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Clones on Alternative and the question of all questions: Am I a clone?

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Participants Sandra Kern37Brenda Gonzalez12Peter Petersonbriskwalker10Arthur Smith15urbangull90Linda Moore51Daniel Davis40Elizabeth Jacksonstormyrider28Jessica Morris6velvetmoose9
Sandra Kern37 Sandra Kern37 MemberOP
35 messages
joined Aug 2021
#1 ·
Since it seems like someone on the Alternative subforum takes it upon themselves to jump out of the woodwork every five minutes just to flag me as some kind of sockpuppet, I’d like to ask
the moderators for a quick favor:

Could you please verify whether I actually have any other accounts besides this one (the alleged "clone") that I'm using here on Alternative?

As for the people who have spent the last six months shamelessly lying and slandering me—those who resort to calling me a clone simply because they lack any actual arguments—well, I don't exactly have the spare time right now to upload every single one of their lies, but expect that to happen within the next 24 hours. In the meantime, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't close this thread, if at all possible; my priority right now is finally putting to rest these ridiculous claims and proving once and for all that I am not a clone.

Thanks in advance.😁
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
45 messages
joined Mar 2017
#2 ·
I’m jumping in here to back this request! I’m looking for some official confirmation: are my supposed "clones" @Monism, @HepokS2, @Linda Moore51, @Arthur Smith15/">@@Arthur Smith15, @nsvoj, @antet, and @urbangull90/">@@urbangull90 actually real people?
Basically, for a few months now, this same little group (Daniel Davis40, Lorelei, stormyrider28, and Elizabeth Jackson) has been relentlessly trolling threads, claiming we're all just one single person running multiple profiles. It would be absolutely wonderful if we could finally clear the air on this once and for all!
Peter Peterson Peter Peterson Member
14 messages
joined Jan 2019
#3 ·
You aren't some clone; you're just a 🙂
briskwalker10 briskwalker10 Active Member
121 messages
joined Oct 2020
#4 ·
Psalm 94:23 — They’ll pay for their own lawlessness; He’ll wipe them out with their own malice—Yahweh, our God, will finish them...
Arthur Smith15 Arthur Smith15 Member
41 messages
joined Nov 2021
#5 ·
Where have you been hiding, Gnu? Remind me—whose clone am I supposed to be? Please, just settle my mind and write it down right here... 😁
urbangull90 urbangull90 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jul 2005
#6 ·
Am I just some clone of Brenda Gonzalez12 or what?

The suspense is actually killing me!

😬

San Francisco
Linda Moore51 Linda Moore51 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Mar 2017
#7 ·
It’s honestly hilarious how this whole pseudo-Alternative crowd just stays dead silent. To me, that’s a massive red flag regarding the kind of clones they’re actually typing about, and it’s blindingly obvious they're lying through their teeth. You can also pretty much conclude that they’re terrified of any actual cult verification, because if they actually faced a fact-check, most of that pseudo-Alternative mob would be sent straight to the Ban Corner.

But since I’m already on a roll here, I might as well put it in writing one more time.
Elizabeth Jackson, you self-proclaimed doctor and "guru," do you agree to these terms: if it’s ever proven that Arthur Smith15 and I are nothing but clones, we get a permanent ban, but if we aren't, then you get the permanent ban instead?

Or are you just going to keep being a pathological liar...
And one more thing, Elizabeth Jackson, you so-called expert and guru, why did you go ahead and delete that part of your signature where you were insulting Monty?
Sandra Kern37 Sandra Kern37 MemberOP
35 messages
joined Aug 2021
#8 ·
They’re too busy hurling insults over at Alternative, knowing full well they can get away with whatever they want there without consequence.

Take, for instance, what Peter Peterson sent my way today:

Peter Peterson said:To keep going, you're nothing more than some attention-starved old lady with far too much free time, desperate for a scrap of validation that none of these forum users can give you—whether it's because they're following the site rules or simply because they actually possess a shred of common sense.

.
So there it is.

.

Now get lost, you absolute wreck.

Notice how this genius even went out of his way to address me in the feminine.
Arthur Smith15 Arthur Smith15 Member
41 messages
joined Nov 2021
#9 ·
Just look at Bonecrusher’s pathetic whining and constant lamentations over in the 😁
. It’s no wonder they’ve gone quiet and are laying low now.
Daniel Davis40 Daniel Davis40 Member
31 messages
joined Oct 2015
#10 ·
Jerry White29 said:It’s honestly fascinating how the pseudo-alternative crowd just stays silent. It’s a dead giveaway regarding the quality of the clones they're posting about—it’s blatantly obvious they’re lying. Plus, you could easily conclude they’re terrified of a clan audit, because if there actually were one, most of that pseudo-alternative lot would be sent straight to the Ban Corner.

And apparently, your ability to draw conclusions has been hitting a bit of a slump lately, too.

1. Brenda Gonzalez12 is lying (as usual)—because I never once claimed that all the users mentioned were a single person, and I certainly haven't been trolling with that angle for "months."

2. Why on earth would an accusation of cloning be grounds for a ban?

3. If someone isn't posting from the same device or the same IP address, how are the forum owners even supposed to know if they're clones or not? Therefore, any "proof" offered here is completely worthless.

Maybe that’s why the pseudo-alternative crowd hasn't spoken up—they'd rather jump on nonsense and play the victim against someone who is, frankly, an embarrassment to the moderators for not being permanently banned already, given what he's written. Some people actually have lives and don't intend to spend their entire existence babysitting a forum... and it's not because they're scared.
Arthur Smith15 Arthur Smith15 Member
41 messages
joined Nov 2021
#11 ·
Nicole Johnson20 said:(...)

So, let me get this straight: you're just some lucky little thing that a guru hand-picked to write up some orderly little report? 😁
Sandra Kern37 Sandra Kern37 MemberOP
35 messages
joined Aug 2021
#12 ·
1. Oh, really? Then what exactly am I looking at here?

2. Because let’s be honest, this is nothing more than malicious slander, specifically engineered to drag down anyone who actually used logic to dismantle your little clique. Back when the discussions about clones were actually gaining traction, you all—and especially you—just played the troll to shut the whole thing down, since your goal isn't to prove that Brenda Gonzalez12, Monism, Plant, urbangull90, Arthur Smith15, Linda Moore51, or I aren't clones. It’s because once someone finally proves it, you won't have any more excuses left to hide behind. And then, you'll be completely exposed.

3. You certainly seem to know a suspicious amount about how cloning conspiracies are covered up. 😁 I can't help but wonder...

And once again, you’re acting like you’re the one stepping in to call out what you label as "nonsense," playing the victim perfectly. Look, if it bothers you so much, then just stop posting in the thread altogether—but we both know that isn't the plan. Your actual objective is to troll the discussion into silence so that the truth about who is actually a clone and who isn't stays buried forever.
Linda Moore51 Linda Moore51 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Mar 2017
#13 ·
Nicole Johnson20 said:And honestly, it looks like your conclusions have been running a little short on substance lately, too.

😬Oh, come on now, give me a break. If you’re looking for someone to blame, don't point that finger at me—I’ve been nothing but civil in this conversation. And please, let's not even get started on bringing up "conclusions" or "logic," as if those things actually mean anything in a discussion like this.
Nicole Johnson20 said:Brenda Gonzalez12 is lying through her teeth again, which is pretty much par for the course with her, because at no point did I ever claim that all those users were actually just one person, and I certainly haven't been out here trolling anyone by pretending that was the case for months on end.

Take a look at the top of this thread and see who actually started this whole thing. I’m pretty sure Brenda Gonzalez12 was most likely making a dig at the fact that, at one point, Elizabeth Jackson—who thinks she’s some kind of medical expert and absolute guru—was claiming that the two of us are clones. Even she went as far as to write herself that we definitely aren't clones because our writing styles are nothing alike.

Nicole Johnson20 said:So, I’m sitting here wondering why on earth anyone would think that an accusation of cloning is grounds for a ban. It’s honestly absurd when you really stop to think about it. We’re talking about people making wild claims and pointing fingers without any actual proof, and suddenly, that's enough to get someone kicked out? It just doesn't pass the smell test. You can't just throw around heavy accusations like that—especially something as ridiculous as "cloning"—and expect the mods to just swoop in and shut everything down without a second thought. If we start banning people based on nothing more than baseless finger-pointing and unsubstantiated rumors, then we might as well just close the whole forum down right now. It sets a terrible precedent where anyone can weaponize an accusation just to silence someone they don't like, and frankly, it's a joke.

Look, go back and actually read what I wrote. That was my formal proposal to Elizabeth Jackson—you know, our resident "medical expert" and self-proclaimed guru—but of course, she shot it down immediately because she knows damn well I’m telling the truth. And just to set the record straight for anyone confused: Arthur Smith15 and I aren't clones, so stop acting like we're reading from the same script.
Nicole Johnson20 said:If they aren't posting from the exact same device or using the same IP address, how on earth are the forum owners supposed to figure out if they’re just clones of one another? It’s a total non-starter. In this scenario, the whole concept of "verification" becomes completely meaningless.

Look, from everything I’ve gathered, there isn't actually a legal limit on how many connections you can run at once—that's just the way the law stands. But don't let that fool you for a second; just because the law doesn't forbid it doesn't mean the ISPs haven't quietly rewritten the rules behind your back.
I think you’re dead wrong about this.
Nicole Johnson20 said:Maybe that’s exactly why the pseudo-alternative crowd hasn't said a word about this. They’re too busy obsessing over nonsense and playing the victim card whenever some lunatic starts acting out—honestly, it’s an absolute embarrassment to the moderators that they haven't slapped a permanent ban on this guy yet, given the garbage he’s been posting. Look, some people actually have lives to lead; they aren't planning to spend every waking second babysitting this forum... and it isn't because they're intimidated.

Look, I’ve never even tolerated you being part of this pseudo-alternative crowd...
I just can't bring myself to agree with you. In my view, peddling total nonsense is incredibly dangerous. Now, there is certain nonsense that Peter Peterson puts out—whether he’s stone-cold sober or as drunk as he is today—but that isn't the issue here, and it doesn't really impact anyone else.
But when you start seeing articles claiming "miraculous" cancer cures achieved in just a few months by consuming ten or so raw apple seeds, we are entering dangerous territory.
You know perfectly well that I don't care what anyone else eats or how they live their lives. I even asked you myself how your energy levels have been since you switched to a raw food diet. Truly, someone else's menu means nothing to me. What bothers me are these fake magical healings and people demanding scientific proof for the efficacy of raw diets while simultaneously spitting in the face of actual science.
And please, show some decency.

Elizabeth Jackson, why did you change your signature? Don't tell me you actually got scared?
Daniel Davis40 Daniel Davis40 Member
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joined Oct 2015
#14 ·
Jerry White29 said:😬Oh, come on—don't even go there. If you ask me, I’ve been nothing but civil here... let's not start lecturing me about "conclusions" or "logic" now.

Look, whether people want to admit it or not, any post worth its salt—especially those that aren't just mindless filler—ultimately boils down to one thing: pure logic and sound reasoning.

Take a look at who actually started this thread... Brenda Gonzalez12 was probably referring to that moment when Elizabeth Jackson—acting like some kind of self-appointed medical guru—claimed that the two of us were clones. Even she admitted later that we couldn't possibly be clones, since our writing styles are completely different.

I have no idea what he was likely referring to—all I see is my own name sitting there in parentheses (and, mind you, right at the very front of them). 😍So, let me get this straight—you’re actually claiming that I’ve been going on for months about how everyone mentioned here (that includes you, Sus Ferox, and several people I don't even recognize) is just one single individual? Give me a break.

Go ahead and read what I wrote again. That was my actual proposal to Elizabeth Jackson—the self-proclaimed doctor and "guru"—but of course, he shot it down because he knows damn well I’m telling the truth. Arthur Smith15 and I aren't clones, for heaven's sake.

Look, that’s between you guys—I have no intention of getting involved in that mess.

As far as I know, there aren't any legal restrictions on having multiple connections—that’s just how the law stands—but don't go thinking that means ISPs have actually changed their rules. They haven't.
I think you're mistaken.

Look, I’m no tech expert—this isn't exactly my area of expertise—but here’s the bottom line: if someone is running two different phones on two separate networks just to maintain two distinct clones—one for each persona—are you actually suggesting that forum admins could reliably flag them as a single user?

Look, I never tolerated you being part of this pseudo-alternative brotherhood to begin with...

Honestly, I have no idea who decided to just drag my name into this mess without asking—I only realized what was happening when I saw I’d been tagged in this thread.

I have to disagree with you there. In my view, spreading pure nonsense is actually incredibly dangerous. Look, there’s certain grade of idiocy that Peter Peterson puts out—whether he's stone-cold sober or as drunk as he is today—but honestly, that’s beside the point. It doesn't change the fact that it still carries weight.
Look, when you start seeing these articles claiming people can magically cure cancer in just a few months simply by eating ten raw apple seeds a day—that isn't just misinformation; it’s straight-up dangerous.
Look, you know perfectly well that I couldn't care less what anyone else puts on their plate—honestly, it’s none of my business. I even asked you directly how your energy levels have been since you made the switch to raw food. I truly don't give a damn about someone else's diet. What actually gets under my skin—what really irritates me—is this blatant hypocrisy where people peddle fake "magical" cures while simultaneously demanding scientific proof for the benefits of raw eating, all while they spend their time spitting on actual science. It's infuriating.
And please, try to be civil.

You’ve mentioned twice now that it's "dangerous." Seriously? What exactly is dangerous about ten apple—or was it apricot? I can't quite remember—pits?

Personally, I don't believe that (ill) people are somehow cognitively impaired; everyone knows what works for them and what they won't tolerate. People have the right to choose. But fine, I get that this bothers some people—though I’ve never actually written like that. I just shared my own personal experiences while I was on raw food, both the good and the bad.

What really gets under my skin is this idea that the end justifies the means—it's being taken way too far here. There is a perfectly reasonable way to explain why you disagree with someone. You pointed out those non-existent scientific studies and other points you had, which, in my opinion, made for a much more effective statement than the rest of the group. Fine. But instead, people here have gone on a total witch hunt, inciting and justifying things that are frankly indefensible. In my view, they are doing more harm to the very cause they claim to support.
Elizabeth Jackson Elizabeth Jackson Member
38 messages
joined Nov 2012
#15 ·
Nicole Johnson20 said:2. I can't help but wonder—what exactly makes an accusation of cloning grounds for a ban? It seems like such a heavy charge to throw around. I mean, maybe there’s some nuance I’m missing, but it feels a bit extreme, doesn't it? Under what circumstances does a simple allegation like that actually warrant kicking someone off the platform? I guess I'm just trying to wrap my head around the logic behind it.

It seems someone is being cautious for a reason. It seems they’re attempting to sway people toward... It feels like we're dealing with a rule that doesn't actually exist. He’s actually operating under the assumption that some imaginary rule exists, just so he can go around expecting someone to get punished for it. 🤦

However, I haven't actually seen anyone around here post a link to... Forum Rules Where exactly would that even be visible? Someone's. I suppose there's a certain sense of suspicion hanging in the air lately. It’s hard to shake that feeling, though I can't quite put my finger on exactly where it's coming from. Maybe it's just me, or maybe there's something more to it than I'm realizing. Either way, things just feel... uncertain. And honestly, I’m just wondering if something like this even qualifies as a violation of any actual rules. I mean, I guess you could argue it, but it feels like a bit of a stretch, doesn't it? 🤷

And now, a rather somber and serious question for everyone:

If I were to do it all by myself... I suppose there’s a certain level of suspicion lingering in the air lately. It’s hard not to feel it, isn't it? Maybe it's just me, but everything feels a bit unsettled. I was wondering if anyone here actually knows whether having a clone account is enough to land you a strike or even a full-blown ban—though I suspect we’re talking about a permanent ban in that case. 🤦), So, what exactly should be the next move, then? I suppose we're left wondering where to go from here. I’m thinking about dealing with those users who most flagrantly violate our community guidelines—the ones who constantly target anyone with a differing opinion just to stir up trouble. It might be time to start utilizing the Ban Corner more aggressively for those specific individuals. Rough insults. I suppose you could say it’s much like... Here. Or... Here. Or perhaps... Right here. Are they properly cited and clearly introduced? 😕

Honestly, if you want to get under the skin of the supermods, just keep posting threads like this. It’s pretty obvious that this constant back-and-forth every other day is already starting to grate on their nerves... 🙄

I suppose you should just put your faith in them and trust that they’re doing everything in their power to find a moderator who is actually competent and fair. For now, maybe just try to relax and let it be. 🥳
stormyrider28 stormyrider28 Member
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joined Dec 2018
#16 ·
Nicole Johnson20 said:Maybe that’s exactly why the pseudo-alternative crowd hasn't said a word... they're probably too busy obsessing over nonsense and half-baked attempts at being relevant... Playing the victim when you’re actually the biggest embarrassment in the room... honestly, it's just pathetic... For the moderators... before they finally hit him with that permanent ban... Based on what he was writing about...

Yeah, it’s pretty funny how they're all suddenly getting so sensitive about someone questioning if a person is a clone... like, where was that energy before? They didn't seem to care one bit when they were all over Brenda Gonzalez12 with those nasty insults... totally different vibe now...So, Pravi Zivot was posting on the boards again, and honestly? Someone needs to tell him to shut his damn mouth... seriously. He’s out here insulting people left and right, calling family members of veterans absolute morons. It's just gross. And then he goes after Elizabeth Jackson, calling her a total psychopath and bringing up how her relatives are struggling with cancer... can you believe that? To top off the whole disgusting display, he even brings up her late father just to disrespect his memory. It’s low, even for someone like him... just completely unhinged behavior......so that's just fine, right?
Look, just so it doesn't seem like I'm just talking for the sake of talking...
Brenda Gonzalez12 said:When you watch your friends get hit by some nasty illnesses... when you see relatives just wasting away from cancer... man, it takes a toll. And honestly? You’re probably lying there in a grave yourself, dealing with the fallout of some "clueless father" figure who spent his whole life tearing you down with nothing but verbal abuse... 🤦
A total psycho at work...

And then you've got the ones just sucking his ass...
Man, you just gotta wonder about that guy... honestly...
.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:Go screw yourself, Monty. And you too, you absolute morons at home who were actually trying to "defend" me...
Is your brain seriously that fried...?
Can't you see which subforum you're even in?...

Or when the forum regulars... Leeni was being such a jerk, honestly... just making those nasty comments about how someone couldn't have kids... totally uncalled for...
Brenda Gonzalez12 said:And then... Just a total lack of brains mixed with all that trauma from losing your innocence... plus being unable to have kids... it's just a heavy mess... Man, you can really tell they're hitting a breaking point here... just total frustration bubbling over...

How does he even know if she can have kids? Is he some kind of doctor now, handing out medical diagnoses like candy right here on a public forum? Because if he isn't, then he’s basically doing exactly what he’s been calling everyone else out for—playing amateur medic... Or maybe he's just doing what he accused others of doing, which is digging up people's private business and airing it out for the whole internet to see... Or honestly, maybe he just likes being a jerk and insulting anyone who doesn't see things his way...
Daniel Davis40 Daniel Davis40 Member
31 messages
joined Oct 2015
#17 ·
stormyrider28 said:Or when the forum regulars... Leeni was being incredibly disrespectful—acting like they could just mock someone for being unable to have children. It’s absolutely uncalled for.

It wasn't me mocking you—it was Lorelei. And honestly, that whole attitude seems like a massive inferiority complex to me; the kind of thing people spout when they haven't actually accomplished anything in their own lives, so they feel the need to lecture others on how many kids someone "should" have to be considered a functional human being. It’s as if he thinks we’re still living in the 19th century—where women are expected to just churn out children simply to satisfy the outdated expectations of some old-fashioned folks back in a small Midwestern town, as if that should be their entire purpose for existing. He clearly hasn't checked a calendar lately. We live in the modern US; women actually have the agency and freedom to decide for themselves whether they want children, how many they want, and at what stage of their lives they want to have them. It isn't 1850.
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
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joined Mar 2017
#18 ·
stormyrider28 said:Yeah, it’s funny how they’re suddenly so offended by someone questioning if someone else is a clone, yet they didn't mind when Brenda Gonzalez12 was being insulted so brutally... the guy was out there calling forum members "Real Life" trash and telling them to go screw themselves, and even insulting the American veterans in his family as being mentally challenged.

Oh, you want to come at me, stormyrider28? Seriously? Especially when you keep dragging "American veterans" into this just to twist the context, you absolute jerk.

The "American veterans" she’s talking about now—the ones she mentioned—were actually the aggressors from Mexico (along with those folks from the Trebinje area), who were "just a few miles" away from the San Francisco battlefield. Did you even read the text? When asked a direct question about which side of the line she was on during the San Francisco Battlefield, she REFUSED to answer. Instead, she made up this whole story about how she (as a man!!!!) fought in the name of the local neighborhood against the rival faction, and once she was caught in that lie, she claimed to be from San Francisco, then it turned out she was from Mexico, and finally, it looked like she was from a different continent entirely!
She lies as much as she is tall. She’s spinning these wild tales about the philosophy of her religious fanatics.
If she lost someone and they have PTSD, that’s tragic and sad, even if they were on "the other side." It doesn't bother me because I've never had much trouble with "them." I respect the courage of any person who spent a night on a battlefield, regardless of the side. In fact, I was recently in Naples, and that city is such a beautiful, wonderful place. I really want to visit Bobov Peak too, but that doesn't mean I'm going to start calling those aggressors "veterans." So stop the nonsense, stormyrider28. You could have been a veteran yourself if you wanted to; unlike that guru, you actually had the age for it. And if you think those aggressors and veterans are the same thing, that says a lot about you.

stormyrider28 said:And she told Elizabeth Jackson he was a psychopath.

I’m sticking to my guns on that because I have plenty of reasons to believe it. After all his provocations, those texts, and those disgusting outbursts that you, him, and his "girlfriends" all vomited out here, do you really think I can view him as any different from himself? Even with one single distinction: you are just blindly naive, whereas he is genuinely malicious and corrupt.

stormyrider28 said:and that his relatives are dying of cancer

Regarding the relative who passed away from cancer after smoking and living an unhealthy lifestyle—he was making jokes about it for days, AND YOU WERE HELPING HIM OUT SO HEARTFELTLY, so don't try to play dumb now, okay? Look, stormyrider28, just because you're talking nonsense here doesn't make you right, just like how you quote my post but conveniently leave out your own, or anyone else's, post that came right before it.

stormyrider28 said:So, he’s actually bringing up his late father just to say that someone is digging a hole right over his grave... because apparently, that's totally fine, right? Just standard behavior!

Look, let me be crystal clear about this: those hateful posts weren't written by me. My late father—who, frankly, was a total nightmare and treated me terribly—was the one behind them. I’ve even included the link to that absolute nonsense so you can see for yourself. And when he’s sending those nasty text messages just to disrespect my mother's memory like this, what am I supposed to say? Should I just send a "thanks"? Give me a break!

stormyrider28 said:Or when the forum regulars start... Leeni He actually had the nerve to mock me about not being able to have kids. Can you believe that? Such a low blow!
How on earth does he even think he knows whether or not she can have children?
Is he actually a doctor, making diagnoses like that right here on a public forum? Because if he isn't, then he’s basically doing exactly what he’s been accusing everyone else of doing—playing amateur medic!

Look, even Daniel Davis40 basically called you out on this one. Honestly, Gnuujninestrin, you’re just talking nonsense and spinning lies like you always do. Seriously, can anyone actually take a single word you say at face value anymore?

stormyrider28 said:It honestly feels like he’s just doing the exact same thing he used to call everyone else out for—gathering private info on forum members and then tossing it out there for everyone to see right here on the board. Or, honestly, maybe he’s just being straight-up rude to anyone who dares to have a different opinion than his!

Go ahead—try and point to a single piece of private information I’ve shared about any user here that they hadn't already posted themselves. And please, spare me the baseless accusations. Honestly, you might want to take a second to ask yourself where this entire smear campaign actually started—especially since you spend every single day sucking up to the person everyone is attacking.
By the way, let me ask you something—I heard this wild story about a guy who used to commute to Chicago from the countryside every single day by train, and apparently, he was being pretty "mischievous" in the train restroom. He was this total submissive type, in his 40s, working as a security guard in the city. Now, don't go looking at me like that... was that you?

Hey Gnu, when it comes to those moral values of yours, maybe it’s enough just to simply state them! I honestly think we need to have a real, heart-to-heart conversation about vaccinations. There is just so much noise out there, isn't there? It feels like every time you turn on the news or scroll through social media, someone is shouting a different opinion at you, and it can get pretty overwhelming! Personally, I’ve always been the type of person who likes to dive deep into the details before making a move. I’m definitely not the smartest person in the room—heck, I usually struggle with the simplest things!—but I do believe in doing my homework. When it comes to medical stuff like vaccines, I feel it's so important to look at the actual science and what the doctors at places like the Mayo Clinic or Johns Hopkins are saying, rather than just following the latest trend or a random thread online. I know there's a lot of skepticism floating around, and honestly, I get it. It’s natural to have questions when everything feels like it's changing so fast. But for me, looking at the big picture—how these advancements have helped protect so many families right here in the States—makes the decision feel a lot clearer. It’s about that balance between our own peace of mind and looking out for the community around us. Anyway, I don't mean to ramble on forever! I just wanted to share where my head is at. I’d love to hear what you all think, though. Are you feeling more confident lately, or are you still stuck in that "wait and see" phase like I sometimes am? Let's chat! So, who exactly was it that made me "famous"?
So, let me ask you something—just a wild, totally out-of-left-field hypothetical here! Imagine you’re tied up to a pole, completely blindfolded, and... well, let's just say things get pretty scandalous and your pants are stripped off. If someone were to suddenly shove your little guy right into someone else's backside, would you actually be able to tell if you were dealing with a guy or a girl? Just curious how much you'd actually know in that situation!

So, who's actually talking about what? It feels like we're all just circling around the same ideas, but now everyone’s suddenly an expert on morality and the GNU... honestly, it's getting a little ridiculous! 😂 😂
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
45 messages
joined Mar 2017
#19 ·
Nicole Johnson20 said:It wasn't me making fun of you—it was Lorelei. Honestly, it sounds like a total complex; some people feel like they haven't actually achieved anything in life so they think you need to be some kind of genius just to have kids. It’s like they think we’re still living in the 1800s where women are expected to give birth just to satisfy some old-fashioned expectations from folks back home and that it should be their entire purpose in life. They clearly haven't realized what century it is and that women actually have the freedom to decide if they want children, how many, and at what age..

You don't have kids, she doesn't have kids, yet you guys are all too eager to trash talk other women and their children. Or their personal choices. But the second someone calls you out on it, suddenly you're cranking out six reply posts in a row. And then you start crying about it. You aren't living in the 19th century; your behavior is straight up Homo Erectus level.

But since we're talking about clones here, let's see... are @Monism and I actually the same person in your eyes?
Daniel Davis40 Daniel Davis40 Member
31 messages
joined Oct 2015
#20 ·
Ethan Brooks59 said:As you can see, Daniel Davis already proved you wrong. So, Gnuujninestrin—you’re full of it and you're lying, just like you always do. Is there actually anything you say that's even remotely believable?

The fact that you directed that at Lorelei instead of me doesn't make the insult any less disgusting. And it certainly doesn't make Gnuujninestrin a liar, since anyone can easily verify exactly what you wrote. Honestly, I have no idea how you have the nerve to claim something like that.

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