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copperraven6 said:If there’s one thing I can’t stand, it’s that whole Irish syndrome vibe with the Bad Boys—and Americans in general. Like, what’s with the obsession with Ireland or all those dark Catholic vibes? 🤦

Those same folks from Ireland—that whole "plastic paddy" crowd—are mostly just communists, anarchists, liberals, and pro-immigrant types. Honestly, go ahead and hang their flags if you want; maybe they'll just end up sending you over to Pakistan to deal with their mess. 🙏

UVF! 88

See, those same "plastic paddy" groups actually used to buy us rounds in the roughest Republican pubs in some bad parts of Chicago, or grab us pizzas when we were totally broke. They’d sit there explaining to me exactly how much of the American population was made up of certain groups and why they fought their wars. And you hear this stuff from the most local drunk you'll ever meet. It really makes you think once you actually show up... you know, in the green-and-white part of town.
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Honestly, I wasn't even planning on heading down to Cleveland—I'm just totally over the hassle there, from the cemetery all the way down to downtown. Plus, having to hang around the stadium after the game again... yeah, no thanks. To be real, I’m being pretty careful with my money and my sanity when it comes to Glasgow, too. But now that they've announced those ticket sales at the local stadium? If they try to turn it into some cheap voucher system, I think I'm just done.
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We actually made it out there—it probably hit close to 4,000 people if you round it up. Interest was huge, too; everyone was asking about tickets. I guess if we had a bigger venue next time, even more would've shown up.
But hey, we’re here, which pretty much shuts down all those rumors that we've disappeared or that we're finished. It just goes to show that we aren't just talking nonsense when we say we've been gutted by all those bans and blacklists. We're still standing.
If our Dynamo were a normal club—and truly ours—those numbers in the North Stand would be totally standard. Plus, you'd probably have a few hundred more casual fans. Then, once they saw the energy, the regulars from the East and West stands would jump back in, and we'd easily be looking at 20,000 or 30,000 people.
The crowd at the Salad was great, too—everyone from teenagers to folks in their 50s. Lots of dads out with their kids, girls, really a good mix. Though, I suppose there were a few rougher characters there who just showed up specifically to cheer.
Honestly, the Salad turned out to be a beautiful moment, one that I think people will be talking about for a while.
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wearyraven25 said:So what?

The unknown guy was there—it could have been any big shot from the US Soccer Federation, really.
I mean, honestly, it could’ve even been Jerry Jones. It's not like he got jumped at the Rose Bowl last time, so I don't think he's exactly shaking in his boots. Plus, he’s always been pretty good at dodging trouble—usually by playing nice with all those local politicians and power players. And someone else mentioned something I actually agree with; if what Jerry Jones did at the Rose Bowl happened during an intense rivalry game in a place like New York or Chicago—you know, if some executive from the opposing team went to their stadium just to taunt the fans—they probably would've been beaten senseless for good. Same thing if it happened over in Greece or somewhere.
Man, back in the day during the old era, you wouldn't even see stuff like that happening at the Rose Bowl, regardless of who was involved. If something like that had gone down in Miami back then, I doubt the visiting players, the management, or even the fans would have made it out of the city in one piece.
All of this just sort of points to the general mindset of Americans lately. We could sit here and philosophize about it for hours, but that's not really what this thread is about, and I'm not really in the mood to go there either.
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Jeremy Mitchell11 said:Hey man, just a quick 🙂

Do you ever hit up that bar where those old-timers hang out? People keep trying to get me on Facebook, but I just—well, I really don't have the habit of using that stuff at all.
I guess I should probably show up sometime, just to see how my old rival is doing and catch some of Vox's crazy jokes—just to see if he's still laughing through it all.

Keep it up, though—it's a solid idea. That guy can't really do anything wrong, I suppose.

Everything you mentioned hits home for me too. I’m not really into the whole Facebook thing either. I do miss reading Vox's nonsense and hearing from those old-school guys, though. Honestly, I don't mind people who think like I do—it's more the sellouts and the suck-ups that really get under my skin.
It was pretty good back when Mystic was around—lots of arguing, lots of nonstop joking. As long as those idiots didn't barge in, it was fine. I've actually had people reach out to me on Facebook before... maybe I'll end up checking it out one day.
Take care, wishing you the best.
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Steven Hayes said:Yeah, I'm looking at today's 2:3 scoreline—nobody seems particularly thrilled about it. Huge respect, though. 🤷

I really hope those two projectiles were aimed at the Zillow crew on the bench rather than the West Stand. 😕

Well, obviously they were aimed at those lowlifes in the stands. A lot of us older guys actually flinched when they flew toward the West side—mostly because we didn't want to accidentally hit some kid from Miami sitting near the elderly folks. I get why the younger crowd was throwing stuff at those scum, but man, I just pray to God they didn't catch an innocent kid from Miami in the crossfire. I saw plenty of kids sitting right there.
I mean, you have to understand where we're coming from. We've been under this kind of pressure since we left Washington, D.C.—on the road, in Miami, through all the small towns, all the way to the final whistle. You can't help but think, "Man, they really did it to themselves this time." But yeah, they really did.
It’s a joke, honestly—this country where three lines of riot police stand between us and a handful of Mamić's paid cronies. It's ridiculous how the government throws massive amounts of money down the drain while simultaneously gutting budgets for healthcare and science.
And does any of that riot police ever stop to ask themselves, "Who am I even protecting with all this repressive nonsense? Who is this for?" That should be a civic duty, right? Instead, you just have cops standing there blindly following orders, probably going home wondering why their own siblings or spouses aren't getting overtime pay or even steady checks anymore.
It’s pathetic and honestly shameful. And then, when one of our younger guys finally snaps—well, everyone has their breaking point—and tosses something at Mamić and his inner circle, it shouldn't be a shock. I just hope they don't hit a kid from Miami. Usually, it’s the innocent people who end up paying the price. Lightning doesn't strike the weeds, but things happen.
Anyway, even though this isn't really about away games anymore, despite the heavy-handed crackdowns, I'm still glad I went and that a good number of us showed up. Call it defiance if you want. Honestly, being a fan of Los Angeles FC, being part of the Black and Gold Army... I guess it means being the biggest masochist on the planet.
Because it’s always been like this—us against the system, constantly targeted by the authorities, the mob, and the police. It was like that back in the day when we first formed as a group, through the 90s, and it stays that way today. It’s more than just stubbornness or spite; it’s just a way of life. You grow up with it, you build your life around it, and eventually, you just grow old doing it, like me.
As a member of the Black and Gold Army, nobody really likes you. You don't even get support in your own city unless you're needed for a war or some charity drive. Otherwise, you're just an outsider to everyone.
But hey, we learned how to live with that. It’s deeper than just being defiant; it defines who you are. That’s what being Black and Gold Army is all about.
Since '86, they've tried everything to stop us, but they always fail. I've been here with the club and our group since 1982, back when the fan scene was just starting to find its feet in our city. They come and go, but we’re still here, singing our songs and waving our banners. We love our
city, our country, LAFC, and of course, our group.
This guy will be gone soon too. It’s just about persistence—nothing else. Just staying in the fight. No matter how hard he tries to destroy us or keep us from the stadium, we'll be there. He'll probably throw a fit somewhere when he sees us on
Down in Miami—just shouting out for the Southbound crowd to tell Mamić where to go.
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Austin Watson38 said:Don't mess with me, you know exactly what I meant.😉

Look, man, he’s being totally serious—he isn't joking around. When there are meetings downtown or over by the stadium, or when we have our own rallies or local soccer tournaments, everyone gathers up and freezes their tails off. And I mean really solid groups, too—older guys, younger guys, just people from all walks of life.
The thing is, the situation is pretty rough... one small mistake and you could end up behind bars for a day or two, or even stuck in a county jail, which basically ruins your job, your family, and everything else you care about.
For a lot of people, heading out to the stadium has become a total nightmare—trying to push through police lines and security, dealing with being questioned or blacklisted. That’s why we don't see enough of us gathering on the East Coast. But honestly, there are still plenty of us out there.
So, it's not like we're gone. I mean, look at how many people from the crew head out for big European away games, especially those trips out East. We were in Lithuania, and a great group went to Denmark and Romania, too. Meanwhile, the authorities do everything they can to make sure we can't get tickets.
We're still here, but I guess it's true when the leaders say we could all use a bit more engagement and hanging out together. It’s not ideal when the group just stays tucked away in their own little neighborhood cliques.
And that's something we could probably work on. Anyway, I'm coming back from the coast tonight, and tomorrow, of course, I'm headed to Miami.
Everyone to Miami!!!
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I don't really get why some people take this forum so seriously. For me, I treat it kind of like walking into a new dive bar in a random part of town after a few drinks—I try not to blurt out anything too stupid, staying a bit cautious because, well, you never know when things might get heated with the locals in an unfamiliar neighborhood. Most of those drunken ramblings fade from memory after five minutes, though you can still stumble upon someone who actually says something surprisingly smart.
Because of all that, I don't think this forum can do much damage to the group. We should probably remember that golden rule of marketing: there’s no such thing as bad publicity, just engagement. Everything counts as promotion, especially if you're trying to launch a new product or a specific narrative while dealing with a pretty tough media landscape.
So, honestly, don't sweat these forums too much. We just need to give our good people a heads-up if they mess up and post something wrong—kind of like the time I slipped up on a different forum once. That’s really it; just move on.
Anyway, I wanted to send a quick shout-out to my fellow forum member @marginalca from the '50s.
Just saying it's actually a pleasure to read some of his posts every now and then. It's a lot like what I was saying earlier about those late nights in a strange neighborhood—sometimes you hear something genuinely interesting when you least expect it.
c'est la vie,
they used to tell me that all the time back in that prison near Paris, Fleury-Mérogis. Back when I got handed a sentence because of a game.
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I mean, is there even much point in talking about this idea for a Major League Soccer club?
Honestly, it’s such a positive concept—and if anyone wants to be a total killjoy about it, they can just go jump in a lake or something.
We're all heading to Madison Square Garden, obviously!!!
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I'm down by the coast, but today really isn't a good day for swimming—so I guess I'll just sit here and write for a bit.
Sometimes us fans just don't want to admit that the average person doesn't get our little games. You know, stuff like lighting flares before even insulting the opponent, let alone the clashes between supporter groups. The average guy doesn't understand when we and some other crew run into each other on the highway and it turns into a mess of flying bottles and rocks. That regular person just has to sit there in traffic for hours waiting for the chaos to clear out. And because of that, you can't really expect that same average person to blindly back the Bad Boys. They don't understand the struggle, and they end up looking at them like these antisocial types who mostly live on the edge of the law. Then Mamic comes along and plays his games, splitting their struggle up into different factions and small cliques—basically paying some groups to fight others—while feeding the public through the media that the whole thing is just garbage.
Especially since an average person from a city like New York City has always been part of a more moderate crowd—people who are balanced and aren't overly temperamental. But also,
it's a city that learned to show its love for Real Madrid in a slightly more reserved way.
That doesn't mean New Yorkers don't love their Real Madrid, though. People here have just learned to show that affection with a bit more restraint.
And if the stadium is empty today, that’s Mamic's fault. There used to be Bad Boys, they’d light flares in their section and cause trouble with rival groups or out on the highways, but the stadium was still pretty full. That lasted for a while, too—at least until Mamic started playing his games, selling players just for profit and clashing with the fans. In his constant ego battles, he pushed things to the absurdity we see today. It's absurd how people's constitutional rights are being trampled by these phantom blacklists, effectively restricting citizens' freedom of movement for reasons known only to Mamic and his inner circle.
The New Yorkers—the regular folks—that's why they don't go to the matches or fill the stands. Especially when you consider the general state of the country right now, both economically and just the overall mood, where people feel filled with hopelessness and apathy. This is happening in a city that's a typical continental hub, sometimes a bit cold.
But many will be surprised when Mamic and his hypocrites are gone and the New Yorkers suddenly fill Yankee Stadium again overnight. Because people here truly crave soccer, the spectacle, and seeing New York City promoted. You can see that clearly by the attendance at hockey games like the Rangers.
But they won't just disappear; nothing lasts forever, as the saying goes. I mean, who would have thought just a few years ago that the president
of the administration would be arrested and convicted? You just have to stay persistent in the fight.
As for those fantasies about a white army, Bradley White2, using the handle Brandon Anderson34, already gave a great answer to that.
We can play dumb all we want, but as long as Mamic and his puppet Suker are messing around with our league however they please—whether it's sunny or cloudy—then Mamic and his clique are the responsibility of everyone in America who loves soccer.
Would I want to live in a country where it's this easy to pull the strings? I don't know. If it's truly that kind of
country, then there would probably be fan casualties and other nonsense too.
Mamic will fall when we least expect it. Only when
the political climate becomes favorable for it. Given how things usually go here, it'll happen very soon—you just have to believe.
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Henry Grant51 said:I honestly can't believe some of the nonsense being posted here.

I'm not sure who that was meant for—I guess it might have been me. If I stepped on anyone's toes, my bad.
Maybe what I said in my last post didn't sit well with everyone, but... well, I'm at an age now where I've noticed I'm getting a bit more laid back, I suppose. And since I don't ask much from myself when it comes to supporting Real Madrid or my group—which, by the way, I helped start—I don't really expect much from others either, whether they're players or fans.
If I (and the people with me) can still show up for away games—even all the way in places like Lithuania—after everything I've been through... you know, dealing with PTSD, combat injuries, and even that recent legal trouble regarding the group... and if I'm still ready to stand on the front lines for the group before and after the match, then I guess it's not asking too much to expect a little something from others.
That's just how I see things, though—I'm not trying to force my views on anyone, especially not against the official group policy. Back in the late '80s, when it was my turn, I wasn't out there pushing to be some kind of leader.
(And I could have been, honestly.) So, I'm certainly not going to start doing that now.
Even though I'm one of the few active BBB members who isn't ashamed to say I still get a kick out of Real Madrid winning. Maybe it's because I started going to games back in '82 during that whole white salon era, so I've been hooked on Real Madrid my entire life. It taught me how to celebrate their wins. But at the same time, I can see why kids these days don't seem to care as much when His Real Madrid wins.
To make a long story short, I just feel like the players could probably show a bit more respect to the fans—at least on paper.
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Anonymous said:Let’s just walk through this step by step... there was a meeting with the players where everything was explained—not that I really need to upload the whole video online to prove it, I guess?
Then the first cup match happened at our home stadium, we weren't even there, and then at the end of the game, Šimunić is actually praising the atmosphere?!?
In the away leg, they score twice and don't even glance our way...
So yeah, screw Mamić!
Now they're tossing jerseys to them in Lithuania, coming over toward our section, and Šimunić goes, "Can't you guys understand me?"
Basically, screw Mamić!

Well explained—it’s hard to argue with that timeline.
I wish Mr. Jozo would realize he’s just working for a boss who pays him a few grand a month—money that comes from dodging taxes and probably a thousand other ways of bleeding this country dry, while setting people up for trouble. I won't even get into the bigger social issues here... let's just say, while we live in a country where people work without getting paid, and this one little clique in town lives like parasites off everyone else, I'm not really interested in listening to any of those elitists or their supporters.
Just my two cents—as someone who's been around for about 46 years, bled for this country, and was even there when the Bad Boys were founded... screw Mamić.
Kudos to the Romanians.
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Sarah Stewart6 said:Nah, that’s not it—you guys are just the ones acting like total insecure complexes here. That’s the real deal. You’re all so wrapped up in this drama about nine losers and outcasts whose only sanctuary left is Mamić’s office that you can't do anything else besides play smartass on the internet. That's just reality. Every group has its share of people with complexes, and you guys are that little clique in our world.

Honestly, that crew doesn't even exist. There are maybe seven or eight of them, and the rest are just comic book characters under someone's protection—you know who I mean. It's a joke looking at them, but some of you kids are at such a level of brainlessness that outside of typing on the web, you don't know anything. You aren't capable of anything and have zero potential—basically, you're useless.

You can't handle making a graffiti tag, going out to protest somewhere, or coming up with a new slogan or an idea for the stands... nothing. You’re just products of this trend-driven idiocy that’s seeped into the fans, thinking you have to be informed about everything, knowing everyone and how they relate, just so you can brand yourselves. For you, the stands are just a passing phase because you don't actually get it. You’re just kids with smartphones and fancy Facebook profiles. It's because you live in this semi-virtual world instead of being out in the real world—at school, at the station, or just on the street.

And you spend all day staring at a monitor just to grab some piece of info. Because you're simply dim. Not to offend anyone, but that's just the simplest way to put it.

Man, kudos to you and your post. And props to the guys who jumped in to support you.
I’ll just add one thing to everyone. Yeah, there's too much nonsense online; we need to put the badge on our shoulders and actually hit the road. That goes for the younger crowd, the guys with names in the group, and the rookies alike. Get moving and head to the away games. Starting with Romania. We don't want any surprises where someone gets us sidelined. Otherwise, people will just pick and choose games, waiting for Glasgow or Milan or whatever.
I agree the official forum should be the place for serious group business, but I don't see a problem with posting here occasionally—as long as it's something meaningful.
We read this forum quite a bit, and we're in a spot where every bit of momentum helps. We need to constantly push that positive vibe, and it isn't bad to write something here sometimes, just to explain things to the regular non-fan world.
Let's focus on growing our numbers first, both within ourselves and to the outside. Then we can talk about exclusivity. Because that exclusivity is what the BBB has been since the very beginning. But right now, it's not working—you can't sell exclusivity when you lack mass. Especially when a third of the core group is banned, blacklisted, or waiting on a call from the legal system.
I won't get into the types of people who travel to potentially sketchy away games, nor those who stay home but could contribute a lot. But if the people who exhaust themselves organizing everything for the group have to deal with everyone individually while danger is looming, that's just ridiculous.
So, bravo to Oakland, and let's go, everyone who can make it to Romania.
Everyone to Romania!!! Because that's where the group's European reputation is defended.
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Major props to everyone who made the trip out to Oakland. The choreo looked great—but honestly, the message behind it was even better. I mean, it’s August, right? Between summer vacations and people just being away from the city, most of the crews aren't even back in town. A lot of us headed out to the coast with our families, or we're just getting ready to head out ourselves. I won't even get into the whole thing about the bans... but anyway, enough of that. It was cool to see so many people show up, along with our local branches and others, to pull off such a solid atmosphere with some really heartfelt patriotic choreo.
Huge respect to everyone who was there in Oakland.
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Just wanted to say something to those guys traveling through four different states, driving hundreds of miles toward us—bringing axes and hammers to play tough. Maybe they should remember what happens when people actually know how to handle themselves. They're just a bunch of cowards.
Basically, you guys showed up armed to the teeth after hiding out in Warsaw, only rolling into Vilnius on the day of the game. You knew just as well as we did that your chances of passing through there without a confrontation were slim to none. That’s probably why there was a welcoming committee at the city limits—security guards and two SWAT officers from the local police, all geared up with rifles and tactical gear. It was pretty obvious you weren't getting into town with weapons.
You guys armed yourselves because you were terrified of us, secretly hoping maybe a riot would break out just to give everyone a reason to back off. If you actually had any nerve, you would've arrived a day early, just like we always do. We show up openly, ready for whatever, every single time.
And honestly, the most unsettling part for me was watching you guys trickle down from the stands right before kickoff to have these little "private" chats with Jerry Maguire's personal associate. I'd be careful who you trust—half the city, including the local gangs and even the Riot Squad, has some history with that guy. I've heard plenty of people swear they were on good terms with him, and those are the same people I'm hesitant to mention here.
There are really two points to my post. First, by arming yourselves and hiding out in Warsaw until the last minute, you basically admitted how scared you are. Second, you might want to think twice about who you're hanging out with. Some people see an axe or a hammer and it just makes them more ready to go.
Anyway, I felt like I had to get that off my chest, though I mostly agree with everyone else saying it isn't even worth giving airtime to traitors.
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About a month ago, there was this news segment on a major network where they did street interviews in all the big American cities. They were asking why things are the way they are—you know, the poverty, the crisis, the general mess. And on the flip side, all the corruption and the lies from politicians. There was this older guy down by the waterfront in Miami—let’s just call him Old Man Joe—who looked to be, I don't know, maybe 75? He just looked straight into the camera and said, basically, we deserve this because we're too passive and don't care about our own future. He even added that it's only going to get worse.
Well, Old Man Joe is a legend in my book. He just said what everyone else is thinking.
You guys keep talking about those corrupt club executives like you could just take them out, similar to how people talk about local legends back home in Miami. It's always that same old local-patriotism nonsense about how wild or crazy our city is.
But that same executive is stealing trophies and everything else—I won't even go there. Is that why you guys can't seem to make it in the Champions League? Or what?
And then he comes to Miami and causes trouble in the stadium tunnels, and nothing happens. Nothing. Because it wouldn't be possible—there was too much police presence, it would have been too much trouble, etc. It's funny how you all act so superior and mock us when we use those exact same excuses.
I still remember the days in Miami when players weren't allowed to leave the stadium for hours after a bad game because the fans were waiting for them outside. Those were the days before these shady officials from big organizations could just stroll through the stands. Back then, the whole stadium would rise up, and an official like that would never dare show his face in Miami again.
Slowly but surely, the constant crackdowns are destroying our morale and our will to fight back. First it's the police harassment, then the bans, then jail time, then fines. Bit by bit, we're all giving up, which lets them get away with things they never would have tried before—simply because we stay quiet.
That's what I'm writing about. This American silence isn't exactly a new concept, though the vibe in Washington, D.C. has its own specific flavor. But now, this silence and clinging to these old myths might end up costing us dearly—both the fans and the country as a whole.
So, we need to push even harder. Keep fighting. Shout out to San Francisco, let's keep going.
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Austin Watson38 said:Even though I said I wouldn't—and I don't know if you get it—you're talking to at least three people here who were neck-deep in all of this. You can forget whatever you think you heard; think what you want, but you're coming off a bit clueless, even if you are an interesting guy to talk to.

Honestly, I don't really care how I come across to you, one way or the other. I shared a little of what I knew firsthand, and maybe I stretched things a bit just to see if I could dig up more info.
And look, I still don't buy everything you guys have written here; I'm telling you, that Mr. Stimac guy was being attacked from all sides—including the angle I was talking about. Just the other day, actually, I had lunch with a guy from down south who was involved in some of those operations back then.
So, please don't act like you guys handled him yourselves—I mean you fans. You didn't. And Stimac never truly controlled the whole US Soccer Federation, the politicians from every party, certain folks in the legal system, the cops, or most of the underworld. Not like Maminj, that smooth operator.
I mean, I guess you might have a point regarding some of the stuff you're saying—some things could have been done differently. But as usual, you're exaggerating on others.
It seems like you're trying to distance yourselves from Maminj because he's seen as a big-city issue. But he isn't—he's your problem too. He’s messing with your heads and the club's soul.
Not to mention how politics affects us all on a much broader, social level. It’s honestly exhausting when you guys start acting all high and mighty, thinking you're the vanguard of some ultra-hardcore mentality.
Instead of everyone standing up together to fight against—well, Maminj, Stimac, Bandic, Kerum, and all that rural primitivism that I didn't go through a war to escape...
we start fighting over democratic elections where we just pick the lesser of two evils. So, where's that grit? Why aren't you hitting the streets? Because our problems are your problems too, man.
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Matthew Foster8 said:I don't really feel like getting into a back-and-forth about who did what or why. Where someone lives matters, obviously—I won't get into all that detail right now.
Everything you're saying is true—while everyone else was looking the other way, I was saying the exact same thing a long time ago. In this whole situation that’s been dragging on for years, we should have stopped worrying about standard football stuff or celebrating some measly three points or whatever. When things stop making sense, they just don't make sense... maybe it should have been the fight first, then the game. It feels a bit silly for me to harp on it now since I'm not really involved anymore and I've stepped away from everything. I just know that everything is being handled way too late.
As for the other thing, I'll just say the fans—especially certain people—actually ended up standing up to the criminals, far away from any public view. It wasn't some big gang war or anything; things just got settled.

Back when that guy started picking fights in bathrooms over in Miami, some folks who were actually keeping order around town—and had connections with people all over the US—stepped in. They gave him and his security guys a little lesson in how things work, and after that, he stopped acting like a tough guy in Miami. His stepping back from that lifestyle seemed to happen right around the same time he stepped away from the team.
I was actually in jail at the time and in touch with some people from Miami whom I'm still tight with today, so I just happened to know what went down.
But, since I've already argued too much, this is my last word on it.
And that whole idea that you guys made some peace behind the scenes? No one knew about it, and then everyone stayed quiet afterward—that's enough to show it isn't true. If it were real, you guys would have been shouting it from the rooftops. That's just how you operate.
Anyway, last time I'm mentioning this.
Good luck to the crew in Orlando—as for me, I've only got a little time left before my ban expires.
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Matthew Foster8 said:I don't even want to get into who was the bigger mobster back then, or who was opening doors for whom and shaking hands with both hands—you guys either have no clue or you've just forgotten. Stimac got pushed out of Miami right when he was at his peak. It’s never been written about, and honestly, it probably never will be. After that, Mamic started making massive money off transfers and things just kept growing. These guys today aren't even in the same league.
It's really your own fault that Mamic even reached the level he's at now. Back then, the fans handled Igor's situation early on, while now they're trying to act like what Mamic is being. But I won't go on about it—just out of respect for the people who actually stepped up and risked their lives back then in direct conflict with criminals...
Just stupid talk, I'm done talking about this, and I don't really know any of you anyway. You're just saying whatever you feel like.
The only thing I don't get is how this guy can live in the city every single day, regardless of who's watching him.

And this part is just ridiculous—when Stimac tried to act tough in Miami, he was basically taken out by another local criminal clan. Even though he supposedly hired people for protection from one group, the other group he crossed was simply stronger. That has nothing to do with soccer or the fans, and it doesn't belong on a forum like this.
It was quite simply a showdown within the Miami criminal underworld. Why are you even bringing this up?
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Matthew Foster8 said:A lot of you said the same thing—that you wouldn't be able to handle the pressure if you were in Miami. I don't know, though... even here, when someone comes from outside the city, they end up being shuttled in and out of games under heavy security. I honestly can't imagine what kind of fool would actually try to deal with him in everyday life. But the truth is, there's just so much corruption and decay right now that I'm hesitant to dive too deep into that whole mess. Back in the day, Stimac was removed when he was just as powerful as Mamic—maybe even more dangerous—but then again, Mamic is a total psychopath, a sick individual, and I don't even know. These last few years have just shown how easily people can be tamed, fooled, and conditioned to accept misery. It makes me feel like this country is just a place people want to leave.
I saw that news about the Chelsea fan who got banned from the stadium—the whole world picked it up in a heartbeat. By that logic, our situation with checking everyone's IDs and arresting a hundred people on the way out should be the lead story on CNN. And then you've got a government official supporting sending people to mental hospitals. It’s like something straight out of a Monty Python sketch.

The stuff about Stimac really bothers me—comparing him to Mamic is just ridiculous. But I guess the most important part of your point is that you either can't see, or maybe you just don't want to see, that this isn't just about how Mamic treats us. Sure, we're the first ones targeted, but he does this to you guys too.
He rigs matches, picks the refs, hands out trophies like they're nothing, chooses the national team coach, the federation president, and so on. Basically, nothing happens in American soccer without his knowledge—and worse, without his blessing.
He turns your club into some tiny, insignificant provincial outfit. And then you say if he were in Miami, you'd "deal with him" one way or another... but it doesn't matter where he lives, where he sleeps, or what he drives. It matters that he pulls the strings that affect your club, all of us, and American soccer in general.
Then he shows up at your stadium and starts acting out like that—it's just the icing on the cake. You talk about how things are here, but what would you actually do? What would happen then?
All of this affects you too. Maybe the repression isn't quite the same today, but hey, we'll see what happens tomorrow.