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Brian Mitchell44 Brian Mitchell44 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2006
#1 ·
Since the old thread vanished without a trace 😁, I am opening this new one where we can all exchange advice regarding the headaches caused by our wonderful USPS (and believe me, they certainly don't lack for issues 😁). So, to kick things off, here are a few of my own recommendations regarding shipping items based on my personal experience, and how you might manage to do it a bit more cheaply:

SHIPPING PACKAGES
If you are sending a package weighing up to 11 lbs and it doesn't contain anything incredibly high-value (think designer sunglasses, luxury watches, smartphones, or other pricey gadgets), my suggestion is to declare a specific value $33 on the form. If you do this, the shipping cost will ALWAYS stay relatively $5.00 predictable. Naturally, the package is sent via certified mail and you receive a receipt which serves as your proof; if the package goes missing, you can use that to claim a specific amount of compensation.

Additionally, if you are shipping something fragile, make sure you wrap it thoroughly and specifically ask them to slap a "Fragile" sticker—you know, the one with the glass icon—on the box. It signals to the handlers that they should actually treat the item with care, which is how it ought to be done. 😬 This will cost you roughly an extra $2.25 bit more.

SENDING CERTIFIED MAIL
For items that aren't particularly heavy—maybe just a few ounces—you can opt for this method. The postage will top out at about $6.75 (depending on the weight), and the main difference compared to a standard package is that certified mail gets tossed into a bag with other similar items (usually those envelope-style shipments). Even here, you get a record of shipment because you still have to fill out the certified mail paperwork. Should it disappear, you would be entitled to compensation in the following amount: five times the postage paid (at least, that was the case the last time I checked).

SHIPPING VIA CASH ON DELIVERY (COD)
This means that upon delivery, whoever receives the shipment pays a specific amount that is noted on the form attached to the package. The form is somewhat inverted, so to speak, because the money flows to you; when filling it out, you are essentially the recipient in terms of payment flow, while the sender is the person who actually paid you. You'll see how this works when you fill one out yourself.
This is a solid option if, for instance, you don't fully trust the person you are dealing with and fear they won't pay. You simply send the item this way and they are obligated to pay the postal carrier upon receipt, otherwise, they won't get the package .

The only catch is that you must emphasize to the recipient that they will be responsible for paying a certain percentage of the total amount as a fee to the post office for handling the transaction.

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SENDING STANDARD MAIL
In principle, I avoid these types of shipments because you have absolutely no proof that you ever sent the item, and if it gets lost, you're basically screwed. Literally. 😬
So, if someone feels like gambling, go ahead. It isn't expensive, but for anything of even moderate value, I wouldn't recommend it.

LOST PACKAGE/CERTIFIED MAIL - NOW WHAT?
First and foremost, ALWAYS hold onto your receipt for the package or certified mail until the recipient confirms they have actually received it. We all know it happens—packages or mail just vanish into thin air—and then what?
There is a specific window in which a shipment is expected to arrive, and if it isn't picked up from the post office, it should be returned to the sender. If, for example, after 15-20 days it hasn't even been returned, you should head down to the post office where you sent it from and file a claim. That involves a specific form you purchase at the post office (I believe they charge for it...)$5.00), you just fill out who you sent it to and all that; then that form travels to the intended recipient, where they confirm the package wasn't received and sign off on it.

After that, it heads back to you, you get notified once it arrives, and then you receive a specific monetary reimbursement. What that amount actually is depends entirely on the postage rate—basically, the declared value of the package. 🙂

William Jones30 said:As an employee at USPS with several years under my belt :P let me clear a few things up.

If you sent someone an overnight package, a recommendation, or a FedEx shipment with COD (cash on delivery), that "overnight" status applies strictly to the package itself, not to the money being returned to you. Money being returned via a postal money order is treated as "standard" mail; it isn't expedited, so don't expect it to show up at your door the very next day (unlike a FedEx delivery, for instance). From my experience on the job, it usually takes about 2-5 business days for that cash to reach you.

When sending standard packages, the rule of thumb is that you need packing paper and twine (for the heavier stuff), unless you’re dropping it in a blue USPS collection box (in which case, just twine for the heavy ones). But even then, that rule exists in theory, while reality is often different. Sometimes they'll look the other way. In major cities where home delivery is standard, like Chicago or New York... delivery fees are $1.75 and are always paid by the recipient. The sender always covers the cost of shipping standard packages.
The only service offered by the Postal Service where the recipient can cover the shipping costs is FedEx-style COD services.

The biggest headache when sending any kind of shipment is dealing with the money order for COD.
At the post office, you pay a fee for the money order which is 3.66% of the total amount, with a minimum of $3.00 and a maximum of $27. For a general money order, the minimum is $1.75 and the maximum is $27.
So, if you’re sending a COD package and you paid $17 upfront, but you're asking the recipient to pay, say, $167, then they’ll end up paying an additional $6.00 in COD postage plus $1.75 for the delivery.
The same rules apply to the money order for FedEx-style services, though not necessarily for the delivery fee itself.

Any package that gets returned to the sender when the service wasn't prepaid (for example, if it was sent via FedEx with "recipient pays" instructions) will be charged the original shipping price plus a 50% surcharge for the return trip because the recipient failed to pick it up. This happens if they didn't show up, couldn't be located, refused the delivery, etc.
If the service *was* prepaid, the sender still pays 50 percent for the return of the undelivered package. If anyone is wondering why this is the case or why it seems so ridiculous, think about it logically. We drove all the way to Washington, D.C. with a package, and then we had to drive it all the way back because YOUR recipient didn't pick it up. Do you really think we’re going to drive all that way back to you for free? 😉
If you don't want to pay for the return, the package stays at the post office and after a certain amount of time, it goes to public auction and/or gets destroyed.

There is more to it, but I don't have the energy to write everything down right now. I'm sure I've missed plenty of details, but this should serve as a starting point.
If you have any questions I might be able to answer, feel free to ask. 🙂
ironbear6 ironbear6 Newcomer
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#2 ·
Angela Flores76 said:Since the old thread apparently vanished without a trace...😁

I didn't realize "vanished without a trace" was the new way to say "this thread is legendary."😁.
Brian Mitchell44 Brian Mitchell44 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2006
#3 ·
ironbear6 said:I had no idea that being a synonym for the "HOT TOPIC" meant vanishing without a trace😁.

I have absolutely no clue which thread you’re referring to, because it's crystal clear we aren't talking about the same thing.
There was a discussion regarding the USPS and all our ongoing headaches with them—questions, advice, things of that nature—and from what I can see, that specific thread isn't exactly a trending topic. 😁

Furthermore, I’ve combed through every single page on this subforum and within this thread itself; there isn't a shred of evidence to suggest otherwise, so, frankly, I don't think the issue lies with me. 😁

p.s. I see there's only this tiny snippet available, but even so, that is definitely not the thread in question. 🙂
rapidfalcon22 rapidfalcon22 Member
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joined Jun 2009
#4 ·
Angela Flores76 said:...There used to be a thread dedicated to the USPS and all the issues we faced there—questions, advice, things of that nature...

Good morning. 🙂

The actual title was "Online Sales/Trading - Common Issues We Encounter" and it was meant to cover much more than just postal service troubles...😉
David Mitchell4 David Mitchell4 Active Member
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joined Apr 2011
#5 ·
I have two questions here.
1. How is it that I occasionally show up at the post office with a red slip and don't actually have to sign anything? They just hand me the package and crumple up the notice. Does anyone know why that happens?
2. My second question: how can I ensure my packages always arrive at my local branch instead of, say, the one on Branimirov?
Thanks 🙂
Brian Mitchell44 Brian Mitchell44 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2006
#6 ·
1. I’ve never once been handed a red slip; it was always yellow for me. 🤷
2. And why on earth would it be sent to the Branimirov branch if you have a local one to handle it before forwarding it from Branimirov? If Branimirov is supposedly the main hub... where exactly would everything land if every single person and every piece of mail headed straight to the central post office? 😬
David Mitchell4 David Mitchell4 Active Member
61 messages
joined Apr 2011
#7 ·
I honestly don't know why this keeps happening, but it does. Even when I make sure to enter the exact right zip code. So, does anyone have any insight on what might be causing this?
Ashley Torres29 Ashley Torres29 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2011
#8 ·
I always stick to FedEx. Either they pay cash on delivery, or I have them wire the total—including shipping—to my checking account first, then I just send it out for them to pick up. In my experience, that’s easily the fastest and most secure way to handle it.
Karen Moore64 Karen Moore64 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2008
#9 ·
Hey, can someone please point me in the right direction if I'm looking for some basic white printer paper and that thick brown packing tape somewhere here in Washington, D.C.... 🤷
Thanks 🙂
Brian Mitchell44 Brian Mitchell44 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2006
#10 ·
Karen Moore64 said:Can anyone point me in the right direction? I'm looking for some basic white printer paper and that heavy-duty brown packing tape. Does anyone know where I can pick those up around Washington, D.C.? 🤷
Thank you. 🙂

Where on earth can one actually find decent school supplies these days? I’m talking about a proper stationery shop or a dedicated bookstore—not just some corner convenience store that carries three broken pencils and a single, lonely notebook. Does anyone actually know which retailers still maintain a real selection of academic essentials?
Lawrence Hall2 Lawrence Hall2 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2008
#11 ·
Alright, here’s another look at those bank routing numbers:

- 2360000 (JPMorgan Chase)
- 2340009 (Bank of America)
- 2402006 (Goldman Sachs)
- 2484008 (Wells Fargo)
- 2330003 (Citigroup)
- 2500009 (Deutsche Bank)

I stumbled upon these by accident—well, I actually needed one of the bank codes for something else... but hey, if anyone wants to save themselves the hassle of digging through Google, there you go.
😍
Timothy Newman14 Timothy Newman14 Member
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joined Apr 2008
#12 ·
Hey, could someone let me know where I should put the sender's info versus the recipient's on a package? Thanks in advance! I'm planning on sending this via COD...
Donna Martinez95 Donna Martinez95 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2009
#13 ·
Put the recipient's info in the bottom right, your details in the top left—that's you—and make sure to black out your own address.
Timothy Newman14 Timothy Newman14 Member
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joined Apr 2008
#14 ·
Alright... I need to figure out where to list the price or how this actually works... Basically, I'm sending a small package via COD, so the recipient handles the shipping costs at the post office when it arrives.
Donna Martinez95 Donna Martinez95 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2009
#15 ·
When you show up at the UPS store, just tell them you’re sending it COD. They’ll hand you a form to fill out and walk you through the whole process.

In my experience, they always wanted me to cover the shipping costs upfront, so I’d just bake that into the item's price. For instance, if the item is $33, and shipping via USPS is $20, they charge me that $6.75, so I’d just list the total price for the buyer as $40. I’m not entirely sure if your local post office offers an option where the recipient pays the postage directly instead of you, so you might want to double-check with them...

As for the package itself, you don't need to write anything on it; they handle all the paperwork on their end. The main thing is just making sure you hang onto that receipt proving you sent it COD.🙂

I know I’m not exactly winning any awards for clarity here, but hopefully this gives you a starting point.😳
Timothy Newman14 Timothy Newman14 Member
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joined Apr 2008
#16 ·
Yeah.. thanks..
neonridge8 neonridge8 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2012
#17 ·
I need to send a small package over to Canada, and I'm not quite sure how to handle it. Does anyone know what the shipping rates look like for a package up to 2 kg? Also, how does tracking or proof of postage work when you're sending something internationally? If anyone has experience with this, please let me know. 🙂
Donna Martinez95 Donna Martinez95 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2009
#18 ·
Take a look at the first post in the thread; you can actually run the numbers there to see what shipping will cost across all the different service options 🙂

Otherwise, just head over to the post itself and ask them to give you a quote for the total 🙂
neonridge8 neonridge8 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2012
#19 ·
Alright, thanks 😉
Michelle Ward3 Michelle Ward3 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2013
#20 ·
Quick question: when you're sending larger packages, do you need to specify if they're being sent as a parcel or a registered letter?

One day at the post office, the clerk was measuring my package dimensions and doing some math—I was bracing myself for a massive bill since I had several large items—but turns out everything just came out to $14.$5.75

Then today, I hit up a different branch with three small parcels (all in those bubble mailers, definitely under 11 lbs)... and the woman there just blurted out $9.00 that every single 😠 one
would cost...
What’s actually the difference between a standard package and a registered letter? They both use the exact same form.

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