ironpanther3 said:Hey everyone, I could really use some advice here. Which vendor can I actually trust if I want to order some Elite Whey or Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey from an online retailer? Honestly, between the customs fees and sales tax, it feels like we're just getting ripped off at this point. Thanks.
Charles Chavez5 said:You have a point, but (there is always a "but"), some societies are genetically—if you can call it that—unsuited for cow milk. Other populations (I've always found the Nepalese person interesting) also consume dairy, just not from cows🙂 It isn't strictly about digestion or allergies.
You’re right, but (there is always a "but"), I didn't say that America was included in that group.
You're making broad generalizations here. Most people in America don't have issues digesting milk and dairy products, especially Nordic person groups and Dutch person groups, who consume massive amounts of milk and dairy all the time. So, at least they do, and much of the rest of the West contradicts your sweeping claim.
Charles Chavez5 said:You're right, but (there is always a "but"), I'm not particularly interested in certain Americans. For them, it's still mostly about the money, wherever that may be, but🙂) Take those "magic" whey proteins, for instance; they don't even provide a full label, which isn't even required by the FDA🙄
We aren't even discussing whey protein at all.
Charles Chavez5 said:But🙂 similarly, Native Americans, much like the previously mentioned Bantu Black person (since they don't have cows), rarely suffer from multiple sclerosis (which some argue is caused by consuming "cow" 😛 treats.
P.S. Have you ever actually seen a Native American with a domestic cow? Maybe a bison🤷
That isn't an actual argument. Who really knows why they don't get a disease that is so poorly understood and clearly the result of many different factors?🤷 Basically, saying "they don't get the disease, and they don't eat milk—therefore milk causes the disease" is a total logical fallacy. It's like saying because Chinese people are yellow and eat lots of rice, eating rice makes their skin turn yellow.🤣
Charles Chavez5 said:You know who doesn't have any issues with dairy proteins? You hit the nail on the head—Eskim and Bant don't deal with it at all because they just don't consume dairy in their diets.
The whole issue with milk proteins really comes down to whether a population is genetically wired to digest it or not. Most of Europe isn't in that category. When you're browsing through American websites, you really have to keep in mind that the data is centered entirely on the American population.
I honestly can't stand these wannabe bodybuilders who are so incredibly full of themselves that they just have to go around insulting people for no reason at all.🤣
Nicole Gomez38 said:The currency will definitely lose value, sure, but people will be crushed by much higher debt loads. In a model without non-credit money issuance, the money supply grows way slower than the total debt—I actually broke this down during my segment on Capital Network. On top of that, the credit crisis is only going to get worse because the gap between total debt and the money supply widens every single day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMZsYfyPwzo
I don't know if you caught this part... in a debtor inflation model, once that short-term credit expansion ends, prices skyrocket while wages stay flat. That's your classic stagflation scenario.
One thing is certain: the mere passage of time works against people due to cumulative interest in a model lacking non-credit money issuance. It puts everyone in a worse spot, not a better one.
Also, who told you that wages and prices would just keep climbing indefinitely? Look around—real estate is worth less than it was five years ago, wages have stagnated, and mortgage payments are through the roof. Your theory only holds water if a credit crisis (an inability to service the debt) doesn't happen. But a credit crisis is an inevitable feature of any system where debt outpaces the money supply. Even those claiming the Euro will solve our problems are being misled; many countries that adopted the Euro are actually in the tightest spots right now.
The reality is that people who took out loans followed your exact logic—thinking it would get easier to pay them back over time—but life showed them the exact opposite. Thinking things will just "fix themselves" without changing the entire monetary system is pure fantasy.
Pure debtor inflation paired with rising tax rates is going to wreck both individuals and the economy. That's the biggest secret the financial elite is hiding.
Again, the issue is this "cumulative interest" trap. Picture a country with a million productive citizens. They all take a one-year loan from a $333 at 10% interest. After a year, they collectively owe $367. They have to pay back $1.1 billion. The Bank walks away with $100 million in profit. Consequently, everyone is $33 than when they started. To cover it, they take out a new loan, but this time it's $367. With $33, they try to offset the loss, leaving them with $333 in debt. But now, they owe $403. After two years, everyone is $70 than their starting point. Meanwhile, the Bank has pocketed an extra $110 million, totaling $210 million. As they keep taking larger and larger loans, the cycle repeats with even greater losses; you end up drowning in debt with zero cash left.
So, do you still honestly believe that paying off debt gets easier over time?
Look, given the current state of affairs here in America, I really don't think you should be criticizing the system like that. You seem to be overlooking a fundamental reality: people are actually out there working their tails off and earning a living, which allows them to pay down their loans while still staying in the black. It’s a win-win for the individuals and the banks alike. And honestly? Bringing up "zeitgeist" arguments? Seriously?
Thomas Cook54 said:Are you seriously talking trash about Vuca??? If someone doesn't love Vuca, they're basically useless!!! Have you no shame??? You're just a total jerk, just like half the people in this country.
Look, I’m all about Black music—rap, reggae, funk, soul, jazz, you name it. But I honestly don't get why people act like such snobs about country music. It’s just a genre like any other; you’ve got your absolute legends and then you’ve got your total garbage. If those same songs were written in English, they’d probably be considered great, but the way they're presented here, they just feel like trash. Honestly, the people who constantly trash-talk country fans are the biggest hypocrites I know. They act so high and mighty, like they're somehow more "urban" or sophisticated than the folks listening to country. But at the end of the day, country is just the local sound of this region. I really don't understand the attitude; people should just listen to whatever makes them happy and enjoy themselves. Personally, I’d much rather "ban" punk and its various offshoots, or even extreme metal subgenres like black or death metal—to me, that stuff isn't even music. But hey, I’m not going to judge anyone for what they listen to. People should just do their thing and have a good time.
I’ve been staying active since I was maybe 12 or 13—it’s been a long time, honestly. Back then, I was just doing squats, push-ups, and sit-ups at home, using those old-school chest expanders. I eventually joined a local gym when I was around 15 or 16 🤷 where they focused heavily on bodybuilding, but I never really vibed with that whole bulky, puffed-up bodybuilder look. Not long after that, I bought some weights for my house and started digging deeper, trying to figure out how to actually build strength rather than just looking big. As I got older, I really started to hone in on what I wanted for my physique while soaking up everything I could about training. Once I started college, I began experimenting with advanced calisthenics and incorporated Pavel's methods (seriously, if you're a hobbyist or an athlete, Pavel Tsatsouline's books are absolute must-reads). Eventually, I found my way to gymnastics, which I've been practicing for about a year and eight months now.
On top of all that, I’m a huge martial arts enthusiast. I trained Wing Chun for two years, and late last year, I started getting into MMA. I had to put that on hold recently because things are a bit tight financially, but I'm planning to get back into it as soon as I possibly can.
My ultimate goal is to one day pull off those insane gymnastics moves that seem impossible to anyone who isn't a professional.🙂
slydriver52 said:There are a handful of people on there who actually know their stuff—real experts—but they’re few and far between, and they aren't even that active. Most of everyone else is just some kid who thinks they're an expert and ends up handing out terrible advice.
I was being sarcastic, honestly, but I can't say they're wrong.
slydriver52 said:Whenever people start posting stuff this serious, they usually completely forget how important it is to actually back up their claims. Where are the actual references for those points mentioned above? I'd bet my life that claim probably originated from some random bodybuilding message board. What kind of studies have actually proven this? Guys, seriously, just relax a little and stop splitting hairs over every tiny detail!
To be honest, I’m just not seeing it. I’ve gone through quite a few studies regarding how dairy affects athletes, and I haven't come across that specific argument anywhere. If anything, the research suggests that subjects experience significantly faster recovery times and muscle growth due to that hormonal response I mentioned earlier. People who are against dairy usually just dodge that point entirely by claiming the studies were funded by big dairy corporations like Danone or Kraft Heinz.🙄 Andol isn't the answer here. You'd probably be better off trying contrast showers. Personally, they really do the trick for me.
People are just people, and everyone will swear up and down that their specific method is the absolute gold standard. Honestly, if you mix your whey with milk versus water, the actual difference in results is probably going to be around 5%—give or take, and I might be exaggerating a bit there, so don't quote me on that. Most bodybuilders tend to avoid milk, which means they often overlook the fact that dairy can actually nudge your body toward releasing growth hormones. Because of that, even though the protein content in milk is mostly slow-digesting casein, it remains an incredibly potent tool for building muscle mass. The bottom line is this: if you prefer your whey with water, stick to water; if you like it with milk, go with milk. People these days spend way too much time nitpicking over tiny details and wasting energy on problems that don't really matter. Just hit the gym, drink your whey, and stop overthinking it.
Here is one more thing those anti-milk crusaders just refuse to acknowledge: milk actually binds free radicals—especially lead—within the body, so... you really ought to be drinking it!
Staying active and eating right is essential. Humans were built to be on the move, not stuck sitting still all day. Back in the day, people were physically active by necessity and ate whatever they could grow or harvest from the land, so nutrition wasn't even a conscious decision. Nowadays, we spend our lives hunched over desks in office buildings, snacking on highly processed junk, which means we actually have to make a conscious effort to exercise and watch what we put in our bodies. Regular workouts boost your energy levels and essentially train your body to operate more efficiently. Meanwhile, fueling up with nutrient-dense foods gives your system everything it needs to function properly, and honestly, that health eventually shows on the outside too. It’s really not rocket science—like Jerry Howard said: just work out and eat well!
Jonathan James7 said:It’s just not cutting it; it doesn't provide a full profile of 20 amino acids.
I suppose you have a point there, but since it does contain all the essential amino acids, it could theoretically serve as a meat substitute. However, I guess the whole issue with genetic modification and the way they process everything—not to mention the fact that it contains phytoestrogens—really makes me doubt it would be a suitable replacement.
To be fair, soy does possess a complete amino acid profile, but I still think you should probably steer clear of it because of the heavy processing and all that genetic engineering they do.
You came here looking for advice, and you've certainly received it. As Matthew Richardson81 pointed out, you have to stay open to learning and being willing to accept new information. You need to realize that volume and intensity exist in a sort of tug-of-war; low intensity lets you crank up the volume, whereas high intensity naturally limits how much volume you can handle. If your goal is to actually build muscle strength and mass, you need high intensity, which by definition means you'll be limited to lower volume sessions. I mean, if you can pedal for 2, 10, 20, or however many miles you want, you don't exactly need to be a scientist to figure out that you're working with high volume—which implies your intensity isn't quite high enough to trigger real growth in strength or mass. So, to see those gains, you need high-intensity training that you simply won't be able to sustain for very long periods. Honestly, heavy squats are probably the most straightforward answer to that.
John Johnson16 said:Are you talking about MusclePharm Whey?
I’m talking about back squats using a barbell with submaximal loads. What does riding a bike for a thousand miles have to do with anything? Intensity and volume are two completely different beasts. By your logic, someone who spends their entire day on their feet—like a mail carrier, for instance—would automatically have powerful legs. Do mail carriers have powerhouse legs?
