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What's the point of required reading? in Students & Teens ·
wanderingbadger44 said:That’s just... how should I put this?... perfectly natural.
Someone is always going to find something stupid or dull. It's inevitable. Required reading lists are designed with a specific purpose in mind. Sure, you'll run into teachers who don't handle the curriculum properly, but that's beside the point. The point is the list itself. Don't forget that names like Krleža are on there, and think about how lucky you were to eventually discover his work. You could have easily avoided him because of your resistance to the assigned reading.

A curriculum shouldn't be built based on the whims of children or the tastes of the general public, just like you wouldn't let a crowd decide which classical pieces are played during a music appreciation class.

And help me understand why you're pushing back against the reading list so hard when you aren't even one of those kids whose only exposure to literature is what's assigned in class. It seems like you're protesting the selection specifically because you're someone who would have found their way to books anyway, even if you never stepped foot in a library. In a way, you're living proof that anyone who truly wants to read will find a way, regardless of whatever list they're handed.

That’s easily the most lasting impact those required reading lists had on my life. It wasn't about gaining some deep understanding of literary history; it was more about developing a visceral distaste for the specific authors and books they forced upon us. Honestly, it even made me recoil from works I actually might have enjoyed, simply because they were part of that mandated curriculum. 😁

So, go ahead—explain to me why you’re suddenly such a crusader against assigned reading lists. It seems to me you’re only making this noise because you aren't exactly part of that crowd whose only connection to classic literature is whatever happens to be on a syllabus. You’re shouting about "curated selections" when, in reality, you probably wouldn't even step foot in a public library if it weren't mandatory. Honestly, you are the living embodiment of my point: someone who actually wants to read will find their way to a book regardless of what some school board decides to put on a list.

In my view, the true value—the actual purpose—of reading literature should be found in the experience itself. For someone in their 30s or 40s, a book ought to serve as a source of genuine entertainment, deep intellectual stimulation, or even just a moment of quiet reflection through beautiful prose and insightful ideas. That is far more meaningful than the hollow memory of struggling through a text in a language you barely grasp, only to end up frantically copying assignments from an older cousin just to get by.

There are certain individuals who come of age surrounded by bookshelves, raised by parents who treated reading as a way of life and made early trips to the local library a cornerstone of their childhood. Then, there is the other breed—those raised by people who operate under the logic of, "Everything worth knowing, I picked up from the TV! And the bigger the screen, the sharper the mind. You can judge my intellect just by looking at my massive flat-screen. Just What a clever Fellow I am."

Required reading has occasionally repulsed me, or perhaps more accurately, driven me to sprint toward a local bookstore to find something actually worth my time—much like how you might instinctively grab the steering wheel immediately after surviving a chaotic traffic jam. For some, these assignments might serve as a gateway to discovering that a book can be a genuine companion, but this particular curriculum failed that mission entirely. It was far too preoccupied with dredging through the dusty annals of American literary history. To me, that’s just tragic; such an approach is nothing more than a colossal waste of time and energy for everyone involved.
What's the point of required reading? in Students & Teens ·
wanderingbadger44 said:If you want to talk about glorifying books, you should ask the people here who claim to be readers—which is most of them—how much more enthusiastically they would dive into a book if the school reading list actually offered titles they liked. It's because those mandatory assignments feel tedious and uninspiring.

The honest advice for them would be to just head to the local library and read whatever catches their eye.

It would be much fairer to just say, "I don't read, I'm not interested, it's exhausting, and frankly, it's boring." But then, we wouldn't even have this conversation.

Everyone here acts like a literary scholar while simultaneously hating on required reading.

Those people you mentioned, the ones who have other hobbies and aren't really into reading, aren't even part of this group. Everyone here swears by the importance of literature and their love for books, provided the book isn't something assigned by a teacher.

Back in my day, the librarian practically had to drag me out of the library by my ear; she was more like a surrogate grandmother to me given how much time I spent there. By seventh grade, I had already started copying assigned readings from older students who had different teachers, and later on, I became a regular fixture at the local bookstore picking up those titles.

There are certain things that seemed utterly moronic and uninteresting to me as a child, even if I did end up reading them, yet I find myself appreciating them quite deeply today.
What's the point of required reading? in Students & Teens ·
Susan James said:signature 👍
I’d just add one thing: literature should be taught the way some schools or certain teachers do it—right there in class, interactively. We shouldn't be having them write notes at home about things like 😬 the setting or the time period, which they can easily just copy-paste or ask their parents for. That totally devalues the book itself and kills the whole point of reading.

We really need to expose kids to a wide variety of topics and introduce them to all kinds of different authors.

Look, I honestly don't understand why schools aren't teaching students how to actually write an essay that possesses a coherent structure.

urbantinker8 said:I know plenty of people who moved abroad—not even in tech—who are working in their actual fields.
Fields include medicine, engineering, tourism. They found jobs in their professions in the blink of an eye, and they are beyond satisfied; the employers are beyond satisfied too.
Every single one of them came from that abysmal American school system.

It is vital to recognize that those who choose to move abroad are rarely "average" individuals. Most of my acquaintances living overseas are significantly more intelligent and capable than the norm, regardless of their country of origin. Even my former classmates who emigrated, whether temporarily or permanently, stand apart from the average student; they are sharper than those who merely maintained high GPAs and appeared more successful within the confines of our academic institutions.

Every incompetent clerk who lacks the basic capacity to grasp their job description or follow simple instructions is a byproduct of our educational system. Doctors from Memphis who allow a child to perish are a byproduct of our educational system. Donald Trump is a medical technician, for heaven's sake. Doctors who recommend homeopathy for conjunctivitis are a byproduct of our educational system. An economics professor who cannot calculate sales tax is a product, in part, of our educational system.

To hell with this system. 😁
What's the point of required reading? in Students & Teens ·
urbantinker8 said:Wait a second now...
I think you’d get the exact same "result" if you asked kids about math.
About 99.9% of students wouldn't say math is just boring; they'd tell you it's a nightmare.
And just as much as people love to drone on about how STEM is this incredibly vital field essential to every single aspect of life on Earth, I guess the post-industrial reality of the US tends to contradict those claims a bit.
I mean, most people don't actually need to master quadratic equations, trigonometry, or imaginary numbers.
Most people don't need them, if I'm being honest—actually, hardly anyone does.😁
But nowadays, it seems quite fashionable to babble about STEM as if it's absolutely essential, and within those subjects, there's plenty of filler, tedious stuff, and nonsense that the average person is never going to touch in their lifetime.

I wonder why there isn't a thread here titled What's the point of vectors?
Maybe it's because, unlike literature where you can at least argue your own opinion, there's no practical application for it in daily life?
Yeah, right.☕

Agreed.

It is entirely replaceable by doing something simple—something a child could handle—while having podcasts or audiobooks playing in the background.

I am being dead serious: the current US Department of Education approach, which claims we must expose kids to "as much breadth as possible so they can choose a career, and hey, maybe some of them will need vectors," is pure idiocy. If someone actually needs that knowledge and finds it interesting, they can pick it up at seventeen, eighteen, or thirty-five when the need arises. There is no reason to sit around in a classroom waiting for that moment to happen.

Besides, how do people end up enrolling in architecture, civil engineering, studying Spanish, or becoming dance educators without ever having had a single high school course specifically steering them toward those paths? It is clearly possible.
What's the point of required reading? in Students & Teens ·
Richard Perez3 said:The whole point of school is to give you a massive range of options. It’s about building that foundation so one day you actually have the freedom to choose—whether you want to be a surgeon, a professor, a baker, or a mechanic. Or, honestly, you could just choose to do none of those things at all.

But look, if you want that kind of total freedom to pick whatever path you want, there are certain hoops you have to jump through first.

My bad, I gotta run to Home Depot. Let's pick this back up tomorrow. 👋

If you just want that kind of info, you can listen to a podcast while you're lacing up your sneakers.
What's the point of required reading? in Students & Teens ·
Richard Perez3 said:Look, the point is that you read it.
It doesn't have to be fun.

If you want electricity, you gotta pay the bill. If you want to pay the bill, you need money. If you need money, you have to go earn it somehow. Whether you enjoyed doing it or not—that's beside the point. If your job sucks, bad luck, but you're still gonna do it because you need the paycheck, and you need the lights on. If you can make the job tolerable, or maybe, if you get lucky, actually interesting—hooray! If not, it'll suck, but you're still gonna grind through it because you need that freaking electricity. And nobody's gonna give a damn about how much you hate your job.

Or—you won't have electricity. Metaphorically speaking, you'll get an F on the reading assignment—a bad grade in English class—a failing grade—and you'll fail the grade. But you'll read the book if you want to pass the grade/earn your paycheck.

Honestly, I don't get why this is so hard to wrap your head around.

Richard Perez3 said:Seriously, what the hell is there even supposed to be "attracting"?

Let them "bond" over Playboy in their spare time. Whatever.

What do you even need to "pull" to get this year's revenue into an Excel sheet just to run a P&L?

Look, it’s pretty simple. It’s your job, period. If you don't get the work done, you don't get paid. Honestly, I think that alone is more than enough motivation for anyone to actually show up and do what they're supposed to do. No extra nonsense needed.

If the entire purpose of education is to condition children to become adults who blindly perform tasks they find tedious, mindless, or pointless just so they can afford their electric bills later, then I fail to see why we bother them with literature and a full curriculum. Instead, we might as well have them sewing garments or sanding table legs for seven dollars an hour. It would teach them the exact same lesson: sit still and do your job. Plus, it would provide a controlled environment where they are supervised while their parents are at work, preventing them from forming gangs and running rackets in the neighborhoods. At least there would be some tangible output.

Seven bucks an hour, five hours a day, for 175 school days a year is $2042, multiplied by eight years, equals $49,000.

If we let them listen to audiobooks and podcasts while they sand or sew, they might not end up completely uneducated by the end of those eight years.

The only logistical hurdle is figuring out where to house the instructors during work hours so they don't start running gangs or extorting local neighborhoods, but I suppose even that problem could be solved with enough ingenuity.
Massive wave of Chinese spam on the forums in Feedback & Suggestions ·
There are six pages of this mess over on Zillow. Is there any way to temporarily disable new user registrations until you guys figure out a solution?😁
I’m honestly suggesting we look into filing criminal complaints against those who dare to present actual facts. We can't just let this slide!
Hannah Taylor2 said:Hey ladies, 😉 this is my very first post in this thread, and I’m really hoping you'll welcome me into the group 🙂.
I just couldn't sit here by myself and not vent about these incredibly irritating comments. Even though I'm only 12 weeks along, I am already losing my mind over certain situations. It just so happens that my sister-in-law is three weeks further along than I am, and since we aren't exactly on amazing terms—well, given the dynamic between her and my mother-in-law—I don't even need to mention the constant comparisons and snide remarks.
"We used Nifty, why won't you? How can you say no? We could afford it. Do you guys just not have the money?"
"You aren't interested in knowing the gender? We found out we were having a perfectly healthy little girl back in week 8, so now we can finally relax. We even picked out a name already. What about you? What are you waiting for regarding names?"
"A real pregnant woman shouldn't look like that."
"You're too thin. You should stop worrying about your appearance and focus on the baby; you really need to start eating."
"Why don't you go to the high-risk clinic? M. went straight to the specialist immediately."
"How much longer do you plan on working?"
"It's not good if your blood type is positive. You need to see a doctor right away to find out what to do next. Your pregnancy could get complicated and lead to a miscarriage. Having a positive factor is never good. M. has a negative factor, while her husband is positive, and the doctor told her that's actually the ideal combination."
"It's not good for the baby that you're so skinny. M. has already gained 8 pounds."
"Why are you exercising? That isn't good for the baby."
And then there are a million other stupid little sparks like that...
For context, this is my first pregnancy, and everything is going perfectly (knock on wood). Don't think for a second that I've become some "skinny obsessed" person; I weigh 108 lbs at 5'3", and I've only lost about 4 pounds in the last month. I am eating exactly what I need to. Honestly, I haven't had any issues, and I truly hope I can keep working until about 45 days before my due date. My work situation is a bit complicated; after nine long years, I finally have the chance to sign a permanent contract starting September 1st (I work at a school). I just hope that amidst this madness—between the strained family dynamics, an unplanned move happening on short notice, and all this other circus—I can resolve this massive stressor called "my career," and then finally just settle in and enjoy being pregnant and waiting for my baby.

Actually, it's the exact opposite. Your mother-in-law is just talking nonsense. If she is Rh negative and the fetus is Rh positive, then in every subsequent pregnancy where the baby is Rh positive, she'll need medical intervention.

You don't have to worry about this happening to you since you are Rh positive.

If you want to shut down her nonsense more effectively, just Google "Rh incompatibility." 😁
Look, just ask people to give you a hand if standing up feels like too much of a struggle.
You aren't fourteen years old; you don't need them.
Religion classes in school - Megathread in Students & Teens ·
Susan James said:There are still so many people who feel it’s best for kids to "get their sacraments out of the way" while they're young. They want to be able to have a church wedding later in life, or they just figure, "you never know when you might need it," like if someone asks you to be a godparent.😬
Since religion class is a requirement for school, people aren't going to give up on it just because they'd rather focus on math or a foreign language; they'll just fight to make sure that extra language class happens at a different time instead.

Then you have those parents who are weighing their options—they aren't against it, they just want their kid to explore other things. If the alternative is drama class (which isn't really their kid's thing) or a sport that the child isn't interested in or shouldn't be playing, they're naturally going to pick the religion class where everyone gets an A and they just sing some songs on the clock.

I honestly don't see what the alternative would be for first graders that would satisfy everyone.
Not to mention, how much would that even cost?
And please, let's not suggest "ethics" or some vague general religion course. The actual content could be covered in two years, not twelve, just to keep Catholic religious education in the schools.☕
(It would actually be quite nice if these classes were taught by grad students from a local seminary instead.🥳)

One could easily spend twelve years or more tackling ethics; I fail to see where the issue lies.
Religion classes in school - Megathread in Students & Teens ·
Lawrence Torres56 said:You're totally overstating it,
kids in that school are going to learn about plenty of stuff that happened in history that's way more intense than this, so how are you even going to explain all that to your kid?
In third grade, if you live in a place like Chicago, the kid is going to go on field trips and hear all about peasant revolts, historical uprisings, and whatnot... isn't that much darker and heavier than some cartoon about Noah?

Why don't you just go straight to the principal if this keeps happening despite you saying "no" multiple times?
I totally get why you're seeing red, but posting about it here isn't going to solve anything—which you already know—so I don't quite get why you aren't just heading down to the school and putting an end to this if it's bothering you this much?

I think you're missing the point entirely. Religious education classes aren't designed to teach history, nor are biblical stories presented as literal myths.

It is fundamentally a parent's right to refuse to let their child be told in school that Noah was a flesh-and-blood historical figure. Though, perhaps it wouldn't be such a bad idea to show a child—following their cartoons—the sheer chaos and cruelty of a deity who commits genocide via a flood, or to bring up figures like Hitler and a half pot. ☕
Religion classes in school - Megathread in Students & Teens ·
hiddendriver34 said:Personally, I don't think religious studies belongs in the standard school curriculum. But honestly, the sheer amount of prejudice and paranoia surrounding this topic just leaves me speechless.

Think about it: what would you actually do if your kid started watching a cartoon about None on TV? Would you yell, "No! Stop!" and frantically cover their eyes to shield them from some supposed biblical horror story? I'm being dead serious here—I’m not trying to be edgy or stir the pot. I had this one friend who grew up in a strictly atheist household, and she had that exact same reaction to anything even remotely religious. We were traveling together through Paris during college, and when we walked up to Notre-Dame, she actually refused to go inside because she "didn't want to step into a church"!😲

Look, no matter how intolerant or closed-minded someone might be, Christian mythology is essentially the bedrock of our culture. How can you expect a child to truly grasp literature or art history if you strip away that foundation with your own biases?

Throughout my life, I’ve made it a point to visit all sorts of churches, temples, and mosques 😁 and, out of genuine curiosity and respect, I’ve picked up a decent understanding of various faiths. I really want my kids to grow up with that same kind of open-mindedness.

There is a fundamental distinction between presenting a myth to a small child and having an adult authority figure insist that it is objective truth. Furthermore, there is a massive difference between a child stumbling upon a cartoon on television and actively recruiting that same child for religious education against a parent's explicit wishes.

Refusing to enter Notre Dame Cathedral because you find churches distasteful is one thing—though being entirely ignorant of Christian mythology is certainly awkward given our cultural landscape here in America. However, none of that is relevant to the core issue: a parent standing their ground against a teacher who is relentlessly attempting to save their child's soul. 😁
Religion classes in school - Megathread in Students & Teens ·
feralmoose32 said:I think you might have missed a detail there—he actually wanted them to receive communion, he just didn't want them standing up at the altar with everyone else, maybe because he thought it wouldn't look right or something like that...

Besides, the child has Down, and they attend school with an aide—do you really think they have no idea what's going on?

People with Down aren't mentally incapable; they understand way more than you'd think, and honestly, they are often much more sincere in their faith than a lot of "devout Catholics" out there...

Down syndrome (DS or DNS), clinically referred to as trisomy 21, is a genetic condition stemming from an extra copy—or partial extra copy—of chromosome 21.[2] This condition generally manifests through delayed physical development, distinct facial characteristics, and varying degrees of intellectual disability ranging from mild to moderate.[1] On average, a young adult living with Down syndrome possesses an IQ of approximately 50, which aligns with the cognitive capacity of an 8- or 9-year-old, though there is significant individual variation.[7]

The majority of those with Down syndrome experience either mild (IQ: 50–69) or moderate (IQ: 35–50) intellectual disabilities, while more severe cases (IQ: 20–35) do occur.[1][30]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_syndrome
What's the point of required reading? in Students & Teens ·
Sandman. 😁
Help! Some random person is harassing me in my DMs in Feedback & Suggestions ·
amberfox4 said:That’s likely the case; it sounds like the most logical conclusion.

I don't think there is a single active female user here—or even a male user with a misleading handle 😁—who hasn't been hit with hundreds of those filthy pick-up lines that would make anyone blush.
Help! Some random person is harassing me in my DMs in Feedback & Suggestions ·
amberfox4 said:If someone is just posting their nudes on Facebook, I wouldn't say a word. But when someone who is—to put it politely—unremarkable, starts being incredibly pushy about sliding into my DMs or anyone else's... well, I find that behavior quite distasteful.

The internet is crawling with people whose social lives have hit rock bottom, so they join a forum and immediately start hunting for women. They'll fly into some random woman's inbox with a pathetic, "Hey, what's up? Love the profile! hehe," or some other nonsense. Sometimes they aren't even smart enough to realize that if they blast that exact same message to five different women at once, those five women are going to notice they aren't special. It’s like their only metric is "female, active on this site within the last 24 hours." 😁 This particular guy clearly went a step further by actually reading your last three posts. He didn't just pick you out of a crowd at random; he targeted you. But don't flatter yourself—he probably sent the same desperate pitch to thirty other women hoping one of them was lonely enough to fall for his supposed "charm."

If you put someone on your ignore list, you won't see their messages anymore. And if you simply choose not to reply, they'll likely stop bothering you eventually.
Help! Some random person is harassing me in my DMs in Feedback & Suggestions ·
This entire thread is absolute garbage. 😍
School Reform: Thoughts? in Students & Teens ·
Susan James said:I find it hard to say whether it works or not because I haven't personally attended those classes, so I don't know exactly what they cover.
But I certainly see people signing up. And I see them paying $833 quite a premium.
The advertisements for these courses seem to be popping up on every street corner.
And it looks like a huge number of parents believe this is an absolute necessity.
Some even take out loans if they don't have the cash on hand.
There's even advice circulating to enroll kids in "easier" high schools just so they can coast through with good grades, thinking they'll have plenty of time to catch up during the final exam prep...
On top of that, most of these programs market themselves using "15+ years of experience" (ranging from college entrance prep to SAT prep), claiming their instructors are veteran professors who simultaneously teach in public schools.
I have nothing against people making extra money, but I think it’s a bit of a hit to the entire American education system when someone uses a private course to fill the gaps left by others, or essentially charges a premium to do a job that should have been covered in class.

Personally, I am all for external evaluations.
Absolutely.
Evaluating based on professional standards, student feedback, and even "adult" follow-ups after graduation.

But my point is that a student's score on a standardized test isn't solely the result of one high school teacher's work... in fact, looking at your post, it's clear that an English score can be influenced by elementary teachers, middle school teachers, and high school teachers alike. And if there was a maternity leave or a substitute involved, who are we actually evaluating? Whose work are we measuring?
We were all students once, and we all had different teachers for the same subjects... everyone differs in their teaching style, personality, and depth of knowledge.
And that makes a massive difference.

When it comes to foreign languages, it becomes even harder to judge a teacher's effectiveness based on exam scores... some kids have been learning since preschool, they have access to TV, the internet, music, language schools, summer camps abroad, plus the mix of good and bad teachers they encounter... not to mention the child's own interest and innate talent.

So, in the grand scheme of things, the SAT results aren't a very reliable way to grade a teacher or a school.

Though, it does worry me how much focus is placed on cramming facts while children struggle to actually think critically.
Our education system feels a bit broken because kids aren't being taught how to think; they aren't even encouraged to do it.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

In general, it's difficult to isolate a single variable when dealing with something this complex. But tell me, what are the odds that students in one specific classroom consistently outperform students in another classroom, year after year, generation after generation? And it just happens by pure coincidence that one group doesn't start learning English in kindergarten, lacks access to TV or the internet, and isn't listening to Alan Nižetić, while the other group is constantly attending international camps and specialized language schools? 😁

There is another metric that speaks volumes about both the school and the instructor—what is the correlation between internal GPA and state-mandated exam results?