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Moderators are being so petty, uncreative, and incompetent in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Linda Rodriguez38 said:Well, we already called it out right here in public
hopefully someone is on duty right now
you know, like a 911 operator or some emergency dispatch... anyone please respond!
just act, don't keep giving us the same old excuses over and over again
Come on, do something so we can finally start respecting you guys!

Yeah, but your perspective is a bit skewed. The moderators didn't decide on the punishment. You can't blame the moderators if you think the penalties are too light. Blame the super-mods or the admins.
Moderators are being so petty, uncreative, and incompetent in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Linda Rodriguez38 said:Personally, I love that you're owning up to your mistake
look, you messed up once
you leaked the Prime Minister's info publicly
and that whole chat on the KzB thing--how did you call it?
I get it, it was just a joke, totally obvious to me
but you CAN'T mess around like that—just like we can't—because it ends up extending our bans too!
YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE EVEN WORSE
Come on, be adults and give yourselves a 3-day ban
if you do that, we'll all respect you

Moderators can't police one another, which means they can't discipline themselves. Moderators are subject to super-moderators and admins. Super-moderators answer only to the admins. Admins? Nobody touches them. They have to be demoted first before any actual disciplinary action can even be taken.

I’m currently on light duty, so there's a chance this isn't 100% accurate, though I'm fairly certain it is. If you're looking to push for harsher penalties against certain mods, you'll need to take that up with a supermod or an admin.
Moderators are being so petty, uncreative, and incompetent in Feedback & Suggestions ·
reddriver35 said:Look, 🤦 it’s really not that simple.

If anyone actually gives a damn about Slafk on this forum, then that person is me. Except, I'm just a little kitten.

Slafk got a three-day ban, went on a rant, and ended up getting his ban extended to a month. At least, that's how I saw it. There’s a lot to catch up on. He’s mostly right, but he has one major flaw: he doesn't know when to quit. Instead of pointing out injustice gracefully, he just cranks up the pressure.

Why does he act like that? Maybe because nobody listens to him? Ever wonder about that?

I'll be the first to admit it. Every time I get a warning—even if it's totally unfair—it doesn't matter. I can do whatever I want because I'm a moderator. And who am I going to complain to? The city water board? 😢

So, I resorted to spamming tactics. I even had a bet going on how long I could last before getting banned. I even have a tracker for my spamming on the trash threads. It was my defense mechanism.

Secondly, regarding Persephone. Where is she? Nowhere to be found? She wasn't fair to me this past summer. She knows it, too. I didn't complain. I thought about messaging Belwether, the former admin, but I backed off. I was afraid things would escalate and cause more damage. But I did call Persephone out on LJES. I admit it. But I don't do that anymore. I won't ever do it again. I think enough has been said. My point in writing this is that she just doesn't cooperate. You never see her in the women's corner. She'll flag my spam, but sometimes she won't. You never know when or how much off-topic behavior is allowed. 😕

My off-topic posts were never hate speech. Sure, there was some trolling involved. And that got deleted. I didn't get flagged for it then. When I spam, I'm being funny and entertaining. Especially when 4fun joins in—it's a winning combo. An NBC sitcom couldn't touch us. 😁

But I agree, you shouldn't overdo it. And I'll admit, for the millionth time, that I did overdo it.

Why am I mad at Persephone? Because of three warnings she gave me that she didn't have to. 😢 It was on my own thread and wasn't even off-topic. It wasn't even close to the stuff I was quoting on this thread, where the loose cannons of the forum were chasing Nicholas.😢 That's just not fair, folks. 👎

She flagged me because:

1. I wrote that I'm a Libra.
2. I asked a user how she did her makeup.
3. I wrote that I don't like fighting.

That's three warnings, 10 points each. Since I already had 590 points, adding those 30 brought me to 620, which triggered a seven-day cooling-off period in the forum's VIP lounge with a message saying: "Stop chatting"!!

And yeah, no one ever comes to the banned users' corner for me. 😢 Except feraltrucker5 and scripte elegans fe. 😍

As for Steven Ruiz, Steven Ruiz had a blast down there. Which isn't fair. It seems like the former mod gets special treatment from us little guys.

Anyway, I saw that the top-tier mods stepped in. I think that's it. In the end, it turns out we're all equal.

But what I really want is for you to respond to inquiries in the banned corner for other users, too. Because from what I can see, you people in the women's corner don't care at all. And that's the problem.

This whole discussion is pointless if the users and moderators don't talk about the things that bother both sides.

What bothers me is the arrogance, the laziness, and the recklessness of certain moderators.

I’m just trying to point out these irregularities in a decent way. I’d love to see other members join in and contribute to this thread. Let's keep it civilized.

I know there are issues over in Recreation and Religion. But wouldn't it be better if someone actually spoke up with specifics? It feels like the problem is spreading across the entire forum.

If you ask me, the real issue here is that the general culture among users is just lacking. 👎

That’s not quite right. The three-day ban was just points accumulating—he picked up some warnings. The 30-day ban came directly from the Main Admin because he posted PM stuff. They aren't even related.
Thread Migration - moving posts without owner consent? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Steven Clark2 said:Give it a shot and see if you can actually pull it off. 🙂

Did it work?

mellowlynx68 said:No, absolutely not.
There are only the last 300 there.

Don't get mad, but I’m asking you seriously: how can you have a black username and still be this clueless about limited posts? You clearly didn't grasp that once a thread is moved, it stops being its own thing and won't just show up in his open threads.

I wasn't aware of that. No worries, I'm not upset. Even moderators make mistakes. Besides, I'm still pretty new to this role myself. My apologies for spreading misinformation. 😉

I haven't used the search function much in the past, so I wasn't aware. Now I know.

Just wanted to get my thoughts out there. When you head over to the advanced search, there's an option to search by title. Since you can add a title to any post, I figured that would actually work.
Thread Moving - without notifying the OP? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
mistywolf17 said:He merged his thread with another one. Once that happens, it isn't technically his thread anymore, so he can't find it under his own posts. That's my take on what he meant. 😉

What if someone actually subscribed to the thread? Does the subscription vanish, or does it carry over to the new one?

By the way, you can always just use the "Find all posts by..." feature. 😉
Thread Moving - without notifying the OP? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Honestly, it’s like you just refuse to listen to what people are telling you. Finding your own posts and threads is incredibly easy. Just look at this image:
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You can even subscribe to specific threads:
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Check out these screenshots (click them).

Besides, it is standard practice for moderators to move, merge, or delete threads whenever necessary.
Thread Moving - without notifying the OP? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Just head over to your profile—you can click your name right next to your post above the avatar—and you'll find everything you need under Statistics. You can search through all your posts and any threads you've started there. 😉
Is it against the rules to trash talk ISPs? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
blueridge32 said:You could just delete the post and send a private warning if you can't handle rumors, but I guess we don't have "sensible" moderation here, just a bunch of bot-like bans.

True, that was an option... But nope, the mod chose to hand out a ban instead. A rule was broken, so the ban isn't unjustified.

But you're missing the entire point of this thread. Taylor Swift isn't complaining about the ban. She's complaining about the rule.
Is it against the rules to trash talk ISPs? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Eric Hernandez said:I'm trying to find some kind of middle ground.
The rules make sense to me; I've spent enough time writing and reading online to know that every third post can turn into pure, vulgar vitriol. Even if they have a point, that kind of behavior ruins the quality of the discussion intended for this space.
That said, granitefox16 is right—people should be allowed to lash out at whoever they want whenever they want, provided there's actually an argument behind it. Stopping that would basically be stifling free speech and killing the debate itself, which serves as valuable info for other potential users of this ISP. If people are allowed to trash talk Bernie Sanders, Mike Krzyzewski, a lipstick brand, Lady Gaga, or whatever else, I don't see why there should be any exceptions here.
The solution isn't just to "poof" the problem away by adding a rule and handing out bans. Especially not here, since the forum is supposed to be a place for opinions, and rules like that are way too subjective. We need more active moderation if we actually want to hit that middle ground.

Here is another example of negative criticism toward the provider:

That post broke the rules in just two words. It’s easy to moderate something like that. I just censored those two words with asterisks, left a comment, and issued a yellow card as a warning. Simple stuff.

But on the flip side, granitefox16's post is impossible to moderate. In that case, the only thing a mod can really do is slap them with a red card.

Regardless, it's quite possible the rules will be slightly reworded. Vitriol will likely still be banned, but it'll be phrased differently. Posts like granitefox16's simply cannot be tolerated. (I'm only mentioning granitefox16's post as an example, not because of an appeal or because I have a personal vendetta.)
Is it against the rules to trash talk ISPs? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
hollowtrucker77 said:Like I said, my guess is they wrote the rule that way just because of our national pastime: trashing the service providers.

As far as I know, that is exactly why that rule exists...
How long is the wait? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
They’re gone, expired... All you have left is the record of being penalized, but your score is sitting at zero.
Is it against the rules to trash talk ISPs? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
granitefox16 said:Wait a second, why are internet providers protected from the massive wave of hate, while guys like Mike Krzyzewski or Bernie Sanders aren't?

Not that I can actually stand looking at either of them.😁

I have no idea why they aren't... 🤷
You'd have to ask the moderators over on the sports board. I honestly don't know.
Is it against the rules to trash talk ISPs? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
granitefox16 said:Great. Now go ahead and start a thread about Jerry Jones on the PDF forum. Go ahead and spread those lies since that's actually illegal under USA law.

Did you also forget about that directive the admin gave to the moderators?
Is it against the rules to trash talk ISPs? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
granitefox16 said:Don't sweat the insults. I wasn't attacking what I said over the phone. It's just a shame I can't get my hands on those lowlifes in person.

For those interested, here is the legal excerpt:
Insult
Section 199.
(1) Anyone who insults another person
shall be punished by a fine of up to one hundred days' worth of income.
(2) Anyone who insults another person through the press, radio, television, in front of a group of people, at a public gathering, or by any other means that makes the insult accessible to a larger number of people,
shall be punished by a fine of up to sixty days' worth of income.
(3) If the insulted party retaliates with an insult, the court may waive the penalties for both parties.
Is it against the rules to trash talk ISPs? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Fine, I didn't mean it needs to be locked down. I only said that because it felt like we were getting off track.

Here is one of the moderator guidelines:
The goal is for this forum to remain a pleasant space for sharing opinions, experiences, information, and entertainment. We want people here to be able to have civilized discussions.

It’s obvious this rule stems directly from that directive. Furthermore, insults can actually be illegal under US law. A warning is really the bare minimum penalty you could hand out.

Thirdly—and yes, I am repeating myself—there is an existing thread where rules can be discussed, provided the debate remains civilized and reasoned. So far, that hasn't been the case here.
Is it against the rules to trash talk ISPs? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
granitefox16 said:The question is, why is there a rule against insulting the ISP?
Why is that forbidden, yet it's perfectly fine to insult Lino Červar, cameras, or the Department of Sanitation...

I am telling you for the tenth time already: the admins have been notified. If they want to respond, they will. How many times do we have to repeat ourselves? If they decide to say something, they'll unlock the thread and post their reply. Everyone else here—aside from the admins—has already said everything they have to say, so this thread can be locked.
Is it against the rules to trash talk ISPs? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
granitefox16 said:Who exactly asked you to write anything at all?

Wait... Are you actually serious? You start your very first post being incredibly arrogant by flouting the subforum rules, and now I'm not allowed to address you as a moderator? And then people claim the moderators are the ones being arrogant? Every single one of your posts here has been condescending.

I'm asking the mods to lock this thread. There is nothing left to say. This is a waste of time.
Is it against the rules to trash talk ISPs? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Eric Hernandez said:Then why does this thing even exist? I think it’s your job to pass this along to the admins. Honestly, who even knows which admin is active anymore? They're probably just shooting in the dark, hoping they hit something.

Unknown notified the admins. They sent over the link to this thread, the disputed post, and the rules. So, if they want to act, they will.

I'm a new moderator—been on the job less than a week. I don't quite know yet how the admins operate or what they actually monitor...
Is it against the rules to trash talk ISPs? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Eric Hernandez said:And who is this even directed at? Sai baba?

It's addressed to everyone. Including the admins, for that matter. But the thing is, admins might not even see his thread. If he sends a PM to an admin, he's talking directly and exclusively to them.
Is it against the rules to trash talk ISPs? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
granitefox16 (No content provided to rewrite.)
What kind of rule is that even supposed to be?
Is it now illegal to trash our internet service provider? Who exactly came up with this brilliant idea?

granitefox16 said:I am trying to point out that this rule is idiotic and needs to be changed.

That rule predates every single moderator on the internet. I've said it a thousand times already. If you have an issue with it, take it up with the admins. Like I said, once more. Almost all the rules around here are just suggestions from the admins anyway.

And there is my question. Why am I forced to repeat everything I write an infinite number of times?