Michelle Phillips54 said:Why is the main board getting dragged into this now? If you have issues with how the main sub-forum is being moderated, just say so—but I have to point out that the people posting there aren't some clueless kids, nor are they just blindly following whatever happens... The main sub-forum is more strictly moderated, but there's a good reason for that—it doesn't really make sense to compare it to the general chat area. Even if things seem a bit extreme sometimes, I don't think Amtrak would be flooded with complaints against us, which hasn't happened.
This isn't about you or Nico, but it definitely has everything to do with Saša—who, honestly, when he goes in there to clean things up, the grass practically stops growing. I've asked Tyndall to take a look at this; if you guys don't know what's going on, or if you're afraid to speak up, or something else entirely... just please refrain from off-topic comments. I'd really love for this thread to make it to its conclusion in one relatively cohesive piece...
If I ever have an issue with your moderation, I'll let you know—either privately or over on Amtrak. Don't worry about it.
And then, just to have the last word, Klonci says:
klonka, that was an insult—just poorly wrapped in a joke, fueled by this silly idea that the off-topic subforum is somehow exempt from the rules that apply to the rest of the site it isn't, and it won't be, I guarantee it a relaxed atmosphere—sure, joking around—is fine, and talking about whatever you want—that's okay too but insults, provocation, belittling others, and general malice simply won't fly here and the off-topic section won't become some unmoderated corner where any idiot can run wild
In the meantime, I accept the apology and am lifting the warning and the ban, but please, keep your grievances in the appropriate sections.
When you compare that to how he was talking to Joseph Ward2... 🤷
Edit: So, wait—under which specific site rules does something worth 500 points get wiped away just because of an apology? The site is full of people offering apologies, yet they don't get unbanned. From what I can see, it seems like he actually knows he broke the rules, but he just doesn't have the guts to admit it—so instead, he puts on this act of being a saint seeking forgiveness, once again ignoring the actual Forum rules. I hope it’s clearer now why and how Lastan and the others lost their cool.
Seriously, Tyndall, just move him away from there. Please.
Alright, so to save you from having to dig through everything—this is where it all started...
ZgSash said:The traditional reasons really boil down to this—the entire community used to pitch in to help the newlyweds get their start... We were building this house from the ground up—everyone was chipping in however they could, whether it was donating livestock feed or dropping off a piece of furniture here and there... Honestly, today is just a gaudy little parade—it doesn't really serve any purpose other than giving a few local idiots an excuse to get drunk and act reckless...
Joseph Ward2 The user said:So, did you actually end up sanctioning those people who were trying to get me banned from the forum for life...? 😳 Just tell them... 😬
ZgSash said:The reason I lifted your ban this time—well, it's really just to give you a fair shot at proving you can actually behave decently and act like a normal person... This isn't exactly something you can just mess around with...
Is that what moderation looks like...? This isn't moderation—especially not in a mystery thread. The guy showed up to join a casual discussion, only to suddenly start acting like some strict drill sergeant for no reason at all. Even if what Lastan and klonkin said later technically counts as "commenting on moderation" in a formal sense—it's not like this forum is Saša's personal PDF file. He clearly doesn't get it, and logically, or by any other standard, those comments aren't actually about the moderation itself... What Saša pulled here isn't even remotely close to actual moderation.
Moderators are supposed to guide the conversation and keep topics on track—but to do that effectively, they really ought to have a decent grasp of the subject matter they're overseeing... It’s hard to moderate something you don't actually understand. Beyond that, using a show of authority to shut people down or leaning into sarcasm and provocation just to mess with long-term users—well, there's simply no excuse for that kind of behavior in this thread...
because Sašenjka clearly lacks both the patience and the objectivity to handle it. I don't know why he's constantly on edge—or why he’s picking fights with certain people—but I'm relatively new here and I'm already completely fed up with him sticking his nose into everything... the double standards, the way he ruins every possible discussion just because someone touches his fragile ego. Not to mention that one time he posted here on Amtrak explicitly stating that "this is an American forum and obviously Americans should have more rights here," which isn't just a total nonsense statement, but it also flies in the face of US law and the rules of this forum. The administration's decision to allow someone to spout such nonsense is... well, let's just say it leaves a lot to be desired. If he can't handle the moderation style or the way people communicate on ŽK, then maybe he should find something less demanding to do, and just call it a day. The subforum isn't some chaotic mess, nor is there anything major going on there; the mods are perfectly fine—they even tolerate oversized images (😁)—and ŽK is really the last bastion of decent communication. There's honestly no need to stomp in there like a bull in a china shop.
Anyway, to make a long story short, Tyndall, please consider swapping Sašenjka with someone else for a different subforum because this just doesn't make sense... everyone on ŽK gets on his nerves anyway, and they aren't exactly docile little children like the ones over on ŽuD who just sit there and take it. 🤷
Thanks for looking into this.
Edit — since I didn't specify exactly what I mean by "grinding," take a look at the disproportionate number of klonkin's and lastanov's posts that were deleted versus those that weren't, the imbalance in points... and if you feel like it, maybe spend a little time looking at the regular banter in the thread where the "problems" actually started. If you do, it'll become pretty obvious to you what I'm actually talking about.
Give JP Morgan Chase a call and sign the authorization to clear out the remaining $500 from your account right away—just get that part settled immediately. As for the other 1,500, try to negotiate a payment plan with installments that actually fit your budget. They can't really turn you down since you're holding all the cards here... and if they get pushy, just politely ask to speak with someone more reasonable and professional. Look, this was their mistake, not yours. Pay back what you can now and show them you're acting in good faith regarding the rest. In the end, you'll just be paying off that Verizon bill in installments, which honestly isn't the worst outcome... You aren't a thief, but don't let them walk all over you either. I’d suggest sending them an email first to propose this arrangement and request a meeting. That way, you have a paper trail proving you did everything possible to fix a situation that wasn't even your fault in the first place.
If anyone happens to have a ticket they aren't planning on using, feel free to shoot me a DM... I'm open to discussing various prices—some reasonable ones, and maybe even a few that aren't...
Maria Nelson12 said:This looks like a textbook case of a moderator spinning things. I’ve looked into what actually happened here, and it seems pretty clear that the whole mess started because of a classic revisionist move—you know, where the aggressors get painted as the good guys while the victims (in this case, the mothers of those lost in the war) are treated like the bad ones. If a post like that is allowed to stay on the forum as the "official truth," then all the other posts showing the opposite side have to stay too. Either that, or you just wipe everything out. You can't just leave one specific perspective up and label it as "constructive" and "thoughtful." Doing that is just selective information filtering meant to manipulate the narrative. They force one viewpoint on everyone, call it deep and reasoned, and then scrub any opposing arguments by labeling them homophobic in the follow-up explanations. It’s honestly pathetic, especially since the post that actually kicked off this entire debate was clearly the homophobic one, and it's pretty obvious who the aggressors are, who the victims are, who the hypocrite is (Tadić), and who is being sincere (those mothers).
Look, if anyone is confused about why certain things were deleted—it’s because sentences like "it’s obviously blah blah..." always trigger these endless back-and-forth arguments. They stop being about the topic and turn into nothing more than blood feuds and twenty-year-old traumas that are impossible to moderate... and frankly, they aren't even necessary because they're totally off-topic.
If Jezebel stated she sees certain judgments as coming from those mothers, and then someone jumps in to say Mexicans are idiots or that Tadić is a hypocrite—how on earth is that considered on-topic?!?!?!
You can debate the reasons behind that judgment—which is clearly aimed at a specific target—but you shouldn't drag the entire damn war, the moderator's nationality, or everyone's religious background into the conversation.
Are you still not getting what this is about? And honestly, what you're calling an "example" isn't one—it's just a blatant ad hominem attack because someone holds a different opinion.
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Man... look. I’m not your mother. And neither is redmarlin3. No one should be trying to lecture you on the difference between interpreting a text versus interpreting a person... especially here on Reddit... in a thread about something else entirely.
coppermarlin13 said:Oh, really? So you're saying I can't take something that absolutely revolts me and use it as an example to condemn everything else being discussed in a thread specifically meant for things we actually find reprehensible?
That’s basically just a textbook case of someone trying to dodge accountability because they don't like the way the criticism is being delivered.
Hey, don't start yelling at me now—it’s not my fault you didn't read the intro... 😢
coppermarlin13 said:But wait, since when is talking about Politics off-limits in the Women's Corner? And are we really not allowed to judge things here? Especially in a thread specifically designed to call out nonsense?
See, that thread is about the act of judging—it isn't a space created FOR judgment...
I was rewatching the first movie again last night, and honestly, I couldn't stop laughing... It has some of the best shootout choreography ever made!
That movie is easily the most entertaining piece of junk out there—I mean, if Duffy was trying to be all deep and pretentious, he totally failed, but either way, I'm actually seriously considering checking out the sequel 😍 :love:
I’ve been reading through both sides of this, though I’ve read more of the "mistress" threads from start to finish than anything else. There were plenty of issues—some got sorted out along the way, while others just stayed messy—especially since that whole saga involving Ornelo and all those other interested parties was, well, epic in scale 😁 😁 😁 —I actually used to hop over from another forum just to follow that one. But lately, things have been mostly quiet. On the surface, the moderators' arguments seem to hold water, BUT! If we keep going like this, every woman dealing with a cheating husband, or any girl who ended up becoming a mistress just because of momentum, is going to head straight to the main sub-forums where these stories actually belong... Honestly, you guys have just created more work for yourselves without really achieving anything tangible, other than pushing a few "regulars" into corners where they're hard to find. Newcomers will just keep trying to start similar threads. And even if there isn't a deliberate attempt to open a chat topic about this, every single individual issue will probably turn into one eventually, simply because these are GENERAL, FREQUENT problems that clearly many people on this forum deal with.
It just doesn't feel fair.
I’m signing on to keep these topics in the main sub-forums.