irondrifter4 said:Look, I’m not going to sit here and judge whether he’s refusing to admit it, playing dumb, or whatever—I don't care enough about him or this thread to play psychologist. But he wrote that I got that impression because I don't hang out here constantly and don't really know him. As for the telescopes—whether they were actually there or not (it was a long time ago, after all)—maybe they weren't specifically "telescopes," but don't worry, plenty of other gear fell into that category, so that's beside the point.
The bottom line is that things were getting messy, and you had every kind of crowd imaginable—from agitators to random bystanders. People were walking all over NYC just like they wanted to. Sure, there were clashes, but people were moving. Mostly because so many people were unorganized, which led to the chaos. Everyone was showing up in different ways, traveling all the way from the South, staying overnight, grabbing drinks, visiting family, or seeing their ladies 😁 and all that.
What exactly am I "not admitting"?
Fine, I’ll admit there were way more of you guys roaming around NYC than there ever were us in SF. There, I said it.
Did you walk through NYC however and wherever you pleased? Hell no. Sure, with a crowd that big, some people managed to pass through without a scratch, but that was the exception, not the rule.
Did people carry telescopes, sticks, or knives? I can guarantee you right now that in my crew—which was easily the most active group out there—nobody ever had anything in their hands.
Nobody, not even one of our guys, ever lost their cool or snatched a hat off someone's head just for talking too much. We’d just calmly hand over the salute, the flag, or the banner.