Posts by Zachary Thompson2

Hannah Hall91 said:You listen to it when the mood strikes and you just feel like it. In that specific moment, it hits the spot perfectly.

So, that's exactly what a "mood" is. Essentially, you two are saying the same thing.😁

I honestly die of boredom every time I listen to them. Fors. Dummy actually has some great stuff—a few really well-produced, original tracks in there. It’s just a shame they couldn't pull it all together into something more cohesive and easy to listen to.

I’ve always found him a bit tedious—just one of those dry characters.
But that movie where he stars alongside Emma Thompson as a butler? That was absolutely brilliant.

ruggedcrane22 said:Well, it really ought to sound better...

Maybe so. It just depends on what bugs you more: the surface noise on a vinyl record or that "mechanical" quality you get from a CD.

Oh, and by the way, WTF is a "digital soldering iron"?😁

Douglas Robinson12 said:Not necessarily. You have to master the theory first. Start with the Shannon-Nyquist theorem.

I’ll admit, I used the word "quality" incorrectly there... but theoretically speaking, a sound wave should sound just as good as it did at its source once it’s been sliced up and reconstructed.🙂

ruggedcrane22 said:It’s tough to say which sounds better, vinyl or CD. No one can give you a definitive answer.

If we’re talking strictly theory, a record should have superior sound quality. The process of sampling a waveform into tiny digital bits inevitably loses some fidelity—even if only the hardcore audiophiles actually notice the difference.
Personally, I can't hear the difference myself. Besides, my turntable is a basic troubadour model that looks more like a briefcase and uses a plastic needle, so there's really nothing to hear anyway.😁

Check out Planet Music over on Illica or hit up Plug'n'Play on Savska. Honestly, I find it hard to believe you'll track down any Maiden gear there. Your best bet is definitely hitting up some local thrift stores. You actually started a thread about shop locations recently—take a look at the second or third page of that one.

Ugh, honestly👍
At first, I actually thought Tom Waits was the one singing. On ulichn Valtzu, he just completely stole the show from him.

Thomas Diaz6, you're something else.🙏

They seem alright to me. It’s that highly polished pop-rock sound, though I can't think of many bands that actually pull it off like this.
"Jacqueline" is a great track. Do they have anything else out besides that one album with the overly imaginative title?

You forgot to quote another part!

rapidbison42 said:Zachary Thompson2
I saw the lineup and honestly, I can’t help but laugh.
Having Jazzanova and Minus 8 on there?
It’s like they think the entire electronic scene is just one big trip-hop genre.
Give me a break. I could throw together five or six loops on my laptop right now and claim I'm a trip-hop producer too.

rapidbison42
Look, forty-two artists don't represent the whole electronic scene. In fact, forty-two artists aren't even enough to fill three decent compilation CDs. If you actually believe they are, let me know and I'll lend you some MP3s.
And regarding Jazzanova—honestly, I don't even want to get into it. Just go to Google, search "trip hop" and "Jazzanova" and see how many results pop up. Or try searching "Jazzanova" and "nu jazz." See for yourself.
I truly don't understand why you're laughing at these people. You clearly haven't heard what they actually produce, and trust me, "making 5-6 loops on a computer" isn't nearly as easy as you're making it sound. Even if you managed to pull that off, you wouldn't have even finished 20% of the actual work. If you know anything at all about electronic music production, you know that picking out sounds and samples is the easiest part. The real grind involves massive amounts of enthusiasm, genuine passion, and deep musical knowledge.
I suspect people like them probably know more about electronic music than someone who doesn't even know how to write a basic loop. 😁

A quick recommendation:
Terranov - Never -> It's not Massive Attack, but it is absolutely huge.

rapidbison42 said:The Crystal Method

👍 is such a killer band. Have you checked out Orbital yet?

rapidbison42 said:Jazzanova is pure nu-jazz. At their core... they are genre leaders and have absolutely nothing to do with trip hop. The only track that even remotely resembles trip hop is Bohemian Sunset.

I’ll say it again: some of us just don't see it that way. But honestly, does it even matter? When you deal with bands that dance between genres, you can define every album differently. It’s all so vague. The trip hop producers

rapidbison42 said:Nicole Contessa's latest work is straight-up jazz.
It isn't even sampled; everything was played live. That wasn't hard for her, though, since she had the whole Fez jazz Collective behind her from Bari. They are a top-tier group that is totally obsessed with jazz.

The latest album! Does anyone know if there's any news regarding his performance at the Aquarium?

P.S. Pablo Valentino is playing at Papillon tonight. He's the guy who performed alongside DJ Krusha (one of my absolute favorites, an icon—even if he has a silly name) and Gilles Peterson. I haven't actually heard him yet, but those collaborations should be enough recommendation for anyone. Entry is $3.25. It would be a real shame to miss it.

nimblenomad41 said:It’s not bad, but I didn't really get the impression that this is trip hop.

Of course—everyone expects trip hop to sound exactly like Massive Attack or Tricky (who used to be in MA).

But those guys are a bit tricky to pin down. Half of their stuff barely even has a beat; it's more ambient, almost like Jean-Michel Jarre.
The other half sounds pretty close to Massive Attack!

You just happened to listen to the wrong half.😁

Thomas Diaz6 said:Jazzanova has a million different sounds. I once heard John Coltrane's bassist live and it was fucking incredible.
You can always listen to Coltrane, unlike some other jazz musicians, so that’s not really the point. You can't make that comparison.

Anyway, Nicola Conte isn't pure jazz! (That's not an actual argument😁 )

Thomas Diaz6 said:It doesn't matter; this is slowly turning into people making their own personal definitions of music genres.😁
You have good taste, but my definitions are more precise. 👍 😁😁

(Not an argument 😁 )

Me and a few others wouldn't agree with you!😁

👍 And you, son,

Thomas Diaz6 said:Think about DJ Shadow's "Funk Spectrum" or that Schoolhouse funk vibe. There’s this whole connection there because he worked alongside James Lavell and Wagon Christ back when they were part of U.N.K.L.E., and man, that project was a total trip.

I’d say St Germain leans more toward deep house with those jazz undertones. As for Nicola Conte, his recent albums are pulling much closer to straight-up jazz, even though as a DJ, he’s one of the best across all genres—you could almost call him the Patrick Forge of the scene. You really need to check out the Jazzanova EP; it’s pure future jazz and stands as a cult classic in that style.

One never stops learning when it comes to Shadow.

If we're talking deep house, you look at guys like Junior Vasquez or Kevin Saunderson—that’s the music meant for massive club anthems. St Germain just doesn't fit that mold.

And honestly, once you start hearing those offbeat elements like what Jazzanova pulls off, you can't really group "pure" and "jazz" in the same sentence anymore.
As for Nicola Conte, go listen to BP once and then go listen to some actual jazz.
I couldn't even make it to the end of that one; I was bored out of my mind. I can always get behind Nicola, though.

DJ Shadow is basically pure funk,

I haven't really dug into his stuff before. I only own "Private Press," and aside from maybe Monosylabik and Mashin' On The Motorway, it isn't strictly pure funk.
It definitely sounds funky, though—sort of like how Funk D' Void plays minimal techno.
But there's absolutely no question about it: he's top-tier.

Jazzanova are pioneers of future jazz. Honestly, the whole Compost Records sound was shaped by them. They put out so much great material, even if it’s a totally different vibe from trip hop. That Jazzanova EP is fantastic and definitely has those trip-hop elements, and the Remixes have some gems too. Plus, Circles mixed by Jazzanova is a killer album. But again, I wouldn't call it trip hop. It's pure future jazz with hints of ambient, drum & bass, and more.

If we're talking pure future jazz, you're looking at St Germain, Nicola Conte, or Patrick Forge. Jazzanova relies heavily on beats, so I wouldn't necessarily label them as "jazz." It feels more like this blend of soul, hip hop, jazz, and house. And usually, when you hear that specific mix of styles paired with hip hop, that's what people mean when they say it's trip hop.

rapidbison42 said:"Those are some slightly jazzy Fila Brazillia tracks... though they wander through genres quite a bit..."
But still...
There isn't anyone who doesn't lump them into the trip-hop category.
In fact, you'll often see them described like this:
"Fila Brazillia: downtempo trip hop funk"
But man, Roots Manuva is one of those American hip-hop icons who gets used by every living soul who needs an MC-jati guest feature on their album.
I honestly don't see what he has to do with trip-hop.
He's a straight-up rapper.

Well, he’s not exactly a pure rapper. At least not with the album I have here. The backing tracks go way beyond just looping a single sample; they're much more pronounced and powerful, even by classic hip-hop standards. It feels almost like electro-dub. There are a few tracks that sound like they were produced by Tricky—the very definition of trip-hop—which is why I brought him up. Even Gilles Peterson uses his stuff in his sets.

Besides, trip-hop evolved from hip-hop! It's basically downtempo hip-hop!

Though I do agree that Roots Manuva leans much more toward hip-hop than trip-hop.🙂

So, here are a few more recommendations:
Are Nightmares on Wax part of that whole "mushroom jazz" scene??

DJ Krush too, but I really have to emphasize the albums "Jak" and "Ki-Ok."

Boards of Canada makes incredibly original music; some tracks sound similar to Vangelis or Jean-Michel Jarre, but most of it has that offbeat, trippy vibe.

Jazzanova is jazz-infused trip-hop.

DJ Vadim, Zero 7, DJ Shadow, Sneaker Pimps, Morcheeba.

I said it was trip hop-ish! Pretty much! At any rate, it’s way closer to trip hop than anything from Fila Brazillia! 😉

What am I supposed to do when you clearly can't read?

Grab some stuff from Terranov, DJ Krusha, or Roots Manuva too.

Total trip hop vibes.