Man, Mudhoney gets linked to the grunge scene almost as much as Azra does. Thank God I still listen to them and really respect what they do (truth be told, it's probably been about 10 years since I actually sat down with their discography), but at the end of the day, they're just an incredibly solid garage rock band, nothing more...
Gregory Garcia said:OMD are basically the Stone Temple Pilots of the synth-pop world, so feel free to tell me if I'm totally off base. 🙂
Kid, it's time to grow up. Grunge—whatever you want to call it—is mostly just garbage at its core (except for Screaming Trees, which some people unfairly lump into that whole "grunge" invention), whereas synth-pop actually has some seriously incredible albums out there. And honestly, I don't need to argue with you; your own ears will tell you the truth soon enough. I'd really love to hear what exactly isn't working for you. Is it Gregory Garcia?...
wiredfalcon2 said:Just for you; "wiredfalcon2's definition of an indie snob"
- A carbon-based lifeform made up of about 70% water, usually sporting non-committal hairstyles (rarely bald), who genuinely believes the only good music is what was underground decades ago or anything that hasn't sold more than 62 albums—or, in the absolute worst-case scenario, Nirvana. 😁 They love acting all high-brow and pretending they’re experts on every obscure, low-selling niche scene, dropping massive band names just to mask their own frustrations at not fitting into some imaginary mainstream. Then, this specimen will desperately run away from that very mainstream without ever actually looking at the situation objectively, while the non-indie, non-snob crowd is busy stretching out and dancing their hearts out to this ffffire. And making out. * Indie snobs and owners of failed bands often only half-know how to play their instruments.
🙂 😁
So, what do you call someone who has listened to a massive amount of music over the years, to the point where today's various revivals just sound silly and mostly boring? Exceptions aside, of course. I haven't even properly listened to Franz Ferdinand—just a few tracks and that's it—but even then, I felt like I'd always rather listen to something else. On the other hand, Bloc Party is actually pretty fun. And I don't really need music to make out; it mostly just distracts me. I hardly ever dance either—mostly because I don't go out much (except maybe to a local pub in downtown Chicago)—and when I did know how to "dance" back when I was younger, it was usually awkwardly to "Waiting Room" and stuff like that. Man, I need a drink... I was actually dancing in my room the other day to Go! Team...
damien said:I honestly feel like the cassette version fits The Cure's vibe way better than the CD. It’s got that slightly muffled, distant quality—lacking those sharp highs—but man, it just feels right. Out of all my tapes, I actually still hold onto a few from my college days... specifically *The Cure in Orange*. 😁 That lo-fi sound really hits different.
Hey, don't go calling me a liar! I was the one who recorded that for you in a super low-quality MP3 format. Maybe you ended up dubbing it over to a tape back then? Who knows!
Brandon Castillo4 said:Oh man, I finally spotted it! 😁
So, when are we hitting up that kebab joint? 😁 😳 It totally caught me off guard again... 😂
Hey! Listen, I’m only in Cleveland for tomorrow. I’m heading out on Thursday and won't be back until the 6th. So tomorrow works, but if that doesn't happen, let's aim for that following week after Thanksgiving.
hollowseal33 said:You guys pretty much covered everything. Honestly, trying to make a list longer than ten albums for a single year feels a bit vague and overreaching to me. You should be making lists of truly GREAT albums, not just every single thing that caught your ear this year... but hey, whatever works. That said, if I had to highlight one album that absolutely floored me this year, it would have to be Liars - They Were Wrong So We Drowned. Just flawless.
1. Nick Cave - Abbattoir Blues / The Lyra of Orpheus 2. Arcade Fire - Funeral 3. Interpol - Antics 4. Comets on Fire - Blue Cathedral 5. Morrissey - You Are the Quarry 6. Fiery Furnaces - Blueberry Boat 7. Wilco - Ghost is Born 8. Giant Sand - Is All Over the Map 9. Liars - They Were Wrong, So We Drowned 10. The Go! Team - Thunder, Lightning, Strike 11. Devendra Banhart - Rejoicing the Hands 12. Modest Mouse - Good News for People Who Love Bad News 13. Mark Lanegan - Bubblegum 14. Iron & Wine - Our Endless Numbered Days 15. Xiu Xiu - Fabulous Muscles 16. Elliott Smith - From a Basement on the Hill 17. Delgados - Universal Audio 18. Tom Waits - Real Gonifs 19. Pinback - Summer in Abandon 20. Walkmen - Bows & Arrows
I would never dream of questioning whether Nirvana was influential. If they paved the way for indie music to hit the mainstream—absolutely, and I'll give them full credit for that. That alone makes them the most significant band of the 90s in my eyes. On the other hand, you have bands like Slint and Fugazi, who were definitely influential by shaping the sound of countless other groups. It just means we need to be specific about what we mean when we say "influential." Are we talking about a formula that other bands adopted and eventually tweaked for their own era, or are we talking about being a true trailblazer for the masses? By the way, besides Q and Not, I can't actually think of any specific bands that Fugazi influenced, even though they are absolute legends... 😲
wiredfalcon2 said:p.s. I wasn't saying Prodigy was the most influential band of the nineties overall. I meant they were the biggest influence on the electro scene—more so than Nirvana was on rock...
So, who exactly did Prodigy influence on the "electro" scene?
Does anyone know if he was selling bootlegs? Man, I really should have! After the show, all the ladies were insisting on heading home, so I didn't stick around to see if he had anything for sale...
coastalpanther43 said:There’s just one thing I don’t get: when you listen to the bands you follow (especially since you’ve got Mark E. Smith as your avatar), do you think the people in the lyrics are actually talking nonsense, or do you just not pay attention to the words? It feels like, according to you, indie music is just crawling with "bigoted left-wing liberals."
Look, I can certainly sympathize with socialism—liberalism especially—but in practice, leftism has turned out to be pretty terrible. As someone with my own convictions, I believe I have every right to feel that certain "traditional" values are worth holding onto. I won't even get into my views on capitalism versus socialism; I think anyone with half a brain—and by that, I mean anyone who is educated and has actual ambitions in a professional, institutional sense—can see how flawed socialism is, not to mention its more extreme versions...
That said, I truly don't care about someone's political or ideological leanings. To me, that's such a trivial and silly category during socialization that it never poses an obstacle to meeting new people or building friendships.