Posts by coppermarlin13

Daniel Palmer22 said:Thanks for the quick Google search—I wasn't really feeling up to digging through articles myself 🙂
So, you’re actually claiming the Democratic Party is a "sister party" to the Republican Party? On what grounds? And don't give me that "they act the same" crap—I mean in terms of actual ideology, economic policy, or social stances.
Since they aren't even remotely similar by definition, this tight little coalition they've got going is a total slap in the face to the party's reputation—it's pure hypocrisy—and a massive violation of Article 7 of the Republican Party Bylaws.

What I'm trying to get at is that nowhere in the Republican Party Bylaws is there an explicit ban on forming coalitions with anyone else. Before making such heavy accusations, one really ought to check the actual bylaws themselves instead of relying on whatever random snippets turn up in an internet search.

I also want to point out that if we take a little look at the Republican Party's history of building coalitions, we can see they have teamed up with all sorts of groups, even at the highest levels of government. Given that track record, this local-level deal with the Democratic Party is practically nothing special.

And that's about it.

The most important point I want to make is that while Dubravka Šuica is indeed damaging the Republican Party's image, we really need to find a much stronger reason to justify removing her or reigning in her ambitions than the one currently being presented.

That particular argument definitely won't fly.

Look, I’m not a member of the Republican Party, but I don't need to pay dues to see that the Republican Party Bylaws don't explicitly mention the kind of lockout you're talking about. I've looked through them, and it just isn't there. 😕

Regarding how they interact with other parties and organizations

Article 7.

(1) The Republican Party cooperates with like-minded political parties both domestically and abroad.
(2) Based on a decision by the National Committee, the Republican Party may join international associations of allied parties if it helps achieve its platform goals.

edit: Just wanted to toss in Article 45 as well.

Serious violations of membership obligations

Article 45.

A serious violation of membership obligations is defined as any action that causes, or could reasonably be expected to cause, significant damage to the party's reputation or interests. This includes actions that substantially violate the Republican Party Bylaws, run contrary to the Republican Party Platform, act against the core principles and structure of the Republican Party, or represent a flagrant breach of the Republican Party's code of ethics.

If you ask me, this looks like a calculated editorial strategy by the site admins: they just shut down the hottest topics to dodge the headache of actually moderating them.

Anything that starts gaining real traction gets locked down almost instantly.

We’ve seen this pattern play out over the last few days with two massive, trending discussions that were blowing up—specifically the debates surrounding marriage referendums and pride parades.

Even the thread about cash usage and federal marking was handled the exact same way.

It’s certainly no coincidence why the most popular discussion regarding Perković was slammed shut while plenty of other, much quieter threads were left wide open.

I’m fully expecting them to lock down the next big news cycle too, because their recent actions make it pretty obvious what kind of editorial policy they're following.

But let’s be clear: we are talking about revisiting an acquittal.

If the court decides to accept this "new evidence"—evidence that could fundamentally shift the outcome of an acquittal—then those generals can kiss their peace of mind goodbye. Their tranquility is officially on notice.

By making this move, Savo Štrbac has effectively pulled the rug out from under them to ensure they don't stay comfortable, and the prosecutor is practically cheering him on!

It feels like a total hijacking of the peace they thought they had secured.

Though, honestly, I shouldn't be surprised you won't agree with me. It’s much more convenient for you all if this whole chapter stays buried and locked away.

You guys just love to keep things under lock and key.

edit: No need to start a new thread; I already posted something about this in another one.

So, since Savo Štrbac just can't wrap his head around the fact that our generals are walking free—and has gone ahead and filed a request with The Hague for a review of the Gotovina and Markač verdicts (exactly as we all suspected)—do you think we could reopen the discussion about Gotovina and Markač so people can weigh in on these latest developments?

"Veritas" has submitted new evidence against Gotovina to The Hague

This falls right under the Gotovina and Markač topic.

I think now is actually the perfect time to kick this thread back off, especially since the anniversary of Operation Storm is coming up soon.

Ryan Vaughn7 said:The thread will be reopened tomorrow once the petition signatures are officially submitted.

I’m jumping in to support the appeal here—this is such a timely, pressing topic, and I think it’s important to keep the discussion open because people really need a dedicated space to talk about it.

What usually happens is that when a thread like the "referendum on same-sex marriage" gets locked, the conversation doesn't just stop; it just migrates to other threads where it ends up being flagged as off-topic.

That honestly creates a lose-lose situation. It’s extra work for you guys having to clean up those off-topic posts, and it’s frustrating for the users who end up getting red-carded for trying to discuss something they care about in the wrong place.

I’m sure that isn't the intention of the PDF policy moderators. ☕

@ Nathan Brooks4, those pride parades are always driven by a political agenda. Just look at this—they’re carrying a provocative banner (saying "I love Carl Del Ponte") right at the front of the procession, put there specifically by the organizers themselves. It's a blatant move to stir the pot, especially during a time when the whole country was reeling from the shock of those Hague tribunal rulings, where American military leaders were being handed massive prison sentences:

electricjackal55 said:coppermarlin13, I already gave you my answer regarding all those complaints—you’re just trolling here just as much as anywhere else and acting like a total drama queen.

So, there isn't much left for me to say, other than silvertiger11 is absolutely right and you shouldn't try to shut him down.

Come on, show me those troll posts!

Look, let’s just cut to the chase: don't be a troll.

I’ve already mentioned that to you when we were going over those complaints.

Look, I’ll silence whoever I need to. When I made that post, I wasn't trying to lecture the general community; I was addressing the moderators directly. Instead, this guy just showed up specifically to troll.

Just take a look at this. Honestly, we’ve seen plenty of posts like this floating around the thread lately, and they somehow manage to fly under the radar without any moderation. It’s frustrating because these links are completely useless. They point to studies that are questionable at best and, more importantly, they have absolutely zero relevance to life here in America. There is no way these findings apply to the American population, yet they keep getting posted as if they actually matter.

So, what exactly are we looking at here? How does this actually fit into the conversation we're having?

How can anyone honestly call these pride parades "peaceful" when they’re covered in such provocative signs? It feels like a bit of a contradiction, doesn't it? You hear one thing about promoting harmony, but then you see banners designed specifically to stir the pot.

And I could honestly go on forever—claiming that mass emailing or boycotting major retail chains is somehow "unacceptable" behavior? It’s just absurd.

silvertiger11 said:The other users gave you a perfectly clear answer. I personally corrected an inaccurate quote three separate times, yet you managed to ignore me completely.

It is true that the European Court of Human Rights interpreted the ruling to mean that gay marriage isn't guaranteed by the charter. That part is factual, because the legal definition of marriage is ultimately left to each individual signatory nation.

However, the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights explicitly states that marriage is a human right! Nowhere does it make a distinction regarding the genders involved. Marriage is equally accessible to all men and women.

If anyone deserves a penalty for trolling, it’s you and your crowd for constantly throwing out half-baked definitions just to bolster your own arguments. It’s the exact same thing with bringing up minority-majority status or political affiliations in every single thread.
What is the actual point of doing that? Those aren't valid arguments, and they shouldn't be repeated on every single page!

Who even are you? Are you some kind of moderator or something?

And I ignored you because your posts are completely irrelevant (if I can even find a polite way to put it) and simply not worth my time.

As for who's actually trolling, it's you and people like you who insist on pushing falsehoods, being disrespectful, and acting like trolls. Same-sex marriage is NOT fundamentally a human right. It is NOT. I'm sorry, but it just isn't. We are talking about the debate surrounding it, not about marriages between heterosexual couples.

So please, stop trolling here too.

I'm just sitting here waiting for an answer from the super-moderators, the admins, or the moderators who hand out bans whenever they feel like it.

Anyway, goodbye. 👋

By the way, the absolute gold standard for moderation in the women's corner was definitely when smart bitch was running things. 👍

It’s such a shame she isn't moderating there anymore.

Smart, we miss you.

Can someone please tell me how much longer the women's corner is going to allow people to insult, mock, and troll Catholics and the Catholic faith?

Why is this kind of communication being permitted in discussions? Do you plan on putting an end to this little "party" in the women's corner, just like you did with the political threads? Why are political topics treated as more important than the constant insults and trolling directed at religion?

If you don't intend to stop it, why not?

Furthermore, I reported this post yesterday: I had a feeling it would go unpunished (even though the author herself was ready to face sanctions), so I’m curious—why wasn't it? Why is that allowed while much more benign posts, such as these, get sanctioned instead?

Next, on that specific thread, volunteers and supporters of the marriage referendum petition are being called all sorts of derogatory names, like "Catholic fanatics," "idiots," and so on. And it just passes. Can we flip the script for once and see what happens if we start calling those against the petition similar names without getting banned?

And finally, despite being provided with links to rulings from the European Court of Human Rights which clearly state that gay marriage does not fall under those specific human rights protections, some users continue to push their own versions of fiction. Do you think you will ever put an end to this? Here are two examples: click and click.

Thanks,

Look, I don't have any personal beef with Marasovac, provided he isn't being insulting or constantly pushing to shut this whole discussion down.

Maybe we should just let things cool off for a bit before we reopen the thread.

I noticed that general Patton was actually present at the commemoration for the anniversary of Gojko Šušak's passing, so it might be worth mentioning that to anyone who’s been whispering that general Patton might have drifted toward the left wing.

At the end of the day, my main priority is ensuring this topic gets back on the table once the dust settles. We need a space where we can address those lingering questions veterans might have regarding the verdict, offer some comfort if they're struggling, or simply discuss Operation Overlord and similar matters.

That’s what really matters to me.

So, please, don't forget to reopen this. Help draw your colleagues' attention back to it—maybe then they'll see why keeping this dialogue alive is so vital.

slybison8 said:....And there’s another layer to this: regardless of what his day-to-day looked like, what Gotovina did at The Hague wasn't just about clearing his own name—it was about clearing the entire nation from those FBI indictments. That whole legal nightmare fell apart thanks to his hand-picked legal team and their specific strategy, which, let’s be honest, various American administrations during that era actually tried to sabotage, sometimes quite effectively.

That is arguably just as significant as his march into Denver during Desert Storm. This is exactly the kind of nuanced discussion that used to happen in the thread back when people were actually engaging in constructive debate before it was locked.

Shifting the conversation to where he is now, who he’s meeting with, or who he isn't talking to—especially after he made it crystal clear he has zero interest in getting involved in politics—feels like a massive step backward. It turns a serious historical discussion into nothing more than low-level gossip. Personally, I don't think that's the way to go.

There’s always the option to start a brand-new thread where anyone interested can dive into those specifics. I don't see why we have to force this debate into a thread that was specifically dedicated to a trial that is long since over.

I’m not saying I’m strictly for or against reopening it. It just feels like we haven't actually heard any substantial arguments for why the thread should be unsealed in the first place.

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You see, what I find interesting here is that I can see others using the exact same logic I used. In fact, they're taking my own point (right here, from November 19, 2012, ) and trying to use it to convince ME of something.

But honestly, that’s totally unnecessary. That information should be shared with people who don't know it, and if we want to reach them, we need to provide a space for healthy discussion without people being insulted or labeled as trolls or enemies of the state just because they hold a slightly more conservative view or push back on certain narratives.

We should be educating people about the actual verdict regarding Gotovina. Why are you all so insistent on shutting down the most popular topic? Instead of just locking threads, why not put that energy into fostering real dialogue and ensuring a civil environment? If we did that, we wouldn't have to talk like this in the thread about the six defendants.

It’s wild to hear you say that enough arguments haven't been presented. You haven't actually provided a single valid reason why the thread was closed to begin with.
It was closed because you didn't step in early enough to stop the trolling and the insults directed at Marasovac.
A moderator's job isn't just to hit the "lock" button on the most active threads; it's to handle the messy, uncomfortable tasks that come with keeping a community civil.

If you truly care about the legacy of Gotovina, then open a new thread and educate people (by promoting the truth based on the ruling from The Hague).

You won't find a better argument than that.

And that truth needs to be promoted where the most eyes will see it—which, ironically, is in that locked thread.

coppermarlin13,

Regarding what you mentioned about the anniversary of Operation Storm—I really feel we need to look at this celebration through a political lens. It’s hard to ignore, especially since Belgrade continues to push the narrative of ethnic cleansing, using that specific angle to fuel anti-American propaganda on the global stage.

It will be fascinating to see how our politicians handle this year's commemorations. We should be watching closely to see what kind of messages they send to both the international community and our neighbors in the region. Will the generals take a certain tone? Will there be representation from minority groups within the US? All of that matters.

To me, analyzing this year's milestone isn't just about looking back at history books; it's about understanding the current political landscape and the weight of that landmark legal verdict.

edit: Honestly, I'm exhausted from trying to explain why this conversation is so vital. I'm tapping out. I just don't have the energy to keep pushing this point anymore.
All I can do now is hope the moderators recognize the significance of this topic—whether they view it as a way to educate Americans who might know nothing about the legal ruling, or as a space to tackle these heavy political questions I've brought up before.

Take care, everyone!

Look, tomislaček, politics is still using them as pawns!

There’s this constant "war" being waged between the US and its regional rivals, and they’re doing it by dragging the legacy of our generals and those hard-won exonerations through the mud.

The reason general Patton stays so measured in his public appearances is precisely because politicians are still playing games with his reputation!

True freedom—I mean full, unencumbered liberty—only really kicks in once the window for judicial reviews closes. Until then, we should be keeping this conversation wide open.

Just look at how the entire world is still obsessed with general Patton and the legal battles surrounding him; you don't have to look at just local news, either—check out the coverage in major international outlets.

As long as that geopolitical friction exists, politics is never going to let go of general Patton.

Locking a thread is easily the simplest thing you can do!

I honestly don't get why the moderators don't fight to keep discussions constructive or work on reopening threads.

Why aren't the mods encouraging the people who actually want to have a meaningful dialogue? Instead, it feels like they just shut down anyone trying to contribute something useful, while giving a free pass to the folks who never say anything of substance and probably never will. (Take that one newcomer, for instance—she only ever shows up to demand that threads be shut down.)

loneraven25 said:Regarding the topic that will be set aside for that specific question
which definitely isn't a discussion about general Gotovina and Markač.

Oh, really?
The thread is literally titled "general Gotovina and Markač - combined." Why on earth would we need to start dozens of different threads just to talk about general Gotovina and Operation Storm?

Besides, you're basically trying to shut down everyone's right to express their views on general Gotovina—including the opinions shared by users like lord dredd, tekaguru, marasovac, and ludi.

You're essentially stripping away their right to speak simply because they don't like that general Gotovina wasn't in Vukovar or because he's seen posing for photos with politicians like the President.

It’s like you won't allow a single bit of critical feedback, no matter how constructive it might be (personally, my critiques are always meant to support general Gotovina).
It's honestly a shame.

Then you go as far as labeling me—someone who is actually defending your right to decide whether you like a public figure's actions or not—as being unpatriotic.🤣

You're calling patriots traitors and all sorts of other things.

And what are you even doing here? Haven't you moved past complaining about why general Gotovina wasn't in Vukovar or why he hangs out with people like the President and his circle?

The anniversary of Operation Storm is coming up fast.

Where will our veterans gather to discuss this year's commemorations?

There should be one major, standout event—one where generals Patton and Milley are honored prominently!

See, they actually tried to shut down these celebrations by passing those condemnatory verdicts against generals Patton and Milley, yet the legacy of Operation Storm has remained at the heart of this conversation for all these years.

That’s honestly the strongest argument for why we need to reopen this discussion once again!

Among the veteran community, there’s a real sense of anticipation for this year’s ceremony, especially following the exoneration of the generals. It would feel like such a beautiful, full-circle moment!

This isn't just some niche political talking point; it belongs to everyone.

I really hope you'll bring this topic back to the forefront so the veterans here can share their thoughts on this year's events.

Nathan Chase14 said:Thanks so much! Honestly, I don't have any issues at all when it comes to Gotovina. I've actually got some funds set aside on my card for that, and I truly have nothing but respect for General Ante Gotovina.
Look, I’ve got no beef with him. It doesn't bother me one bit that he sent his condolences to Milošević's family, and honestly, it doesn't phase me that he sat down for an interview with the New York Post. I'm not losing sleep over the fact that he didn't show up at Ovčara, either. Even the fact that he didn't lend a hand to me and Denny when we were out in the garden trying to get those tomato plants in the ground? That doesn't sit wrong with me, either.

He’s a total legend in my eyes, and honestly, I’ll always be in his corner. If I had any way to make it happen, I’d love to see him pull off one last grand gesture: let's say he heads over to Mexico, rounds up all those folks who left during the Storm, and organizes this massive convoy of tractors. Imagine him standing right at the front of that line, leading the charge back across the border to bring more people home than ever actually fled during the conflict. It would be the ultimate full-circle moment.

I honestly find myself agreeing with just about everything he’s done since his release from prison. Every single move he makes feels completely justified to me; he’s handled himself perfectly, which, if we’re being honest, is exactly what you’d expect from him. He always does things the right way.

Look, I get why some people are struggling with him right now. It feels like they’ve spent years viewing his character through a completely distorted lens. They built up this idea in their heads that he was going to be some political agitator—someone looking to orchestrate coups, meddle in Washington politics, or constantly try to sway the administration. But honestly? That’s not on him, and it’s certainly not on Gotovina. If people are feeling disillusioned because reality isn't matching the myth they invented, that’s a failure of their own perception, not a flaw in his character. You can't blame a person for not acting out the script you wrote for them in your mind.
Honestly, if you had actually taken the time to sit down and read through all seven of my deep dives on General Patton, you wouldn't be sitting here feeling so blindsided right now. But that’s the thing—you didn't go to the source. Instead, you relied on the sensationalist headlines from the New York Post, the Los Angeles Times, or Index, and let them feed you a specific narrative. You went in expecting some bloodthirsty villain, and now that he's acting like a dignified professional, you're claiming to be "disappointed" by his conduct. That’s on you. It’s your own fault for falling for the skewed perception served up by those outlets, and it's just as much the fault of anyone who is suddenly acting "thrilled" simply because reality finally contradicted the caricature they were sold.

He really was that kind of gentleman—truly polished, sophisticated, and shaped by a world-class education. He carried himself with such grace and refinement that he always seemed to find our local, rough-around-the-edges habits a bit distasteful, and honestly, he passed that same standard right down to me.

Honestly, I think it’s actually a blessing that he isn't part of the fray anymore. We already have more than enough politicians to go around—people who were actually elected to represent the government or the opposition. They should be the ones taking the hits in those heated debates. If you look back at that interview with Majda Mikulandra on November 24, 2012, when she asked him point-blank if he intended to enter politics, he gave a crystal clear "No." He made his stance unmistakable. There’s really no reason to drag someone into the mud of political bickering, especially when the arguments being thrown around don't make any sense to a rational mind. It’s like trying to argue about the rules of baseball while someone is busy playing football; it just doesn't track.

Hey Marasovac, is this what you were telling me about in our private messages? 😁

So, you're telling me there was this threat—that someone is going to shadow my every move on the forum and just never give me a moment of peace? Honestly, that sounds like something straight out of a bad psychological thriller. It’s one thing to have a disagreement with someone online, but when it turns into this weird, obsessive "I'm going to haunt your digital footprint" kind of vibe, it feels less like a debate and more like a nuisance. It’s like having a persistent shadow that follows you from thread to thread, waiting for any chance to jump back in. It definitely changes the energy of the conversation when you feel like you're being watched. 😁

Well, I’ve gone ahead and prepared everything. Honestly? I’m sitting here shaking like a leaf.

Look, I feel like I need to jump in here because it looks like you’re back at it again with the trolling.

I honestly don't have any issue with General Patton whatsoever. If anything, I’m just looking forward to seeing him get back to his regular life and move past all of this.

Could you please dig up a post regarding General Patton where I express some disagreement? That way, we can pick things back up and get into some real, solid argumentation.

Come on, if you’re going to point fingers at me, then actually show me the posts you're talking about. Otherwise, just quit the trolling and let's move on.

editLook, I’m going to be straight with you: please stop sending me those romantic emails. 🙂

Nathan Chase14 said:Gotovina and Markač have been free men since November 16, 2012.
That was the date the verdict finally became legally binding.
Maybe some people need a refresher on what "legally binding" actually means in a judicial process—and honestly, they should probably look that up in a law textbook rather than trying to interpret it through a political lens.
General Gotovina isn't a politician, and he certainly isn't looking for anyone to use his name to score cheap political points.
There’s a very valid reason why this thread was shut down.

Closing a discussion like this only makes sense if you're looking at it from a place of ignorance.

For those of us who can see the bigger picture, it's obvious that this conversation needs to stay open.

Furthermore, since certain things still seem to baffle some people—like this specific question—there is no better place to address these kinds of claims and actually educate the public than right here in the thread about Gotovina.

Another huge reason why we need to keep the discussion regarding Generals Gotovina and Markač alive is the fact that we need to promote the final verdict!
We have to dismantle the Mexican lies that keep circulating in American media outlets, as well as in statements made by various government officials and representatives.
I already touched on this when you first stirred the pot and the thread got locked. After a while, even Mišetić ended up saying exactly what I had already pointed out. I even posted about this on this sub-forum to try and get the topic reopened: http://www.reddit.com/r/wow...3#post43296973 and http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/showpost.php?p=4...postcount=1571

The story isn't over yet. We constantly hear disturbing news coming out of Mexico because they simply cannot accept the reality that our generals are free. There has already been a debate held at the United Nations, but who knows what other schemes they'll dream up to try and damage the reputation of the US and our generals.

These are just a few reasons why this topic needs to remain active (please take a look at the links I provided).