Posts by Linda Moore51

silverwolf88 said:...the supposed wisdom of the alternativa crowd.

George, what you just wrote there is a complete oxymoron.

silverwolf88 said:I honestly can't tell if you're some kind of reviewer working for those American mathematical journals I submitted my derivations for—you know, the ones involving kinetic energy—and if you’re actually the one who looked over my work, which would explain why you're so convinced that I botched the derivations.

Look, George, I’m not some self-proclaimed "reviewer," but I do serve as a peer reviewer for several foreign academic journals.

silverwolf88 said:It would be pretty damn weird if you started passing judgment on excerpts that you haven't even laid eyes on.

Look, I’m not even going to bother grading your work here, mostly because from what I can tell, you haven't actually produced anything yet.

silverwolf88 said:Did you actually bother to look through my bank statements?

Even if I had actually run into the guy in person, I still wouldn't be sitting here typing out my thoughts about reading his stuff, especially on a forum like this. Look, the process is pretty standard: once you submit a paper for peer review, you eventually get an email from the reviewer telling you exactly what needs fixing or where you need to be clearer. When that review hits your inbox, you'll see their full name and email address because, let’s face it, you might actually have to talk to them to sort things out. But here is a bit of unsolicited advice for when you do reach out: try not to brag about how well you cruised through Calculus 1, because that reviewer has likely mastered far more advanced mathematics than you could ever dream of. And for heaven's sake, leave out all that nonsense about wearing leggings, oversized anatomy, or being terrified of bulldogs. Just keep it professional.
And maybe Arthur Smith15 or Alexander Thompson actually bothered to read your work; why don't you go ask them?

silverwolf88 said:
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Jerry White29, are you seriously backing trolls like these?

George, look, this isn't even about whether I'm siding with Alexander Thompson or Arthur Smith15; the real issue here is that you clearly haven't bothered to read, follow, or listen to a single word we've said regarding the actual process of writing and publishing scientific papers. I haven't been keeping close tabs on your posts for a while, but from what I can see, things have spiraled completely out of control.

Honestly, you should take a moment to ask yourself why you’re blocked from so many subforums. It’s pretty obvious that you carry a massive chunk of the blame for that. Everything you say eventually devolves into some ego trip about how you wear leggings and how tough you are, while people like us—who don't bother with the leggings—are somehow "judging" you or preventing you from publishing research.

Just stop picking fights with Alexander Thompson and Arthur Smith15. For all we know, they might actually sit on the Council (though I have no idea which Council 😬 or where on earth they'd be sitting on any kind of Council)

silverwolf88 said:...

When you actually sit down and look at the post from this guy "skeptik," who claims to be some kind of physicist, check out this link


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Look, skeptik is a physicist and he’s absolutely right; everything he laid out is spot on.
Honestly, getting all worked up and taking your anger out on Arthur Smith15 and Alexander Thompson isn't doing you any favors. You're just wasting your own mental energy and completely blowing your arguments because you can't keep your cool.

silverwolf88 said:...

I’m telling anyone over on Alternative News who actually understands math to just stay far away from these people—don't even bother arguing, just ignore their posts entirely.

Who exactly are these people on Alternative News that you're claiming don't know math? Honestly, the better question is what you even consider "mathematical knowledge" to be, because whenever I read the stuff being posted over there, it seems like everyone knows their numbers perfectly well.😬.

Linda Harris44 said:...

Honestly, I feel a little embarrassed for you because it’s painfully obvious they just used you to push Abraham and the rest of us out of the picture. 🕺

😬, look, do me a favor and stop posting such mindless nonsense and blatant lies. Why on earth would I want to see Abraham or Guru get kicked off this forum? And who exactly are "the rest of us" you're talking about? You mean yourself? 😬 😬 You aren't any more important than Abraham or Guru...
The alternative crowd will finally settle down once the pseudo-alternative crowd stops spouting pure idiocy. For example, take how Abraham and Guru claimed that Vitamin C is actually produced inside the human body.
Do you actually agree with that claim from the quack? Or what do you think about Guru's assertion that only distilled water has the formula H2O, implying that tap water somehow doesn't follow that formula? I'm sitting here wondering what the formula for tap water is supposed to be, but nobody seems interested in giving me an answer...

stormyrider28 said:People are posting over there too, just a hell of a lot less frequently. And honestly, I have to wonder—why is it that Jerry White29, or any of those other people who spend their entire lives hurling insults, never bother showing up in the gastronomy section to tear people apart? They aren’t there trying to invent fake mistakes in someone's posts or acting like a broken record, repeating the exact same nonsense fifty times like some mindless parrot. Is it because they know they can't get away with it there? It makes me think there might be a direct connection between their absence and the fact that the moderation over there actually functions.

Linda Harris44 Asks:
Over on the food forums, you won't find anyone questioning the sheer brilliance of tossing kale and beets into a salad quite like the way they condescendingly tear apart almost every single recipe Ethan Barrett22 posts over here.
The comments on this thread are getting absolutely ridiculous, honestly. You’ve got people questioning why anyone would even bother posting recipes here when they can just pull them up on Google in two seconds. Then you have the nitpickers diving into the "philosophy" behind every single dish, or obsessing over whether there’s actually raw cacao available, or demanding to know the exact origin of the agave syrup used. It’s constant—people grilling me about organic ingredients or complaining that certain items aren't sourced locally from within the States. It’s exhausting.

Do you honestly think they’d write like this when discussing gastronomy? Would they really bring this exact same energy to a discussion about fine dining or food culture?
They aren't saying anything because if they actually spoke up, they’d be flying out of here the very same day.

Now I’m genuinely stuck wondering if you two actually have no clue what’s going on here, or if you’re just playing dumb to get under my skin.
Let me try to break this down for you all so you actually understand what’s going on here. The reason nobody jumped on Nadrilekar’s absolute nonsense in that gastronomy PDF is simply because he didn't actually write it in there. If he had actually put those ridiculous claims in print—specifically that claim about carrot juice being virtually identical to human blood—he probably would have been banned on the spot. If he had actually gone ahead and written that garbage, I wouldn't have just sat there; I would have sent him a message telling him exactly what an idiot he is.

I hope things are finally starting to click for you people. If you’re wondering why you "alternative" types aren't allowed to post on that PDF, it's pretty simple: they wouldn't let you get away with spreading such absolute garbage. They won't tolerate nonsense like the claims made by Ethan Barrett22, that total hack and self-proclaimed Guru, who actually tries to argue that the human body just manufactures its own Vitamin C out of carbohydrates and water. Or even worse, the claim that H2O is only the formula for distilled water, while suggesting that regular tap water somehow follows a different chemical structure. He’d be banned in a heartbeat because he's nothing more than a complete idiot who has no clue what he's talking about.
And that’s exactly what keeps happening all the time over on the Alternative subforum.
GNU, I really hope you get exactly what's going on here.

stormyrider28 said:Well, if you've got PZK status, then feel free to complain whenever someone isn't following the rules. And that goes for every single person on this forum that you've insulted or continue to insult in every damn post you make. You can always state that you disagree with someone without resorting to such blatant, crude insults. Why on earth do you feel the need to be so insulting??

GNU, you missed the mark again. I am not offended; frankly, I couldn't care less what any of you think. That was simply one example used to demonstrate how the nonsense you're spewing just isn't true.

I also want to point out that a while back, one female member actually invited Ethan Barrett22—that high-strung crackpot and self-proclaimed Guru—to come write over in the "Gastronomy" section since they actually moderate things there.
From what I've seen, he managed to squeeze out exactly one post. Isn't it a little strange that a guy who loves to ramble on about healthy eating doesn't bother posting where he won't get "insulted"?
Or maybe the real issue is that because they actually moderate that place, people won't get away with claiming they can cure cancer with ten raw seeds or insisting that carrot juice is practically identical to human blood?

Just a quick little breakdown of a few things that GNU simply refuses to wrap his head around.

stormyrider28 Asks:
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It’s pretty obvious to anyone paying attention that Jerry White29 spends every single post he makes hurling insults at Ethan Barrett22, calling him some kind of fake doctor or a total Guru, and he hasn't stopped this nonsense for over a year now.
Is this actually considered an insult toward other users, or is this kind of behavior just permitted around here?
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Look, GNU, remember back on September 30, 2018? Nice shut down that whole "cancer treatment" thread because people were out there peddling straight-up lies and pure snake oil. One of the main culprits driving all that fraudulent nonsense was Ethan Barrett22, acting like some kind of high-and-mighty medical guru. To make matters worse, she even posted this:
Let me make one thing crystal clear for anyone following this thread moving forward: we have completely lost our way here, and the sense of direction has gone totally out the window. It’s gone straight off the rails. Now, look, I have absolutely nothing against discussing Alternative methods, but there is a massive, unbreakable line that we cannot cross. You cannot, under any circumstances, encourage people to disregard modern medicine or ignore the professional advice of their doctors. Nor should anyone be out here promoting methods that have been scientifically proven to be harmful and dangerous. We need to keep some level of sanity around here.

But let’s be real, Ethan Barrett22 and that self-proclaimed Guru are still out there playing doctor, handing out their unsolicited advice like they actually know what they're talking about, all while slapping some fake "scientific" study on top of it to make their nonsense sound legitimate. 😬 Those so-called "scientific" websites are nothing more than a joke.

Ethan Barrett22 Mark Cruz15 said:Look, it’s pretty obvious that sticking to raw food is the way to go if you actually care about your health, because it's significantly better for you than anything processed. When you're talking specifically about things like carrots and beets, they've got a massive amount of nutritional value that you just don't get when you cook them down. Look, I’ve seen people throwing around terms like "scientific evidence" lately as if it's some kind of magic shield to justify whatever half-baked theory they just pulled out of thin air, but let's get one thing straight: actual, verifiable scientific proof isn't just a buzzword you toss into an argument to shut people up when you're losing. It requires rigorous testing, peer review, and a level of scrutiny that most of these internet gurus couldn't handle if their lives depended on it. You can't just claim something is a fact because it feels right or because it fits your specific agenda; without the data to back it up, you're just shouting into the void and calling it expertise.Look, I can give you plenty of real-world examples where these measures don't just sit there looking pretty—they actually work as a preventative strike to stop problems before they even start, while also serving to... They can actually be a massive help when you're dealing with certain illnesses, and we're talking about serious stuff here, like even helping to combat carcinoma.

There isn't a single shred of actual scientific evidence in any of those links you provided. Seriously, where is the data? Are you even following GNU at this point?
Regarding all those times I’ve called him a total fraud, it’s pretty obvious you haven't been paying attention to the thread history. Let me spell it out for you since you seem lost. Basically, Ethan Barrett22—who honestly acts more like a self-proclaimed "expert" than anything else—is out here running around claiming that Arthur Smith15 and I are actually the same person, like we're some kind of clones. This isn't even the first time he's pulled this stunt, either. Every single time this happens, I offer him a high-stakes bet: let's run a formal verification to see if Arthur Smith15 and I are truly the same user. The terms are simple: if we are, both of us get a permanent ban, but if he's just making things up, he gets the ban. But of course, because Ethan Barrett22 isn't a man of his word and lacks any actual integrity, he refuses to step up to the plate. He loves to throw out these baseless accusations, yet he’s too much of a coward to actually back them up when challenged. 😬 Well, it’s pretty obvious why that is—it's because we're sitting right there on his ignore list. 😬
I hope it’s finally sinking in for you why he’s such a complete disaster.

stormyrider28 said:You’ve repeated that exact same line at least five hundred times now, but we haven't seen a single shred of actual evidence to back it up—just your endless storytelling. Everything you've ever posted on this forum is right here for everyone to see, and there's plenty of proof of what you've actually said.

GNU, I honestly can't tell if you're genuinely incapable of grasping this or if there's some other issue going on with you. A while back, before the rules were tightened up, one of those pseudo-alternative types tried to file a formal complaint against Brenda Gonzalez12 right here on this subforum, and then Abraham, Nadrilekar, and Guru all jumped in. When Brenda Gonzalez12 asked for permission to post the phone number from which your mentor, Abraham, had sent him a message, Nadrilekar and Guru completely folded like a cheap suit—and I'm talking about their character here. So, GNU, you really ought to think twice before you start typing, because the way you're acting makes you look utterly incompetent.

By the way, just as a little reminder, you still haven't decided where you stand regarding the insults being hurled by your "female" friend, @real life.
Did she accuse Al Dente of being a fascist or a sympathizer? I've been asking you that question for quite some time now, yet you still refuse to give me a straight answer. Are you finally going to decide whether or not your "friend" actually insulted Al Dente?

Also, GNU, are you going to weigh in on how Abraham, Nadrilekar, and Guru took posts from @leteca over on that other forum specifically to defame her?
Can you actually speak on that?

GNU, I'll be waiting for your response. 😬

Sophia Fowler44 said:Honestly, it’s just pathetic how they don't have a single clue what they're doing. They sit there acting like experts, but they haven't got the slightest grasp on reality. It's absolutely laughable.

It’s not just that they have no clue what they're talking about; they are actually incredibly prone to straight-up lying. But honestly, you were asking about your brother anyway, so there's really no point in even bothering with them. 😬
If I recall correctly, you mentioned once that your mother was a nurse or something along those lines, and yet here you are, popping up on this forum to ask people how one goes about manufacturing their own Vitamin C supplements. It’s honestly pretty ridiculous.
I’m going to go ahead and ask my mom if the human body actually produces Vitamin C from the carbohydrates and water we consume... though, let’s be honest, if my mother doesn't have the answer, I'm sure the doctors she works with definitely do, so she can just pick their brains about it.

Sophia Fowler44 said:Honestly, I’d much rather just head over to a different subforum and ask for some actual advice there.

That was some seriously questionable advice he gave you, unless your grand plan is to show up at the hospital during a blood transfusion and demand they swap out the actual blood for a glass of carrot juice.

Sophia Fowler44 said:And that’s exactly where I messed up—instead of just trusting my gut and moving forward, I went ahead and wasted my time reading everyone’s unsolicited advice and bugging people to explain things to me like I didn't already have a clue.

Are you actually kidding me right now? Did someone seriously sit there and tell you that if you get diagnosed with cancer, you don't even need to worry because you can just munch on ten or so raw apple seeds and watch the whole thing vanish into thin air? I am honestly struggling to wrap my head around the level of sheer, unadulterated nonsense being peddled these days. It is absolutely delusional to think that some handful of fruit pits acts like a magic wand against a life-threatening disease, and frankly, it’s dangerous as hell to suggest that anyone should bypass actual medical treatment for such a ridiculous superstition.

Sophia Fowler44 said:What Linda Harris44 just said honestly has nothing to do with acting like a civilized human being, and frankly, it’s an embarrassment to him personally. If they actually let him off the hook without any kind of penalty, it’s going to be a total disgrace to this entire forum.

You’re absolutely right; what people call "civilized behavior" is nothing more than a thin veil for being a complete jerk. They think they're being sophisticated by mocking someone else's family or sending those condescendingly "polite" little text messages to an elderly person just to twist the knife. It’s pathetic, really.

Now, go ahead and do yourself a favor—log out properly and then log back in using your buddy's username...

stormyrider28 said:There are plenty of links out there filled with values, but none of them actually reflect yours...

stormyrider28, listen, I just gave you some advice to actually think about what you’re going to type before you hit send. Right now, you’re coming across like you either can't wrap your head around a simple thought or you just plain despise Monty. Look, here’s just a little snippet from this lady who clearly does nothing but swallow everything she's told:
I’ve been sitting here thinking about this whole mess, and honestly, it’s just exhausting to watch how people jump to conclusions without actually looking at the facts. You see it all the time on these online boards where everyone acts like an expert on things they barely understand. I was reading through some of the stuff being said by Brandon Newman95 and Daniel Davis40, and it really hits home how much misinformation is floating around out there. People want quick fixes and easy answers, especially when it comes to things like nutrition or even discussing alternative medicine, but life isn't that simple. Look, I’m not trying to be difficult, but we need to have a more polite discussion in alternatives if we ever want to get anywhere. We can't just shout over each other. I was talking to Abraham about this the other day, and he pointed out that most of the "evidence" people cite is basically just noise. It’s like when people try to argue about politics or big corporate decisions—like whether someone should work for ExxonMobil or stay small—they forget that context matters. Everything has layers. And don't even get me started on the way people handle their health. They see one headline about some new discovery in medicine and suddenly they think they know more than a doctor in a major US hospital. It’s reckless. You can't just ignore the science because you read a post on a random forum. We need to be more deliberate. We need to stop rushing to judgment and actually sit down, look at the data, and have a real conversation. If we don't start demanding more substance from our discussions, we're just spinning our wheels in the mud.

stormyrider28 said:She didn't even bother to acknowledge you, let alone respond; from where I'm sitting, it looks like she’s just straight-up ignoring you.

Come on, man, just go back and take another look at that link. I honestly don't understand why people still fall for this nonsense, because if you actually sit down and look at the facts instead of just blindly following whatever trend is happening on social media, the truth becomes incredibly obvious. We are constantly being fed these half-baked ideas about health and wellness that have absolutely no basis in reality, yet people jump on them like they've discovered some secret fountain of youth. It’s frankly exhausting to watch everyone pretend that these unproven methods are somehow superior to actual, evidence-based medicine, especially when the consequences of being wrong can be so severe. I was reading through some of the comments earlier—and yes, I saw what Brandon Newman95 was getting at—and it just reinforces my belief that we are living in an era where misinformation travels faster than common sense. You have people claiming they've found a "miracle" cure in some obscure corner of the internet, ignoring everything we know about biology and nutrition, and then acting shocked when things don't go their way. It isn't some grand conspiracy; it's just plain old ignorance mixed with a desperate desire for a quick fix. If you want to have a polite discussion in alternatives, fine, we can talk about different perspectives, but let's not pretend that ignoring scientific consensus is a valid lifestyle choice. There is a massive difference between being open-minded and being completely reckless with your own well-being. At some point, you have to stop looking for magic bullets and start respecting the work that goes into legitimate medical science. It’s high time we started applying a little bit of critical thinking to these discussions before someone gets seriously hurt chasing a fantasy.
And now, let me tell you exactly how she does it—how that woman just sits there and completely ignores him, acting like he doesn't even exist while she's busy swallowing everything he throws her way.

stormyrider28 said:It’s actually a good thing that someone else brought this up before me—I mean, let’s get real for a second. If someone were to walk up to your mother or your wife and start talking to them exactly the way you were talking to Linda Harris44, would you honestly sit there and act like it was fine? Would you just shrug your shoulders and try to justify that kind of behavior? I highly doubt it.

Stormyrider28, you’ve got some seriously selective memory, don't you? It wasn't even that long ago that your mentor was firing off SMS messages to him that were anything but loving.

stormyrider28 said:Honestly, you’ve single-handedly trashed this entire subforum with your constant insults, and if the moderators had actually bothered to act on our reports when we first filed them, we wouldn't be dealing with this absolute mess today.

You’ve got it all wrong. This subforum isn't ruined at all, and honestly, everything is going to settle back to normal once people finally stop spreading blatant lies and posting those fake "testimonials" about miraculous recoveries caused by eating nothing but raw food and sitting out in the sun.

stormyrider28, can you actually sit here on this thread where we're discussing insults and just categorize them based on the list I gave you? Let me refresh your memory:
Are you ever going to finally take a stand regarding that insult from your "female" friend @real life, the one who had the nerve to accuse Al dente of being some kind of fascist or ultra-nationalist? I’ve been asking you this same question for quite a while now, but you just keep dodging it like it's nothing. So, let me ask you straight: are you actually going to settle this once and for all and decide whether your little friend really did cross the line and insult Al dente?

Also, stormyrider28, are you actually going to take a stand on this, or are you just going to sit there while Ibro acts like some self-appointed medical guru, shamelessly ripping off posts from @leteca over on that other forum just to smear her reputation?
Are you going to finally speak up and clarify your position on this?

I’ll give you one bit of credit, though—at least you’ve stopped referring to her as just some "woman" and have finally started treating her like a fellow forum member. Bravo, stormyrider28.

stormyrider28 said:Unfortunately, everything the people before me have said about Brenda Gonzalez12 is absolutely spot on. It’s honestly getting ridiculous at this point because there is barely a single post where they aren't being insulting or aggressive toward someone else, and this toxic behavior hasn't let up for months.

It would be absolutely wonderful if people could actually take a single second to think before they start typing, specifically regarding what they say and how they say it. It’s honestly exhausting when someone just blurt out blatant lies or utter nonsense without even a moment of reflection. Most of what Monty posts is nothing more than a direct reaction to the garbage that the pseudo-alternative crowd keeps spewing about him and his family. If you actually bother to look at the big picture, it becomes crystal clear who is actually responsible for all this chaos. Fortunately, the authorities are fully aware of the situation, and they can very easily track exactly who is responsible for these posts and what they're saying.

stormyrider28 said:No matter how much it insults my intelligence, there is absolutely no logical reason why he never gets a red card, and frankly, I’m at a total loss as to why this keeps happening.

Look, laying out cold, hard facts backed up by actual arguments isn't an insult. If you’re sitting there feeling personally attacked just because you can't wrap your head around the truth, that honestly says a lot more about your own limitations than it does about me.

stormyrider28 said:I honestly have no idea how anyone can sit there and justify such blatant, disgusting insults directed toward... I don't know what to tell you, but it’s just common sense at this point. Honestly, if people would just stop being so oblivious and actually look at the facts, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. It's frustrating how often the most obvious things get overlooked by people who refuse to see the bigger picture..

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Look, stormyrider28, that sentence you just put out there is straight-up insulting. First off, you’re just throwing around the word "woman" without even adding a proper descriptor to it. That kind of blunt, dismissive way of talking about a woman is exactly how some uncultured idiot on a street corner would do it. It’s incredibly tacky. It would be a hell of a lot more decent to say "a female individual" or "a woman" with some actual respect. But it doesn't stop there, does it? You're basically insulting women by acting like they're all dim-witted or somehow less valuable, as if they aren't capable of standing up for themselves. And then, of course, here comes the great GNU knight to swoop in and defend the "honor" of some nameless "woman." It’s honestly pathetic.

stormyrider28 said:....
Is there... Are you really going to just sit there and let him walk away scot-free again this time, giving him a free pass to keep insulting anyone and everyone he runs into?

Look, you really need to stop starting every single sentence with bold text like that. It’s obnoxious. Seriously, go pick up some GNU books and actually read them—read them whenever you aren't busy working or whatever else you do.

Since we’re already going down this road of discussing insults, why don't we finally settle once and for all whether your "feminine" persona, @real life, actually crossed the line when she accused Al Dente of being a fascist and a Nazi? I’ve been throwing this question at you for quite some time now, but you just seem to dodge it every single time. So, are you finally going to step up and decide if your "feminine" side was out of line for insulting Al Dente like that?

Also, stormyrider28, are you actually going to take a stand on how Ibro—that absolute hack and self-proclaimed guru—went out of his way to scrape posts from @leteca on that other forum just to smear her reputation?
Are you going to address this or what?

Monty simply shared a link to a post by a woman describing her experience with swallowing pills; honestly, it was perfectly relevant since the entire conversation was centered around nutrition...

Linda Harris44 said:Regarding my post where Bonecrusher and I were actually discussing things relevant to the topic of nutrition—specifically how I haven't had a single health issue since I cut meat out of my diet—Brenda Gonzalez12 decided to chime in with this:

Just look at how far his obnoxious behavior has gone now.

Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is with the image. It looks almost identical to those particle collision captures you get from a high-speed particle accelerator.

Linda Harris44 said:Hey there. I’m asking nicely here—I really need a response from a moderator or an admin.

For the last few days, Brenda Gonzalez12 has been relentlessly hounding me on this forum, throwing nothing but insults and being completely out of line.
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Do you even remember how this whole mess actually started? It all began with you people—those fake Libertarian Party types—just relentlessly attacking a man simply because he had the guts to point out what an absolute monster and cultist leader that Ibro guy really is.
Furthermore, I honestly don't see what the big deal is or where the insult lies when someone simply points back to your own damn post where you explicitly stated that you enjoy swallowing semen. You’re the one who put those words out there into the world, so why on earth would you act all embarrassed about it now? It’s your own admission, after all.

Linda Harris44 said:Ever since this particular user joined the Libertarian Party forums, they’ve been running around trashing every single discussion thread in sight. It’s like they treat every topic—from dietetics and raw food debates to this current mess about holistic medicine—as nothing more than a personal playground for their own crude, offensive outbursts.
And all of this is happening simply because there aren't any damn sanctions in place to stop them.
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That’s just not true, and frankly, it’s nothing more than a blatant, intentional lie. If you actually bother to look, you can easily find Monty's body of work over at the Libertarian Party. Everything that has spiraled out of control over this past year can be traced directly back to the moment we started exposing the absolute garbage being peddled by these so-called "alternative" pundits. Once we stripped away the mask and proved they were nothing but frauds and pathological liars spreading misinformation, everything shifted, leading us right to the mess we’re dealing with today. And now, to top it all off, we have the fact that Lorelei shut down the entire thread because—and I quote—
Everything about this thread has gone completely off the rails, and frankly, the sense of direction is totally lost; it’s like we've veered straight into a ditch where common sense goes to die. Look, I have absolutely nothing against discussing alternative approaches or looking into different ways of handling health, but there is a massive, glaring line that we simply cannot cross. We cannot be in the business of encouraging people to just toss modern medicine out the window or disregard what their doctors are telling them. It is irresponsible, plain and simple. We absolutely must not promote methods that have been scientifically proven to be harmful or dangerous, because once you start playing fast and loose with actual medical facts, you're heading toward a disaster.
Because of all that nonsense coming out of China, these fake-deep pseudo-libertarians have decided to direct almost all of their misplaced anger and pure hatred toward Monty Python instead. It’s pathetic, really. They aren't even debating policy anymore; they’ve resorted to tearing him down personally by attacking his weight and dragging his family into the mud. It has actually escalated to the point where he’s been getting harassed with abusive text messages. It’s just low-class behavior, plain and simple.
Thank God Brenda Gonzalez12 actually knows exactly who is behind this mess, and honestly, I’m just sitting here hoping that whoever pulled this stunt gets hit with the full force of the law very soon.
Personally, if someone had the nerve to send me an insulting text message and I actually knew who was behind it, I’d have a serious problem with that.
I honestly can’t imagine anyone else having the nerves of steel that Brenda Gonzalez12 possesses. If it were Guru, he would have been absolutely broken by now.

I really need to point out that everything Brenda Gonzalez12 is claiming Monty said to be offensive is just plain false. Honestly, the guy is simply standing his ground and firing back against the insults that were thrown at him first. I truly don't see any valid reason why Monty should face any kind of punishment, regardless of how much Swallow Girl keeps pushing for it.
At the end of the day, regarding this whole debate over swallowing semen—which, frankly, is just an insult to any woman who chooses to do it—one guy on the forum had the nerve to tell her she basically wrote a PhD dissertation on the subject. And look, the comment itself didn't even offend her, but bringing up that specific post? That’s where it crosses the line. It’s just unnecessary.

I just want to point out a few blatant contradictions coming from Elizabeth Jackson, that quack, and her self-appointed guru persona.
I’ll start from the end, which is actually quite telling.

Elizabeth Jackson said:No, It feels like you all are actively working to cause harm. By attacking and insulting people who are simply trying to discuss methods that could actually help others, you’re undermining the very purpose of these discussions.

The sub-forum is... Alternative Treatment—and let’s be honest, we all know exactly what we’re debating here. We’re talking about everything that falls outside the bounds of mainstream medicine.

There are clearly defined rules for this sub-forum, and... Honestly, none of those people you're constantly coming after are actually breaking a single one of those rules.Unlike you, who seems to take pleasure in insulting people just because they want to discuss the topic at hand, I prefer a bit more decorum.
Honestly, even the fact that you felt the need to use bold text here just proves my point—you simply can't help yourself from resorting to insults. It seems like it's just part of your nature at this point.
So, does someone who constantly resorts to insults actually have good intentions? It’s an interesting question, I suppose. I find myself wondering if there's a hidden layer of benevolence behind that kind of abrasive behavior—like they think they're being "honest" or "tough" for your own good. But honestly, maybe that's just wishful thinking on our part. It’s hard to say for sure without knowing what makes them tick. 🍿

Not a single one.

Not a single one.

He wasn't exactly trolling the thread; rather, he was issuing a warning—and one that he backed up with plenty of solid examples. Regarding the blatant rule violations on the Alternative subforum. As we’ve observed, the most frequent issues involve crude insults and ad hominem attacks.

The posts being quoted don't seem to be edited or taken out of context to me, though the insults within them are certainly plain to see.
This is just your classic example of cheap, kindergarten-level insinuation... I mean, we can all see exactly what you said, and there’s really no excuse for the nasty insults you’ve been hurling at people.
If you disagree with someone, you can say so quite politely instead of responding to everything with the crudest possible language.

That is precisely why I’ve put you on my ignore list, along with a few others—it's because of the constant insults.
And honestly, you act this way because there isn't anyone here to hold you accountable.
Once moderation actually starts happening (if that ever happens), I’ll take everyone off my ignore list and I will gladly engage with you; then you won't be able to hide behind this behavior, and I'll just dismantle your points with actual arguments until you lose your cool and resort to insults again. 🙂

And please, don't ask me again why I'm not answering when you're on my ignore list. You've been on this forum far too long to be asking that, and I’ve already explained that on threads under active moderation, I will engage with anyone on my ignore list if I happen to notice their post.

I have no idea who you're referring to or by what right you'd label a female member that way, but apparently, you just can't help yourself from being insulting here either. 🤮

If someone spoke to you like that, or in the manner that Gnu quoted, you'd probably be wailing and whining about it across every thread for two months, telling your neighbors, and I doubt even the local senior center would be spared.
However, we've all just accepted that this is simply who you are, and since you can't be any different, we've long since Googled your insults, which serve as nothing more than proof that you've completely lost your temper due to a total lack of actual arguments.
But hey, I suppose these quotes are useful for the official records, so the moderators can see how things actually stand on the unmoderated Alternative PDF. ☕

Your whole approach seems centered on attacking and insulting this individual and several others.🤦
Personally, I don't see any issue with someone agreeing with someone else on a particular point.
In my view, being in agreement is just as polarizing as disagreeing, but at least agreeing doesn't violate the rules, whereas insults certainly do.
Gnu hasn't made a single post where he insulted anyone, nor has he used any ad hominem tactics.
I don't see any links provided here; it just feels like a sweeping fabrication. Meanwhile, he actually provided a substantial collection of evidence clearly showing the insults and ad hominem attacks, along with numerous accusations of people being "clones"—all coming from the exact same people who level those same accusations against others. 🤦

And there we have it—this is exactly how you deal with people's private lives, and it characterizes your entire presence on this sub-forum...🤮
Of course, these aren't considered ad hominem arguments simply because they're coming from you. 🍿
But if someone happens to suspect that someone else is a clone, then that's apparently worth a firing squad. 🤦

I honestly think this thread is pointless and there's no reason to waste any more time here.
It looks like this is just another playground for you to vent, so it might be best to just let you talk to yourself. It might serve as another outlet for you, and since you seem to have so many of them, perhaps you'll finally achieve some actual results.

Elizabeth Jackson, you quack and wannabe guru, should probably just lock this thread down before some pseudo-Alternative crowd starts running wild—honestly, maybe someone should even audit you here...

Elizabeth Jackson said:No, It feels like you all are actively working to cause harm. By attacking and insulting people who are simply trying to discuss methods that could actually help others, you’re undermining the very purpose of these discussions.

The sub-forum is... Alternative Treatment—and let’s be honest, we all know exactly what we’re debating here. We’re talking about everything that falls outside the bounds of mainstream medicine.

There are clearly defined rules for this sub-forum, and... Honestly, none of those people you're constantly coming after are actually breaking a single one of those rules.Unlike you, who seems to take pleasure in insulting people just because they want to discuss the topic at hand, I prefer a bit more decorum.
Honestly, even the fact that you felt the need to use bold text here just proves my point—you simply can't help yourself from resorting to insults. It seems like it's just part of your nature at this point.
So, does someone who constantly resorts to insults actually have good intentions? It’s an interesting question, I suppose. I find myself wondering if there's a hidden layer of benevolence behind that kind of abrasive behavior—like they think they're being "honest" or "tough" for your own good. But honestly, maybe that's just wishful thinking on our part. It’s hard to say for sure without knowing what makes them tick. 🍿

Not a single one.

Not a single one.

He wasn't exactly trolling the thread; rather, he was issuing a warning—and one that he backed up with plenty of solid examples. Regarding the blatant rule violations on the Alternative subforum. As we’ve observed, the most frequent issues involve crude insults and ad hominem attacks.

The posts being quoted don't seem to be edited or taken out of context to me, though the insults within them are certainly plain to see.
This is just your classic example of cheap, kindergarten-level insinuation... I mean, we can all see exactly what you said, and there’s really no excuse for the nasty insults you’ve been hurling at people.
If you disagree with someone, you can say so quite politely instead of responding to everything with the crudest possible language.

That is precisely why I’ve put you on my ignore list, along with a few others—it's because of the constant insults.
And honestly, you act this way because there isn't anyone here to hold you accountable.
Once moderation actually starts happening (if that ever happens), I’ll take everyone off my ignore list and I will gladly engage with you; then you won't be able to hide behind this behavior, and I'll just dismantle your points with actual arguments until you lose your cool and resort to insults again. 🙂

And please, don't ask me again why I'm not answering when you're on my ignore list. You've been on this forum far too long to be asking that, and I’ve already explained that on threads under active moderation, I will engage with anyone on my ignore list if I happen to notice their post.

I have no idea who you're referring to or by what right you'd label a female member that way, but apparently, you just can't help yourself from being insulting here either. 🤮

If someone spoke to you like that, or in the manner that Gnu quoted, you'd probably be wailing and whining about it across every thread for two months, telling your neighbors, and I doubt even the local senior center would be spared.
However, we've all just accepted that this is simply who you are, and since you can't be any different, we've long since Googled your insults, which serve as nothing more than proof that you've completely lost your temper due to a total lack of actual arguments.
But hey, I suppose these quotes are useful for the official records, so the moderators can see how things actually stand on the unmoderated Alternative PDF. ☕

Your whole approach seems centered on attacking and insulting this individual and several others.🤦
Personally, I don't see any issue with someone agreeing with someone else on a particular point.
In my view, being in agreement is just as polarizing as disagreeing, but at least agreeing doesn't violate the rules, whereas insults certainly do.
Gnu hasn't made a single post where he insulted anyone, nor has he used any ad hominem tactics.
I don't see any links provided here; it just feels like a sweeping fabrication. Meanwhile, he actually provided a substantial collection of evidence clearly showing the insults and ad hominem attacks, along with numerous accusations of people being "clones"—all coming from the exact same people who level those same accusations against others. 🤦

And there we have it—this is exactly how you deal with people's private lives, and it characterizes your entire presence on this sub-forum...🤮
Of course, these aren't considered ad hominem arguments simply because they're coming from you. 🍿
But if someone happens to suspect that someone else is a clone, then that's apparently worth a firing squad. 🤦

I honestly think this thread is pointless and there's no reason to waste any more time here.
It looks like this is just another playground for you to vent, so it might be best to just let you talk to yourself. It might serve as another outlet for you, and since you seem to have so many of them, perhaps you'll finally achieve some actual results.

Elizabeth Jackson, you quack and guru, your understanding of "alternative" and "Alternative Treatment" is completely flawed; frankly, it's ignorant and dangerous to the public.
You can't just tell people that eating ten pieces of Raw Food apple slices over several months will cure cancer. Sure, you can say it, as she so eloquently put it, but Elizabeth Jackson, that is fundamentally untrue. And linking to those nonsense conspiracy websites is just plain moronic.

Elizabeth Jackson said:No, It feels like you all are actively working to cause harm. By attacking and insulting people who are simply trying to discuss methods that could actually help others, you’re undermining the very purpose of these discussions.

The sub-forum is... Alternative Treatment—and let’s be honest, we all know exactly what we’re debating here. We’re talking about everything that falls outside the bounds of mainstream medicine.

There are clearly defined rules for this sub-forum, and... Honestly, none of those people you're constantly coming after are actually breaking a single one of those rules.Unlike you, who seems to take pleasure in insulting people just because they want to discuss the topic at hand, I prefer a bit more decorum.
Honestly, even the fact that you felt the need to use bold text here just proves my point—you simply can't help yourself from resorting to insults. It seems like it's just part of your nature at this point.
So, does someone who constantly resorts to insults actually have good intentions? It’s an interesting question, I suppose. I find myself wondering if there's a hidden layer of benevolence behind that kind of abrasive behavior—like they think they're being "honest" or "tough" for your own good. But honestly, maybe that's just wishful thinking on our part. It’s hard to say for sure without knowing what makes them tick. 🍿

Not a single one.

Not a single one.

He wasn't exactly trolling the thread; rather, he was issuing a warning—and one that he backed up with plenty of solid examples. Regarding the blatant rule violations on the Alternative subforum. As we’ve observed, the most frequent issues involve crude insults and ad hominem attacks.

The posts being quoted don't seem to be edited or taken out of context to me, though the insults within them are certainly plain to see.
This is just your classic example of cheap, kindergarten-level insinuation... I mean, we can all see exactly what you said, and there’s really no excuse for the nasty insults you’ve been hurling at people.
If you disagree with someone, you can say so quite politely instead of responding to everything with the crudest possible language.

That is precisely why I’ve put you on my ignore list, along with a few others—it's because of the constant insults.
And honestly, you act this way because there isn't anyone here to hold you accountable.
Once moderation actually starts happening (if that ever happens), I’ll take everyone off my ignore list and I will gladly engage with you; then you won't be able to hide behind this behavior, and I'll just dismantle your points with actual arguments until you lose your cool and resort to insults again. 🙂

And please, don't ask me again why I'm not answering when you're on my ignore list. You've been on this forum far too long to be asking that, and I’ve already explained that on threads under active moderation, I will engage with anyone on my ignore list if I happen to notice their post.

I have no idea who you're referring to or by what right you'd label a female member that way, but apparently, you just can't help yourself from being insulting here either. 🤮

If someone spoke to you like that, or in the manner that Gnu quoted, you'd probably be wailing and whining about it across every thread for two months, telling your neighbors, and I doubt even the local senior center would be spared.
However, we've all just accepted that this is simply who you are, and since you can't be any different, we've long since Googled your insults, which serve as nothing more than proof that you've completely lost your temper due to a total lack of actual arguments.
But hey, I suppose these quotes are useful for the official records, so the moderators can see how things actually stand on the unmoderated Alternative PDF. ☕

Your whole approach seems centered on attacking and insulting this individual and several others.🤦
Personally, I don't see any issue with someone agreeing with someone else on a particular point.
In my view, being in agreement is just as polarizing as disagreeing, but at least agreeing doesn't violate the rules, whereas insults certainly do.
Gnu hasn't made a single post where he insulted anyone, nor has he used any ad hominem tactics.
I don't see any links provided here; it just feels like a sweeping fabrication. Meanwhile, he actually provided a substantial collection of evidence clearly showing the insults and ad hominem attacks, along with numerous accusations of people being "clones"—all coming from the exact same people who level those same accusations against others. 🤦

And there we have it—this is exactly how you deal with people's private lives, and it characterizes your entire presence on this sub-forum...🤮
Of course, these aren't considered ad hominem arguments simply because they're coming from you. 🍿
But if someone happens to suspect that someone else is a clone, then that's apparently worth a firing squad. 🤦

I honestly think this thread is pointless and there's no reason to waste any more time here.
It looks like this is just another playground for you to vent, so it might be best to just let you talk to yourself. It might serve as another outlet for you, and since you seem to have so many of them, perhaps you'll finally achieve some actual results.

You are the one breaking the rules by posting links and spreading lies and idiocy that pose a genuine risk to human health.

Elizabeth Jackson said:No, It feels like you all are actively working to cause harm. By attacking and insulting people who are simply trying to discuss methods that could actually help others, you’re undermining the very purpose of these discussions.

The sub-forum is... Alternative Treatment—and let’s be honest, we all know exactly what we’re debating here. We’re talking about everything that falls outside the bounds of mainstream medicine.

There are clearly defined rules for this sub-forum, and... Honestly, none of those people you're constantly coming after are actually breaking a single one of those rules.Unlike you, who seems to take pleasure in insulting people just because they want to discuss the topic at hand, I prefer a bit more decorum.
Honestly, even the fact that you felt the need to use bold text here just proves my point—you simply can't help yourself from resorting to insults. It seems like it's just part of your nature at this point.
So, does someone who constantly resorts to insults actually have good intentions? It’s an interesting question, I suppose. I find myself wondering if there's a hidden layer of benevolence behind that kind of abrasive behavior—like they think they're being "honest" or "tough" for your own good. But honestly, maybe that's just wishful thinking on our part. It’s hard to say for sure without knowing what makes them tick. 🍿

Not a single one.

Not a single one.

He wasn't exactly trolling the thread; rather, he was issuing a warning—and one that he backed up with plenty of solid examples. Regarding the blatant rule violations on the Alternative subforum. As we’ve observed, the most frequent issues involve crude insults and ad hominem attacks.

The posts being quoted don't seem to be edited or taken out of context to me, though the insults within them are certainly plain to see.
This is just your classic example of cheap, kindergarten-level insinuation... I mean, we can all see exactly what you said, and there’s really no excuse for the nasty insults you’ve been hurling at people.
If you disagree with someone, you can say so quite politely instead of responding to everything with the crudest possible language.

That is precisely why I’ve put you on my ignore list, along with a few others—it's because of the constant insults.
And honestly, you act this way because there isn't anyone here to hold you accountable.
Once moderation actually starts happening (if that ever happens), I’ll take everyone off my ignore list and I will gladly engage with you; then you won't be able to hide behind this behavior, and I'll just dismantle your points with actual arguments until you lose your cool and resort to insults again. 🙂

And please, don't ask me again why I'm not answering when you're on my ignore list. You've been on this forum far too long to be asking that, and I’ve already explained that on threads under active moderation, I will engage with anyone on my ignore list if I happen to notice their post.

I have no idea who you're referring to or by what right you'd label a female member that way, but apparently, you just can't help yourself from being insulting here either. 🤮

If someone spoke to you like that, or in the manner that Gnu quoted, you'd probably be wailing and whining about it across every thread for two months, telling your neighbors, and I doubt even the local senior center would be spared.
However, we've all just accepted that this is simply who you are, and since you can't be any different, we've long since Googled your insults, which serve as nothing more than proof that you've completely lost your temper due to a total lack of actual arguments.
But hey, I suppose these quotes are useful for the official records, so the moderators can see how things actually stand on the unmoderated Alternative PDF. ☕

Your whole approach seems centered on attacking and insulting this individual and several others.🤦
Personally, I don't see any issue with someone agreeing with someone else on a particular point.
In my view, being in agreement is just as polarizing as disagreeing, but at least agreeing doesn't violate the rules, whereas insults certainly do.
Gnu hasn't made a single post where he insulted anyone, nor has he used any ad hominem tactics.
I don't see any links provided here; it just feels like a sweeping fabrication. Meanwhile, he actually provided a substantial collection of evidence clearly showing the insults and ad hominem attacks, along with numerous accusations of people being "clones"—all coming from the exact same people who level those same accusations against others. 🤦

And there we have it—this is exactly how you deal with people's private lives, and it characterizes your entire presence on this sub-forum...🤮
Of course, these aren't considered ad hominem arguments simply because they're coming from you. 🍿
But if someone happens to suspect that someone else is a clone, then that's apparently worth a firing squad. 🤦

I honestly think this thread is pointless and there's no reason to waste any more time here.
It looks like this is just another playground for you to vent, so it might be best to just let you talk to yourself. It might serve as another outlet for you, and since you seem to have so many of them, perhaps you'll finally achieve some actual results.

It's all very sweet how you defend your own ass, but "numerous examples of cures" is not the same thing as saying "I know six people who were cured of cancer because they ate Raw Food." That is just pure stupidity.
And that’s exactly what I expected from you and your little millennial crowd.

Elizabeth Jackson said:No, It feels like you all are actively working to cause harm. By attacking and insulting people who are simply trying to discuss methods that could actually help others, you’re undermining the very purpose of these discussions.

The sub-forum is... Alternative Treatment—and let’s be honest, we all know exactly what we’re debating here. We’re talking about everything that falls outside the bounds of mainstream medicine.

There are clearly defined rules for this sub-forum, and... Honestly, none of those people you're constantly coming after are actually breaking a single one of those rules.Unlike you, who seems to take pleasure in insulting people just because they want to discuss the topic at hand, I prefer a bit more decorum.
Honestly, even the fact that you felt the need to use bold text here just proves my point—you simply can't help yourself from resorting to insults. It seems like it's just part of your nature at this point.
So, does someone who constantly resorts to insults actually have good intentions? It’s an interesting question, I suppose. I find myself wondering if there's a hidden layer of benevolence behind that kind of abrasive behavior—like they think they're being "honest" or "tough" for your own good. But honestly, maybe that's just wishful thinking on our part. It’s hard to say for sure without knowing what makes them tick. 🍿

Not a single one.

Not a single one.

He wasn't exactly trolling the thread; rather, he was issuing a warning—and one that he backed up with plenty of solid examples. Regarding the blatant rule violations on the Alternative subforum. As we’ve observed, the most frequent issues involve crude insults and ad hominem attacks.

The posts being quoted don't seem to be edited or taken out of context to me, though the insults within them are certainly plain to see.
This is just your classic example of cheap, kindergarten-level insinuation... I mean, we can all see exactly what you said, and there’s really no excuse for the nasty insults you’ve been hurling at people.
If you disagree with someone, you can say so quite politely instead of responding to everything with the crudest possible language.

That is precisely why I’ve put you on my ignore list, along with a few others—it's because of the constant insults.
And honestly, you act this way because there isn't anyone here to hold you accountable.
Once moderation actually starts happening (if that ever happens), I’ll take everyone off my ignore list and I will gladly engage with you; then you won't be able to hide behind this behavior, and I'll just dismantle your points with actual arguments until you lose your cool and resort to insults again. 🙂

And please, don't ask me again why I'm not answering when you're on my ignore list. You've been on this forum far too long to be asking that, and I’ve already explained that on threads under active moderation, I will engage with anyone on my ignore list if I happen to notice their post.

I have no idea who you're referring to or by what right you'd label a female member that way, but apparently, you just can't help yourself from being insulting here either. 🤮

If someone spoke to you like that, or in the manner that Gnu quoted, you'd probably be wailing and whining about it across every thread for two months, telling your neighbors, and I doubt even the local senior center would be spared.
However, we've all just accepted that this is simply who you are, and since you can't be any different, we've long since Googled your insults, which serve as nothing more than proof that you've completely lost your temper due to a total lack of actual arguments.
But hey, I suppose these quotes are useful for the official records, so the moderators can see how things actually stand on the unmoderated Alternative PDF. ☕

Your whole approach seems centered on attacking and insulting this individual and several others.🤦
Personally, I don't see any issue with someone agreeing with someone else on a particular point.
In my view, being in agreement is just as polarizing as disagreeing, but at least agreeing doesn't violate the rules, whereas insults certainly do.
Gnu hasn't made a single post where he insulted anyone, nor has he used any ad hominem tactics.
I don't see any links provided here; it just feels like a sweeping fabrication. Meanwhile, he actually provided a substantial collection of evidence clearly showing the insults and ad hominem attacks, along with numerous accusations of people being "clones"—all coming from the exact same people who level those same accusations against others. 🤦

And there we have it—this is exactly how you deal with people's private lives, and it characterizes your entire presence on this sub-forum...🤮
Of course, these aren't considered ad hominem arguments simply because they're coming from you. 🍿
But if someone happens to suspect that someone else is a clone, then that's apparently worth a firing squad. 🤦

I honestly think this thread is pointless and there's no reason to waste any more time here.
It looks like this is just another playground for you to vent, so it might be best to just let you talk to yourself. It might serve as another outlet for you, and since you seem to have so many of them, perhaps you'll finally achieve some actual results.

Elizabeth Jackson, you absolute fraud and self-proclaimed guru—honestly, I’m trying to find a way to say this without being unnecessarily harsh, but there’s just no way around it: you’re lying through your teeth. You actually went ahead and put me on ignore just because I had the nerve to call you out and show you that the stuff you’re linking isn't even remotely true. It’s pathetic, really, how you keep peddling nothing but pure nonsense and blatant misinformation from those conspiracy websites as if they were gospel.
All of this went down while the moderators were busy babysitting the threads.

Elizabeth Jackson said:No, It feels like you all are actively working to cause harm. By attacking and insulting people who are simply trying to discuss methods that could actually help others, you’re undermining the very purpose of these discussions.

The sub-forum is... Alternative Treatment—and let’s be honest, we all know exactly what we’re debating here. We’re talking about everything that falls outside the bounds of mainstream medicine.

There are clearly defined rules for this sub-forum, and... Honestly, none of those people you're constantly coming after are actually breaking a single one of those rules.Unlike you, who seems to take pleasure in insulting people just because they want to discuss the topic at hand, I prefer a bit more decorum.
Honestly, even the fact that you felt the need to use bold text here just proves my point—you simply can't help yourself from resorting to insults. It seems like it's just part of your nature at this point.
So, does someone who constantly resorts to insults actually have good intentions? It’s an interesting question, I suppose. I find myself wondering if there's a hidden layer of benevolence behind that kind of abrasive behavior—like they think they're being "honest" or "tough" for your own good. But honestly, maybe that's just wishful thinking on our part. It’s hard to say for sure without knowing what makes them tick. 🍿

Not a single one.

Not a single one.

He wasn't exactly trolling the thread; rather, he was issuing a warning—and one that he backed up with plenty of solid examples. Regarding the blatant rule violations on the Alternative subforum. As we’ve observed, the most frequent issues involve crude insults and ad hominem attacks.

The posts being quoted don't seem to be edited or taken out of context to me, though the insults within them are certainly plain to see.
This is just your classic example of cheap, kindergarten-level insinuation... I mean, we can all see exactly what you said, and there’s really no excuse for the nasty insults you’ve been hurling at people.
If you disagree with someone, you can say so quite politely instead of responding to everything with the crudest possible language.

That is precisely why I’ve put you on my ignore list, along with a few others—it's because of the constant insults.
And honestly, you act this way because there isn't anyone here to hold you accountable.
Once moderation actually starts happening (if that ever happens), I’ll take everyone off my ignore list and I will gladly engage with you; then you won't be able to hide behind this behavior, and I'll just dismantle your points with actual arguments until you lose your cool and resort to insults again. 🙂

And please, don't ask me again why I'm not answering when you're on my ignore list. You've been on this forum far too long to be asking that, and I’ve already explained that on threads under active moderation, I will engage with anyone on my ignore list if I happen to notice their post.

I have no idea who you're referring to or by what right you'd label a female member that way, but apparently, you just can't help yourself from being insulting here either. 🤮

If someone spoke to you like that, or in the manner that Gnu quoted, you'd probably be wailing and whining about it across every thread for two months, telling your neighbors, and I doubt even the local senior center would be spared.
However, we've all just accepted that this is simply who you are, and since you can't be any different, we've long since Googled your insults, which serve as nothing more than proof that you've completely lost your temper due to a total lack of actual arguments.
But hey, I suppose these quotes are useful for the official records, so the moderators can see how things actually stand on the unmoderated Alternative PDF. ☕

Your whole approach seems centered on attacking and insulting this individual and several others.🤦
Personally, I don't see any issue with someone agreeing with someone else on a particular point.
In my view, being in agreement is just as polarizing as disagreeing, but at least agreeing doesn't violate the rules, whereas insults certainly do.
Gnu hasn't made a single post where he insulted anyone, nor has he used any ad hominem tactics.
I don't see any links provided here; it just feels like a sweeping fabrication. Meanwhile, he actually provided a substantial collection of evidence clearly showing the insults and ad hominem attacks, along with numerous accusations of people being "clones"—all coming from the exact same people who level those same accusations against others. 🤦

And there we have it—this is exactly how you deal with people's private lives, and it characterizes your entire presence on this sub-forum...🤮
Of course, these aren't considered ad hominem arguments simply because they're coming from you. 🍿
But if someone happens to suspect that someone else is a clone, then that's apparently worth a firing squad. 🤦

I honestly think this thread is pointless and there's no reason to waste any more time here.
It looks like this is just another playground for you to vent, so it might be best to just let you talk to yourself. It might serve as another outlet for you, and since you seem to have so many of them, perhaps you'll finally achieve some actual results.

Total lies, and honestly, they should have explained it a hell of a lot better than that.

Elizabeth Jackson said:No, It feels like you all are actively working to cause harm. By attacking and insulting people who are simply trying to discuss methods that could actually help others, you’re undermining the very purpose of these discussions.

The sub-forum is... Alternative Treatment—and let’s be honest, we all know exactly what we’re debating here. We’re talking about everything that falls outside the bounds of mainstream medicine.

There are clearly defined rules for this sub-forum, and... Honestly, none of those people you're constantly coming after are actually breaking a single one of those rules.Unlike you, who seems to take pleasure in insulting people just because they want to discuss the topic at hand, I prefer a bit more decorum.
Honestly, even the fact that you felt the need to use bold text here just proves my point—you simply can't help yourself from resorting to insults. It seems like it's just part of your nature at this point.
So, does someone who constantly resorts to insults actually have good intentions? It’s an interesting question, I suppose. I find myself wondering if there's a hidden layer of benevolence behind that kind of abrasive behavior—like they think they're being "honest" or "tough" for your own good. But honestly, maybe that's just wishful thinking on our part. It’s hard to say for sure without knowing what makes them tick. 🍿

Not a single one.

Not a single one.

He wasn't exactly trolling the thread; rather, he was issuing a warning—and one that he backed up with plenty of solid examples. Regarding the blatant rule violations on the Alternative subforum. As we’ve observed, the most frequent issues involve crude insults and ad hominem attacks.

The posts being quoted don't seem to be edited or taken out of context to me, though the insults within them are certainly plain to see.
This is just your classic example of cheap, kindergarten-level insinuation... I mean, we can all see exactly what you said, and there’s really no excuse for the nasty insults you’ve been hurling at people.
If you disagree with someone, you can say so quite politely instead of responding to everything with the crudest possible language.

That is precisely why I’ve put you on my ignore list, along with a few others—it's because of the constant insults.
And honestly, you act this way because there isn't anyone here to hold you accountable.
Once moderation actually starts happening (if that ever happens), I’ll take everyone off my ignore list and I will gladly engage with you; then you won't be able to hide behind this behavior, and I'll just dismantle your points with actual arguments until you lose your cool and resort to insults again. 🙂

And please, don't ask me again why I'm not answering when you're on my ignore list. You've been on this forum far too long to be asking that, and I’ve already explained that on threads under active moderation, I will engage with anyone on my ignore list if I happen to notice their post.

I have no idea who you're referring to or by what right you'd label a female member that way, but apparently, you just can't help yourself from being insulting here either. 🤮

If someone spoke to you like that, or in the manner that Gnu quoted, you'd probably be wailing and whining about it across every thread for two months, telling your neighbors, and I doubt even the local senior center would be spared.
However, we've all just accepted that this is simply who you are, and since you can't be any different, we've long since Googled your insults, which serve as nothing more than proof that you've completely lost your temper due to a total lack of actual arguments.
But hey, I suppose these quotes are useful for the official records, so the moderators can see how things actually stand on the unmoderated Alternative PDF. ☕

Your whole approach seems centered on attacking and insulting this individual and several others.🤦
Personally, I don't see any issue with someone agreeing with someone else on a particular point.
In my view, being in agreement is just as polarizing as disagreeing, but at least agreeing doesn't violate the rules, whereas insults certainly do.
Gnu hasn't made a single post where he insulted anyone, nor has he used any ad hominem tactics.
I don't see any links provided here; it just feels like a sweeping fabrication. Meanwhile, he actually provided a substantial collection of evidence clearly showing the insults and ad hominem attacks, along with numerous accusations of people being "clones"—all coming from the exact same people who level those same accusations against others. 🤦

And there we have it—this is exactly how you deal with people's private lives, and it characterizes your entire presence on this sub-forum...🤮
Of course, these aren't considered ad hominem arguments simply because they're coming from you. 🍿
But if someone happens to suspect that someone else is a clone, then that's apparently worth a firing squad. 🤦

I honestly think this thread is pointless and there's no reason to waste any more time here.
It looks like this is just another playground for you to vent, so it might be best to just let you talk to yourself. It might serve as another outlet for you, and since you seem to have so many of them, perhaps you'll finally achieve some actual results.

But honestly, from what I can gather, they aren't even sending out text messages to anyone yet. 😬

From what I can see and read from Elizabeth Jackson, our resident doctor and self-proclaimed guru seems a little on edge lately; I’m starting to think the cops finally showed up at her door.
To wrap things up, I really have to give a shout-out to Elizabeth Jackson. Honestly, watching her work and reading her posts is nothing short of a pure, unadulterated pleasure—she’s basically a total legend and a guru in her own right.

Just a quick word regarding GNU. Honestly, someone who actually believes carrot juice is basically a substitute for human blood has absolutely no business lecturing anyone else on what constitutes a "constructive" post...
If you’re having trouble grasping my point, let me lay it out for you even more simply.
Every single post I make that calls out the absolute mountain of nonsense being spewed by you pseudo-alternative types is, by definition, a constructive post.
So, GNU, if you follow that logic, it means every single post we write here is constructive.

Honestly, I wouldn't even waste my breath on this. In my book, he just doesn't have the mental bandwidth to keep track of who's actually posting what, so in his eyes, everyone is just some mindless clone. Just look at the absolute circus he pulled last time when he tried to claim I was out here copy-pasting posts, only for it to turn out he was the one doing the exact same thing before I even started 😬.
If you look at it from a different angle, we’re talking about a GNU here, and let's be real, their capabilities are pretty damn limited...

Linda Harris44 said:...

Ethan Brooks59’s signature is straight-up insulting other users by calling them ignorant and malicious, which is clearly just a way to bait people into an argument.
Is a signature like that even allowed, let alone appropriate?

And you think this isn't working? How exactly are you supposed to describe someone who actually claims the human body synthesizes Vitamin C from nothing but water and carbohydrates? Or how do you label a guy asserting that, at a molecular level, human blood is basically identical to carrot juice? There isn't any other way to put it than calling him an idiot.

If you can't see what's happening here, we can just look at those infamous signatures. The first one was posted by some self-proclaimed medical guru and "expert." Ethan Brooks59’s signature was nothing more than a direct response to that guy's nonsense.

If you honestly believe—and I say this with total confidence—that this "medical guru" isn't a complete hack, then why does he have his own ignore list? Why doesn't he defend his ridiculous claims with actual facts or logic?
Personally, I would love nothing more than to hear this "guru" explain the biological mechanism of how Vitamin C is produced in the human body. Since he seems to be stumped, maybe you could step in and explain the actual science behind Vitamin C synthesis in humans?

The situation is perfectly clear to anyone paying attention. That signature used by the "expert" served no purpose other than to insult the people who had already exposed him as a charlatan, a fraud, and a dangerous hack who spreads lies that pose a genuine risk to public health.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Look, I honestly think things are incredibly straightforward and obvious, and if you just take a second to actually look at the situation instead of overcomplicating it, you'll see that... The only real issue here boils down to one thing: people are blatantly breaking the rules.
If we didn't have any moderation in place, this whole thing would be a complete disaster.

Elizabeth Jackson, you absolute fraud and self-proclaimed health guru, you’re back at it again with the nonsense. Honestly, whenever you just post some basic smoothie recipes, everyone stays quiet because there isn't much to say, but the second you start preaching like some kind of prophet about how raw food is the ultimate cure-all and that nobody will ever get sick if they just follow your strict diet, that's when people finally lose their patience. It’s exhausting watching you act like an authority on wellness when it’s becoming painfully obvious that you don't even practice what you preach. You sit there lecturing us on the miraculous benefits of raw nutrition while you're actually out there eating cooked meals just like the rest of us, playing this ridiculous character for attention.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Since nobody has any clue how much longer the moderation gap is going to last, if we actually want to de-escalate this whole mess, everyone needs to get on the same page and commit to following the rules of the forums and sub-forums, which is exactly why I think your initiative is such a damn good move. 👍

Look, if you want to post your little blender recipes and expect anyone to actually engage with them, go right ahead—nobody is going to comment on them anyway. Honestly, I couldn't care less what you’re throwing in a cup or how you choose to fuel your body. But the second someone starts peddling those ridiculous, half-baked lies about "miracle cures" and health transformations, suddenly everyone feels the need to jump in and start typing. It's exhausting.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Let’s look at an absolute extreme scenario here—imagine if everyone just collectively decided to stop sharing any links or info regarding alternative healing methods and simply left people struggling with illnesses to fend for themselves. If someone actually comes to you looking for advice on how to manage a condition, we would just tell them straight up that we can't help because anything outside the realm of mainstream medicine is nothing more than dangerous quackery, and they can just figure it out on their own for all we care.
The Alternative subforum is nothing more than a hollow gesture, existing purely as a pro forma formality that serves absolutely no actual purpose. 😵

Look, Elizabeth Jackson, you aren't exactly playing the genius here, acting like some kind of medical authority or a high-and-mighty guru, and frankly, you're just being dishonest. Nobody in this thread actually asked for your unsolicited lectures on how to cure Crohnov or tackle cancer. You just keep aggressively pushing these "miracle cures" as if we haven't heard it all before. If anyone even breathed a word about cancer, it was strictly a specific inquiry regarding cannabis oil, nothing more.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Look, let’s get one thing straight: linking someone else's random internet anecdotes to actual reality isn't even the real issue here. It’s completely irrelevant to bring up those sketchy, pseudo-medical claims floating around online that have zero connection to legitimate practice anyway. Even if we were to entertain the absurd idea that those baseless stories actually held some weight or could somehow pose a genuine threat to anyone, it still wouldn't change the fact that they aren't the core problem we should be discussing. Honestly, the Department of Health should have stepped in and shut those sites down ages ago, or at least blocked access to them entirely. It’s beyond frustrating that they haven't acted yet. 🤷

I honestly have to wonder what’s going to happen when some poor soul actually decides to follow your medical advice regarding Crohn's disease; are you, or the owner of this forum, going to end up getting sued into oblivion when things go south?
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Ethan Barrett22 said:Look, I haven't linked any kind of cure or anything remotely like that for a whole month now (somewhere around there)

No, you haven't, because you got spooked—you were so terrified that you even went and changed your signature.

Ethan Barrett22 said:And regardless, every single one of my posts over the last month has been relentlessly torn apart, with me receiving nothing but vile insults from the same handful of people who clearly have nothing better to do than harass me.
And for what purpose?

Because you have a blatant tendency toward spreading falsehoods and outright lies.

Ethan Barrett22 said:All of this just goes to show how much these parrot-like ramblings about "quackery" are actually an attempt to degrade the topic so much that people will feel okay saying it's fine to eat an apple after a burger once in a while. 🤦
Then that (supposedly) wouldn't put anyone at risk... 🤦

Elizabeth, you "quack," and you "guru," everything degraded the exact moment you refused to distance yourself from those stupid, health-threatening links we kept warning you about. Instead of facing the arguments, you ran away and hid behind the ignore list, which only proves how incapable you are of defending the very things you link to and write about.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Look, if what was posted there is truly such a massive trigger for him that he’s losing sleep over it—or if he genuinely believes someone’s health is being put at risk—then nobody is stopping him from taking it up directly with the person who actually published it via that link, rather than just venting at the person who shared it.

Furthermore, he’d absolutely have to prove to the author of that page that such posts are actually endangering anyone's health.

No, hold on, Elizabeth Jackson, you pseudo-doctor and self-appointed guru, what you're saying is complete nonsense. Let me ask you something: if you stumbled upon some article on one of those shady fringe websites claiming that having sex with children cures cancer, would you actually share it? If you did share something like that, you'd end up behind bars right alongside the idiot who wrote it.
The reality is simple: the person spreading the garbage is just as guilty as the person creating it. Those bottom-of-the-barrel websites you keep linking to lead people astray—people like you, who clearly lack both a solid education and any sense of basic morality.
Just take a quick look at the very text you linked, which claims you can cure cancer by eating about ten raw apple seeds. It is incredibly easy to verify who actually conducted any "research" regarding those ten apple seeds. That "researcher" is nothing but a charlatan, and not a single bit of his "work" has ever been scientifically validated. Even the man himself kept shifting his story constantly. You see, Elizabeth Jackson, if you had bothered to actually look at what you're linking to, you’d realize you're just peddling a stupid, fraudulent text designed to lie to people who are fighting serious illnesses.