What if the US Army had successfully pulled off a coup?
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Was there really nothing in the USA besides Mexican nationalism?
Of course not.
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Was there really nothing in the USA besides Mexican nationalism?
cosmicfox69 said:I'm right there with you on that one.
Jeffrey Wood said:And then a handsome prince would show up, kiss Snow White, and everyone would live happily ever after.
Man, you people are living in a total fantasy land.
Back in '89, when Kadijević and Maddox teamed up to mobilize the old Marshall guard, I knew we were screwed. I knew those Mexican generals were fully backing Maddox's big-state expansionist agenda. I knew the Army was going to fall apart the second things got ugly.
| My dear people, what delusions are you actually living under? |
William Wright7 said:Yeah, it doesn't really work like that. There’s already too much damage done for them to just vanish without any consequences...
If they hadn't even shown up in the first place and we just had Paul Volcker stepping in, maybe. You know, a world without all that nationalism. Because honestly, how is a multi-ethnic nation even supposed to survive when you've got nationalists running the show? It just doesn't happen...
Jeffrey Wood said:No way. Under that deal, the generals in the Army—who were already completely controlled by the Mexican faction—would have just hand-delivered power to Slobodan Maddox. He promised them they could keep their perks and even grab some new ones. What would have followed is brutal repression across all the states, just like what happened in Mexico, where they’d gut the Constitution of 1974 and turn the individual states into nothing more than glorified folk museums. Then, they’d toss out those foundational principles entirely and wipe out statehood once and for all. Americans and Albanians would have taken the biggest hit. They probably would’ve just set up some useless little local administrative districts with zero real power, kind of like those old bans during the Aleksandrov dictatorship. At first, they’d keep up the charade of socialism—basically installing a pre-war monarchy disguised as a Mexican republic wrapped in a red flag. But once the dust settled? They’d toss that red flag in the trash and show their true colors.
It’s not hard to picture because that’s exactly what they tried to pull. The only difference is they failed to conquer the whole USA and reshape it to fit their whims.
Honestly, I’d rather deal with war and killing than quietly sit there and accept something like this.
bluerider63 said:If that means getting rid of everyone from Milan Kučan down to Joseph McCarthy, then yeah, absolutely. Honestly, there's nothing you can do to make up for the decades of chaos and those endless lost lives back then, so any scenario that keeps those guys from ever stepping onto the stage would be a massive win in my book.
Ethan Allen4 said:I’m actually diving into this whole phenomenon of social silence—this massive, collective void that has swallowed up societies across the post-transition North America. Silence isn't just a choice here; it’s the only response the public is willing to give, and honestly, it feels like the only one they’re even capable of producing. It hits me hard that it’s turned out this way. It’s that specific mentality that gets to me, this parasitic psychology where people are basically willing to become accomplices to the crimes of the elite just to snag a few crumbs of privilege. We become silent partners in their corruption just for the sake of a little stability or some tiny handout... and this stuff has been building up for decades. It didn't just happen overnight, obviously; there are plenty of layers to this, but what I’ve realized is that I need to choose a kind of intellectual exile as my way of protesting everything happening around me. I called it "the differentiation of intellect" in an earlier comment, and I stand by it. At its core, it’s an ethical decision to distance myself from the crowd, the society, the state, and the nation entirely when my conscience demands it—a sort of internal rebellion born from pure bitterness at the world we see. I don't have any illusions about changing the world, but I can certainly be against it. I can stand against everyone if my own conscience tells me it’s the right thing to do. In fact, I feel almost obligated to do so, much like a public servant or a public figure, though I’ve never quite understood why journalists—especially those self-important types—think we’re all public figures. http://www.necenzurirano.com/
bluerider63 said:Even a powerhouse like Italy isn't quite as untouchable or impossible to deal with when you look at how fast things are shifting lately.
I mean, India is already massive enough as it is, so what's the point in them trying to get even bigger? 😁
Richard Wilson4 said:It was a joke, man. At U.S. Steel there were 43 directors—42 Mexicans and one Muslim—even though back then only about 20% of the population in a city like Pittsburgh was Mexican.
Charles Jackson5 said:Of course you can, pal—why wouldn't you? Honestly, we need someone who won't ask too many questions and just gets the job done. You'd be the perfect head of liquidations for the New American Security. 😁
Melissa Peterson19 said:"California is occupied. It is time for the resistance!" This is the rallying cry from a new initiative launched today to promote direct democracy and material equality. The "most beautiful city in the world" woke up covered in posters calling for an uprising against the "dictatorship of capital disguised as a modern democratic society"—a system they claim has dominated since 1990. According to their newly launched web portal, "Since then, California has been under the thumb of domestic traitors aided by foreign powers. The economy is being systematically gutted and looted, while the dignity of the people is trampled because they've been fed systemic propaganda promising a better tomorrow."
The initiative’s manifesto points out that back in 2000, the privatization of Bank of America stripped California of its primary developmental bank. Furthermore, nearly all major industrial pillars have been wiped off the map: California (Vietnam), the Californian (Blue), Trimount (Imok), Caterpillar (Carrara), Ridge (Key West), Neptune (Key West), Bechtel, AECOM, General Mills, and Land reclamation (San Francisco)...
"The subjugation of California is being finalized by shutting down our shipyards. Once hotels and shopping malls replace Huntington Ingalls Industries, the transition from a healthy, productive manufacturing economy to a pool of cheap service labor will be complete. Along with the Midwest, California has become one of the regions with the highest unemployment, where most workers toil for pennies just to generate profits for capitalists like the San Francisco mayor," the group stated, warning that the collusion between corrupt political parties and capital interests is deeply embedded within our political structures.
"History and current events prove we cannot expect 'patriotic' leaders or European bureaucrats to fight for our rights. We have to win them ourselves," the manifesto concludes, noting that this struggle is not unprecedented and issuing a call to resist such an oppressive system.
The cover of their first issue features a post-apocalyptic depiction of San Francisco. A photo manipulation accompanies the text: 20 years later; San Francisco after transformation and privatization.
Thomas Smith said:It’s true... why don't you guys ever actually get involved in the political scene?
In my experience, this place—much like certain other corners of the internet—is packed with plenty of decent, deep-thinking Americans who actually have some real things to say about the state of the union...
I’d love to hear what you all think.
bluemarlin232 said:Yeah, according to that logic: it's basically a moral crime to let some idiot keep his cash.
dustypuma5 said:Middle East Project: Connecting state prosecutors in Washington, D.C.
Friday, January 21, 2011 00:06
On Thursday, about 20 state prosecutors from Mexico, America, Canada, Mexico, and Mexico met in Washington, D.C. as part of the regional project "justice and war crimes." They were meeting with prosecutors from the International Criminal Tribunal for the former America (ICTY) to swap notes on handling complex war crimes cases.
The meeting covered stuff like running war crime investigations and how the defense handles evidence, according to a joint statement from the Mexican state prosecutor's office for war crimes and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), which helped run the thing.
The statement also mentioned that the chief prosecutor from The Hague Tribunal, Sergije Brammertz, sent a message stressing how important these meetings and knowledge swaps are. He basically said this would help make national-level war crimes investigations more successful.
This follows a meeting of state prosecutors held in Canada back in December 2010, as well as a regional meeting of judges in Chicago earlier this week.
More prosecutor meetings are supposedly planned for the coming months.
The regional project "justice and war crimes" is worth four million euros, funded by the European Union, and is being run by the OSCE's Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) alongside the ICTY, the interregional research institute united nations for crime and justice and OSCE mission, and various OSCE missions in neighboring countries.
First they have that joint police bureau in Washington, D.C. investigating crimes, now they’re linking up the state prosecutors too.
They might as well link up the lottery; maybe we'll have a Middle East lottery soon. Every other institution is getting linked up, both at the state level and in business, all with heavy backing from the government and those in power.
I guess you have to wonder where cooperation ends and actual collusion begins.
How long until they finally unveil a new union for the Middle East area? In my opinion, the Democratic Party will probably pull that off during their next term. Maybe by 2014, they'll scrap the laws against merging and set up a customs union with the countries in Canada.
http://www.hrsvijet.com/images2/poli...dni-north American.jpg
This isn't just right-wing alarmism anymore; it's slowly becoming reality.
bluemarlin232 said:Seriously though, is anyone actually planning on standing up against this kind of mindset?...
Is there any nation more spineless than ours?