Posts by Joseph Bailey41

Jessica Howard6 said:I’m familiar with all three, obviously. I just keep procrastinating on meditation—probably some irrational idea stuck in my head that it doesn't actually work. The whole concept of diving inward to quiet the mind? It feels like I've just become trapped inside myself. I've lost any sense of objectivity; I can't tell who I am anymore, what my actual problem is, or where things went sideways. But I know it's not "nothing," because if everything were fine, I wouldn't have been stuck in this loop for years. I wouldn't keep landing myself in life situations that I have zero capacity, zero willpower, or zero emotional energy to handle. Nothing.

EFT is great once you actually identify the specific broken belief you're targeting (correct me if I'm wrong), but that's the catch. For me, it's less about one belief and more like living under a massive, heavy cloud of garbage. It's become so much my default state that I look at people shouting about "finding the silver lining" and think they've completely lost their minds.

My apologies for the rant... I just don't even know where to start.

How exactly does it feel? Tired, sad, unmotivated... is it all of those, or none of them? Try to put words to your emotions or even the physical sensations that come with them (nausea, tremors, a knot in your stomach, etc.). Whatever comes to mind first, try working on that with EFT using the phrase "even though I feel [xy], I love and accept myself" (tapping the side of the hand) and then use the specific [xy] for the other points. After a round or two, a new thought or issue should surface. (If you usually do it differently, let us know exactly how you work through it, maybe share a link or something).

Techniques like that, or things like Quantum Entrainment or EMDR, are wonderful for processing immediate emotions and traumatic memories. However, when it comes to identifying those repetitive patterns that keep playing out in your life, that's where psychotherapy or talking to a counselor really comes in. Meditation helps "quiet the mind," essentially giving you a little breathing room from negative thoughts, and Quantum Entrainment works on a similar principle.

Since I don't know you personally, I can't pinpoint your exact issue or tell you which approach would fit best... you'll need to experiment a bit, explore, and see what resonates and what doesn't. For some people, even listening to certain things on YouTube helps (binaural beats, alpha waves, 432 Hz music, Tibetan singing bowls, etc.).

Peter Murphy6 said:Nah, it doesn't "become" anything—you just choose to see it that way. It makes it feel less personal, right?
It's a great little shield—gives you the perfect excuse to talk trash without feeling guilty about who you're hurting.
Besides, people are one thing in real life and totally different online.

Yeah, I write the truth about myself because I'm writing for *me*.
(Thanks for the "helpful" advice you didn't even try to give sincerely, but damn, apparently I'm just some bot playing games, like every other person on the internet)

Do whatever—izbrisati it, share it, I don't give a damn, Joseph Bailey41. You finally got your moment and did what you wanted, I guess.

Anyway, enough off-topic stuff—you could've just sent a DM instead of putting on a show for an audience... but then it wouldn't have felt as "powerful," would it?

Have you ever actually worried about hurting someone else? Why should I be worried about you? Are you some kind of special indigo old-soul starseed unicorn who deserves extra attention?

Peter Murphy6 said:This isn't just stuff—it's my whole life.

Once things land in my inbox or show up in public, they become content. If you're naive enough to think that sharing your "truth" makes everyone else equally transparent, you're mistaken. And don't worry, I don't go around broadcasting private messages; I've never been that kind of person. They've been izbrisati, just like you've been izbrisati from my life.

Go find some other fool to play your games with.

Peter Murphy6 said:Don't sweat it—in your case, I won't be making that mistake again.

Please don't. What you wrote about my TV show clone is actually much better reading. You have a real talent; don't let it go to waste. Just write about yourself, for yourself. With a solid editor, this could really take off and might even help someone going through similar struggles. And look, you aren't an indigo, a starseed, an old soul, or some unicorn from >. You just have your own unique perspective.

Peter Murphy6 said:Sorry wearyrider16, I just realized how much reading someone else's map is basically just manipulating them.

I wanted to reach out and say nothing but nice things, but then it hit me—that’s just manipulation too.
I wanted to just tell it like it is, but even that "truth" is just my own perspective—which is still a form of manipulation.

I guess I’m not arrogant enough anymore—or maybe just not shallow enough—to try and read your entire universe.
Honestly, I don't even know how to "help" people anymore; every little move I make feels like a potential landmine.

It's not that I forgot, I just... hoped you had.

Have you ever considered just stopping all this "helping"? Honestly, your long lectures have completely thrown me off—I actually got a little spooked thinking your next post might come from some sketchy neighborhood in West Philly, like what happened to that other user before you. You saw all sorts of things in me, but she just ended up spiraling into her own drama. Maybe take a break from everyone else's problems and focus on yourself for a bit. You really need it.

wearyrider16 said:Verd, it would be awesome if you could send over that star map you mentioned in my DMs. I think you might have forgotten about it, whether you meant to or not.

You mentioned you do it as a hobby, so I sent over my birth date and location, but I haven't heard back yet.

I'm honestly pretty curious to see what the stars say about me—like, who's really pulling the strings here?

Hope you're one of the real deal messengers. 🙂

Did you get a message in your inbox too? 🤦

wearyrider16 said:Yeah, true.
I remember back in a psych class at my medical school, the professor gave us this assignment to write down how we’d handle an agitated patient as healthcare workers. She singled me out because I said I’d actually swap places with him—I was only 17 at the time—and she told me there was something wrong with me.
She just sticks to her rigid little templates and uses them to label students in her psych lectures.
It's awful.
She wants us to participate, but then judges us the second we do.
Enough for smart people.

There was another time when we were studying psychoanalysis (Freud believed patients wouldn't be driven to maladaptive behaviors once they understood their unconscious motives, and that the patient, guided by the therapist, had to reach the core of their own issues themselves)... I actually loved that subject and stayed active in class. I mentioned that a patient doesn't necessarily have to be strictly led by a psychologist, since those methods lack a spiritual dimension and need more interdisciplinary input. She shot me down, saying transpersonal stuff isn't for everyone and that energy psychology would never see the light of day—which, looking back from 2018, turned out to be totally wrong. It just shows the system is deeply flawed; it's neither transparent nor truly capable of handling the field it claims to teach. It's a total waste.

Also, Freud’s main goals for psychoanalytic treatment—intellectual and emotional insight into primary causes, exploring those implications, and strengthening control over the id and superego—just don't hold up. The superego isn't some fixed structure; it's fluid and varies from person to person. You can't really reshape it if it wasn't formed during childhood. And the ego, acting as a conscious level of psychodynamic defense, often ends up enslaving its own host, which defeats the whole purpose.

So, don't be surprised if I seem maladjusted. I don't feel like I fit in anywhere and I feel lost in their world when the very people meant to teach you the truth end up teaching lies, belittling you, dulling your mind, and forcing you into scientific models designed by some bureaucrats at the top of the educational food chain.

God forbid you call that actual education.
Anyone who feels maladjusted to that kind of chaos is actually perfectly normal. They just aren't built for most social organizations, mostly because those groups have already brainwashed most people.

From what I've gathered about you, you seem incredibly sensitive and empathetic. Dealing with those harsher, more clinical versions of psychology just isn't your lane. If energy psychology helps you, then go for it—explore it, practice it, and pay attention to the positive shifts it brings. Ignore the outside noise, the brainwashed opinions, and all that nonsense. Focus on yourself first; once you find your footing, you'll be in a better position to help others, whether they're "indigo" or not. Let the world change at its own pace.

Look, this might work for diagnosis. But if you’re stuck dealing with an issue and nothing traditional seems to fix it, there’s really no harm in exploring something like this. Honestly, just realizing there are other people out there going through the exact same thing—knowing it isn't some freakish pathology—can be incredibly comforting and grounding. As for that whole database of aura colors? To me, it doesn't hold any more or less weight than any of the other spiritual ideas we talk about on here.

mistyscout2 said:Honestly, I felt a little awkward even clicking on those links in the first place, so I didn't.

You really don't know how to have a good time, do you? 🙂:

Just imagine if I had mentioned the crystal and rainbow children. 🤣

'Indigo adults.' Just Google it.

Psychotherapy, meditation, EFT... there are as many techniques out there as you can count.

Lisa Jackson7 said:I didn't see any kind of dilemma from DeVinci—not based on anything he’s posted in this thread.

Never heard of Meher Baba before, but I get where he's coming from regarding all those rituals—though honestly, I think you just need to find a balance... especially in this sense.

Religion without Spirituality | Spirituality without Religion Quote : if The essence of spirituality is The search to know Our true selves , then know that its a Life Long process , and perhaps IT requires many births and rebirths ( only god completely knows The true mystery of Our Soul and its evolutionary process of merging with Truth -> Religion without Spirituality | Spirituality without Religion Quote

If the essence of spirituality is the search to know Our true selves, then know that its a Life Long process, and perhaps IT requires many births and rebirths (only God completely knows The true mystery of Our Soul and its evolutionary process of merging with Truth -> Religion without Spirituality | Spirituality without Religion Quote Cut the act—you don't need to play-act some super deep, "enlightened" persona just because you're chasing personal nirvana. That’s just straight-up narcissism. You can't force meditation any more than you can force yourself to reach actual spirituality—it just doesn't work like that. Honestly, all you really need is just to stay awake to life—and more importantly, to actually be aware of who you are.

So, what’s the move after this? Simple—it's time to serve.

And there it is—the absolute grip religion has on people. Organized religion in all forms and tradition does a very good job aspiring The faithful into that. It sets the stage—gives us the structure and the groundwork we need to actually exist in this world and get to work. It's about being able to serve others. That’s how you actually serve the Creator—by showing up for the people around you.

People call themselves "spiritual" while totally ignoring the person cleaning their house for pennies—just paying next to nothing for actual hard work—only to drop thousands on some fancy trip to visit a random tomb halfway across the world. Or they'll skip helping hungry kids or the homeless right on their own street just to book another flight to join some "spiritual group." Honestly, that's sol nonsense in The Eye of Beloved, who cries at the suffering of humanity and laughs at the joyful heart of humanity.

don't you think gladden The Heart of that extremely poor of The humanity was much more important Than going on sol called spiritual travel ( another escape route for selfish luxury

Honestly, this is one of the best takes I’ve read on this subject. Religion without spirituality is just performing dry, empty rituals—do this, do that, blah blah blah—but then again, spirituality on its own can easily turn into nothing more than an excuse for narcissism.

If you're asking if this affects atheists—it doesn't. They aren't even on the train, so they aren't exactly traveling toward the destination. I mean, it’s not quite right to say they’re "wasting time" because honestly, some of them can be incredible people who actually live by the morals their religions preach. They might end up progressing spiritually—sometimes even faster than those followers who just go through the motions of rituals without any actual substance. In some future life, an ex-atheist will eventually jump on one of the trains.

Look, it’s not about whether someone lacks a purpose—whether they're an atheist, a believer, some guy from Alaska, or just works at State Farm, etc.
That's not how I see it.

You don't have to be religious to jump in and help out a charity or a non-profit; an atheist can be perfectly moral and still grow spiritually... honestly, comparing people on that level is just pointless.

But we aren't just talking about one person's spiritual journey—we're talking about the community. Eventually, the morality of a secular society is going to run dry—kind of like a crew on a spaceship who decides to just live off their emergency reserves, thinking they won't ever need a new source... because they're too arrogant to think they'll actually need it.

It's pretty wild to see Christians linking to Muslim websites that explain why pursuing spirituality without religion can be dangerous. Truly priceless. 😂

Andrew Doyle said:Is this about that Markicke guy—"It’s Not Me, It’s My Right Hand"?

I personally knew a guy who went off to study theology, took a vow of celibacy, and then quite literally had a complete mental breakdown. They sent him to see these specialized "church counselors" to try and help him navigate the crisis, but eventually, he decided to walk away from the ministry entirely. He got married, has three kids now, and seems mentally sound... at least from what I saw the last time I ran into him in downtown Chicago... the man is smiling, enjoying life, and all that.

Then there was another one. This guy decided on celibacy only after he'd already left his mark in several different places. He opted for a total "spiritual overhaul"—whatever that means—diving into Hinduism, Buddhism, shamanism, LSD-ism, "Castanedism"... it kept him occupied for a while, but then he ended up having a few more kids. He still claims to be "enlightened" and happy, just without the whole celibacy thing.

That’s the one who used to post constantly on the forums back in the day (before I handed this useless tool over to the Catholics with a loud "go back to your own kind"). He has this intense martyr vibe and sounds like he’s spitting stones whenever he talks. Like an American version of Jordan Peterson. 😁

I actually knew someone just like that. In the end, he managed to pull himself together, get married, and eventually became one of those high-profile "conservative intellectuals" you see all over the news. As long as you're still breathing, there's always hope. 👍

Alexander Adams94 said:I'm not so sure a white tablecloth that had two liters of beet juice dumped on it will ever look decent again. It's almost as if they were throwing beet juice at each other while wearing white t-shirts. 🤣

Luckily, the mess on the topic was just apricot juice. ☕

Jamie Adams6 said:just please don't delete the good threads—I still haven't gotten over that "crisis of femininity" one. 🙂div>

🤣

Sam Green73 said:We get along just fine.
Honestly, she’s got quite the narcissistic streak, though.

How about you? What's the deal with your mom?

Look... if Stalin could strike a deal with Hitler, I can certainly manage to be on good terms with my mom. But whatever... I just wanted to see if you were a replicant. 😁

Jacob Cooper5 said:Well, I've been around the block enough times to know where the lines are drawn. But sometimes... just sometimes... I cross them just for the hell of it.

And? Is it actually fun? 🍿

Sam Green73 said:No promises here.

So, this past weekend, I found myself feeling this massive wave of aggression toward some guy.
Honestly, I had no idea I even had that kind of intensity in me 🤷
But hey, when you're out there on neutral ground, you never really know how you're going to react 🕺

Mickey Mouse. 🙂

How do you feel about your mother?

Michael Ramirez11 said:Man, you’ve clearly had some kind of awakening and just tore everything down. From what you’re saying, it sounds like you’re going through a "dark night of the soul"—you know, that stage people hit right after they reach enlightenment. An enlightened person usually struggles to deal with most things for a while.

You described reality with perfect lucidity, though I suppose you might have leaned a bit too hard into guilt and negativity. I guess I’m curious about how objectively big of a mess this mistake actually is—like, if someone else you knew did the exact same thing, what would you honestly think of their actions back then?

It’s almost as if, in the absence of ego, you were buried under that bag of ash we all carry on our backs, just uselessly sprinkling it over ourselves. But we carry it, and we sprinkle it, regularly. So, if you could maybe include a few details for illustration—what exactly is it that you messed up so badly? It might help us try to offer some more concrete help.

When that feeling hits me—that regret over something I did or didn't do—I’m lucky enough that a part of me still says, "Who cares? This is my life. Who's actually looking at me?" I find a weird sort of comfort in my own insignificance. It’s such a powerful kind of freedom. If I don't judge myself, then nobody else can really judge me either. People are far too preoccupied with themselves to truly notice me, so they don't even see my stupid mistakes; it's just me seeing them. And I’m not going to throw the first stone, not even if I wanted to. You shouldn't either!

But that thing you mentioned—about when you're building something up, getting too carried away, and then the whole construct just collapses... man, I remember that so vividly. It hurts, more than anything. Well, it hurt more before the "flatline" phase. Now, I’ve reached a point where I appreciate that you can actually rise again, and I even value the fact that something can actually hurt me and make me feel something, since it's been nothing for a long time. So, let it collapse, whatever happens. The construct isn't really the point. Anything is better than a flatline.

Though, I guess it feels like the male psyche might be different, and that maybe you can't quite reach the bottom. When a person is incredibly patient and endures everything, there is no bottom.

So, if you could be just a tiny bit more specific about which behaviors you find unacceptable.
It might help if you found an activity involving kneading clay or touching soil, just to bleed off that negative charge. Maybe working with your hands, like gardening, or even walking barefoot if you have a dirt path nearby or something like that. But definitely something involving earth.

Hey, when you said, "I don't have to believe—I know!"—that is basically my life motto.🙂

The real sting comes from that first collapse, when the reality you thought was solid just dissolves. After that, you start building the next version just so you can get through the day. When that one eventually breaks, there isn't that same sense of lost, disoriented despair—just a bit of regular frustration. By then, you're approaching the next thing with a bit of an ironic distance, viewing it as a temporary setup. It lasts as long as it lasts.

The issue isn't really about ego; it's about becoming pathologically attached to it. And in the end, everything passes.