Abolishing partial credit
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boldcanyon14 said:Look, I can't really speak for the other subforums since I don't keep tabs on everything, but I can definitely speak for my own. Five users were hit with partial bans, and all five already had hundreds of active points and dozens of warnings for off-topic rambling, fighting, and general nonsense. They had two months to shape up, and I personally reached out to them via DM to try and smooth things over.
A few of them are actually clones who have been trolling the Economy section for years. Honestly, I was willing to look the other way if they just started posting on-topic and stopped insulting people under fake names. But when I saw zero progress, I handed out the partial bans.
If you genuinely think those guys are examples of what Gerald Chavez7 meant by "economic discussion," more power to you, but this isn't even 1% of the garbage he’s been dumping in the Economy section that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual subject. Maybe you enjoy reading that stuff, but there are dozens—even hundreds—of users who don't want to deal with it. They report the posts, they complain, and when they see no action being taken, they end up getting dragged into arguments and insults themselves.
When a thread gets so heated that we have to scrub 20 or 30 posts, yeah, some decent posts get caught in the crossfire too. But those posts can't stay because they inevitably reference the toxic mess surrounding them; if I leave them up, the whole cycle starts all over again. It’s entirely on the people writing those posts. If they had just made a clean post without referencing an off-topic argument, it wouldn't have been deleted.
Besides, Kerefek isn't banned from sharing his predictions or whatever; he just moved over to the Alternative section because no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't make those posts fit in the Economy section. If it were true what you guys are claiming, he'd be banned from the entire site to silence him, and no discussion would be allowed at all.
As for the topic he claims was shut down because it didn't fit the narrative, it still exists; it's just under Politics. All the players I told to stop clogging up the Economy section are free to post about it over there, because that's where it belongs. Believe it or not, they're even allowed to argue against the narrative. 😲 Kerefek is still posting his stuff, just on the Alternative board, which proves everything is permitted—it just has to be in the right place. If we start talking about everything everywhere, then there's no point in having subforums at all. We might as well just have one giant chat room where everyone talks about everything at once.
It might not look that way to you, but talking about vaccines, the planet Nibir, global elites, secret agendas, and all that junk in the Economy section is like talking about it in the Food section. It makes zero sense. Even if one single post tries to link something back to the economy, the next ten posts fly off into total nonsense.
Tony, you're a solid moderator... 👍
Look, Veli, I wasn't trying to point fingers at you... I just wanted to make it clear that we can't pretend there isn't some level of censorship and content review happening on this forum. It's just not okay to act like it isn't there...
Just stick to the topic, please. No direct insults or even those subtle jabs... just keep it civil and follow the rules. I think the night finally got the better of her...
And this was during that stretch when the economy sub wouldn't moderate anything... back then, you could scroll through pages and pages of people just absolutely tearing each other apart for days without anyone stepping in. But the second someone drops a high-quality economic analysis about exchange rates between warring parties—right in the middle of the relevant thread, mind you—it’s gone. Deleted within thirty minutes... typical.
boldcanyon14 said:Look, I can't really speak for the other subforums since I don't keep tabs on everything, but I can definitely speak for my own. Five users were hit with partial bans, and all five already had hundreds of active points and dozens of warnings for off-topic rambling, fighting, and general nonsense. They had two months to shape up, and I personally reached out to them via DM to try and smooth things over.
A few of them are actually clones who have been trolling the Economy section for years. Honestly, I was willing to look the other way if they just started posting on-topic and stopped insulting people under fake names. But when I saw zero progress, I handed out the partial bans.
If you genuinely think those guys are examples of what Gerald Chavez7 meant by "economic discussion," more power to you, but this isn't even 1% of the garbage he’s been dumping in the Economy section that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual subject. Maybe you enjoy reading that stuff, but there are dozens—even hundreds—of users who don't want to deal with it. They report the posts, they complain, and when they see no action being taken, they end up getting dragged into arguments and insults themselves.
When a thread gets so heated that we have to scrub 20 or 30 posts, yeah, some decent posts get caught in the crossfire too. But those posts can't stay because they inevitably reference the toxic mess surrounding them; if I leave them up, the whole cycle starts all over again. It’s entirely on the people writing those posts. If they had just made a clean post without referencing an off-topic argument, it wouldn't have been deleted.
Besides, Kerefek isn't banned from sharing his predictions or whatever; he just moved over to the Alternative section because no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't make those posts fit in the Economy section. If it were true what you guys are claiming, he'd be banned from the entire site to silence him, and no discussion would be allowed at all.
As for the topic he claims was shut down because it didn't fit the narrative, it still exists; it's just under Politics. All the players I told to stop clogging up the Economy section are free to post about it over there, because that's where it belongs. Believe it or not, they're even allowed to argue against the narrative. 😲 Kerefek is still posting his stuff, just on the Alternative board, which proves everything is permitted—it just has to be in the right place. If we start talking about everything everywhere, then there's no point in having subforums at all. We might as well just have one giant chat room where everyone talks about everything at once.
It might not look that way to you, but talking about vaccines, the planet Nibir, global elites, secret agendas, and all that junk in the Economy section is like talking about it in the Food section. It makes zero sense. Even if one single post tries to link something back to the economy, the next ten posts fly off into total nonsense.
Look, I don't agree with you. Not even a little bit. But I'll be damned if I don't defend your right to say it... even if your take is the complete opposite of mine.
boldcanyon14 said:Look, I can't really speak for the other subforums since I don't keep tabs on everything, but I can definitely speak for my own. Five users were hit with partial bans, and all five already had hundreds of active points and dozens of warnings for off-topic rambling, fighting, and general nonsense. They had two months to shape up, and I personally reached out to them via DM to try and smooth things over.
A few of them are actually clones who have been trolling the Economy section for years. Honestly, I was willing to look the other way if they just started posting on-topic and stopped insulting people under fake names. But when I saw zero progress, I handed out the partial bans.
If you genuinely think those guys are examples of what Gerald Chavez7 meant by "economic discussion," more power to you, but this isn't even 1% of the garbage he’s been dumping in the Economy section that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual subject. Maybe you enjoy reading that stuff, but there are dozens—even hundreds—of users who don't want to deal with it. They report the posts, they complain, and when they see no action being taken, they end up getting dragged into arguments and insults themselves.
When a thread gets so heated that we have to scrub 20 or 30 posts, yeah, some decent posts get caught in the crossfire too. But those posts can't stay because they inevitably reference the toxic mess surrounding them; if I leave them up, the whole cycle starts all over again. It’s entirely on the people writing those posts. If they had just made a clean post without referencing an off-topic argument, it wouldn't have been deleted.
Besides, Kerefek isn't banned from sharing his predictions or whatever; he just moved over to the Alternative section because no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't make those posts fit in the Economy section. If it were true what you guys are claiming, he'd be banned from the entire site to silence him, and no discussion would be allowed at all.
As for the topic he claims was shut down because it didn't fit the narrative, it still exists; it's just under Politics. All the players I told to stop clogging up the Economy section are free to post about it over there, because that's where it belongs. Believe it or not, they're even allowed to argue against the narrative. 😲 Kerefek is still posting his stuff, just on the Alternative board, which proves everything is permitted—it just has to be in the right place. If we start talking about everything everywhere, then there's no point in having subforums at all. We might as well just have one giant chat room where everyone talks about everything at once.
It might not look that way to you, but talking about vaccines, the planet Nibir, global elites, secret agendas, and all that junk in the Economy section is like talking about it in the Food section. It makes zero sense. Even if one single post tries to link something back to the economy, the next ten posts fly off into total nonsense.
Got it. Understood.
So, how’s the economy actually holding up now that all those sanctioned players are causing such a mess...
Are there more posts?
Maybe read more...
More debating?...
Is this sub actually better now? Or just different...
So, how are the numbers looking?
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boldcanyon14 said:Look, I can't really speak for the other subforums since I don't keep tabs on everything, but I can definitely speak for my own. Five users were hit with partial bans, and all five already had hundreds of active points and dozens of warnings for off-topic rambling, fighting, and general nonsense. They had two months to shape up, and I personally reached out to them via DM to try and smooth things over.
A few of them are actually clones who have been trolling the Economy section for years. Honestly, I was willing to look the other way if they just started posting on-topic and stopped insulting people under fake names. But when I saw zero progress, I handed out the partial bans.
If you genuinely think those guys are examples of what Gerald Chavez7 meant by "economic discussion," more power to you, but this isn't even 1% of the garbage he’s been dumping in the Economy section that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual subject. Maybe you enjoy reading that stuff, but there are dozens—even hundreds—of users who don't want to deal with it. They report the posts, they complain, and when they see no action being taken, they end up getting dragged into arguments and insults themselves.
When a thread gets so heated that we have to scrub 20 or 30 posts, yeah, some decent posts get caught in the crossfire too. But those posts can't stay because they inevitably reference the toxic mess surrounding them; if I leave them up, the whole cycle starts all over again. It’s entirely on the people writing those posts. If they had just made a clean post without referencing an off-topic argument, it wouldn't have been deleted.
Besides, Kerefek isn't banned from sharing his predictions or whatever; he just moved over to the Alternative section because no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't make those posts fit in the Economy section. If it were true what you guys are claiming, he'd be banned from the entire site to silence him, and no discussion would be allowed at all.
As for the topic he claims was shut down because it didn't fit the narrative, it still exists; it's just under Politics. All the players I told to stop clogging up the Economy section are free to post about it over there, because that's where it belongs. Believe it or not, they're even allowed to argue against the narrative. 😲 Kerefek is still posting his stuff, just on the Alternative board, which proves everything is permitted—it just has to be in the right place. If we start talking about everything everywhere, then there's no point in having subforums at all. We might as well just have one giant chat room where everyone talks about everything at once.
It might not look that way to you, but talking about vaccines, the planet Nibir, global elites, secret agendas, and all that junk in the Economy section is like talking about it in the Food section. It makes zero sense. Even if one single post tries to link something back to the economy, the next ten posts fly off into total nonsense.
FER, you're spot on!
The only thing is, the crowd was better and the discussions were actually worth reading in the Economy section back then. 🤷
boldcanyon14 said:Look, I can't really speak for the other subforums since I don't keep tabs on everything, but I can definitely speak for my own. Five users were hit with partial bans, and all five already had hundreds of active points and dozens of warnings for off-topic rambling, fighting, and general nonsense. They had two months to shape up, and I personally reached out to them via DM to try and smooth things over.
A few of them are actually clones who have been trolling the Economy section for years. Honestly, I was willing to look the other way if they just started posting on-topic and stopped insulting people under fake names. But when I saw zero progress, I handed out the partial bans.
If you genuinely think those guys are examples of what Gerald Chavez7 meant by "economic discussion," more power to you, but this isn't even 1% of the garbage he’s been dumping in the Economy section that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual subject. Maybe you enjoy reading that stuff, but there are dozens—even hundreds—of users who don't want to deal with it. They report the posts, they complain, and when they see no action being taken, they end up getting dragged into arguments and insults themselves.
When a thread gets so heated that we have to scrub 20 or 30 posts, yeah, some decent posts get caught in the crossfire too. But those posts can't stay because they inevitably reference the toxic mess surrounding them; if I leave them up, the whole cycle starts all over again. It’s entirely on the people writing those posts. If they had just made a clean post without referencing an off-topic argument, it wouldn't have been deleted.
Besides, Kerefek isn't banned from sharing his predictions or whatever; he just moved over to the Alternative section because no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't make those posts fit in the Economy section. If it were true what you guys are claiming, he'd be banned from the entire site to silence him, and no discussion would be allowed at all.
As for the topic he claims was shut down because it didn't fit the narrative, it still exists; it's just under Politics. All the players I told to stop clogging up the Economy section are free to post about it over there, because that's where it belongs. Believe it or not, they're even allowed to argue against the narrative. 😲 Kerefek is still posting his stuff, just on the Alternative board, which proves everything is permitted—it just has to be in the right place. If we start talking about everything everywhere, then there's no point in having subforums at all. We might as well just have one giant chat room where everyone talks about everything at once.
It might not look that way to you, but talking about vaccines, the planet Nibir, global elites, secret agendas, and all that junk in the Economy section is like talking about it in the Food section. It makes zero sense. Even if one single post tries to link something back to the economy, the next ten posts fly off into total nonsense.
True enough... 👍
But man, boldcanyon14, you've got the misfortune of seeing how the Economy is basically the widest net that catches everything else. By definition, it should be the most open area. But where do you draw the line? Who knows...
boldcanyon14 said:Look, I can't really speak for the other subforums since I don't keep tabs on everything, but I can definitely speak for my own. Five users were hit with partial bans, and all five already had hundreds of active points and dozens of warnings for off-topic rambling, fighting, and general nonsense. They had two months to shape up, and I personally reached out to them via DM to try and smooth things over.
A few of them are actually clones who have been trolling the Economy section for years. Honestly, I was willing to look the other way if they just started posting on-topic and stopped insulting people under fake names. But when I saw zero progress, I handed out the partial bans.
If you genuinely think those guys are examples of what Gerald Chavez7 meant by "economic discussion," more power to you, but this isn't even 1% of the garbage he’s been dumping in the Economy section that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual subject. Maybe you enjoy reading that stuff, but there are dozens—even hundreds—of users who don't want to deal with it. They report the posts, they complain, and when they see no action being taken, they end up getting dragged into arguments and insults themselves.
When a thread gets so heated that we have to scrub 20 or 30 posts, yeah, some decent posts get caught in the crossfire too. But those posts can't stay because they inevitably reference the toxic mess surrounding them; if I leave them up, the whole cycle starts all over again. It’s entirely on the people writing those posts. If they had just made a clean post without referencing an off-topic argument, it wouldn't have been deleted.
Besides, Kerefek isn't banned from sharing his predictions or whatever; he just moved over to the Alternative section because no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't make those posts fit in the Economy section. If it were true what you guys are claiming, he'd be banned from the entire site to silence him, and no discussion would be allowed at all.
As for the topic he claims was shut down because it didn't fit the narrative, it still exists; it's just under Politics. All the players I told to stop clogging up the Economy section are free to post about it over there, because that's where it belongs. Believe it or not, they're even allowed to argue against the narrative. 😲 Kerefek is still posting his stuff, just on the Alternative board, which proves everything is permitted—it just has to be in the right place. If we start talking about everything everywhere, then there's no point in having subforums at all. We might as well just have one giant chat room where everyone talks about everything at once.
It might not look that way to you, but talking about vaccines, the planet Nibir, global elites, secret agendas, and all that junk in the Economy section is like talking about it in the Food section. It makes zero sense. Even if one single post tries to link something back to the economy, the next ten posts fly off into total nonsense.
Oh, really? So WEF agendas, the WHO, wars, geopolitical games, pandemics... none of that has anything to do with the Economy?
Or even politics? What does that have to do with the economy? 😁
Especially here in the States... ☕