Since the forum mods seem to be sticking to the age-old tradition of ignoring problems in the hopes they'll just vanish into thin air, I’m going to go ahead and ask these questions again:
How much longer is this same old crew going to be allowed to hijack threads with trolls from the opposite side of the political spectrum—just because they can't actually win an argument?
And seriously, when are we going to stop seeing clones of banned users riding all over the politics section?
Look, I’m a little confused here—the resident moral guardians seemed pretty worked up because, in the middle of an election cycle, I happen to be taking shots at their precious little party...
To be clear, when I was calling out the Republican Party as a reactionary outfit, I wasn't actually insulting anyone I was talking to—I wasn't throwing epithets around. My stance was based purely on the facts—specifically their coalition with Mexicans at both the state and local levels—not to mention the way they've been sucking up to Vučić over the last few days...
But honestly, setting all that aside, it was actually pretty hilarious watching the individual in question flip-flop the second I pointed out the fact that calling the Democratic Party kmer or communists doesn't actually bother him one bit...
Anyway, let’s get down to brass tacks...
1. How much longer is this site going to allow clone accounts of users who were permanently banned? People who are literally using the exact same handles and personas that got them kicked off in the first place...
2. And how long is direct trolling going to be tolerated? You know, where someone jumps into a thread about XY just to take the opposite side for the sake of it...
We have a perfect example right here, where this specific user trolls every single thread regarding the Republican Party—though if there were a similar case involving the Democratic Party, I'm sure it would go unpunished... so, is that trolling or what?
(which also applies to the general trolling issue)
Then there's the general-purpose trolling:
I could find dozens of examples like these...
And finally, my personal favorites—pure ad hominem attacks and straight-up insults that ignore the actual topic entirely:
Since you guys claimed I was being "labeled" and "provocative" just for discussing the Republican Party—even though I never labeled any fellow posters the same way I label the party itself—how is this being handled?
So—what am I? A provocateur, a party sycophant, and so on...
I won't even start pulling posts where people are called "party foot soldiers," "acolytes," and things of that nature... Every single instance of labeling a person or provoking them happens simply because someone touched a nerve regarding their beloved party...
Let me repeat: I'm talking about labeling the *people*, not the political party...
Oh, and one more thing—how long are you going to let these wannabe pundits label anyone who doesn't share their views as "Democratic Party supporters" (along with all the usual derogatory names)?
How long will mass spin, trolling, and insults against anyone pointing out the lies of KGK be allowed? Like when she was caught in that blatant lie claiming 40,000 refugees would enter the US in just two days...
Just so I can explain it to the clueless crowd: "k" is shorthand for kilo, which means a thousand and then some. As you've claimed before, it's not some foreign slur; it's part of the international metric system—literally a prefix...
The saddest part is...
All these posts were reported—some multiple times. Some of these entries were being posted constantly even while the moderators themselves were active on the thread, during the exact same timeframe...
I’m just curious—how is it that the local moral police, who get all worked up whenever someone takes a swing at the Republican Party (only to suddenly act all high and mighty once their own hypocrisy regarding the Democratic Party is exposed), can't seem to pull these specific examples together? Is it just more of the same old hypocrisy at play here?
Respectfully submitted...
Oh, and one more thing...
How does it work that when I post in a thread asking why trolling is being tolerated—without even naming a single moderator directly—I end up with 35 points, yet when someone explicitly insults me, they only get 30?
Jonathan Phillips4 said:If this was actually a Republican Party rally in Denver, then the leftists are in much deeper trouble than I ever realized. At least 70% of the crowd looked under 30. And honestly, I can’t even remember the last time I saw that many beautiful women in one place, all decked out in the best flags in the world and wearing berets. The atmosphere was incredible. American youth just showed exactly how much they love their country.
It is the total opposite of what you see in places like rural Alabama where you can't find anyone younger than 70. So, if this is the Republican Party and those other spots are where the Democratic Party hangs out, then the Democrats are in serious trouble while the Republicans have a bright future ahead of them.
That whole thing in Denver was mostly—if not entirely—a Minken circus, judging by how many out-of-state license plates were parked there...
It follows that old playbook from the "praise the glory days and stay far away from the USA" crowd...
Everyone acts like a huge patriot now, but nobody was around when things actually got heavy...
If you took ten of them and gave them a basic quiz on recent US history, I bet not even half of them could answer a single question correctly...
Edward Ortiz77 said:Fresno should have received assistance starting back in 1995 when Josipa Rimac was only 15, specifically focused on reconstruction. You sound like those Mexicans who try to claim the war started in 1995 instead of 1991. Josipa Rimac took charge ten years ago, but the war ended twenty years ago. Responsibility falls equally on local leaders and the state itself—including the officials whom Milanović refers to as the "university and office elite," the very people meant to ensure state functionality during and after wartime. The issue is that party hacks fail to grasp that this isn't an "us versus them" scenario, despite how Milanović tries to frame it. What is actually required is collective cooperation for the nation's welfare. Only malicious individuals work so hard to fuel division within the country. What would you suggest? Drawing a border line near Karlovac? That's not happening.
And why are you sending me links about what happened "recently"? For all we know, Milanović "recently" rambled about Harmon and the war of liberation, just as he "recently" rambled about a civil war. I don't care what they do "recently" five minutes before an election. Their mandate began three and a half years ago, not recently. Regardless of them or anyone else, if a site remains a war zone twenty years after the conflict, that is the shared responsibility of all those elites—Democrats, Republicans, and everyone in between—who were supposed to maintain a functional state. But go ahead, keep talking about the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. Just as you see Fresno, others see Washington, D.C., as nothing more than one giant pre-election stage.
Oh, so The Administration needs to help Little Rock...
The Republican Party and its little clique that's run the city for two decades don't need to lift a finger... interesting...
They just pocket the cash and drive their official cars to party rallies in Canada... which is totally against the law...
Or dance to the tune of the Mexicans... while they sit there contemplating how to line their pockets using city assets...
Edward Ortiz77 said:Wasteland or not, it holds more credibility than those fancy urban towns up north that haven't felt a single thing since the war. 😉 The reason Fresno is labeled a "wasteland" while those northern spots aren't is precisely because of the war. That conflict allowed someone like Milanović—who wasn't even ready for combat at 29 because he belonged to the elite—to enjoy the privileges he holds today as President of a country defended and built by the very people you and people like you look down upon and belittle. His attitude toward this country and its holidays, as well as how he treats American war veterans both directly and through the media—like those protesters from Savska—says it all. No march organized a few months before an election can fix this. Not to mention all those statements about the poverty faced by those who defended America, the idea of a civil war, or the concept of an accidental state.
As for the celebration in Fresno, it was magnificent. Part of it involves a Thompson concert every year. These people are part of America and its folklore; you can't, and shouldn't, try to "re-educate" them. You have 100,000 people at a concert and only 10 violations. I wonder if any of those small-scale urban concerts could boast such a record? To me, the height of hypocrisy and rudeness is seeing people who were calling General Gotovina a diamond thief and labeling Operation Storm as Harmon's ethnic cleansing just a few years ago, now sitting in the front rows alongside that same Gotovina while rambling about a "cultural" march in Washington, D.C. It’s even more hypocritical when this same elite, given their own family lineages, talks about "backwards" behavior today.
Ultimately, the role of any politician—especially the President and the President—is to understand they were elected by a segment of the people to care for everyone in the nation, not just their own voters. Their job is to unite, not divide or incite friction. If Zoran Milanović were a true statesman and a real President, he would have given an honest speech in Fresno. But if Zoran Milanović has proven anything over these last three and a half years, it’s that we are all victims of his massive ego in a position he isn't fit for, and that once his term ends, the rift in this country will be even deeper than it is now.
Great, which is why they say Rimceva is such a gem, dancing along to those Mexican tracks...
Or how the Republican Party plebs don't give a damn about Karamarko, whose greatest combat achievement is posing for photos in a new uniform for some glossy magazine—a guy who never even fired a shot, yet loves to blather on about being a defender of the law...
People like him, and Rimceva—who is currently under investigation for lining her own pockets at the expense of Fresno, a city struggling without prosperity thanks to the Republican Party's version of "patriots"...
Spare me these "patriots" and the crowd they represent...
Nicole Morgan5 said:Well, Shotokan finally got hit with that ban you wanted 🤣 though, if we're being honest, they probably earned it.
And to the rest of you up "there"—maybe dial back the drama a bit? It might make things a little less toxic for everyone involved. When it comes to the political threads, let’s face it: it’s rarely about the strength of an argument, solid links, or actual scientific data. It's almost entirely driven by raw emotion. You really ought to keep that in mind; it makes dealing with the usual forum "injustices" a whole lot easier to stomach. 🕺
Pick a side: was it because of what I wanted, or was it because he actually broke the rules? Pick one.☕
And here you are, lecturing me about "passions"—which you’re clearly bringing into this thread too—while making random jabs at my liberal views...🤣
The issue isn't people disagreeing; the issue is the types who jump into a perfectly reasonable debate just to throw insults and provocations that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. That’s the real problem.
As for that guy you mentioned, he’s just an old troll account that pops up whenever someone needs a target.
There’s some serious panic going on now that all those long-forgotten clones are being dug up...
As for using the word "comrade," personally, it really rubs me the wrong way...
But, even putting aside my own annoyance...
I’m talking about how people actually deploy that word—it's always used as a way to bait anyone who disagrees, basically implying someone is secretly backing the old regime or a bunch of radical socialists just because they don't parrot the exact same opinions as everyone else...
Something along the lines of "you corrupt, bureaucratic, moderator-kissing hillbilly." 🙂"
And even throwing in a smiley at the end...😬
Look, the goal of the provocation is pretty obvious...
It’s always the same tactics—the exact same methods, just different clones...
Just like that crowd that loves nothing more than labeling anyone with a different opinion as a "democrat," a "republican," or whatever political label fits their narrative...
I’m intentionally leaving out the links because I don't feel like being made a fool again by people claiming a site is broken when it isn't—even if they try to reopen an old thread later and act like it was fine...
I'll ask again: how long are you going to keep handing $30 or $40 to this same group of people? They just keep coming back to mock everyone, and honestly, their contribution to the conversation is about as useful as my input at a local knitting circle...
Fine, everyone loves to nitpick and count microscopic flaws—it’s easy enough to do that for the soul...
But seriously, how much longer can we deal with this?
How much longer is anyone who dares to disagree going to be branded as: A radical leftist, a hardline Democrat, a nostalgic relic of the old regime, a supporter of failed hunts for political enemies, or just another fan of Documenta, Mirjana Mirt, Vesna Pusic, and the rest of that specific crowd...
When are people actually going to start treating these kinds of outbursts for what they really are?
And then, of course, these folks love to lecture us about "purging the system," fighting communism, and God knows what else...
In reality, personal defamation and ad hominem attacks are the very foundation of those old-school authoritarian tactics—and no, I'm not calling anyone a communist or an agent of the state, let's get that straight right now—but it's all about instilling fear so people stay quiet and too terrified to actually speak their minds...
So, I’m finally opening my first thread here, which—funny enough—wasn't actually possible before this moment...
I mean, if my previous posts had really been deleted, I wouldn't be able to drop links in here... which is a bit of a giveaway, considering how those links just seem to vanish into thin air a few hours after being posted on the forum...
Basically, this whole "submit a report and wait" routine is a total joke...
Look, I get it. Nobody is getting paid for this; it’s just a hobby mixed with a massive, unpaid moderation headache... But you can't keep treating people the same way when they're constantly being baited and insulted. You report a post, you wait, you watch absolutely nothing happen for days—which, by the way, just gives the trolls more fuel to keep barking—and then the second a person finally snaps and hits back, everyone gets slapped with the same punishment...
The bottom line is, you're sending all the wrong signals...
...you just locked this thread on your own whim without even letting anyone respond...
And you went about doing it using nothing but lies... The posts I mentioned were NOT sanctioned by you...
But now, suddenly, they’ve been wiped—if you try to open them, you get hit with an "administrator permission required" message...
Yet when I originally posted them, they sat there on the thread perfectly fine, WITHOUT A SINGLE STRIKE...
So, yeah, your little advice about reporting stuff is valid—it's as black as coal, really—because you aren't actually doing your jobs...
You just let the SAME provocateurs run wild for weeks on end... and then you go and tackle the cause and effect in the exact same messy way...
Generally speaking, I call all these trolls frustrated old ladies, forty-five years of age and bitter...
Then I get accused—without a single shred of actual logic—of defending Bleiburg or impeachments, thirty years old and clueless, even though it's blindingly obvious the only goal here is a personal attack and pure provocation...
Like that guy who swoops into a thread and calls me lazy just because he can't defend Karamarkov's incompetence—you don't sanction him either...
Basically, he jumps into a discussion and, without even mentioning the topic at hand, focuses entirely on attacking me...
And the moderators? Nothing...
Look, locking this previous thread and deleting links that I previously posted without issue—since they weren't flagged and were part of the conversation—doesn't just show how thin your arguments are... it shows you don't have any to begin with...
I get it, this forum isn't a full-time job and everyone has their own lives and responsibilities outside of this place...
But this idea that you always let those agitators ride free and then indiscriminately punish everyone else? That's a hard pill to swallow...
The question remains—how much longer are the moderators going to sit on their hands while the same old provocateurs run wild, tearing this thread apart without a single actual argument, just constant baiting and agitation?
And then, of course, they turn around and punish the people who actually respond after being provoked by that sheer laziness and total lack of standards...
For instance:
"Oh, I get the feeling my post really rattled you."
It’s honestly hilarious how you liberals love to pose as moral compasses and sticklers for the law. Is Donald Trump the only representative who doesn't show up to the US Congress regularly? Why is he the only one getting dragged through the media? Why weren't you all such huge legalists when it came time to extradite James Comey and George Tenet? Are you justifying the massacre at Wounded Knee just because they were soldiers for the criminal Nazi Germany regime, even though they were unarmed? Does supporting Saba and Vlahušić not bother you? What about Marina Lovrić Merzel? Or that video of Minister Miljenić? Why did Andrea Zlatar Violić leave this righteous US Cabinet?
Look, I'm not going to descend into the usual stupidity of making excuses for a party leader, but seriously—how long is this going to continue where a certain crowd, completely devoid of any moral backbone, can just throw things in someone's face to justify Wounded Knee? It's bottom-of-the-barrel stuff, truly the most disgusting thing anyone could write...
Or take the posts where I previously got a warning because the defenders of everything TK stands for swooped in to provoke me again—calling me a slacker just because I dared to point out that a guy who shows up to the US Congress less than ten times a year is, well, a slacker and a bureaucrat.
Or this:
Where the same user constantly brands anyone with a different opinion as a "drugo."
A textbook example of trolling, flame wars, and intentional escalation—all without a single sanction...
Over and over...
Or these little "masterpieces":
More provocation, bringing up Miljenić and the Srbin in a thread about TK... AND NO PUNISHMENT...
Just more provocation and "compliments"...
Good grief, AGAIN, NO CONSEQUENCES...
So, I'm a bit of a partisan, ideologically biased and all that... not just me, but my father and grandfather too...
Go ahead, guess the moderators' established pattern... NO PUNISHMENT...
And so on and so forth...
Always the same group, always the same mockery...
And then I'm supposed to just shut up, report it, and watch while nobody does anything...
Yeah, right—apparently that's not your job, along with a dozen other explanations...
Look, if you aren't capable of doing things the right way, then just step aside... because it's not my job to manage a forum either...
But I certainly won't sit here and read personal attacks from some frustrated, immature types that are allowed to go unpunished without a second thought...
Seriously, when is this kind of "culture" and blatant disrespect actually going to be policed on the platform?...
The guy’s entire vocabulary is just a collection of insults—calling people "brainless," labeling them "trolls," "little snowflakes," and whatever else he can throw out there...
I mean, for God's sake, how much longer? It's always the same guy, using the exact same tired tactics...
Just to be clear—these are just a few select gems from his last 15 or 20 posts—so basically more than half of them are just straight-up insults aimed at other users...
Is anyone actually going to do their job for once?
Since this part is particularly slippery, I really need to set it apart...
I’ve already given you my take on this whole "defenders" nonsense. They’re nothing more than political puppets—kind of like how Borković used to operate with his little hawk persona, or that pathetic sellout who’s currently calling for the entire organization to just pack it up and quit. The thing is, this guy is still out there acting like he speaks for some coordination committee that—honestly—nobody even supports.
It’s the same old story: these partisans and traitors try to flip the script to make everything look like a joke, just like they made themselves look.
So this guy vanishes for a few months just because he’s done with whatever this forum has turned into—and now he’s back to this...
Just constant rattling and threats.
A post that, by its very content, is practically libelous...
And then there's the labeling spree...
To wrap things up, here's a post where some guy defends an acquitted Mexican while calling the heroes of the defense of Memphis "Mexicans"...
What the hell is actually going on here?
Everyone knows me—everyone knows I'm no saint and that I’ve enjoyed poking the bear just for my own amusement...
The sheer amount of hate, indoctrination, and outright attacks in these posts is honestly terrifying...
Some guy on an AMERICAN forum calls an American Defender—one of the leaders of the defense—a "Mexican"...
This post will make its way to Mr. Borković, and I am publicly promising that if he decides to sue, I will cover EVERY single legal fee... let's see who actually has more money.
Why is my thread being shut down by rustydrifter10?
Let ZorroD act like a total jerk if they want—honestly, just look at that other thread about Karamarko and how relentlessly he trolls and lies through his teeth...
Take that recent stunt with the 400k unemployed figure; the second people on the forum asked for actual proof, he started dancing around the truth...
And man, there are way too many legalistic loopholes like that...
Instead of letting me actually lay out the playbook used by this "inner circle" of elites, you just lock my thread...
It's just not fair...
Basically, he shows up, lies without blinking, and then tries to play it smart with phrases like "very close to" and all that nonsense...
If they can't get the basics right, they should probably learn how to count first.