Posts by Rachel Vaughn85

John Myers7 said:I figured I'd jump in here too.

I had my rhinoplasty with Dr. Glumičić about 7 days ago.
Everything went smoothly. So far, I'm actually pretty happy with how the profile looks.
But honestly, I’m feeling super self-conscious. It’s like I’m expecting everyone on the street to just stare at me and shout, "Wow, look how fake that looks!" 😁 I mean, I know the swelling still needs to go down and things need time to settle...
Anyway, just wanted to show you guys the difference—here's the profile and a front view from just now. It doesn't quite have its final shape yet. (My nose used to be incredibly thin, but right now it feels like a potato 😁 )

Man, that Glumičić... My first thought was that I'd never go to him, but then I see results like this cute little nose. 😁 To be honest, I worry if he's actually skilled enough at what he does, since there have been so many complaints about him. You always want to make sure an aesthetically successful surgery isn't hiding the fact that something went wrong with the actual function! 😁 Don't get me wrong, obviously I'm happy to see cases turn out well 😛 Personally, I love the profile. Post some photos from the front too! 😉

PS. I really hope everything turns out okay and the swelling goes down soon! 👍

analogbison15 said:Is it okay if I go get a full facial cleansing? It’s been exactly mjesec dan since my surgery.

Already? Man, time really flies. 😁
When are you gonna drop the photos? 😉 How are you feeling? 🙂

hollowcanyon7 said:What do you guys think about my nose? Should I get surgery or just leave it alone? Here are some photos Attachment 13833Attachment 13833

I think the only thing that really matters is what you think. If you're going to go through with surgery, you should do it strictly for yourself! 🙂

analogbison15 said:It wasn't really about him bragging about his work or anything. It’s more that since my nose was crooked to begin with (the left side was a bit off), he told me during the consultation that he couldn't guarantee 100% perfect symmetry... but emphasizing that specific part of the surgery, he did say it turned out really well. 😁

I'm just resting and watching movies on my tablet, no worries at all, haha!! I don't have any side effects whatsoever, aside from a stuffed-up nose, which makes sense, but I can handle that easily enough.
He looks like Hannibal with all those bandages on :O

Aha, okay, then that's great! 🙂
Well, you're lucky you're feeling so good so far 🙂 Some people say their third day was the worst, but it doesn't hit everyone the same way. I really hope you keep feeling this good; I'm genuinely happy for you. 😁

analogbison15 said:Hey guys, I'm just lying in bed resting right now. Heading back to the hotel at 3:30 PM.
Everything went perfectly. Tony and the whole staff were great (especially that blonde receptionist/nurse, she was an absolute queen) 🙂

I feel awesome, no nausea at all... just feeling a bit of pressure in my nose from the swelling.

When the surgery wrapped up, the anesthesiologist actually said, "WOW, what a beautiful nose," and the doctor told me it turned out great!! 😁

Who's going to be around next Monday so I can show you all?

I'm so glad to hear you're feeling good and that everything went smoothly! 🙂
As for him praising his own work—well, they all try their best to convince you that you couldn't have possibly gotten a better result than this 😁 , so hang tight until Monday, but let's hope he's telling the truth and you'll love it! 😉 🙂
Keep us posted, and until then, just get some rest! 👋

Betty Edwards22 said:Look, I’m talking about the entire conversation you were having with him—which I know now because you're clearly getting defensive about it. Honestly, I couldn't care less if there were two people involved or five; it doesn't change anything for me.

You can't explain anything to him at this point. He’s still looking at it like he's just trying to strip some copper wiring out of a wall, while I'm over here trying to have a conversation with someone actually using their brain. I might be able to clear up a few minor details, but once he's fully committed to his delusions? Yeah, good luck. It's basically impossible.

You should have just replied directly under his post instead of posting this, where it’s painfully obvious my take isn't yours. Telling someone, "Just go home; your nose surgery is nothing," isn't helpful—you should be trying to actually convince them otherwise. I honestly believe everything can be explained if you actually care enough to make someone understand. Sometimes you just need to have some patience and show a little humanity instead of getting worked up and talking down to people just because they hold a different opinion. If you work in healthcare, you really should know better. None of us know everything about everything, and we certainly don't have to.
Did he actually do his homework before making such a massive, high-stakes move? I mean, it’s not really my place to judge. If you want to help him out, then give him everything you've got. But if he just won't get it, that's on him. At least you can tell yourself you tried. On the other hand, if you feel like you can't be of any use, then maybe just stay quiet? I don't get why everyone is so worked up. It's not like all this yelling is actually helping anyone.
Besides that, I feel like... Surgeon Who exactly is performing the surgery? The surgeon is supposed to walk him through every single detail regarding the procedure and the recovery process, but clearly, that didn't happen during the consultation. I highly doubt the guy would be okay with pulling a 4-5 hour flight on the very same day as his surgery if he’d actually had a decent, thorough conversation first. He probably still has a mountain of unanswered questions hanging over his head. Honestly, if I were in his shoes, I wouldn't be rushing into this either. I definitely wouldn't be putting myself in anyone's hands until they gave me straight answers to everything I need to know. Like you said, this isn't some minor thing where you just "go in to get a mole removed."
Look, it is what it is. In my opinion, everything's already been decided, so why shouldn't we step up and help him out as much as possible? We should aim to make this as successful as we can and hopefully make things a little easier on him personally. I mean, isn't that exactly what this forum is for? That's just how I see it.
He finally figured out the best way to handle everything given the circumstances. He’s actually done his homework on the city he's moving to so he can hit the ground running and settle in quickly. Now that we have some actual details, I just want to wish him the best of luck—he's heading into surgery tomorrow. Honestly, if even one piece of our advice helps him out, I'll be thrilled. I know firsthand how much it means to have someone show a little patience when you're in a situation like this. I'd rather someone draw me a helpful map than sit there lecturing me, acting all arrogant and high-and-mighty, leaving useless comments that don't help anyone.

Look, there’s way too much pointless philosophy going on here. To avoid getting totally off-topic, I’ll just give you my bottom line: As I understand it, this thread exists so we can swap experiences, ask questions, and actually answer them. If you think your own experience or some specific knowledge could actually help someone out, then go ahead and jump in. But if you feel like someone has completely lost the plot and you don't have the patience to deal with it, you don't need to say a damn thing. Honestly, if they’re getting on your nerves, just ignore their posts. Maybe someone else will have the energy to step in and help them.

🙂

Betty Edwards22 said:I don't get why you're taking this personally. You did write that, sure, but it wasn't exactly a definitive statement. Honestly, ever since he joined the forum, he's been making these weirdly off-base observations about the whole situation, which just shows how out of touch he really is.

Well, you were responding directly to my post, so how else am I supposed to take it? 🙄
Since I got the feeling I was being misunderstood, I explained that my take on this has nothing to do with what you're commenting on, because I never said any of that. That's it. 🙂
Fine, then you should have said that to him instead of me. 😁

Betty Edwards22 said:I honestly can't wrap my head around how some of you have such wild imaginations—it’s not like we're talking about removing a mole here!
People are literally in post-op recovery in a hospital, and you guys are out here suggesting they hop on buses or take taxis—???

I won't even get into the pricing or specific providers and their accommodations, because the whole thing just sounds ridiculous. The guy is going to be groggy from surgery, he might even need pain meds, and where is he supposed to eat? Just go to a local bakery, right?! This entire situation requires decent planning, like maybe bringing someone along to NYC with him.

And what did I actually tell him? I recommended that he absolutely should not travel the very next day, which was the most important point I wanted to make. He should just stay at their clinic for $133 if there isn't any other option. Sure, it’s expensive and doesn't make much sense, but if he could afford $3667 for the surgery itself, then he can swing an extra 400 for lodging. Mind you, I did suggest a cheaper alternative first: staying at a hostel near the clinic after the procedure. That would probably cost about the same as one night elsewhere and give him a few days to recover. A five-minute ride to a hostel is a small price to pay, just like the trip home would have been if he were from Chicago. But the guy is from out of town; he doesn't have many choices. Either he travels all the way back to Savannah, or he pays a couple hundred more to stay put until he's fit to travel.

The only thing I commented on was that remark: "The Best Actor is better because he includes one day of lodging, while charging thousands more than Tony." That makes zero sense to me. Both of them are overcharging. Why would the first one be better than the second? One is charging a fortune for the surgery, and the other is charging a fortune for the room.

So, I have no idea why you're even targeting my post. I never recommended taking buses or traveling, and I didn't clap for Tony regarding his nightly rates either, so... 🤷

driftingheron34 said:It feels weird to me that these supposedly "serious clinics" push you out immediately after surgery. I mean, it’s not enough that you already paid them $3.75; can't they at least let you sleep through the first night? Just sleeping in the clinic, no other service, food, or anything. And then they still try to force you to pay $133 for a single night. I don't think it used to be like this. With Glumičić and others, you actually get full service and accommodation. Sure, they're the most expensive, but at least you get the stay and everything included.

How long does the operation take?
Honestly, this looks more like they just grab your money, rush you through surgery, and then they're done with you—no further obligations or responsibilities. I really don't like this capitalist approach from Tončić and a handful of other clinics.

Yeah, well, it's better to pay someone else a few thousand dollars more if you'll get a free overnight stay. If you ended up paying a few hundred dollars extra elsewhere to include it, it would probably end up being cheaper overall anyway. And who's to say they'll care about you any more than the guy who lets you rest at home if he thinks you're up for it?
In all likelihood, it won't even be him watching over you all night; it'll be nurses or medical techs. A higher price tag definitely isn't a measure of quality of service or surgical success. Plenty of people have gone for the premium option only to end up deeply disappointed. You have to go with your gut, and of course, gather as much info as possible about the surgeon you're eyeing. Look at whether successful surgeries outweigh the failures in his career. That's how you'll eventually find the best one for you. 🙂

analogbison15 said:The bus takes the interstate instead of the old backroads, so it should be a smooth ride... plus, I find it way easier to travel at night so I can just zone out, pop some headphones on, and relax.

EDIT: Any idea what the cheapest taxi would run to get there? And are there any buses running out of Milltown?

I actually just looked up some taxi rates for you. I'll shoot everything over in a DM so we don't clutter the thread.

analogbison15 said:Is it doable if I have the procedure in the morning and then catch a bus out of NYC at 10:00 PM? It’s not like I’ll ruin myself by sitting up for a few hours instead of lying down. It’s about a 4-hour drive back to my hometown.
It’s just easier this way since I have a pass for the bus and don't have to pay, plus I don't have anyone in NYC to stay with. :/

The clinic accommodation is $133/night which is honestly a bit much for a student like me!

So where exactly are you going to be from the morning until 10:00 PM? Usually, you're discharged from the clinic maybe 2 or 3 hours after the surgery, and then you head home or wherever. They aren't going to keep you there until 10:00 PM, and you really need somewhere to lie down and rest. You never know how you're going to feel post-op. Some people feel fine, but others are exhausted, totally "out of it," or dealing with intense headaches and stuff like that. A long drive isn't exactly a walk in the park. Between the turns and the potholes, you'll be bouncing around constantly—I think your head might actually explode. If you managed to scrape together 11 thousand dollars, then honestly, just shell out the extra 400 so you don't have to worry. Look out for yourself.

PS. Try looking for hostels or cheap stays near the Mill where the clinic is located. That area is only about an 8-10 minute drive from downtown Chicago near Times Square, so there should be plenty of hostels in that stretch where you can find a room for maybe 100 bucks. Just Google hostels/apartments, use Google Maps, and you're set! Once you leave the clinic, grab a taxi, give them the address, and you're good to go.

analogbison15 said:I definitely don't want a nose like that guy's :/
I really want mine to be perfectly straight and flat, without that huge tip sticking out like the guy in this picture!
Is it better to go in for a consultation a week before, or just show up on the day of the surgery when the appointment comes?

Well, obviously you should spend as much time with the surgeon as possible before the procedure. You need to be specific and know what you actually want so you can explain it clearly, instead of just showing up and saying: "Here I am, I want a pretty nose, just tell me when to come back for surgery!" .
PS. I'm not saying he'll make your nose look exactly like my example, and he can't predict the exact outcome, but I've noticed that with most men, they aim for a nose that isn't too narrow, too small, or too "tight" against the face. Though, maybe those were just his patients' wishes. Either way, talk to him as much as you can and be clear about what you want.

analogbison15 said:So, I've decided to go with Dr. Anthony Fauci—he's got the best prices! I'm heading in for a consultation in a few days.
Does anyone have any positive experiences with this doctor?

But this reply I got in my email a few days ago is really bothering me :/
"We also appreciate the photos you sent over. After analyzing the images, looking at the nose from the front, we cannot guarantee that the nose can be made completely straight. Looking at the profile, we can remove the hump and straighten the nose while lifting the tip."

What do you guys think? Will my nose look good from the side once the hump is gone, shrunk, and the tip is lifted?

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I have a feeling Tončić might do something similar to this (click the photo), which personally I don't like at all because the nose sticks out way too much from the face. It doesn't fit quite right, and with that part protruding above the lip, I feel like it's all just pulled too far outward. Still, your nose is a bit different, so maybe it’ll turn out better, and since your goals are different anyway, just make sure to explain exactly what you want. Emphasize what you definitely *don't* want, and obviously listen to what he says is actually possible so you know exactly where you stand. Good luck! 🙂

Maria Fisher46 said:Look, I’m asking nicely here: that Health PDF needs to stop suggesting—whether it's being blunt about it or just hinting—that people shouldn't tell their doctors the full truth about what's actually going on. Especially when we're talking about kids, this is dangerous territory.

Alright, my bad. I apologize. 🙂

Betty Edwards22 said:I try to explain things to him from both sides, though I mostly just lurk here and don't get too deep into the discussions since they always seem to circle back to the same old issues. I only jump in when someone is being fundamentally wrong, like he is. Someone told him his "hump would grow back," but honestly, that’s the least of his worries. If you go through with surgical rhinoplasty, you risk messing up the bone structure, which could prevent the nose from ever fully settling into its intended shape—creating a massive, irreversible problem.

Any responsible professional isn't going to engage in a serious discussion with a minor.

The biggest issue is that, from where he's standing, he doesn't grasp how the nose actually functions. He's making a mountain out of a molehill, much like others here who might be overreacting without really understanding the mechanics. Or maybe he's just exaggerating everything himself.

Look, when I said "just let it go," I didn't mean "why are you meddling?!" I meant it because he clearly isn't interested in listening to what we have to say. 😁
I realize many of you work in healthcare and actually know what you're talking about, so your advice is definitely appreciated. But seriously, if our input isn't enough for him, he should just go see a surgeon. He can let a pro tell him the exact same thing if he trusts them more than us—most of whom aren't specialists (even if there are a few exceptions here that he isn't aware of). 🙂

Mark Young10 said::/:/:/;/
If I have to go under the knife again for 5g, then whatever... it doesn't matter. I'll deal with everything all over again if I have to, just so my nose looks okay. I'm really curious how that 13-year-old girl's nose turned out after her surgery... I'll try to post some pictures here.

Let me put this in plain English:
You are putting your looks ahead of your health, is that clear enough?
It’s not just about the fact that you'll "just" have to undergo another surgery, cough up more cash, and deal with the pain; it's about the fact that you could actually ruin your nasal function, which is working fine right now! What’s the point of having a slightly prettier nose (which won't be perfect anyway) if you end up struggling to breathe 15 times harder than before because you rushed things instead of waiting for the right time?

Here is what I suggest: Stop obsessively researching on this forum, because you aren't actually listening, and none of us are medical professionals who can give you a diagnosis. Instead, go see one of those highly-rated surgeons at a major hospital in your area—if they'll even let you in for a consultation—and just ask questions while you're there. Avoid private clinics for now; a lot of them are just in it for the money (not all of them, obviously, there are great ones, but given how desperate you seem to get this done, I'm worried you might rush it and pick anyone). Basically, go to your primary care doctor, get a referral, and tell them you've been having trouble breathing through your nose and want to make sure everything is functioning correctly. That way, you might actually get a free consultation with a specialist who can explain things properly and hopefully put your mind at ease.

If I'm wrong about any of this, please feel free to correct me! 🙂

Betty Edwards22 said:Just post them here and you'll see how much public opinion actually matters—it carries way more weight than just MY single opinion. I'm looking at this from a functional standpoint, and honestly, no surgeon is going to touch an operation if they sense the patient has a problematic relationship with themselves. No surgery can fix that.

Look, clearly this isn't enough. They should go in for a consultation and listen to all of this from the jump; maybe they'll trust a surgeon more than us mere mortals. 😉 I get that the kid is ready to do anything just to stop being belittled and insulted by others, but he needs a professional to walk him through the details and open his eyes. I just really hope he doesn't run into some hack who thinks they're a surgeon and tries to operate on a 14-year-old on their own whim.

@Mark Young10/">@@Mark Young10, please, just use some common sense and make sure one of the parents is right there with him, especially if you're already diving into surgical prep this early (but definitely not the actual surgery yet 😉 ) 🙂

neonstag63 said:Just because some celebrities are reckless with their health doesn't mean you should follow suit. 🤷

I totally agree. But hey, if you want to go see a surgeon, pay for a consultation just to have them tell you the exact same thing, go for it. 🙂
I don't see anything wrong with that; if seeing a specialist gives you peace of mind, then by all means, get a professional opinion. 🙂

Mark Young10 said:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1007371.html

That’s just how it feels for me... I hate taking pictures or anything... because people go, "OH MY GOD, LOOK AT THAT NOSE..." and all that crap. I figure if I wait maybe one more year max, then I'll go under the knife.😉😠😢

I totally get where you're coming from, and I know it really hurts, especially at the age you're at right now. But honestly, it's just not the time yet—please think about your health. Why rush into surgery, blow through all that cash, take on such a huge risk, and put that pressure on your parents? They probably wouldn't even feel okay agreeing to it since you're still a minor, and it's their kid on the line. Plus, you'd deal with the recovery pain only to potentially need a touch-up in a few years. It's not cheap, and it's definitely not easy, physically or mentally.

Maybe try working on your mindset a bit more (like I mentioned before) and learn how to shut down those shallow bullies with some class. It'll put them in their place. Trust me, they aren't any better looking or smarter than you, and they've got plenty of flaws too! Everyone has them, but attacking someone over their looks is just pathetic and mindless. They don't have anything else to say, so they pick on something you can't control—your nose is what it is, and you didn't choose it. On the flip side, they can actually control their own intelligence and behavior, but clearly, they aren't quite there yet. So, you've got plenty of ammunition to throw back at them 😉

In my opinion, it's way easier to learn how to stand up to that kind of teasing and hold your ground (which will actually help build your character for the future) than it is to throw several thousand dollars into the wind and gamble with your health. Later in life, when things are more stable and you're ready for surgery, if you still truly want it, go for it. But do it strictly for yourself, not for anyone else—remember that! 🙂

Mark Young10 said:I'm 14... and I'm thinking about surgery because I just can't deal with this anymore... :/

Look, Mark Young10, just hang in there until you actually finish growing up. 😉
Basically, stay strong and be patient while you go through puberty. You're still developing—you're right at the start of that massive growth spurt and all those physical changes. Honestly, any surgeon would tell you the exact same thing. For now, focus on your mental health and building your confidence (don't let people get to you if they're giving you a hard time, which I assume happens at your age). Just hold on a little longer; you have plenty of time to address this "issue" later if that's what you decide to do. Things will settle down, but your intelligence and your health have to come first! 🙂