Posts by hollowdrifter3

Whether soy is actually good or bad just depends on which study you decide to believe. Purely by the numbers, there are more studies claiming it's beneficial. According to general encyclopedic data:

I don't touch soy myself; I can't stand the taste. That DM powder has 4.5% soy in it. If you take 30g of powder a day, even if it does have estrogen, it’s at least a thousand times less than what’s in birth control pills—which, for the record, I take. Whatever. Personally, the artificial sweeteners bother me more, though people can never agree if aspartame is carcinogenic or not. Probably less dangerous than cell phone radiation...

It raises estrogen levels. It has a BV of 49. It digests much slower than whey (which is 104). It won't kill you, obviously, but there are better protein sources out there. Some claim soy has health benefits, but I'm not getting into that; I don't eat it either, for the same reasons you don't.

Regarding this idea that it's a milk protein rather than whey. Someone please explain the lingo to me, because in English "whey" refers to the liquid separated from milk during cheesemaking. Whey *is* a milk protein, so what else would it be? You guys always recommend cottage cheese or low-fat yogurt in the bodybuilding community—so why are these milk proteins suddenly bad?

Whey digests much faster than casein, making it the superior choice for PWM. Cottage cheese, for instance, is a great option for your last meal of the day. Micellar casein is designed to provide a steady release of amino acids into the bloodstream, which makes it an excellent long-term anti-catabolic protein.

To me, the posts on this fitness forum just sound like hearsay—people repeating negative opinions without any actual basis. Sure, maybe the powder tasted gross to someone a few years ago, but it doesn't taste bad to me today. I like vanilla, my friend likes chocolate 🤷 What kind of argument is that?

Yeah, there's plenty of misinformation passed around through word-of-mouth, but there's also plenty of useful stuff to read. For example, the FAQ is perfect for anyone who doesn't know the difference between steroids and protein, or sets and reps. I tried it two years ago, by the way, and it really was disgusting 😁

You're saying it's definitely bad because it's cheap, while others in this thread say it isn't even cheap and that there are better, cheaper options—but they can't explain why. What am I supposed to conclude from that?

No clue. High-quality whey certainly won't cost less than that protein powder from DM.

Donna Johnson16 said:From everything I’ve read, I’m getting mixed signals. People say it's bad, but they aren't explaining why. It's one thing to say the taste was gross a few years ago, but claiming a product with only 4% carbs is "loaded with lactose"??? Someone did an independent lab test on the powder and found almost zero deviation, so how does that work? Lactose is just milk sugar, which falls under carbohydrates. Was that German label on the Walmart product back in 2012 just lying?

I won't get bogged down in the weeds here. I haven't done deep research and I don't have a degree in nutrition. I'm just passing along what I picked up while scouring the web for info on this specific protein supplement.
The first red flag is the soy isolate. That was the first thing I turned up— http://forum.teretana.net/viewtopic....b398e60afde80c . I recall seeing a study about it on T-Mag, too. If we're talking about soy, I think it's a disaster, but that's a whole other conversation and not really what we need right now...
Then again, you could argue that since there isn't much of it, there's not much to complain about.
I'm on my phone so I can't scroll up easily to check, but I'm pretty sure the main ingredient is milk protein, not whey. If I'm right, then you already know that whey is one of the best choices for post-workout meals.
At the end of the day, what high-quality product actually costs this little? 🙂

Kenneth Jackson3 said:I stick strictly to Optimum Nutrition—specifically the Double Rich Chocolate. It’s decent with water, but mixing it with milk? Absolute perfection... 😁

Don't even bother with Mocha Cappuccino unless you plan on drinking it with milk. I've lost nearly two pounds because it's a struggle to get down with just water... 😁

Caramel Toffee and Extreme Milk are my go-tos. Every single time I shop, I end up trying a new flavor... 😁

Donna Johnson16 said:Actually, I tried typing this into Google first, but nothing came up. Does that mean those percentages—4.5% soy and 91% whey declared by the Germans on the box—aren't actually true?

By the way, I peeled off the American translation label, and the original packaging also claims 91% milk protein.🤔

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Most proteins sent for lab testing showed at least some minor deviation from the label, usually just traces of soy. But that’s not even the real issue. The real issue is that the whey is loaded with lactose, while the soy is an isolate. At least, that's what they say.

I read about those Walmart proteins a long time ago, back when I wasn't nearly as educated on this stuff as I am now.🙂

Here are a few links. Read through them; it's mostly just old forum discussions. You'll run into some nonsense, like people claiming the flaws were caused by something else. Ignore that.😁 Just focus on the actual quality and the whole deal with the soy isolate.

http://www.building-body.com/forum/t...oteini-iz-DM-a
http://forum.teretana.net/viewtopic....49f43b40af27e4
http://forum.teretana.net/viewtopic....8045cc3147f106
http://forum.teretana.net/viewtopic....a492a686c4bfea
http://forum.teretana.net/viewtopic.php?t=7192
http://forum.teretana.net/viewtopic....6b412c94a85762
http://forum.teretana.net/viewtopic....a38cdb19307f4d
http://forum.teretana.net/viewtopic....d701dfc784a11b

Google, my friend. Use Google.🙂

There’s already a thread about him. Generally speaking, they're loaded with soy fillers—hardly high quality, though the price tag should have tipped you off. Just Google it; some guy on a bodybuilding forum posted a photo of lab results for a tested sample. Honestly, just shell out a little more cash and buy an honest whey protein...

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urbanangler9 said:Where's the best deal on a 5 kg bar—or rather, 4.5 kg...$167?

Looks like I messed up the math somewhere. I found the cheapest option at $630.

velvetmoose9 said:This is dragging on way too long. Could be an old injury resurfacing. Wrapping it up is just doing yourself a disservice—you’re likely aggravating the joint while just masking the pain and delaying a real fix. Go see a doctor. At least get a basic checkup and maybe an X-ray or some blood work. Those ointments and gels rarely penetrate deep enough into the joint; they're mostly good for surface-level issues.

Thanks for the input. I have a physical scheduled soon, so I'll mention the pain and ask for an X-ray referral...

I’m dealing with something similar. I really should have taken it seriously and gone to see a doctor or something, but I haven't... I can't even do a push-up without feeling this sharp pressure in my right wrist. It hit me mid-workout during a CrossFit session a few months back, and it hasn't let up since. I still try to push through with push-ups, but only if I wrap the wrist tight with a brace. I've tried everything—Tiger Balm, Voltaren, Advil... you name it. Usually, push-ups are the only exercise that triggers this pain.

Jesse Sanchez4 said:I just realized I have about 2 lbs of whey protein left in a large 5 lb jar—the expiration date says 03/2011. By my math, that leftover amount is worth $83, and I hate the idea of throwing away 😁.

The lid was tight, the powder stayed dry, and it’s still a fine powder; the smell and taste seem totally normal. I wouldn't say it's spoiled... But honestly, I have no clue if there's any nutritional value left in it.

I also have half a jar of creatine (09/2011), which I assume would still be perfectly fine to use.

What's your take?

I always take my whey even if the expiration is within six months. I still have 500g left and haven't had any side effects so far...😁

Toronto-New Jersey Nets 1.30 1

Philadelphia-Detroit Pistons 1.25 1

Charlotte-Atlanta Hawks 2.05 1

Boston-Indiana Pacers 1.40 1

Dwight Howard (-21.5+)-Orl-Chi 1.85 under

New Orleans (191.5)-Denver 1.80 under

Oklahoma City-Houston Rockets 1.25 1

Kevin Durant (-28.5+)-Okl-Hou 1.85 over

LA Lakers-Golden State Warriors 1.20 1

Love K.(dk)-Bargnani A 1.60 1

Which ones would you cut from this list? One is definitely going down, but most of these look like solid picks. Maybe skip the Durant over... or maybe Charlotte actually pulls it off...🤷

It's going to hit hard in Motovun. 🙂

Rachel Torres91 said:Out of all the highlights, my favorite has to be when the guy dives straight into the meat grinder and they have to fish him out! XD

Quotes:

"Maybe he'll walk it off"

Oh yeah, definitely the funniest part of the movie... 🤣 🤣 🤣

The movie is actually pretty funny. It leans a bit too hard on clichés, and Ally just doesn't feel real, but there are definitely scenes worth watching... 😁

Watched the duo and honestly, I'm not a fan at all. But if I were running the studio, I’d greenlight a third one with a decent script in a heartbeat for way less money—it would be a guaranteed cash cow.

It’s just Pitch Black, everything else is mediocre...

Just finished watching Bedhead. Honestly... it’s a step forward for him. 😬 I couldn't tell if those kids were actually his (David and Rebecca), but man, it felt pretty amateurish.

On another note, I actually enjoyed Once Upon a Time in Mexico, and Machete was a blast. I can't stand Spy Kids, though, but that's nothing new.

I wasn't feeling anything after that SPOILER scene where he's in the apartment, kills the guy, and there's blood everywhere . From that point on, it just felt pointless. Up until then, it was great, but they should have gone with a darker, more gritty ending instead of making everything all rosy after everything he did.

Fair enough. It’s an entertaining watch, even if things get a bit over the top toward the end... but yeah, it works.

Yeah, on YouTube too.

Looks okay, we'll see...

Just downloaded Elite Squad, Elite Squad 2, City of God, and City of Men. Counting down the days until Friday...😎