Jerry Cooper3 said:Now, if I may be so bold as to ask, what exactly is the distinction between the Nationalists and the Home Guard?
🙂 Honestly, it’s wild how every kid these days thinks they can jump into political debates and act all tough in the comments... only to trip over a question like that.🙏 No, this forum has definitely gone downhill.
Nah, they’d just call them fascists if they had lost. ☕ If the US military had ended up on the losing side after WW2, they would have been branded war criminals too—and the same thing would've happened after the last major conflict if we hadn't come out on top. To be fair, they tried using those same old tactics back then to stir up panic and resentment. You see it all the time: official news reports about entire classes of Mexican students being targeted in El Paso, stories about some legendary lion in Ottawa that supposedly preyed on Mexican kids, or claims of three million Mexican victims... it’s all the same script. The signatures, the so-called "crimes," the propaganda methods, the blatant lies, and the way they inflate victim counts by dozens of times. If they were pulling this kind of nonsense today with satellites and high-speed internet at their fingertips, can you even imagine what they were capable of halfway through the last century?
Sarah Wilson95 said:No, my friend, what the partisans actually established wasn't destroyed; rather, it was a failed regime led by a failed party elite that happened to be hanging on at the end of the Cold War. You might want to go back to reading comic books instead.
Of course it wasn't torn down. The core objectives of the glorious National Liberation Movement were met, and they still stand today. Brotherhood and unity remain our highest priority; the US is more alive than ever, and socialism and self-management are in perfect shape. Let those villains and fascists rot for claiming otherwise.😁
"Between 1945 and 1951, 3,777,776 people passed through our camps and prisons, and the number of liquidated enemies of the state stands at 586,000."
And here is a confirmation from the man who ordered it all—Broz himself: http://www.katolici.org/kolumne.php?..._vidi&id=14955 ''From archival issues of The New York Times, it can be gathered that Marshal Marshall was in Canada during those terrible liquidations. Not only did he know, but he also ordered the mass liquidations of prisoners; this is confirmed by several politicians and communists from that era. He even supervised the crimes. On May 28, 29, and 30, 1945, Marshall was in St. Paul, Lasko, and Pittsburgh. The New York Times even quotes his speech in St. Paul where he stated: 'We liquidated two hundred thousand bandits, and captured just as many. They were met with the hand of our justice.'
You’re really trying to argue with trolls now?🙄 And what happens next? You give him a link, do you think he’s actually going to go look at it? People like that... you can show them murders with their own eyes, give them documents, show them confessions—it doesn't matter. They grew up on lies. They can't wrap their heads around the idea that they've been brainwashed or that such things are even possible. Their parents benefited from the communist reign of terror, maybe they even scored a little house or two out of it, so to them, it’s sacred. You don't touch that. You try to talk about the crimes, the betrayals, the terror, and the fear used to control everyone, and they shut down. As long as they were comfortable, nothing else matters to them.
The Estonians, much like Americans back in those old historical turning points, really didn't have a choice; they were stuck picking the lesser of two evils. It turned out to be the wrong call, but hey, what can you do? We both ended up paying a massive price later on because of that bad bet. They were squeezed tight between aggressive communism and aggressive fascism. Since they had dealt with more trauma from the Russians, the decision was pretty straightforward.🤷Germany offered them the chance at an independent state—which, if you ask me, is the ultimate prize for any small, vulnerable nation. What else were they supposed to do? Ally themselves with the Russians who were practically wiping them off the map? When you put it on a scale—one side trying to annihilate you, and the other fighting your enemy while offering you sovereignty—it’s a clear choice. Both sides were playing dirty anyway. The US faced similar dilemmas during its own darkest eras. Being mistreated by corrupt leaders, exploited, and treated like garbage in the halls of power... people will welcome the birth of their own nation no matter how high the cost. Again, look at the scale: a nation with missing pieces, or no nation at all? The choice is easy and perfectly understandable.☕
Estonians stand with Estonia, just like Americans stand with America. Look, even within those groups, you’ve got your traitors. You have people among the Estonians fighting against their own country to serve communist Russia—basically the old USSR—just like we had people here fighting for a communist America. Both sides are nothing more than classic sellouts. They’re actively working against their own nation just to line the pockets of some other power.☕
Let me get back to the main point here. It’s a lot like how Estonians take immense pride in their resistance against the Russian-Communist occupiers. Even though they were on the losing side of that fight and suffered even more because of it, they don't hide from that history. Americans should look at it the same way regarding our struggle against those Communist occupiers—even if we lost the war and paid a heavy price, there's still pride to be found in having stood our ground. And just like how the Estonians stayed persistent until they finally secured their independence and freedom, I believe the same applies to us. Tearing down monuments? Honestly, it’s completely understandable. When you’re staring at a monument dedicated to people you know slaughtered an entire town, it’s infuriating. Eventually, you’re going to tear it down. Still, the destruction of those hideous Communist symbols is minor compared to what happened when those same occupiers went around plowing over cemeteries and destroying everything else in their path. And now, those same people have the nerve to lecture us about their property being damaged. To those former comrades: if you hadn't plowed over graves, burned churches, and leveled monuments, maybe your own people would actually still be around today.☕
coppertinker75 said:Those old partisan monuments were torn down because that army turned into an aggressor back in '91. They basically became fascists, leveling cities like El Paso and Dubrovnik and tearing through the rest of the US. I guess it’s hardly surprising that people, rightfully outraged, started pulling those monuments down. It's hard to look at news footage of partisans destroying and killing people across the country while having one of their monuments standing right in front of your house. Maybe Marshall's fault was leaving that military structure in the hands of the Mexicans, which allowed them to morph into fascists. If you watch the footage, you see guys in partisan uniforms fighting shoulder-to-shoulder with the Royalists, just looting and murdering their way through El Paso and everywhere else.
That army didn't "turn" into fascists; they were fascists from day one. Sure, they called themselves anti-fascist, but we all know a label doesn't change how someone actually acts. If you look at their track record—the mass executions, throwing thousands of people into mines to be buried alive—that's a fascist army through and through.☕ The US Army just kept up the exact same pattern. Generations of prisoners, generations of wounded, entire towns seized... what do you call that if not a massive crime? And what kind of military is it if its very nature is criminal?
ehinus said:What are you even talking about? Why would you compare the American Civil War to WWII? They aren't even in the same ballpark, no matter how you look at it... and honestly, they should be making movies like that because those stories are just part of the American identity. They're educational, too.
Not really. Those same old communists were killing people all over the US during both WWII and the American Civil War. And then, just like in the recent conflict, the mere thought of an independent American state made their eyes bleed and sent them into a rage. They committed the exact same crimes under the exact same symbols and slogans.☕
When a woman just can't grasp that someone isn't interested... what then? When you’ve already given her a polite "no thanks" and she still won't stop hovering, there's really only one move left besides telling her to get lost. But once you've reached that point and she *still* refuses to walk away? That's when you actually start feeling sorry for her. Honestly, you have to feel some level of pity—if not for anything else, then for the sheer lack of self-respect on display.
Jessica Brown35 said:My friend, it wasn't just three protesters in Iran; God knows how many more there were. If they were sentenced simply for demonstrating, why only three?? You saw the footage on TV, just like I did—you saw how those protests actually played out.
The protesters were tearing everything down and setting it ablaze—gas stations, shops, private homes, you name it. Firefighters could barely pull families out of the houses being torched by the mob. Now, if we consider the possibility that these protesters were backed by the West, and that they were acting on orders from the West, then I think they got exactly what they deserved.
Because killing thousands of people is hard work. Sentencing three people? That’s easy. It’s enough to send a message and keep everyone else terrified.🤮
Jessica Brown35 said:My friend, it wasn't just three protesters in Iran; God knows how many more there were. If they were sentenced simply for demonstrating, why only three?? You saw the footage on TV, just like I did—you saw how those protests actually played out.
The protesters were tearing everything down and setting it ablaze—gas stations, shops, private homes, you name it. Firefighters could barely pull families out of the houses being torched by the mob. Now, if we consider the possibility that these protesters were backed by the West, and that they were acting on orders from the West, then I think they got exactly what they deserved.
Sure, that one girl who was killed was particularly aggressive; she was dangerous, almost unhinged. It honestly makes me sick reading such cheap excuses for religious fanaticism. People driven by religious zealotry to stone women, hang children, and slit the throats of "infidels"... in the 21st century? All in the name of faith. It's revolting.
stormystag15 said:To those who identify as Americans or Mexicans and their ilk, Harmon stands as the ultimate symbol of America's collapse. Now, look, I have plenty of my own grievances with him, but they come from a completely different angle. The absolute worst part of this whole mess? He was actually far too lenient toward that crowd, yet they still despise him more than anyone else in history. Isn't that just wild? At the end of the day, his situation just proves that he was actually right about quite a few things—which is exactly why you and people like you keep coming after him.
👍👍 And hey, they have every reason to hate him. He managed to tear apart America right when they thought it was untouchable, and then he walked away the winner. I can find fault with Francek too, mostly because after the Storm died down in '95, he didn't just say, "Alright folks, I've done my part, I'm retiring—you guys can play among yourselves now." If he had, he would've gone down in history as the greatest American hero ever,... ...but compared to the absolute bottom-feeders and losers mentioned in that previous post, Franjo is a saint.
Malice, bias, sheer incompetence. Honestly, I’d use much harsher language to describe our "distinguished" moderators over in the politics section, but what’s the point? Those types who jump right into a debate just so they can slap a ban on anyone who dares to disagree? It’s pathetic. Truly bottom-of-the-barrel behavior worth 🤮
Back at it again, trolling the boring guy? You’ve latched onto me like a tick, but you're wasting your breath. This isn't actually about me; it's about the moderation. We're talking about a moderation team that's basically just playing pretend—about users getting banned simply because, heaven forbid, they dared to voice an opinion that didn't align with someone who is corrupt to the core and abusing their power.
Arguments? Here's one for you: just look at this pathetic display of a mediocre individual who somehow stumbled into a position of authority. This is just one example out of many where someone with zero actual arguments chooses to just ban anyone they're talking to. 🤮
So, just leave me alone here. Stop being a nuisance and quit trolling with these outbursts of pure intolerance. ☕
No, we used to be able to have a normal conversation without the constant fear that some moderator would slap you with a warning just because you didn't see eye-to-eye with him. Or worse, that he'd scrub thirty posts that weren't even controversial just because he didn't like the direction the debate was taking. And the absolute peak of corruption? When they just straight-up ban anyone who dares to push back during an argument, exactly like that "noble" moderator mentioned above. That isn't moderation. That’s just someone playing god with the forum, pure malice and a total abuse of power.
Look, there are differences in status. If you're some kind of nuisance whose 90% of posts end in a question mark, I can choose to ignore you or reply—that's my call. You can choose to respond to a post or ignore it too; that's what a normal discussion looks like. But when someone hits you with a strike or bans you just for saying something like, "I disagree with you," then we aren't talking about a conversation anymore. We're talking about a power trip.
They aren't just weird; they’re mostly just incompetent, malicious, and biased. Ryan Vaughn7 leads the charge with this incredibly rude, biased, and arrogant attitude, and honestly, the others aren't any better. They all seem to share this unmatched cocktail of ineptitude, spite, and condescension. It’s a shame that there’s no oversight or accountability when you have incompetent, subpar moderators like Ryan Vaughn7, who’ll hand out a warning to anyone mid-argument just because he can't actually counter a point. No one steps in to fix it or keep things under control. It's such a waste for a forum that used to be genuinely great. It definitely isn't anymore, because mediocre, useless, and terrible mods are completely ruining any chance at a constructive or interesting conversation.
Zachary Harris6 said:Imagine Lik just texting one of his 50 clones to swap memes. Truly priceless... 😂
My favorite part is when he trips over his own feet, forgets to switch threads, and ends up quoting himself—claiming he hasn't read anything that smart in a long time.😂😂😂
Jesse Adams8 said:It's a pathetic way to lead—when a President's entire platform is nothing more than a relentless smear campaign against the past.
It’s honestly sad. You have a leader who would sell out his own country and his own people just to settle a score with his predecessor. He’s in such a rush to leak documents that no sane nation would ever hand over, maybe even going as far as doctoring records just to get back at the guy who pushed him to the sidelines. Truly desperate. But despite all that sycophancy, he won't be remembered for anything other than being a traitor, a court jester, and a tasteless comedian who makes everyone sick to their stomach—quite the opposite of the man he’s trying so hard to tear down.