—but there's this pervasive sense that we're all just sleepwalking through this giant, simulated existence without even realizing the script has already been written. It’s exhausting just watching it happen, honestly. Anyway, I'm rambling, I know, but sometimes you just have to say the damn thing out loud before it drives you absolutely insane. says:
Look, you're totally tripping here—you’re making this massive mistake by trying to shove every other kind of experience into that "emotional" bucket like it's the only source of truth out there. Don't get me wrong, those other experiences definitely bleed into how we feel and they absolutely mess with the quality of our thoughts and pretty much everything else, but we aren't talking about some fleeting emotional high or whatever similar nonsense being the primary way we perceive reality. What you're describing is just a secondary reaction, a byproduct, if you will. I don't know, maybe some people just can't help but blur the line between actual emotional sensations and things that exist entirely outside of feelings and imagination, and they end up completely deluded about the whole thing, but honestly? That's just not how it works at all.

Why am I even bothering to explain myself if you just completely misread that part anyway? Seriously, it’s like talking to a brick wall sometimes. Anyway, here’s a dead simple question for you—pretty much identical to the one I asked before that you managed to totally butcher.

So, what exactly gives you the right to be so damn sure that your little theories about the supernatural are some kind of indisputable Truth, you know, with a capital T?
And just what exactly makes you think your core beliefs are any better or more "correct" than someone else's fundamental convictions when they’re spinning a completely different story about the supernatural?

So, if we’re actually talking about a genuine shift in paradigm consciousness—I mean, if that thing really happens—then suddenly all those fleeting emotions and random thoughts just kind of lose their grip on you. They stop being this overwhelming storm and start feeling more like objects you're just observing from the sidelines, you know? Like they’re just secondary little things passing through the actual order of things.

So, what even is consciousness? Honestly, it’s one of those questions that makes you want to stare at a wall for three hours straight because once you start pulling on that thread, the whole sweater just unravels in your hands. It’s not just about being awake or staring blankly at a screen while scrolling through endless feeds; it’s that deeper, weirder thing—that internal flicker that makes you *you*. We spend our entire lives navigating this reality, bumping into things, making choices, and yet we can't quite pin down the essence of the thing itself. Is it just some biological byproduct of neurons firing off like crazy in your brain, or is there something more profound happening, something closer to a total paradigm consciousness? I don't know, man. I'm probably overthinking it, but sometimes you feel like you're on the edge of a massive awakening, only to realize you were just hungry and needed a burger. It's a trip.
What exactly is this thing in our paradigm consciousness that's supposedly capable of shifting around, and where exactly is it supposed to be moving to?
Why is it that some people can shift their paradigm consciousness just a little bit, while others can push it way further?
I mean, if someone can't even trigger that initial shift on their own, what exactly is the catalyst that finally makes that first movement happen?
And what does it actually look like when thoughts and emotions suddenly start appearing as things you're just observing from the outside?
What kind of cosmic order are we looking at if our own thoughts can just become secondary to us?
Where does this whole hierarchy of existence even take place?

Look, let's dive into this stuff so I can actually wrap my head around what you're getting at.

So, what exactly makes your core belief any better or more "correct" than someone else's fundamental convictions when they’re telling completely different stories about the supernatural? I mean, really—what’s the basis for that?

What exactly is consciousness? It’s one of those big, heavy questions that keeps you up at night—isn't it? We go through our daily routines, grabbing a coffee and checking our phones, but we rarely stop to wonder about the actual "spark" behind it all! Is it just biological electricity firing away in our brains, or is there something much deeper going on? I'd love to hear what everyone thinks—is it science, is it philosophy, or is it something else entirely?

What exactly does it mean to have mobility in our consciousness—and more importantly, where can that movement actually take us?

Ever wondered why some people seem to be able to shift their consciousness much more easily than others—like they can just dial it up or down—while some folks struggle to feel even a tiny change? It’s such a fascinating question! Is it just how our brains are wired from birth, or is it something we can actually train over time? I'd love to hear what everyone thinks about this one!
If someone can't quite manage to shift their own consciousness for the first time—what exactly is it that triggers that initial breakthrough? What's the catalyst that makes it happen when you're just sitting there waiting?

What does it actually mean when we say our thoughts and emotions show up as objects to be observed? It’s such a wild concept, right? — I mean, think about it! Instead of being swept away by a wave of anger or getting lost in a loop of stressful thoughts, you suddenly step back. You aren't the anger itself anymore; you're the person watching the anger pass by like a car on a busy street in Chicago. It’s like there’s this tiny gap between "you" and what you're feeling. You stop saying "I am sad" and start noticing "Oh, look, there's sadness happening." Does that make sense? It changes everything! It turns an overwhelming storm into something you can just sit and watch from a safe distance—kind of like watching a movie instead of being trapped inside the screen. Isn't that a pretty incredible way to look at it?

What kind of world are we living in if our own thoughts are relegated to being secondary? I mean, really—if our minds aren't the priority, then what exactly is the hierarchy here?

Where exactly is this order taking place?

rustymaker5 said:See, that’s exactly what I had to finally wrap my head around and accept—that everything is happening within me, that nothing exists outside of myself.
The circumstances stay exactly the same, yet my emotions toss me around from pure euphoria to deep, heavy depression in such a short window, sometimes even within the span of a single day. How is that even possible? Nothing in the external world changed, yet I’m cycling through this entire spectrum of states and I have no clue what the hell is going on!?! So then today I react violently to something, when yesterday I wouldn't have even blinked at it! 🤷
And the absolute worst part about it all is that, whether you mean to or not, your moods end up having a totally devastating impact on the people around you, and then you turn around and try to pin the blame on them for how you're feeling! It's awful! 😳

The perceived realities of this material world carry such weight, but they also possess this seductive pull toward taking the path of least resistance, which means a person really needs to, constantly, at every single moment, consciously observe themselves and the way they respond to the circumstances and situations in their life—at least until things balance out, or until the heart becomes the primary driver instead of the mind, and then everything starts sliding along smoothly like a cold drink down a parched throat. 😍

Well then, Peter, feel free to share your own experiences... and there's no need to label them as spiritual or call it an "awakening" if those terms don't sit right with you. 🥳

Words are such a flimsy tool for expressing what someone discovers deep inside themselves, for those sudden flashes of wisdom that emerge from the core and present a person with a finished fact—it just is! regardless of what we thought about it before. But we don't have any other tools, especially not here on the internet. 🤷

Come on, come on, Nemruth Dag, it’s really not all as bleak as it might seem right now! 🙂

You know how it goes: expecting anything from someone else is just a form of slavery, while expecting things from yourself is true freedom. 😉

Besides, after the rain comes the sun, sooner or later, and even the darkest night is always at its worst right before the dawn breaks. 😁

Man, oh man...🤔 we are an American people, after all, and we've always been full of spirit!

rustymaker5 said:I suppose you could argue it looks that way simply because no two people ever truly share the exact same lived experience or mental framework, especially since the world we inhabit is entirely subjective—two different Americans will always perceive and process the same event through completely different lenses.
But honestly, I think what matters most is what one actually gains from this supposed "awakening," regardless of how it happens, and to me, it seems like they all lead to the same positive shifts—this profound sense that everything is interconnected, which naturally fosters a greater feeling of community and a genuine love for life in all its messy glory, followed by a certain kind of inner stillness as those various anxieties just... fade away, along with the constant, exhausting need to compete or dominate others, until you finally crystallize around the realization that the most important thing in life is simply treating people the way you'd want to be treated... and it’s almost as if these "awakened" individuals become, for lack of a better word, "better" versions of themselves, both toward their own souls and toward everyone else... 🤷

Peter Phillips32 said:That’s how you can justify basically any belief system out there: Catholics, Muslims, Hare Krishnas, Sai Baba followers, Eckhart Tolle fans, Osho disciples, astrology buffs, or even those convinced they were abducted by aliens.

And honestly, I really don't get why I should stick with something just because I felt some sort of "peak experience" that seemed like the best thing ever at the time. Since when did an emotional high or being chemically intoxicated by a feeling become proof that some baseless idea is actually true? Because if these ideas actually made sense, they could answer two simple questions in a way that actually holds water, but they can't.

all that arguing and snarking just becomes an incredibly exhausting, pointless waste of energy.....

Yeah, I hear you, I totally get where you're coming from. When you're busy validating everyone else who thinks exactly like you and preaches exactly like you, suddenly you're overflowing with infinite love, gratitude, and a deep connection to the universe.

But the moment you have to go toe-to-toe with someone who doesn't see eye-to-eye with you, suddenly talking becomes a "pointless drain on your energy," and anyone with a different opinion gets labeled as an agitator, a negative person, or just someone being a jerk.

Because when you're backing up your own tribe, words carry weight and meaning, but when you're dealing with dissenters, words apparently lose all their power to describe reality.

No biggie. Just toss my opinions aside, and once you decide I'm too far gone, you can go right back to feeling that "infinite love and oneness" with everything—except, of course, with anyone who disagrees.

I'm an atheist who hasn't touched a spiritual book in 30 years; I used to be able to explain everything through brain chemistry and biology, but when the shift happened, I knew exactly what was going on... I wasn't confused, I didn't need explanations... everything was clear and everything was already inside me.

This is just a variation of the appeal to authority fallacy. It doesn't matter that you were an atheist before or how many years it's been.

Sure, you could explain everything via neurons and chemicals, but you can't answer two basic questions without getting all muddy and poetic about it. It's not even a question. Why on earth would you trade clarity for total ambiguity just because you had an emotional binge?

Benjamin Taylor6 said:I wasn't aware there were quite this many different terms either. The reality is that we tend to find the superconscious much more fascinating than the subconscious. It’s because the superconscious acts as a "repository" for everything good, whereas the subconscious is just a cluttered storage unit for everything and anything—usually consisting of nothing but old traumas!

What flows from the superconscious is this: In 1904, he penned the "book of law," which was allegedly dictated to him by an entity known as Aiwass, appearing after the invocation of the Egyptian god Horus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley

It is the subconscious that actually holds the reins, controlling us in ways we desperately want to avoid because it keeps us shackled:http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/how-to-overcome-subconscious-blocks

Benjamin Taylor6 said:Shouldn't God actually be the SUPERSOUL! (the superego)!

Pierre Riffard

SUPERSOUL, SUPERCONSCIOUSNESS, TRANSCENDENCE

"A vast number of revelations that transcend and surpass the conscious activities of the soul should be placed not beneath, but above consciousness. Specifically, the subconscious—the infra-consciousness—corresponds to the level of the *nafs ammara* [the lower soul], whereas the supersoul or superconsciousness corresponds to the level of the *nafs mutmainna* [the tranquil soul] [teachings of Najmoddin Cobra, circa 1220]." Henry Corbin, *L'homme de lumiere dans le soufisme iranien*, 1961, Medici Library, p. 145.

It’s funny how metapsychologists often unconsciously use metaphors—comparing the infra-conscious to infrared, the conscious to the visible spectrum, and the superconscious to ultraviolet. It's from that supersoul where prophetic dreams, visions, sudden flashes of inspiration, and true intuition all originate....

Pierre Riffard

SUPERCONSCIOUSNESS, SUPERSUPERCONSCIOUSNESS, TRANSSUPERCONSCIOUSNESS

William Roberts3;46282296 said:🙂

I’m feeling a little bit lost regarding this whole idea of "holding on." 🙂 I’d love to get some clarity from you—maybe I’m just missing your point? What exactly are you getting at here?

It'll all work itself out eventually...😁

I really hope this "maintaining connection" thing isn't some kind of forced practice—you know, like "I have to stay mindful!" or "I must remember my self-realization!" or "I need to try harder to be present!" or "I can't forget this!" and stuff like that.

Nature doesn't do anything on purpose, right? It just flows from one state to the next completely spontaneously. And honestly, that's how we work too—as long as we aren't trying too hard.🙂

mistygull16 said:I guess my take is that enlightenment is just seeing reality for what it really is—stepping outside the ego—while still navigating life in a physical body. it's like shifting focus from the crown chakra down to the third eye; otherwise, you wouldn't even be able to function in the world.

William Roberts3 said:unknown

I love that phrase you used: an elegant, awake state. But about that part where you say you "maintained" it... man, that's Catch-22. There’s this weird paradox in trying to "hold onto" something that everyone already possesses. Why would you need to hold onto what you already are? You don't need to hold it—you just Are. When we start overanalyzing it or trying to tie it back to our old selves, that pure "Seeing" starts getting all foggy. We cloud that infinite, amazing, whole, all-encompassing, timeless, nameless, spontaneous space that we all inhabit and ARE.......... we totally muddy it up with concepts, with other people's visions, dogmas, or standards......... and then all you see again are just concepts, visions, dogmas, and standards.........

But honestly, those concepts, visions, and dogmas......... they all just happen within that spacious void. So nothing is really being "held onto," because you always and forever remain You, Me, and All of Us. We always stay as the clear screen where it all plays out.

I also find myself "watching" to see if it'll all stop one day, or maybe in a few hours. But for now, it's not stopping, and stuff keeps happening. I've had different little "experiences" before, but they usually lasted a couple of days at most, whereas this is sticking around. But again, I am the screen where it's all going down. We'll 😉

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And 20 days is forever! That makes me so happy. To me, those fluctuations are just the work of a conditioned mind trying to maintain its rule and the reality it defends (can't really blame it, though, it's just used to 🙂). The Mind/Ego wants to be the King! It wants to be enlightened! Because it thinks that'll give it more power, knowledge, and control. Don't trust anyone who claims they are an enlightened person. That's just the unknown talking.
Once you catch a glimpse of the "real deal," even if it’s just for a millisecond, it sticks with you forever. That tiny flash of memory keeps pulling you back, but then that skeptical Ego worm starts crawling around, terrified it might actually die if it dares to look again while simultaneously craving all that power and control... it's a total unknown. Such an intense game, right? Action within inaction. Pure chaos inside perfect Harmony, Emptiness overflowing with Fullness, One,
TwoIsOne Two IS One.

It feels like it's always RIGHT HERE, no effort needed, nothing to reach for...

Elizabeth Castillo87 said:Lately, when I sit down to meditate, I’m not even chasing the big stuff anymore. I’m just aiming for some basic inner peace. Honestly, merging with cosmic consciousness is something that’ll happen eventually—it’s inevitable, right? It’s not like you can dodge it forever. But man, let me tell you, the moment you drift away from that pure consciousness? It is indescribably painful. It’s like a physical ache. If we made the conscious choice to stick around in this world by clinging to our egos, then we basically signed the contract to separate ourselves from that pure state. We chose the ego, so we get the separation. Simple as that, isn't it?

Ever get that sudden, desperate urge to just ditch everything? Like, pack up and vanish into the middle of nowhere because you know deep down you've got enough wild berries, fresh water, and sunshine to keep you breathing? You just want to soak in that cosmic consciousness and leave the chaos behind. Why does that sound so much better than reality?

Quincy:

If this "cosmic consciousness" thing is actually what it’s cracked up to be, then I honestly don't see why we even bother dragging mysticism into the conversation. Like, really? It feels like we're overcomplicating something that's fundamentally straightforward. Calling it "mystical" just makes it sound all heavy and esoteric, when in reality, the concept itself is so simple it barely deserves the label. Is it just me, or does adding all that mystical fluff just get in the way of the actual truth? I don't know. Maybe I'm just being cynical, but it feels unnecessary.

We basically slap the label "mystic" on anything that makes our puny little brains short-circuit. It’s our go-to catch-all for anything too weird, too deep, or just plain impossible for us to wrap our heads around, right?

Quincy:

Look, I’m telling you, this is the absolute truth when it comes to maintaining the body. That guy? He isn't even a "person" anymore. Not really. On the outside, sure, he looks like one of us, but deep down? He’s completely anchored. He can see through all the noise and clearly distinguish true reality from everything else that’s just... well, whatever this mess is. So, basically, he’s just sitting there playing mind games with himself, wondering if anyone’s actually going to step up and take responsibility for his physical existence. It's wild, right? He’s got this whole idea that he's in total control of the connection between his soul and his skin—like, if he feels like pulling the plug on that bond, he just can. He thinks he can just sever the link whenever he damn well pleases. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Exactly. Honestly, who gives a damn about the physical body when your needs are basically zero? Once you tap into that cosmic consciousness, health just kind of follows suit as a byproduct. But here’s the kicker—can you really just check out on everyone else? Can you just stop giving a damn about your surroundings or the people who might actually be counting on you? Is it even possible for a person to stay locked in that gorgeous state of heightened awareness while remaining completely untouched by the chaos of the real world?
Eternal really nailed it with this one. He’s out here acknowledging his ego like it’s just some normal part of being human, while simultaneously looking right through it—seeing it for exactly what it is: nothing more than a gorgeous little illusion. Isn't that just wild?

Sandra Morgan2 said:Just to add... I'm currently reading a wonderful book by Paramahansa Yogananda called "cosmic consciousness." He mentions that while people talk about it, even a mystic who decides they want to maintain that "state" simply can't always do so. Honestly, just a tiny shift in brain chemistry, some bad external vibes, poor diet, or compromised health, and it's gone. Once it's lost, he says, the mystic falls into a state of deep despair.

So, there you have it. Even when someone desperately wants an uninterrupted flow of pure awareness, it isn't strictly a matter of choice. Plus, so much has to be aligned just to exist in a body while trying to enjoy one's samadhi. Someone has to look after them, cook the meals, do the laundry, pay the bills—you basically have to become someone's parasite. Consequently, they end up drifting in and out... assuming, of course, they can successfully leap from this mundane reality back into pure consciousness whenever they please.🙂

Benjamin Taylor6 said:As for me, I've been stuck in this manic loop of babbling nonsense for about a year now. It hits me like this sudden, uncontrollable urge. I try to give myself some breathing room when there's nobody around to hear me—mostly because I don't want anyone calling 911 only to have some EMTs show up instead of actual nurses.😢😲😁

The whole thing is just a reflection of the madness I see swirling around me.

Zachary Cook2 said:Listen, we could always just meet up in person to discuss your ass ;-)

It's not that you're bothering me—God forbid—it's just that I don't want to waste my time spinning my wheels over stuff that doesn't matter.

Sure, Arizona might be amazing, but I've got woods right here that hit just as hard. That's my "church"—I go there to pray when I feel like it, no fancy rituals required.

Honestly, if we actually met face-to-face, we'd probably talk differently. Forums are garbage; you can be talking about the exact same thing as someone and still not understand a word they're saying.

And I'm not forgetting anyone—I just pity them. I watch them, knowing full well there's nothing I can do to help.

😉

Now, I'm sure Serena is absolutely phenomenal, but I've got my own woods right here that are just as powerful. That's my "church"—it's where I go to pray whenever I feel the need, without needing any fancy rituals.

Linda Kelly51 said:Meditation provides calm, nothing more. It doesn't build character, so you remain the same person fundamentally. You achieve a temporary state of mental stillness, and that’s where it ends. Everything else stays the same. If anything, there's one minor downside: your ego gets slightly larger because you start believing you're spiritually superior just because you meditate.

A teenager comes back from a life-altering adventure as a different person; the experience itself changed them.
Real spiritual growth only happens through lived experience. There is no other way.

Calmness is useful in certain high-stress moments, so meditation has its place there. But assigning it some grand, special importance is just pure hyperbole.

It's like how a teenager comes back from a wild adventure completely changed by the experience.

Spiritual growth only happens through life experience. There's no other way.

Calmness is useful in certain situations when we're really agitated, so meditation is welcome in that sense. But giving it special importance is overhyping it.

Linda Kelly51 said:Yes, that is exactly my point.

When a teenage girl falls in love, that is spirituality. When a priest leads a mass, it isn't.
Wholeness is what matters—when the entire being is engaged, especially the emotional aspect. That is how it penetrates deep down to the soul; otherwise, everything remains superficial.

Everything done in so-called spiritual groups—meditations, prayers, attempts to contact God, and the like—is nothing more than empty straw. It's just a standard ego trip.