Posts by Joseph Taylor11

Jesse Flores842 said:A Colleague.
They just sent her right back. No penalties were handed out.

Alright. Thanks.
(sent you a DM 😉)

ruggedhawk20 said:Cut the drama. Honestly, I’m in almost the exact same boat as you—I've got property in a neighboring city and scored my permit in less than 24 hours after hitting submit on the online application. Now I can legally roll over there whenever I feel like it to check on things.

Did you even bother to submit the application online?

I did. They won't let me get to the next town over—let alone the one that's practically 1.6 miles miles away—$10. They just simply WON'T. Plain and simple.

Why do you think I'm making a scene? Why do you think I'm calling out this whole absurdity?

Because whether or not they hand out permits depends entirely on who's running the local town hall.

While some people breeze through without any issues at all (you're one of them, apparently)—I'm getting a hard NO!

Rebecca Peterson94 said:Hmm... look, I'm getting this straight from a guy working for the Department of Homeland Security. He’s telling me there’s no such thing as a $30,000 fine written in the law—it's just people making stuff up and trying to scam you. Seriously, don't be naive.
The only way they can actually hit you with a fine is if you're caught forging a passport.

Here is the conflicting info I've been seeing lately:
1. There's a $30,000 fine.$0.00
2. The fine ranges from $3,000 up to $30,000.$0.00
3. And now this: there is no fine at all, they "just send you back."

So, a couple of questions:
1. Has anyone here actually been caught without their papers? If so, what happened?
2. Does anyone have the actual facts or know exactly what the penalties are—or better yet, where they're officially posted?

rustyjackal16 said:Exactly. Either you stay within your county, or even better, just stick to your immediate region. That’s what another user on this forum suggested, and honestly, I couldn't agree more.

It makes zero sense that you can drive from Dubuque to Central Park, yet you aren't allowed to travel from Naperville to the western outskirts of Washington, D.C.

Or even just traveling between neighboring small towns. We all see how people have to commute for work, or how they have to drive to the next town over just to find a pharmacy or a grocery store because their own village doesn't have one. It’s illogical. It’s not like viruses care about municipal borders or county lines
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There is absolutely no reason to restrict driving from Pittsburgh to Naperville or from Cleveland to Kearney when those two counties combined only have a handful of cases. This isn't like taking a massive trip between two major hubs, like flying from Washington, D.C. to Miami.

I believe these measures were implemented with good intentions, but as the old saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions😁
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So, we decide to limit movement to vacation spots—you know, the islands, the coastal cities in Florida where everyone goes to summer homes and rentals.
Fine. But if that's the plan, why not set up checkpoints in those specific areas? Put them on Manhattan or Martha's Vineyard where people keep their weekend houses, or along the main highways leading down to Florida, California, or the South. Set up controls there instead.

Instead of applying this rule selectively, it’s just foolish to generalize it across all of America. It's nonsensical. It’s just like how it's unfair to punish the entire nation because of a few "corona parties"—it shouldn't be everyone's problem. Looking out my window, the streets look as deserted as if an atomic bomb had just gone off.

How am I supposed to visit my sick parents for the Easter holidays now? Or drop off their medication? Or even check on my vacation home to see if there's any damage after the earthquake? 🤔 I have my own car, I wear my mask—even if it feels like it doesn't do much, you get my point. This restriction just doesn't make sense.

And how am I meant to get to my apartment over the next month to make sure it hasn't crumbled? Empty houses are basically an open invitation for thieves and idiots, and there's going to be plenty more of both around now. If I come back in a month and find I've been robbed, who am I even supposed to complain to? Who's actually going to track down the thief?

What are the odds of all this actually happening?

Higher than the odds of Washington, D.C. getting hit by its biggest earthquake in 140 years right at the same time as a global pandemic.

Bryan Taylor6 said:Where on earth are you getting the idea that it's a $10000 fine for leaving your place of residence?

I was actually wondering the exact same thing. I couldn't find a single mention of that online, and I haven't been able to get a straight answer from anyone either.
I’m reading that about 80 people in my area were flagged today for being without a permit.
Are they all seriously looking at a $30 $0.00 fine?
Is this just another thinly veiled attempt to pad the federal budget?
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. In a country this absurd, nothing surprises me anymore.

Jason Miller80 said:This whole policy just highlighted how ridiculous it is to have a million tiny little municipalities. You’ve got people living in these small towns—basically just a cluster of houses with a church and a single convenience store—who can't even drive to the nearest actual hub. They need to get to the town center for a Target, a CVS, an ATM, or a clinic... places they actually rely on. But now? They can't move an inch without some local official demanding a permit. And those officials will just say "no" because their boss told them to watch the quotas. It's pure insanity...

I couldn't agree more.
Though, honestly, it really all comes down to whether or not your local mayor is actually a decent human being.

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copperwolf16 said:This whole business with the permits is utterly absurd. I truly feel for those trapped in their laughable little towns and rural hamlets. Living in Washington, D.C., I feel almost ashamed of how privileged I am—there is a massive Walmart just around the corner, lines are non-existent, and I have easy access to my bank and everything else I need. I can zip from Brooklyn to Queens whenever the mood strikes. But what about some poor soul stuck in a place like St. Louis, or maybe a small town, USA near Newark? Now I see people actually writing pleas to some local official—some petty bureaucrat—just to get permission to visit a shopping mall or see a business partner in a neighboring county. It is pathetic, and I say this having traveled through these various local government units quite extensively.
If this Corona situation were to result in the abolition of half these completely redundant local municipalities, then perhaps all the hardship people are enduring would be justified. But even if we were hit by war, plague, cholera, fires, floods, or earthquakes, these 400 municipalities and 200 cities would somehow still persist.

Thanks for the support!

darktinker4 said:Honestly, screw them. I’m telling them I’ll just pack up and go wherever I feel like.
They can try to fine me all they want, but if they do, fine—at least I'll be relaxing in jail just like those fancy politicians.
Sure, let's pretend I infected 50 people with some imaginary virus. If it's all a circus, might as well join the show.

I could sign off on this word for word.
I actually had a complete meltdown myself just a little while ago—the second I heard that guy on ABC using his most dramatic "breaking news" voice to claim a third person had died from COVID.
The person died because they were an oncology patient; any virus would have finished them off.

For God's sake—can people please realize that old and sick people pass away every single day!!

Then I turn on the TV and listen to this idiot on ABC—she's interviewing some guy (a nutritionist?) who's giving out dietary advice.

Like, where am I supposed to buy that stuff? In the two tiny shops I'm actually allowed to visit in this middle-of-nowhere town? They probably don't even carry fresh produce or meat! I don't know—I haven't been there in ages, I can't quite remember.
It's 3.7 miles away from those stores, and it's 6.2 miles away from a Lidl, Walmart, or KTC (where you can actually find something edible), but I'm not allowed to go there.

And yeah—there are people who made this kind of decision, and then there are people who, in my case, won't even give me a hall pass to get to a decent grocery store to buy food. And yet, just the other day, they were telling us not to stockpile supplies.

So now I'm going to go register on Facebook. There are politicians over there I can actually message—maybe someone will actually listen.
Because if they don't, I'm going to lose my mind, have a mental breakdown, and then I really won't be able to vouch for my own behavior.

Rebecca Peterson94 said:Astro show! You should probably try casting some spells too, just like that Boris-Crveni magician.🙏
Look, there are just way too many naive, easy-to-manipulate people out there. And honestly? With this recession hitting everyone like a freight train right now, nobody can afford to turn down a side hustle. Even if it’s a grind, extra cash is extra cash when things are this tight. 👍

So, while we're sitting around waiting for this whole lockdown thing to wrap up, I gotta ask—how much longer do you actually think we're stuck in this mess? Give me your best guess. Since you're clearly an expert on the subject, here's your chance to shine. 😁

It’s going to Decrease gradually... first they'll loosen up the rules about traveling to other cities, then they'll probably just restrict us to moving within our own county.

I'd say the whole thing will last about two weeks. Or, more likely, until Easter.

Rebecca Peterson94 said:Around here, they're always parked in the same spots on the main highway (like near the roundabout, Mutogras, Sućurac, etc.), but there's zero chance they can monitor all those backroads and side paths. People are basically cruising right past them using those shortcuts, just like you described.🙂

Most of my predictions actually end up coming true, quite consistently.
I’m seriously considering a career change. Maybe I should open a Tarot reading booth... ☕

Austin Grant9 said:I'm wondering if you can actually make it from Split to Žrnovnica without hitting a checkpoint.
Where exactly is that control point located on the highway heading toward Omiš?

Do you honestly think those "checkpoints" stay in the exact same spot every single day?🤔

I have at least two different ways to get to every town nearby... it's wild. You just need to figure out where they're sitting, bypass them, and go. Then the police realize what's happening and move the checkpoint—so you just find another way around... eventually, they cover all the routes (assuming they actually have enough officers to do it...).

Honestly, I should have seen this coming. It was bound to stop working soon... ☕

stormybadger8 said:Božinović🙏
Local officials already tried to pull a fast one by saying you don't need permits just to move between three damn suburbs that used to be one single area...
Well, they got slapped down, so as of today, yeah, you'll need them. 🤣

God, what a massive mountain of paperwork this is going to be.
The main city is where everyone actually works, since those two surrounding suburbs basically have zero industry...
That means at least 2,000 people are going to have to scramble for permits just to get to work.
And let's not forget the endless list of small business owners who now have to deal with this nonsense too...

How are the folks from those two idiot suburbs supposed to go shopping? They barely have anything there—maybe a tiny corner store and a private bakery, but not even a gas station...

If the cops actually bother enforcing this, they're definitely going to take bribes and then spread the corruption further. It’s a perfect recipe for disaster. 🤦

I'm just waiting for this to blow up so the mob shows up at the mayor's house with pitchforks and torches, burns the place down, and hunts down anyone else brave enough to run for office...

Now we're finally going to see how pathetic and broken those suburbs really are, and just how vital it is to scrap this whole thing.
And if they actually get rid of it, let's start a GoFundMe to build Božinović the biggest monument ever seen among Americans. 🙏

First bolded point: Don't lecture me. I'm living it—three municipalities and two cities that used to be one unit.
In those three municipalities, there is literally nothing besides maybe one or two shops. One doesn't even have more than a single ATM.

Regarding the second bolded part: I highly doubt it... even though elections are coming up (or at least I hope they are)... maybe someone will toss this into their campaign platform and use it as their big selling point.

Brandon Newman95 said:It's just specific-Canadian Konjic-something. In Canada, they have home quarantine. It's happening everywhere.
Budapest has closed its borders. You couldn't even get into Canada.
Norway-who were traveling out during an Osla-weekendic to somewhere else. They managed to leave right before they got hit with quarantine and those insane fines.
In Canada and Norway-who can work from home, they just do it.

Budapest isn't a country.

Brandon Newman95 said:Look at Oregon—it’s non-existent. Someone moves to a different state and suddenly they lose their residency rights. They just have to stay there.
Canada is the same way.
Norway works the exact same.

But what does "residency" actually mean here? Are we talking about a specific municipality or just the city?

I can't help but wonder if Canada and Canada deal with the same mess we do—having thousands of tiny little townships that act like independent nations, making it impossible to travel between them... ☕

(By the way, I was referring to Germany up above...)

Nathan Bailey6 said:I'm curious—how does domestic travel usually work in other parts of the USA?

Germany... specifically the Saxony region.
There aren't any restrictions. It’s not like everyone is out partying and gathering in crowds right now, but life goes on—people head to work, the grocery store, the bank... (my partner works out in the field, so he’s constantly traveling from town to town without any issues)

fadedranger162 said:Absolutely nothing. All we get from HQ are these endless PDFs detailing who gets which permit. I even tried poking around some news outlets to see if they’d cover this, but apparently, it’s way more "important" to report on the handful of people on ventilators—even when those people are literally telling the media how they're doing themselves—than to care about the thousands of us stuck in different cities waiting for answers. As if nobody outside the immediate area matters. 🙂

They’re just giving us those canned, cookie-cutter responses...

Matthew Jackson2 said:Apparently, the Police Department gave the green light, but now everything is stalled while they wait for some official sign-off from Washington, D.C.—because clearly, those bureaucrats in D.C. have a much better grasp on how things are running in our local towns than we do...

Am I the only one stuck with a totally incompetent local government?
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But when I really think about it... this kind of thing eventually spreads to everyone else. I actually reached out to a Congressman from my district once... (and added something pretty similar to what I've got in my signature below...)

Oh, sure... they'll say Joseph Taylor11 was the one who stirred up all the trouble... 😁

And in the end, you'll all be cheering for me from your balconies....

analogbison15 said:Has anyone here ever gone on a bike ride within about 20-19 miles miles of their own place?

As long as you aren't leaving your town or municipality, you should be fine.☕

vividranger8 said:So, to avoid any weird drama with these checkpoints, I headed down to the Police Department this morning to try and register my current address. But nope—registration is totally off the table right now because there isn't a soul working at the Ministry of the Interior; everything is just shut down indefinitely. I asked the officer at the info desk (who was literally the only person there) what I should even do if I get pulled over while my official residence is listed somewhere else. And get this—the cop just goes, "Well, they know registration isn't possible right now..." Like, seriously!?

It’s pretty wild that even the online registration system isn't working either. I guess the folks at the Ministry of the Interior think this virus attacks computers too...

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Jack Cook7 said:

I haven't seen anything from tessaa lately! Where'd they go? Anyway, what's up everyone? kaže:
I shut off the gas and water at the apartment. Left the electricity running though—mostly because I couldn't be bothered to empty out the freezer... so, whatever happens, happens! Bills should just reflect whatever we actually end up using.

Now I’m just sitting here waiting for the city to finally get its act together with Waste Management. Seriously. Waste Management Just got hit with that trash bill. Seriously?

Oh, he absolutely will, don't even sweat it.

I mean, seriously? How am I supposed to ask them how someone could have possibly made any mess at all if they weren't even allowed to stay in the apartment for a month because they didn't officially live there? Like, come on! 🤦

I’m honestly terrified this is just going to be another act in this massive theater of the absurd.

And don't you dare think for a second that one of those city-run agencies is actually gonna send you a bill! Seriously, did you catch how Bloomberg reacted when that reporter asked if Washington, D.C. was finally gonna stop charging for parking like other major US cities? He basically lost it! He was like, "That question is more dangerous than a global pandemic!! I'm not just some politician, I am an institution—I've been elected mayor six times! Don't play games with me!"

Oh, trust me, I’ll ask. I'll ask (and they don't even have to bother answering me😉 - just look at my signature... then I'll just feed it right back to the press—you know, to give the papers something to write about so they can keep the lights on... just another scene from this ongoing theater of the absurd...

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