@wanderinggull35 - just because nobody noticed you doesn't mean we aren't paying attention. And don't sweat this debate too much; in any argument, one side rises while the other falls—that's just how it goes. I don't see why you'd come crawling in here with an olive branch trying to play peacemaker right now.
Don't worry about this thread; there’s no actual fight brewing here. There is a massive difference between a heated debate and an all-out brawl 👍
Regarding the subject at hand, it’s strange to talk about people and their drive to hurt others or things. When it comes to stuff like that, I don't think we can ever truly know what "snaps" in someone's head, whether it leads them to kick a kitten or do something even more twisted to a pet.
The people who want to "crucify" those types of individuals are just proof that their reaction against the perpetrator isn't much different from the crime itself. When people think they're right—when they believe they're fighting for a righteous cause or standing against evil—they are capable of committing acts far worse than the original crime.
In my opinion, these killers (whether targeting humans or animals) are sick; there is something fundamentally broken in them. As someone with a conscience, I have to ask: how could anyone find satisfaction in something like that? That's why I believe these people need professional psychological help.
The fact that people are capable of such horrors today goes against everything in the laws of nature!
@ placidjackal36 I agree that there are people who possess a moral compass without needing a Bible or societal laws to guide them. The only examples that come to mind are indigenous tribes living outside modern civilization, though even among them, you see horrific crimes committed due to misguided beliefs, like ritual sacrifices.
Whether we like it or not, from the very beginning, we are subconsciously conditioned by certain rules that we feel compelled to follow.
I agree with you that a conscious, moral person shouldn't need formal laws to
hold the conviction that murder and crime are wrong.
But you also have to consider that reaching that level of maturity and conscience requires experience and the time spent growing up within a society, where we learn these lessons.
I think how someone develops within society and whether they eventually turn to crime varies from person to person... but that kind of psychological analysis is a whole different conversation 👍