Posts by mistywolf17

Look, just stop lying. You didn't get 11 warnings on the US site; you got 18. And you didn't receive 8 warnings in a row on that specific thread—it was 6. Also, it wasn't after a week; it was after two days. You only received one warning after six days, which is fine, I suppose, since warnings can be issued for posts up to 10 days old. There was a period where you weren't getting warnings, but that wasn't because you didn't deserve them; it's just that I don't hand them out as frequently as I probably could. My moderation style is such that I issue plenty of verbal warnings within threads first, and once you cross my threshold of tolerance and fail to respond to those warnings, then I start using the actual cards. And you didn't get a partial ban because of a fake ad; you're twisting the facts again. I simply said it wouldn't work in your favor.

And there you go, the admin confirmed your partial ban. Happy now?
You don't need to reply to this post. That partial ban isn't going anywhere, not now and not ever.

boldwalker12 said:So, we’ve got two female moderators running the show here in the States. It’s pretty interesting—when things were hitting the absolute peak of pure insanity, neither of you bothered to weigh in once. Honestly, it probably just matches whatever vibe or writing style you guys prefer. But if that’s actually the case, I’m genuinely curious: why was the tone toned down later, and why is everyone calling that move "nice of them"?

The new moderators were brought on, among other things, because I’ve been largely absent for almost two months. We talked Brandon Castillo4 into taking the role because he’s a solid choice and contributes a lot to the subforum through his topics and posts. And despite all the various conspiracy theories, I was actually the one who offered the moderator position to Drita—and I am certainly not his sister, his friend, or anything else, just to avoid more baseless speculation. I do believe he adds a lot to the subforum, and honestly, the community really came back to life once those two showed up, which many users have noted as well.
It would be nice of them if they softened the rules for the sake of the users who found it bothersome. Isn't that what "nice" means? I think copperfox22 mentioned that softening, right?

Nicholas King said:I'll know when you actually have the guts to say that without hiding behind an "if." Are you even capable of stating your opinion on that thread and actually standing by it—without retreating into "if," "maybe," "but then again," or any other vague nonsense?

I could say the exact same thing about you.

Fine—go ahead—but if you’re going to do that, then do exactly what I did: actually argue why my behavior constitutes "trolling." Your tactic is simply pivoting the discussion away from the actual facts and toward someone's supposed "real motives"🙄, which is really just a way of projecting "your opinion" onto what those motives might be.

Alright, your turn: what exactly does my trolling consist of...?

Of course I am. And I already said it: I don't like the topic. 🤷 But guess what? Not every topic is going to be liked by every moderator. That is a perfectly normal occurrence in moderation. However, that doesn't mean every topic should be closed or deleted just because a moderator doesn't personally enjoy it.

Fine—then do exactly what I'm doing: argue specifically how I am trolling. Your approach is to shift the debate away from the facts and toward someone's alleged "real motives," 🙄 essentially turning it into "your opinion" regarding what someone else's motives might be.

Now it's your turn: what exactly constitutes my trolling?

It stems from the fact that I clearly explained why I suspected there might be something else going on in boldwalker12's case, which you then failed to comment on. Instead, you applied it to yourself—even though you knew perfectly well I was saying she writes half-heartedly and stirs the pot—and you ended your comment with "Sad." You claim I'm not being specific, yet when others aren't being specific and I offer my opinion based on that, I'm the one who gets criticized.

Here goes another assumption. I'm assuming that this thread and that clone she mentioned are some kind of Vočkov topic. I have a new theory, a whole new "troll theory"—want to hear it? 🙄

I have to go now. 👋

boldwalker12 said:Of course it isn't.
The thing you’re clinging to so desperately wasn't even my main point; I just mentioned it in passing. Honestly, I didn't even need to bring it up because it's practically nothing compared to the absolute circus that went down on the US forums. That whole mess about the ads bled into all these other fake-deep topics, and it got so bad that a woman who had the nerve to say she wanted a guy who was hot and financially stable got torn to shreds—mercilessly, I might add—for like ten pages straight. And that "writing style" you're defending? It wasn't "style," it was straight-up insults, spitting on people, and total character assassination.

Things just kept escalating until the whole thing finally blew up. I swear, I've never seen that much pure aggression on any forum before.

And once the explosion hit its peak—once people (who weren't even part of the inner circle) started getting fed up with that "style"—everything was suddenly swept under the rug by the moderation of one of the actual bullies.

When you realize that some of the moderators were the ones fueling this toxic atmosphere while others conveniently vanished or stayed silent right when things got heated, the whole situation feels pretty nasty and gross.

So after all your trash-talking, bullying, and insulting—which you keep calling "style"—you really think my argument is just some pathetic troll thread? Give me a break. 😁

Is this directed at me? 🙂

Nicholas King said:: UN Peacekeeping Forces :

What is, specifically, your actual take on a thread where advertisers were being insulted? You aren't going to just leave it hanging like that without finishing your thought, are you?

Look, it’s pretty obvious to me that this wording translates to "I don't agree with this thread either, but whatever..." Just say what you actually mean for once.

Oh, so I'm the one who isn't being specific? Am I allowed to say "it's sad" now?
And honestly, what if I just personally don't like that thread? What about it?

Nicholas King said:Do you seriously not see that this is textbook trolling? In this specific instance, I actually find your trolling offensive—mostly because you're taking something I genuinely care about (you know, basic consistency... though clearly that's asking too much : ) and reducing it to some low-level, fabricated personal grudge that neither the accusers nor the accused could ever actually prove.

I mean, honestly, who actually cares what you or I think regarding someone's underlying motives for posting this or that?

Any single post that substitutes a real answer or comment with some "you're only writing this because of X or Y" is nothing more than trolling. Anyway, enough about me—let's finally get back to discussing that car.

Well, I could say the exact same thing about you.

copperfox22 said:Ever since the moderators mistypanther and Brandon Castillo4 took over the US subforum, the whole vibe has shifted. On one hand, you’ve got a specific group of users practically throwing a parade for the moderators' unique "style." On the other hand, a lot of people were pretty blindsided by how they actually carry themselves—which mostly involves insults, belittling others, and throwing around slurs. Naturally, any posts calling out this kind of behavior were scrubbed immediately, so that part shouldn't come as a surprise.

I’ve been around the US forum long enough to notice that you, mistywolf17, have really started acting like you own the place ever since you got some guys backing you up. Don't think for a second that people are blind or stupid; even if they don't feel comfortable posting publicly or just don't want the drama, the frustration is definitely being voiced in private messages.

The US forum used to be a space dedicated to i venting about being a lonely heart, but it has morphed into a playground where certain users basically just tear apart anyone who doesn't fit their mold.

That said, after a few pointed comments were made, there has been a noticeable shift. The language and the general attitude have toned down slightly, becoming somewhat more civil. It's telling, though.

Personally, all of this just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I haven't felt personally insulted or targeted, but still—just so we're clear—shit is shit, no matter how much people try to sweep it under the rug.

A little less ego and a little more self-awareness wouldn't hurt anyone.

I’ve been living in the States for quite a while now, and I have to admit, I tend to be pretty unpleasant and arrogant. I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who could back that up. I don't really feel like any guys are looking out for me, nor do I feel like they actually need to step up and have my back. Even back in the day, there were always guys around here in America.

Also, after a few remarks were made, it’s become pretty noticeable that both the vocabulary and the general behavior have softened quite a bit, reaching a more appropriate level. It’s certainly indicative.

Well, there you have it. Really classy move on their part.

Nicholas King said:The second I started typing my post, you immediately jumped to a diagnosis—something like, "Aha, I see, you just don't like a certain user. Next!" You apply that exact same diagnosis to others, even when the situation is completely different, without even blinking.

So, I supposedly mentioned something halfway? Or I'm "poking" someone?

BTW, reacting with an "aha, I know exactly why you're writing this" is trolling by definition—because instead of discussing the actual content, you're shifting the debate toward someone's actual motives. It's honestly sad.

Regarding the "picking on people" part, I was talking about boldwalker12 since you were quoting her post anyway. I assumed you'd catch that. And I know you did. But if you did, how could you then write "sad"? Honestly.

As for you, that's just my opinion, especially since we had a similar debate about this very thing recently. We didn't understand each other then, either.

@boldwalker12, what, is the fact that I edit my posts your main argument now? Sorry, my thoughts are a bit slow, so I go back and add to them later. Whatever. 😢
You still haven't clarified anything. You don't have to, but there it is—I've stated my opinion on that approach.

Nicholas King said:Why is it that you always manage to bring everything back down to a personal level—as if, in your mind, some kind of personal vendetta is the only possible reason behind anyone’s observations or critiques?

It’s practically impossible—or at least, that's how I see it—that someone could claim to dislike something without there being some underlying personal agenda or a hidden inclination toward playing those little behind-the-scenes games. I mean, really, think about it. It’s almost a mathematical certainty that if someone is pushing a certain narrative or expressing distaste, there’s a motive lurking somewhere in the shadows, right? Maybe it's ego, maybe it's just plain old manipulation... I guess you could say nothing happens in a vacuum.

By the way—are you really that out of the loop when it comes to all the forum gossip? I mean, how do you even know that forum drama exists in the first place?

It's because things are mentioned halfway and never fully explained. What else could the reason be? I'm quite familiar with this kind of poking.
I asked about that supposed troll thread on the US forum—the one a moderator apparently started using a clone—and I didn't get an answer. How would she even know about it if I, as a moderator, don't know? And why would she go out of her way to provoke people by hinting at who did what?

BTW, aren't you in the loop regarding forum gossip? How do you even know forum gossip exists?

Oh, come on, please. 😁

Nicholas King said:Once again, we're pivoting to personal attacks. 🤦

It isn't about whether or not anyone "likes" a particular individual's prose—that’s irrelevant here. The real issue is that Jeffrey Cooper7 was essentially slapped down for mocking people in the classified ads section, all while a perfectly legitimate discussion was happening where several people—and by the way, when I mentioned "just look at what was said to the advertisers in the opening post," I wasn't referring to the author of that post (actually, I just realized I misremembered who actually kicked off this thread)—were being brutally ridiculed and insulted by those participating in the vote.

What matters is that this entire topic had the general blessing of the moderators—which, let's be clear, is entirely your prerogative—but if that's the case, one has a right to expect some level of consistency.

So, given the sheer number of valid reasons available, you reached for the wrong one. And you missed. 😁

Haven't I already explained the difference? Well, yes, I have.
Is my inconsistency simply that the classifieds topic was allowed to survive regardless of my opinion on it, while on the other hand, I just don't like clones and trolls posting fake ads and misleading people? Okay.

boldwalker12 said:I’m not either. What I was getting at is pretty obvious the second you land on this subforum. I shouldn't even have to scream "The Emperor has no clothes" at you, especially since you're a moderator.

I don't have any issues here besides what I just said. For instance, I didn't see Jeffrey Cooper7 tearing anyone apart or calling them some deranged names. 🤷
Just so we're clear, I'm not playing defense for anyone; I just can't stand double standards.

And honestly, that’s everything I’ve got to say about it.

The fact that you and a few others don't care for mistypanther's writing style has nothing to do with why Jeffrey Cooper7 received a partial ban. It doesn't justify it, sorry, but it really doesn't. mistypanther acts as a moderator approved by the forum owner, whereas Jeffrey Cooper7 earned his partial ban based on the judgment of the moderator, lonely heart. I guess you probably don't read every single post on this subforum and don't know the users here as well as the moderators do, so it makes sense that you missed certain things.

That’s all I have to say about that. 😕

Look, I really don't follow all the forum gossip or who is feuding with whom, so I honestly can't speak to anyone's underlying motives or any private drama between moderators that might be causing these half-truths. It seems like people are just trying to drag the entire moderation team of this subforum into the mud. If you have a specific issue with how the Lonely Heart section is being run, then just lay it all out there and be done with it. But don't do this.

boldwalker12 said:So, let me get this straight—insulting people, being openly aggressive, and getting targeted by more than just one random user, all gets rewarded by the mods only in "exceptional circumstances"?

It's a joke.

If this were any other subforum, I wouldn't even bother mentioning it. But on a board that was basically a private circus until yesterday, this is honestly pathetic. By the way, can we just clone the moderators so they can open threads based solely on what *they* find funny? 🙂

That's my two cents.

Are you really asking me that? Since I have absolutely no idea whose "private circus" you're referring to—which moderator, which clone, or which thread—I don't really know how to respond. Put the links out in the open. 😉

Jeffrey Cooper7 said:So what now? Are you just gonna dodge my point from earlier about that thread where everyone was making fun of those classified ads people post? I mean, that was totally fair game, right? Honestly, terrifying...

Well, then half the people on there deserve a partial ban if you ask me, because let's be real, the place is crawling with clones. I was actually the first one to get banned just because I was honest about it. Such a stupid reason to kick someone off the subforum. ☕

Who is "WE"? Find me one single post where I ever made fun of anyone, or just stop talking nonsense. You are such an obvious troll that anyone reading this thread can clearly see why you received a partial ban.

Then half the people there should just get a partial ban too, if you ask me, because there are definitely clones everywhere. It’s just that I was the first one banned because I actually admitted to it. It seems like a pretty stupid reason to kick someone off that subforum. ☕

And you're doing it again. Trolling, twisting things, making stuff up. This way you communicate is enough reason to never let you near the Lonely Heart subforum again.
Go ahead then. 👋

Oh, and as far as I'm concerned, feel free to lock this. I think I've explained myself more than enough.

Nicholas King said:Trash is exactly what this forum was designed for—so if you want to spend your time debating whether we should scrap PDFs once and for all, go right ahead. No harm done.

I mean, let's be real—that PDF is intended for something else entirely. It’s just not what it looks like.

I’ve finally worked up the nerve to say it: everything ever written about classified ads over on Trash—both in terms of sheer volume and, more importantly, the level of mockery involved—is nothing more than child's play compared to that single opening post on the US forum. That one post basically branded the entire thread, and everyone who dared to contribute to it, as absolute jokes.

Are you feeling personally victimized by this thread or by a specific user? Look, I’m sorry, but I just can't wrap my head around someone who acts one way on one subforum while bickering with people there, only to turn around and complain about the exact same thing in a different thread. I realize you don't really get where I'm coming from either, so maybe we should just call it quits here.

Jeffrey Cooper7 said:Look, that clone account was set up way before I ever got banned, okay? So please, don't try to pull that kind of stuff on me—you've already done plenty of damage with this partial ban.
Another thing—think back to who was actually making jokes about those classified ads. You remember that whole "Looking/Offering—are you guys screwing with me?" thread where everyone, including the male mods, was just ripping on people's posts? You clearly don't want to go there, do you? So now you’re sitting here telling me *I'm* the one who was mocking them? Please, give me a break. Where exactly did I do that? Where was I being so disrespectful that people started mass-reporting my posts? You're lying; you're straight-up lying when you claim I was constantly belittling every single person who popped up on that board. You're just lying, plain and simple. ☕

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Cut it out with the lies already, kid.

What kind of lies are we even talking about here? Seriously, what is your problem? Are you just trolling me now, or are you actually trying to start something? 🤷 Do you have any idea how many people are running clone accounts just to pump those ads? Seriously, you clearly haven't noticed. Just take a quick scroll through that thread and you’ll see a literal army of clones everywhere. I used to run one myself back when I wasn't on the outs, but I’m definitely not touching that again—I'm not looking to take any risks, especially knowing how short your fuse is... ☕

EDIT:

Look, there’s a massive difference between just leaving a comment on a listing and actually posting a fake profile to bait people. When you're out there running some clone account just to get PMs from folks who are probably looking for companionship—or maybe even more—you’re straight-up messing with them. It's just low.

So, I got a partial ban for that? Seriously? I didn't even say anything to anyone on that alt account, so how does that even count as trolling? Honestly, you’re really overstepping with these punishments. It's just way too much...

Well, bravo. Just keep it coming. 👋

I’m throwing a facepalm right at those people who think one thing is right while everything else is wrong. There.
Honestly, if anyone feels offended by this, I suspect they might feel a bit better if they were being mocked over on Trash rather than some other subforum. 🙄

We could probably also get into a whole debate about why it would be considered right—or perhaps more correct—to label those same advertisers as whatever they are on the Trash forum, which has happened quite a few times.

Nicholas King said:Do we really need to spin up a whole separate topic just for that? 😕

To put it in sports terms—it's a total "overplay." I mean, look, if a player picks up ten yellow cards in a single month and still acts surprised or claims they don't see what's happening, then maybe—just maybe—they aren't cut out for the big leagues. It’s not exactly a deep philosophical mystery at that point.

Besides, the mocking of the ads has already been happening—it was just in a different thread, which doesn't make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things.

It’s not just that there’s a specific thread for it, but there’s an entire sub-forum dedicated to it. (Hint: Trash). Does that really not bother you? 🙂

There is a massive difference between just leaving comments on ads and actually posting a fake listing using a clone account. When you set up a fake profile to bait people into sending you private messages—especially when they might be looking for companionship or something more serious—you aren't just trolling. You are directly messing with real people. It’s just wrong.

Jeffrey Cooper7 said:I was actually planning on running an ad there too, but thanks to you, I guess that's off the table now. So, yeah, thanks for that, truly. 🙂

I guess you've already bragged about how you set that up. I guess it looks like there’s a fake ad circulating involving some kind of clone. It's probably just a scam, but you have to be careful.Honestly, you really should have been sent to the ban corner for this, but here you are. You weren't, either. I guess it’s happened plenty of times before, too. Messing with people on the classified ads and turning everything into a joke just doesn't look good on you, you know.

Jeffrey Cooper7 said:Look, I have to come clean. I created a fake profile and posted an ad on there—which was obviously a sham. I want to apologize to any women who were looking for actual conversation; my only intention was to see who would reach out and what kind of questions they’d ask, so I didn't bother responding to any messages.
So, looking back at this past week, I’ve been monitoring that ad, and I ended up getting exactly seven messages. To be honest, most of them seem like total throwaways—just accounts with maybe one or two posts, and one was actually completely empty. I guess it's just how it goes. 🤣 I’ll say it again: what is the point of hiding behind a clone account? I honestly don't think people come to this forum because someone suggested there was a specific thread where they could post ads. It seems more like they use an alter ego to mask whatever flaws they might have on their actual profiles. One of those seven women actually reached out to me, and her writing style was incredibly similar to stuff I've seen around this sub. I won't say who she is, though—I don't want to make things awkward for her.
So, that was my ad. I’d say it was pretty open-ended, which meant I actually received some straightforward offers via email. I even got people asking, "Does anyone even qualify for these positions?" And honestly, the answer was no—though now, I think I finally understand why. 🙂

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Cut it out with the lies, kid.

Larry Wilson25 said:You might have been a little harsh there. Usually, that kind of treatment is reserved for the total lunatics who can't stop being insulting. Even after the partial stuff, the guy didn't actually insult anyone.

Just my two cents.
The US isn't exactly the place to go looking for a girlfriend—it's more like a digital support group for the lonely heart. You might want to rethink your stance on your own lonely heart situation.
Especially since the poster was actually using a thread meant for talking to the moderators. I mean, sure, he set a passive trap for you, but mistywolf17, try to step outside that loop for a second. Like, maybe don't comment on my posts? Just... try to restrain yourself once in a while.

I really won't. 😢

Jeffrey Cooper7 said:Well, thanks for pointing out the obvious, Captain Obvious.

So, am I actually getting another shot at this, or am I stuck just sitting around waiting for some new moderators to show up on the US forum? 🙂

I suppose you'll find a girlfriend within the next few years anyway, so you won't even need this forum. Good luck. 🙂

I honestly don't understand why various trolls assume they can just mess with people who spend their free time moderating this forum to make things better for everyone. I also don't get why you trolls think you need special requests or warnings before receiving a partial ban, especially when you know exactly what you're doing and respond to every warning with even more trolling.
And now you're bragging about how much more you've trolled elsewhere. Truly wonderful. This is what being accountable for your actions—and your posts—actually looks like. Just accept it. A partial ban happens, for instance, if you overdo the trolling or insults, go off-topic too much, ignore multiple warnings, get carded, get banned, or if users keep complaining about your posts while you just keep doing the same thing. Conditions met. No more warnings. There is no US for you. It's over. Goodbye.

If it makes it easier for you to understand, here is the answer in your own terms -> yes, a partial ban happens whenever a moderator decides it's time, and well, I finally decided it was time. Bye bye. ☕

Don't make this difficult. The US moderators have reached a consensus regarding your partial ban, and believe me, we don't hand those out lightly or without good reason. I have personally warned you numerous times within various threads and via private message, yet your only response was to troll. Always. I have never received a single constructive or sane reply from you. You have consistently attacked and mocked specific forum members, refusing to stop even after being cautioned, and then you had the nerve to start leaving notes on my posts. Is that not blatant disrespect? Well, I am sorry, but it's too late now; there is no debating this decision. The authority lies with the moderators, not with whatever buddies you might have on the sub-forums.

I sent you an explanation via PM.

William Mitchell50 said:It isn't just gossip that someone was posting on other forums. That’s honestly the worst part about those boards where I don't even have an account.
🤦

Maybe we could just lock this thread or delete the last post that carries over content from other people's discussions on different sites.

It's quite sad. 😢

What is even happening here? You brought up my arrogance, my biases, my age, my rudeness, and my real life, but the moment I present some actual facts—which coincidentally happened right when you opened two separate threads on the US site that just so happen to attract the exact same group of users—suddenly you want the post deleted and the topic closed. Oh, William Mitchell50, William Mitchell50...