William Bennett53 said:I have a proposal to resolve this entire mess. It might be considered somewhat radical, but I truly believe it is constructive and offers a fair compromise (and no, this isn't an attempt by users facing permanent bans to lobby for a moderator's resignation).
What if we were to—at least within the context of the Formula 1 sub-forum, which is far too small to afford the luxury of chasing after enthusiasts like Jason Campbell70—offer those users who constantly clash with the rules and live perpetually on the edge (let's call them "the outliers") the chance to transfer their partial bans from our sub-forum back to the main soccer board.
The issue, as I see it, is that these individuals fail to grasp a fundamental reality: a moderator, regardless of who they are, cannot be expected to exercise the same level of patience toward someone who maintains hundreds of burner accounts and alt profiles as they do toward the rest of the community. They constantly stir up drama and direct their grievances at the moderators and their enforcement actions. If we offered them the option to move their partial ban away from here, provided they also forfeit the ability to mentally harass moderators with endless complaints whenever they mess up, I believe we would satisfy both the agitators and the rule-enforcers.
In the current situation involving the recent disciplinary action, our valued and helpful community members would return to where they belong—the Formula 1 section. However, when someone strays and picks up a red card, they must learn to accept the consequences. Alternatively, if they prefer, they could request to move their ban to the soccer board and regain access to Formula 1. In turn, the moderators would get back a productive user who won't drive them insane by spamming the appeals section over every single penalty. What are your thoughts?
That’s an interesting suggestion, but honestly, it feels pretty risky. How is he supposed to get hit with a ban if a moderator just drops a hundred-point penalty on him for some nonsense? He won't. He'll just serve his three-day suspension, come back, and then the moderator will immediately toss him into a timeout for another three days without any actual reason. What happens then?
I'm not saying the mods would actually go through with it, but there's always that massive "BUT..." hanging in the air.
That doesn't even make sense, because I wouldn't be heading to an MLS match for another ten months, but I've already been on parole for four, which means I'll be looking for a pardon in about two months.
Ryan Vaughn7, I’ll be the first to admit I was the one at fault for the betting split on the soccer match; I just didn't really click with the rest of the guys hanging out in the corner, but now we’re looking at this whole new mess where Los Angeles FC is basically being suffocated, and honestly, I feel like I have every right to vent about the fate of a club that’s been completely robbed, especially since my last post on this board was five whole days ago, which pretty much proves I’ve run out of interesting things to say here because the good topics are being kept from me.
Hey admin, give me a trial run. Is it really that big of a deal?
Look, I’m asking for a pardon here, and hopefully you can let me back into that MLS file after I’ve been MIA for a few months.
Given the whole mess with Los Angeles FC going bankrupt lately, I figured I might as well join the rest of the guys in the corner over there in their mourning session.
Look, I’m not out here campaigning to get rid of moderators entirely, I just think we need more honest discipline or, honestly, just letting people live their lives.
Man, you totally spooked me into thinking I shouldn't say anything else... just a quick heads-up though, this whole thread has absolutely nothing to do with my major in Politics.
I was honestly just trying to make this a slightly better corner of the internet.
Anyway, if anyone has something to add, go for it.
So, basically, people on here are always venting about how the mods act, and honestly, they mess up more often than not. But when you try to take it to the administration, 99.99% of the time they just back the mods up.
We need a reform because the current setup just isn't fair.
Here’s what I’m thinking:
- Three Administrators would be picked by a town hall council (which itself consists of elected members), and we'd keep that number odd—like 3 or 5 people—to decide whether an accused user actually broke the rules through a simple vote (guilty or not guilty).
It’s just a classic jury system, the kind used in all the major democracies out there, whereas what we've got going on here feels more like something you'd see in North Korea.
Doing this would make the forum a much better, more honest place for everyone.
Are you even listening to yourself? You’re just dropping "yes" everywhere without actually backing any of it up... Honestly, us regular folks on here deserve an apology from the admin team (except for Alice) and a Resignation from the head.