A recording is valid, even if it wasn't agreed upon with the court or done without the subject's knowledge, provided the content serves the public interest...
In our system, I guess a judge would just rule that this was a private vendetta against Mamić's instead of a matter of public good. They'd probably end up screwing over anyone who actually filmed it and tried to go public...
Sean Rivera12 said:I don't know, just find out what happened.
I guess bringing in two naive outsiders isn't really the issue here, but I'm pretty sure this was intentional and had some sort of goal behind it. It doesn't feel accidental.
Btw, where was the Los Angeles Dodgers staying these past few days?
If I remember right, the Panorama area, near the arena...
Petar Skansi is leading the National Stadium Violence Task Force. Following the game, he confirmed there might actually be a chance they change the rules regarding banning away fans in MLS.
"The fans showed more maturity today than the club executives did. It’s the kind of maturity we should respect. If the fans are okay with sitting in the same stands, I don't see why we shouldn't allow it. We have to listen to their voice, especially if we're looking at what happened during this derby,"
"They really did show maturity, even in such a tense situation. I think after this, it will be possible to sit down and talk with all the supporter groups. Personally, I'm going to push for consulting with the fans to find the best way to make sure the game stays a sporting spectacle rather than just someone's ego trip," said the closest associate to the Secretary of Sport, Željko Jovanović.
It's worth noting that Zdravko Mamić actually managed to unite the fans through the fight against what they call repression. Do you guys honestly believe these scenes from a peaceful derby can become the norm?
"Today, they were united by authority. Like I said the other day, we can always reach an agreement on the rules. Rules exist to be respected, not forced upon people. They are about consensus, provided certain conditions are met. We will never agree to chaos in the stadiums. If the fans want to bring order back to soccer, my door is always open," he added.
I think it's pretty obvious why they're doing this... it’s all just a setup so the Dodgers fans can only buy tickets for the east stands. They want to stage some fake chaos so they have an excuse to clear out the NFL Ultras and throw them in holding cells... I guess it's up to us to show them we aren't just a bunch of idiots...
It wouldn't even surprise me if the casual fans started chanting stuff like "crush the hooligans" or "screw the city"...
Alex Campbell54 said:Wait, hold on. The game starts at 3:00 PM, but they’re selling tickets until 3:45?
Well, tickets usually stay on sale until the end of the first half...
And yeah, regarding what was asked above—you can buy extra tickets, but you'd need to have everyone's ID on you. Which, like he said, feels like breaking the rules, but I guess that's how it is...
Real Madrid vs. Los Angeles Dodgers December 1, 2013, 3:00 PM, Yankee Stadium
If the FBI gives the green light for ticket sales on game day, here is how it looks:
West Ticket Booth: 9:00 AM - 3:45 PM
Yankee Stadium Ticket Booth: 12:00 PM - 3:45 PM
Jakić Ticket Booth: 12:00 PM - 3:45 PM
One person can grab up to 6 tickets max. They’re all personalized—meaning they have the fan's actual name on them—so I guess you'll need to show an ID or a photo of one when you buy them. If you're getting one for a kid under 16, maybe just bring a health insurance card or a copy of it? It has all the info needed, and it's probably easier to carry than a birth certificate.
"It’s not really the flares or the pyrotechnics that are the issue, it's more about the racist chanting and insults. We’re going to have strict security at the stadium gates. Local police and even state troopers are helping us out, so we'll have the list of Kansas City Chiefs fans ready. We'll do everything possible to prevent any issues. We don't want the game interrupted," Kerovec said, announcing that they'll be doing thorough fan checks and identity verifications.
see, now suddenly it isn't the flares or anything else, it's just Mamić being a crook... they sure change their story and their mindset fast
If people feel like any government agency is withholding info they have a legal right to see, they can reach out to this professor over at the University of Chicago Law School. It might be a pretty tough job for her, I guess.
copperharbor02 said:Thank God there's still some space. There's a 10m buffer zone, and the northeast section near the rocks is totally empty. People can basically run from one side of the stands to the other without any barriers, and on top of all that, now they're saying tickets will be tied to your legal name. It’s like keeping animals in a cage. I've seen this kind of thing before in Great Britain.
If things keep going this way, I guess a serious underground scene is going to pop up within a few years.
The only real difference between you guys and us right now... is that you'll actually get tickets directly from your club. We don't stand a chance of getting anything from the league, since they're already doing that voucher thing over in Europe...
According to him, at every stadium hosting high-risk games, they’ll set up an office for a dedicated referee on-site. This person will hand out immediate penalties to fans who get banned from stadiums, and I guess there will be zero tolerance if anyone uses pyrotechnics.
So, does this mean the right to an appeal or even having a lawyer is just gone now? 🤔