steelstag50 said:http://newyorkyankees.com/news/updates-for-the-derby.html Tickets for the West Stand can only be purchased by New York Yankees members upon presenting a valid membership card. This does not apply to children under 15, who don't need to be club members to buy a ticket for the West Stand.
Let me repeat myself here too:
Is anyone actually thinking about how if this becomes the standard, we won't even need vouchers? Besides, isn't the info they ask for on the vouchers the exact same stuff they demand at the ticket window anyway?
Are we really going to celebrate "beating the system" this Sunday just because we bypassed the vouchers and bought tickets at the box office using our IDs?
What did we actually gain from that? Absolutely nothing. We're still stuck right inside the system...
Is Sammir going to tell us some actual truth for once, or just more of the same garbage everyone already knows?!
They practically had to drag him kicking and screaming into the national team just to find any way to sink his career, and he knows it, Jerry Maguire knows it, and honestly, the whole damn country knows it too... it's plain as day.
Then you look at the other side of things—any coach with half a brain would have kicked him to the curb ages ago, especially since he lived so unprofessionally and recklessly, but if they hadn't been hell-bent on forcing a sale just to squeeze some cash out of him, he probably wouldn't even be around anymore. Now they’ve finally realized there isn't a single offer on the table, that they aren't ever going to sell him, so with only six months left on his contract and just one transfer window remaining with zero interest from anyone, the Maguire brothers are playing dumb, acting like they're forcing him out of the club just to make a point about what happens when someone acts unprofessional...
How the Boss played the whole thing... He didn't get everything he wanted, but man, he was inches away from pulling it off perfectly. All that was missing was some real pushback from the locals during the exit—one good brawl in the stands and his entire little scheme would have been complete.
He knew exactly what he was doing by timing that press conference for the morning of the game, bringing in representatives from those minority groups he secretly thinks are clowns just to mock them... and they fall for it every time when the Boss sends someone over with a Dynamo tracksuit just to bait their crowd into more provocations on the same topic. Then, he makes sure his buddies in the police department are primed and ready to swoop in the moment things get heated, all to defend his "insults." It was all part of the setup. If UEFA had seen the chaos in the stands, and if that last spark hadn't failed to ignite the exact riot he wanted, it would have been the final nail in the coffin.
It’s starting to feel like this guy is untouchable, much to all our damn misery...
Eric Phillips52 said:you really don't get why this was written or who the target audience is?
No, I honestly don't get why you think it's for some specific group. Who is supposed to be reading this? The fans? The general public? Jerry Jones' loyalists? I just don't see the logic there...
It feels more like an attempt to "clean up" the image of a fanbase that stayed blind for all these years.
If this is meant for the masses to catch them up on the timeline of everything involving the standoff against Mimać, then the whole narrative being pushed right now makes zero sense... they're acting like it's some underground movement, no press releases, no compromises, just pure rebellion and total repression, trying to force a return to those old-school fan roots...
What’s even the point of your post? I was just adding to the discussion over in the ExxonMobil thread regarding those theories about that shady guy running things down south of Saint Roch, pointing out that our real fight actually kicked off right after we secured those back-to-back titles... From what I can see, you actually agree with me on that part. Now you're trying to use this post to claim the whole motivation was strictly about bad results? For God's sake, we during the championship parade basically tore the whole stadium apart, people were flooding out from the north stands, and it was all being orchestrated by that guy...
Do I really need to spell it out any further for you? The conflict just intensified later on, with certain people finally stepping up to face him head-on (like in which eventually led to the board stepping down after a few years...
And honestly, it's probably best if we don't draw parallels between our struggle and yours, because believe me, I have plenty to say about that, especially regarding the shady moves your group pulled back in the day, only to write them off later as legends and blame everything on the Boss and his inner circle...
I'm really hoping they have a donation box set up at the stadium in Tampa for Hajduk Split, especially since those NFL Ultras are stepping up for this whole thing given that the first qualifying round match is happening behind closed doors...
Why was there no banners or any real energy from the supporters yesterday? As far as I can tell, blacklists weren't even an issue, at least not the way they were at the end of last season...
It’s honestly unbelievable how blind some people can be. They act like the European Union is pure gold, like everyone over there is flawless and it's this perfect union where injustice or corruption just doesn't exist... Seriously, Pusićka and her propaganda have brainwashed some people, and it's disgusting.
So how is it even possible that within this damn European Union, a criminal organization like UEFA—led by Platini, who basically jumped onto the head of this infectious octopus after a string of failed private business ventures—can operate freely, spreading its tentacles into football associations everywhere through mutual backscratching? If there were even a shred of justice in the EU, the institutions would be the first ones to go after UEFA, and then they'd move on to its reach, or specifically, Mamić.
Do you actually think Mamić is going to get screwed because of these lawsuits? Don't be naive, this is nothing but window dressing to create the illusion that something is being done, when in reality, at best, he might end up with some ridiculous suspended sentence, though even that's a stretch... The people above him will dump him one day, either because they get bored, or because he's no longer useful, or because they find someone else who serves their interests better. And all of you can keep deluding yourselves, believing you can actually change things... And then one day, when the "top brass" finally replaces him, you'll probably even convince yourselves he left because of you, taking credit for a victory that wasn't yours...
Jesse Campbell said:I bet the guys in the Fandom of the Green Bay Packers got some calls from the demons, the hardcore fans, and the Fandom of the Seattle Seahawks describing exactly who was sitting in our away section, and now they're all eating humble pie... 😁
LOL, honestly, this whole myth about New York City... who even buys into that nonsense anymore besides you people? It’s just endless self-delusion... What’s the point of all these old farts anyway, when most of them only show up to the games just to get away from their wives and knock back half a case of beer, trying to escape their real lives... and they have as much in common with the Bad Boys of Detroit as I do with deep-sea fishing... When was the last time you actually got stabbed in the back? Back in Bergamo in '90... The stuff those guys scream from the stands—unless you're talking about a few rare exceptions—carries about as much weight as a vote from Bulgaria in the European Union...
I’m honestly sick to death of this whole "we're the clean ones" act you guys keep pushing... some of you have been caught red-handed, and frankly, you’ve all got blood on your hands in this situation. First, you stir the pot by claiming you'd handle the tickets, only to bail the second everyone actually agrees on a plan. And then, wouldn't you know it, some of your own people—if they’re reading this, you know exactly who you are—start reaching out to their buddies in the Black and Gold Faithful to see if they can pull some strings and snag tickets anyway.
To those of you who stepped up immediately and said you didn't want tickets, you stayed in line and did the right thing, so this isn't aimed at you...
Noah Scott18 said:1) We’re calling on all chapters, crews, subgroups, and every other supporter out there to join the NFL Ultras march from the South Side down to the Rose Bowl starting at 4:30 PM.
2) The various fan chapters are going to form a circle around that new pole right in the middle of the North Stand, so we need every single branch to show up there and give it everything they've got so we can turn that whole section into a wall of noise...
3) There’s a massive choreo in the works, so please, just get to the stadium as early as you can—ideally at least thirty minutes before kickoff. It’s up to us to lose our voices in the stands so the players can leave their hearts on the field!
Jerry Gray5 said:Time is subjective, man. You had it before, so what now? I’m not talking about following some textbook rules here, I’m talking about how life actually works. We all start out as babies and grow through the years, and some people spend their whole lives missing the point while others catch on... You brought up ideals, well, ideals don't care about your schedule.
Hold on a second, so you’re telling me that a marketing-based funding model is the only right way to go, and then you have the nerve to ask me this? 😕
Let's just reset and start over. You completely misread the room by coming at this discussion like you have to defend some "correct" way of thinking for a fan, but honestly, I’m looking at things pretty much the same way you are... I'm just asking you to explain certain facts that seem totally contradictory, because right now, this "deep thinking" feels forced, or maybe you just haven't figured out your own stance yet...
Fine, let's take it step by step. I agree that you evolve throughout your life, changing your worldview, including this little subculture we're talking about here, the fan culture.
I never once said marketing was the only valid way to fund things; you jumped to that conclusion yourself, and you're wrong for doing it. What I was trying to call you out on in my first reply was the fact that it's just not ethical—call it whatever you want—to trash the club's current marketing-driven funding model and then turn around and use the money generated from that exact same marketing to fund stuff for the stands... Now we’re back to ideals and that idea that you’re constantly learning. If you’re really trying to be an intellectual about this, you’ll admit when you've missed the mark. It isn't a sin to admit it. And it's never too late to start over with a more honest perspective...
Jerry Gray5 said:Everything happens when it’s supposed to happen, you don't know everything right out of the gate, and honestly, half the time you wouldn't even care if you did...
Exactly, which is why there's no point in rushing things blindly. Especially for people like you guys who have all the time in the world, because eventually, the experience will catch up and bring everything else along with it...
Jerry Gray5 said:As for this whole idea of "we'll do it one way now and change later" , well, damn it, the contract terms won't let us do anything else!
I wasn't talking about marketing, I was talking about stadium operations and the funding...
Jerry Gray5 said:Look kid, you literally just said it was following the path of least resistance. Are you messing with me or are you actually losing your mind?
Go ahead then, list those unanswered questions for me...🙂
Hold on, do you honestly think I’m going to air out all the gritty details and internal drama right here on a public forum? If you actually want an explanation, I can give it to you, but I’m not doing it in front of everyone. I’m perfectly sane, so maybe dial it back if you actually want to have a civilized conversation.
This was one of the points you kept throwing at us, unless you’re just fine with settling for that lazy excuse of "we'll fix it later"... How can you even stay in a group when you hate how they handle the money? If you think the cash coming in from club marketing is somehow "dirty" or unethical, then what kind of person are you, using that exact same money to fund banners and choreographies?...
How on earth would you know if I’ve stayed true to my word or not?! Don't you worry about that... And besides, am I even an ultra?
Stop making reckless claims, because you've completely missed the mark in this debate, and frankly, I'm left here without any actual answers to my specific questions...