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Karen Sanchez19 said:You're way too obsessed with physical stuff... go get laid and then come back when you're satisfied.🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 😂

This is just what happens when someone runs out of actual points to make.🙂

Enchantress said:For me, the mental fog clears up when I just let my thoughts drift by without latching onto them. As soon as I try to focus on one specific thing, everything gets messy again. It’s almost the exact opposite of how most people approach it. 😉

If that's how it works for you, then go for it.

But honestly, that's pretty much how it starts for everyone during meditation or deep focus sessions. You need time and practice to move past that stage. In fact, it feels like the mind only really goes haywire once you actually start doing the work. Or maybe it's not that it "goes crazy," but rather that you finally become aware of just how ungrounded and chaotic it actually is.

It’s just like hitting the gym for the first time—your body resists because it's not used to the strain.

Karen Sanchez19 said:If you finally see what I mean:
Consciousness is just...

no matter what happens

I know I am because I can feel it. And honestly? I’m always conscious. Whether I'm wide awake or deep in a dream, it's all there. But I'm done getting tangled up in endless theories about what consciousness actually is, where it comes from, or who I really am. It just leads to mental clutter—basically, a self-imposed headache. 😁

Balkanijan Pig said:You can’t force yourself to reach enlightenment; you can only quiet the mental noise. It’s like clearing away clouds—the sun just appears on its own. You don't "turn on" the sun.

For me, the mental clutter clears up whenever I just let my thoughts drift by without clinging to them. The second I try to focus intensely on something, the confusion starts all over again. So, my process actually works the exact opposite way. 😉

Karen Sanchez19 said:How exactly do you think you can just wish your way into changing your brain through sheer willpower and goals?

I’m telling you again, your mind operates independently of what you want out of it...
(Not that my opinion matters much)

Wait, are you actually suggesting someone can build biceps just by setting a goal and wishing for it? You might as well just go sit on the couch and wait for a miracle to happen. 🙂

Porky Pig said:honestly, stop trying to get all philosophical on these forums🤣

But seriously, does what you actually end up doing even matter when you look at the big picture?

Karen Sanchez19 said:I'm heading to bed, my head is absolutely pounding. I only got about three hours of sleep because I had a midterm today...

Goodnight

👋 🙂 🙂

Wait, you're actually in college too?

How does that work? Don't you need a job for that? 🙂

Who even goes to university anymore, and who's actually sitting for exams? It’s like people are exhausting both their bodies and their minds just to chase a paycheck. 🙂

Balkanijan Pig said:It’s the same deal with the mind. I really hate it when you just let him mumble away aimlessly.

Look, if this is YOUR drive and YOUR calling—if you feel like you just have to be there—then go for it. It’s totally valid because it's coming from your own internal programming. What works for one person might not work for someone else.

Karen Sanchez19 said:Who exactly is waking up your mind in the morning, huh?

Who is the entity present while we sleep, while we dream, and even during our deepest REM cycles? That internal witness—the one observing both our mental landscape and the physical world—is what allows us to bridge the gap between who we were ten years ago and who we are now at fifty. It’s the constant thread through dreams and reality, the singular force that ties all these versions of ourselves together, and ultimately, it's the part of us that holds the power to take control.

Karen Sanchez19 said:So how exactly are you supposed to reach the truth through sheer willpower and hard work??

And who is this mysterious figure that’s supposed to show up if we stop trying??

🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙄

The thing is, you can't force your way to enlightenment; you can only clear the mental clutter. Think of it like clearing away storm clouds—once they move, the sun just naturally appears. You don't "turn on" the sun.

It's like what those old masters used to teach about calming the mind to find its source. You can put in the effort to settle things down, but once you've done your part, the rest isn't really up to us.

Karen Sanchez19 said:Are we talking about the physical body here??

Because honestly, consciousness isn't something separate from the body.

You're pulling me back into those abstract theories again.
I can't wrap my head around what causes what, and frankly, I don't want to waste my energy overthinking it. It feels like I'm just chasing my own tail at this point. 😁 I know I am when I'm being mindful, but right now, I just feel like 😁 a single, cohesive being—both mind and body.

Enchantress said:Alright, let's say you finally grind through the struggle and actually learn how to just *be* without all the mental noise. So what? What's the point?

I guess I won't feel the need to go deep on philosophy in internet forums anymore 🤣

Enchantress said:Whether you use tools to focus or just try to force it through sheer willpower—and honestly, I think some people can slip into that state effortlessly just by wanting to—it doesn't actually lead to anything significant. Do you really think that’s how you gain actual control over anything? Your thoughts, your body, your life? It's not that simple.

I think 😳 😛

The thing is, it's not just about "wanting" something to happen. I spent a few years totally neglecting my physical health—just being lazy and not taking care of myself—and eventually, you hit a wall where you realize you have to get your act together because everything starts breaking down. You can't ignore your body; it either improves or declines based on how you treat it. It's the exact same deal with your mind. I hate letting my brain just wander aimlessly without any direction.

Balkanian Pig said:Even when you're in a deep sleep, your mind is essentially blank. In a way, deep sleep and samadhi are actually quite similar—it's just that the first one happens without any conscious awareness.

Besides, you can experience a thoughtless state during normal waking hours if things get intense enough. Think about being in a major car accident (or narrowly dodging one), or even just being totally overwhelmed by a high-stakes situation where the sensory input is so loud it completely shuts down your internal monologue. Samadhi goes way beyond that, though, so it’s not really surprising at all.

Okay, let's say you finally grind through the struggle and actually learn how to exist without thoughts. So what? What's the point then?

Karen Sanchez19 said:Does your sense of being tied to your body actually define your consciousness?

When I'm conscious, I am. But honestly, I only ever experience awareness through the connection between my mind and my body—it doesn't feel any other way.

Balkanian Pig said:The stuff that naturally grabs your attention and pulls your mind into focus—that’s just how our biology works. The whole point of these exercises is to learn how to actually steer those mental processes ourselves, rather than just being a leaf in the wind, getting blown around wherever our thoughts decide to take us.

Whether you achieve concentration using specific tools or just by sheer willpower (and I definitely believe some people can drop into that state effortlessly just by wanting it), it doesn't lead to anything special on its own. Do you honestly think just hitting that state is enough to give you actual control over things—like your thoughts, your body, or your life?

Enchantress said:By the way, I'm not so sure you can actually exist without thoughts. It feels as impossible as trying to exist without a physical body.

Actually, you totally can. 😉

Even when you're in a deep sleep, your mind isn't racing with thoughts. In fact, there's a real connection between deep sleep and states of samadhi—it’s just that the former happens unconsciously.

Besides, you can hit a thoughtless state in everyday life during intense moments. Think about being in a car accident (or narrowly dodging one on the highway), or when you're so completely overwhelmed by something that the external input is so loud it just shuts down your internal monologue. Samadhi goes way deeper than that, though, so why would it be any different?

Karen Sanchez19 said:The only thing you can actually experience is an object. But wait—is pure consciousness itself just another object?

Honestly, screw philosophy.

There’s no other way to describe anything when our entire vocabulary is trapped by our own thoughts and this whole dualistic view of the world.

Balkanijan Pig said:It’s actually a big deal for me because my dream recall and how vivid they are act like a barometer for my mental state. It’s one of those indicators. When I’m feeling mentally and physically on top of my game, my dreams are incredible. If I’m focused but feeling physically sluggish, the dreams stay vivid but turn into nightmares. And if I’m just totally checked out and numb, I don't dream at all. It isn't the main issue itself, but it's definitely a symptom.

If we feel "dead" inside, I truly believe something is off with our lifestyle. This is just how it works for me personally, so it won't cost Karen Sanchez19 anything to give it a shot—I'm sure they can handle a few days without bourbon or checking the forums. 😁

True, but like you said—that’s just your experience. 😉 That doesn't mean it applies to anyone else on the planet.
Everything is subjective. For me, dreams don't mean anything beyond being a fun ride. I love dreaming simply because it's entertaining. 🙂

Balkanijan Pig said:Isn't just tracking and observing your thoughts considered a practice in itself? Your awareness and focus are right there—that's the actual exercise. Using "observation" is really just one specific technique among many. At the end of the day, the goal is to reach a state of thoughtlessness. If you get too caught up in watching all the different mental gymnastics and weird states the mind goes through, you run the risk of just entertaining yourself with your own ego.

I think you missed my point. I wasn't suggesting that you consciously track every single thought (because let's face it, using thoughts to monitor thoughts is just more thinking). What I meant was trying to be more mindful of the insights you gain, those sudden urges, or deep desires that bubble up. By paying attention to how you feel and what's happening around you, you eventually start to notice how everything just naturally falls into place on its own.

By the way, I'm not even sure it’s possible to exist without thoughts. That feels a bit like trying to exist without a body.