Honestly, Leeno, you’d be much better off just offering a sincere apology for spending the last six months slandering me as some kind of clone, rather than sitting here trying to play along with these little forum jokes and cheap shots. 😁
Gnu, I’m going to ask you one more time to actually stick to the topic and try showing a little bit of basic decency. We all see right through what you're doing—you're clearly just trying to get this thread shut down before Nice can finally clear the air about who’s an actual human being and who’s some sort of clone, but honestly, you don't have to be quite so obvious about it. 🕺
Elizabeth Jackson, Daniel Davis40, and stormyrider28, I’m going to need you all to show a little more decorum and act appropriately in my thread; this isn't the Alternative subforum where you can just scribble whatever nonsense pops into your heads.
If you’ve got some grievance regarding how I or anyone else is behaving, feel free to start a whole different thread over on the PŽK boards, though I doubt this will be your first time needing a dedicated space for complaints. This specific discussion is strictly about debunking the lies surrounding clones.😉
And please, stop trying to derail the conversation; it’s pretty obvious you're just trying to get this thread shut down before Nice can actually confirm that we aren't clones.🕺
Ethan Barrett22 said:Honestly, if you want to annoy the supermods, just keep starting these kinds of threads; it’s pretty obvious this endless back-and-forth every other day is already getting under their skin. 🙄
The topic at hand... It just won't close. Until everyone finally wakes up to the truth about who’s actually a clone and who isn't, we're all just spinning our wheels.
And all you're left to do is sit there and whine. 🕺
1. Oh, really? Then what exactly am I looking at here?
2. Because let’s be honest, this is nothing more than malicious slander, specifically engineered to drag down anyone who actually used logic to dismantle your little clique. Back when the discussions about clones were actually gaining traction, you all—and especially you—just played the troll to shut the whole thing down, since your goal isn't to prove that Brenda Gonzalez12, Monism, Plant, urbangull90, Arthur Smith15, Linda Moore51, or I aren't clones. It’s because once someone finally proves it, you won't have any more excuses left to hide behind. And then, you'll be completely exposed.
3. You certainly seem to know a suspicious amount about how cloning conspiracies are covered up. 😁 I can't help but wonder...
And once again, you’re acting like you’re the one stepping in to call out what you label as "nonsense," playing the victim perfectly. Look, if it bothers you so much, then just stop posting in the thread altogether—but we both know that isn't the plan. Your actual objective is to troll the discussion into silence so that the truth about who is actually a clone and who isn't stays buried forever.
They’re too busy hurling insults over at Alternative, knowing full well they can get away with whatever they want there without consequence.
Take, for instance, what Peter Peterson sent my way today:
Peter Peterson said:To keep going, you're nothing more than some attention-starved old lady with far too much free time, desperate for a scrap of validation that none of these forum users can give you—whether it's because they're following the site rules or simply because they actually possess a shred of common sense.
. So there it is.
.
Now get lost, you absolute wreck.
Notice how this genius even went out of his way to address me in the feminine.
Since it seems like someone on the Alternative subforum takes it upon themselves to jump out of the woodwork every five minutes just to flag me as some kind of sockpuppet, I’d like to ask the moderators for a quick favor:
Could you please verify whether I actually have any other accounts besides this one (the alleged "clone") that I'm using here on Alternative?
As for the people who have spent the last six months shamelessly lying and slandering me—those who resort to calling me a clone simply because they lack any actual arguments—well, I don't exactly have the spare time right now to upload every single one of their lies, but expect that to happen within the next 24 hours. In the meantime, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't close this thread, if at all possible; my priority right now is finally putting to rest these ridiculous claims and proving once and for all that I am not a clone.
But seriously... where did that "local" Exo clone guy go? 🤔
I actually spent some time being labeled as someone's clone too, which basically meant I was lumped into his little collection of fake accounts in his signature.
He didn't even try to hide it, bragging about it right there on the Siro food posts, at least until I threatened him with a very public confrontation over at the local courthouse.
And wouldn't you know it, suddenly I've vanished from his usual list, and now I have the distinct honor of being separated by a single comma. 🤣
Hey, it’s been ages since we actually had a decent discussion about an alternative to the presidential candidate, hasn't it? It feels like it's been nearly two months 🙏 🤣
stormyrider28 said:So this guy just keeps going and going, and honestly, nobody’s doing anything about it. It makes me wonder... what does he actually have to do before he finally gets what's coming to him?
Sandra Kern37, even Monty suggested the exact same thing a while back... it's actually kind of weird... If someone read your posts without seeing your handle and asked them to guess who was writing, they'd say it was Monty in a heartbeat. It's the same writing style, the same vocabulary, the same tone, 100%... the same arrogance, the same mockery, harassing the same people in the same way without a shred of proof, bashing the same people and the same topics over and over, twisting what others actually said... for me, that's more than enough. But hey, if that's how you want to live your life, then I truly hope you enjoy it...
Who is talking about what? This guy is back on his clone obsession again. ☕
The day before yesterday you claimed I was Exotericon, yesterday you insisted I was Arthur Smith15, and today suddenly I'm Monty. Pick a lane already. 😁
What could you possibly know about literary styles, considering you were under the impression just yesterday that Josip Broz Marshall wrote the Iliad?
You all pretend to be these sophisticated little quasi-alternative types, but the mask is finally slipping and we're seeing who you really are.
Shame on you; you are nothing more than a moral vacuum, breathing down the necks of anyone who refuses to believe the nonsense peddled by your mentor and his ilk.
I see that the link he posted has absolutely nothing to do with the topic again... just his usual way of twisting things and planting false ideas, which honestly only ends up proving your point. It’s pretty funny how whenever he isn't specifically calling people out, you don't even see Arthur Smith15 or Sandra Kern37 popping up anymore...
What I find truly fascinating is how you continue this deliberate, conscious campaign to sabotage anyone on this Reddit who doesn't echo your exact sentiments, dragging them down to the level of some supposed "clone" just to stay in the good graces of your mentor and supreme overlord, Elizabeth Jackson. ☕
Or maybe you're just following orders from her; I'm sure this isn't the first time you've played the puppet, right? 😁
Honestly, you should be embarrassed.
Just a few days ago, I laid down a bet: if I actually am some kind of clone, feel free to ban me, but if I'm not, then you should be the one getting the boot for spreading nothing but rumors. Miraculously, you didn't respond to my challenge, which makes me wonder why that is. 🤣
I'd welcome the actual moderators to step in and verify whether I have any clones or not, assuming they can catch on as quickly as a drunk stumbling through a dark alley. Or perhaps that isn't the goal here, because once there is official proof that this is my one and only account, you won't have anything left to hide behind, will you? 🤔
Gregory Ramirez2 said:Why all this bickering instead of just teaming up to find some moderators for the Alternative section? Even if you just started with a "police officer" type of moderator, someone just there to keep things civil and maintain order on the PDF...
If we actually did that, most of the posts here on PŻK regarding the Alternative would either be unnecessary or wouldn't even happen in the first place.
Nica?
I can’t help but wonder if you’d actually step up to play the role of the "neighborhood cop," or if you’d just leave all that heavy lifting to your guru, Elizabeth Jackson. So, which one of you two should we direct our death stares toward?
But you’re forgetting one crucial thing—an alternative needs actual moderation, not the kind of tyranny or dictatorship that you two would undoubtedly run with if you were left in charge of the thread. 😁
stormyrider28 said:Look, if you’re using a bunch of different profiles just to claim someone is a guru, then fine, he’s a guru to you, haha. Honestly, I’ve gotta admire how much this guy has gotten under your skin... the way you chase him all over Reddit, bringing him up in every single thread, twisting every conversation back to him... you’ve been hitting him with the same tired, nasty old routine for months now, but you still can't produce a single link showing where he actually breaks a rule. Man, you're just being exhausting at this point... attacking him from multiple accounts without a single shred of proof because he isn't even breaking the rules, and even this profile was probably made just to target him, yet there's zero evidence here. Nothing. To everyone else, the guy is a total gentleman and a model of how to act properly on this site. See what he did to you? He absolutely crushed you without even trying. It's obvious to everyone that you hate his guts and you're constantly attacking him from every angle... wasting your time, making clones just for him, and trying to turn this whole thread into an off-topic rant about him. You're totally fixated, but you've got nothing on him—not one link. And he doesn't even care about you half the time. Props to him, really!! This thread is supposed to be about Exotericon; we put plenty of links in here to show exactly how he operates on the site and where he violates the rules. And honestly, any post like this that doesn't include actual evidence is usually just seen as harassment or targeting users, which definitely carries sanctions.
It’s pretty ironic how you can sit there preaching about persecution while making these baseless accusations without providing a shred of evidence—essentially doing the exact thing you're complaining about.
For what it's worth, I have no idea where you got the notion that I'm some kind of clone; I suppose when you've run out of actual things to say, you just start inventing lies to fill the void.
So, why don't we make a bet? If I have even one other account besides this one, go ahead and ban me. But if I don't, then you should be the one facing a ban since you're clearly so confident in your delusions. Are you feeling brave enough now to repeat those slanderous claims?
stormyrider28 said:Yeah, okay, so I joked once about wanting to make a few bucks just to be interested in being a mod... I really thought people would get that it was a joke... I don't care about being a moderator at all, not even if they paid me. But seriously, it makes zero sense that they can't find some kind of alternative moderator for an entire year, yet they let this one guy come in here and insult the whole Reddit community with every single post he makes...
What a bunch of lowlifes... man, you are seriously obsessed... this thread is literally about a female user opening up about a guy who insults everyone around him. Is it okay with you that someone is being that disrespectful? I don't see you offering any actual solutions, you're just obsessed with these gurus. And since there's only one person on this site obsessed with a guru—and we all know who—it's not hard to figure out which handles are hiding behind the screen based on the way they write. Thanks for the help and for basically outing yourself... But right now, what matters is Quote : Exotericon.
You’re the one who’s obsessed with your master, this so-called guru Elizabeth Jackson. It’s like he says, "Jump!" and you shout, "I'm jumping!" over and over again. One day, when he eventually fades into the footnotes of Alternative history and some other "guru" steps up to take his place, you'll be right back at it, hopping along for the new guy and reporting anyone who dares to write even a single word against him. It's an endless cycle. 😉
What have you actually contributed to any topic regarding the alternative scene, other than playing puppy for one specific user? Both you and Exotericon are equally malicious. The difference is that his writing is actually somewhat engaging. You, on the other hand, are just exhausting and insufferable with this whole amateur intelligence agency act you've got going on.
And to all these jokers, sorcerers, and charlatans who are subtly trying to worm their way into moderator positions, let me say this again (even though I've already said it): A moderator shouldn't be someone who thinks the Earth is flat. Or someone who claims that raw food can cure cancer. Or someone who harasses waiters in downtown Chicago and then comes back here to brag about it.
Sure, but I don't think the moderator should be someone who genuinely believes the Earth is flat. Or someone claiming that eating raw food is some kind of miracle cure for cancer. Or even someone who spends their time harassing waiters in Washington, D.C., only to turn around and brag about it on Reddit later. ☕
The alternative is to find a moderator who is actually neutral—ideally someone who hasn't even touched that PDF and wouldn't know what to write on that sub-forum if their life depended on it.
Elizabeth Jackson said:I’ve noticed a few things regarding this matter myself. It makes me wonder—are we seeing the beginning of the end for this Forum? If this lack of moderation continues to bleed into other topics, I suppose it isn't particularly difficult to predict exactly where this is all heading. It feels like an inevitable slide.
It seems more than obvious that there are certain people for whom this particular topic—and honestly, this entire sub-forum—is the single biggest thorn in their side. It’s become quite a defining feature of their lives, I suppose. Still, I have to admit, I always find a certain quiet satisfaction in watching them obsessively dwell on the very things that seem to bother them so deeply. 😁
And just who exactly is deciding all of this? I mean, what kind of criteria are they actually using, what methods are being applied, and what sort of qualifications do these people even possess to make such determinations? 🤷 You’re basically calling me Superman, bluemason3, just because I stepped up to moderate. That’s incredibly kind of you, though I’d say I was more of a steady hand on the wheel than a caped crusader. 🙏
Sandra Kern37, please, let’s not be quite so obvious about it. Could you at least try to vary your writing style? 🤦 Consider yourself ignored from here on out, and that goes for this handle too. Happy New Year. 👋
I have one and only one username on this Forum, and that’s the one I’m using. Even the moderators can double-check that if they want, so we can see what’s actually happening here. 😉
Since you've completely run out of actual arguments, you've resorted to just spewing falsehoods and lies, mostly because you're bitter that fewer and fewer people are buying into your nonsense.
Who would even bother moderating that asylum, that circus, that absolute joke of a sub-forum?
I don't want to generalize—and credit where it's due to those rare exceptions on Alternative who actually bring arguments to the table instead of just empty nonsense—but all their hard work basically goes down the drain because of a few certain individuals.
The most realistic solution would be to just merge Alternative with Vic’s board, so people could actually get a good laugh at all these self-proclaimed gurus and charlatans who pour their souls into screaming their delusions into the void over there.😁