Protest against thread relocation
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I'm gonna show up to the protest. I mean, the whole point is his spot on the political stage, since he still manages to pull the strings from behind the scenes.
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Justin Patel8 said:First off—LA Galaxy didn't actually have much tradition or a set identity prior to the part mentioned above, since they were founded in 1945, right? It has nothing to do with The Hague or Citizens (which is just one of Harmon's fabrications). Secondly, USA played in the Champions League twice and actually pulled off some decent results, unlike LA Galaxy, who are mostly remembered as one of the worst teams in that competition—three goals scored, 22 conceded, and zero points. I really wonder which club foreign fans would actually respect more if they had to choose.
Note: I'm not a Harmon supporter, in case anyone was planning to jump to that conclusion.
Carol Newman2 said:Like that guy over there just singing? Man, he is absolutely killing it. Pure perfection. 😬
No, I'm not a Mexican. ☕
I have to agree with you on the programming lineup over at CBS.
velvetdrifter15 said:They're talking over the phone call
Donna Davis8 said:Look, I get what you're saying. Generally speaking, I agree. But I am pretty sure the average worker at Verizon isn't to blame for poor management or running at a loss. We all know who is responsible, and they don't get fired; instead, they get bonuses when expenses drop at the end of the year (mostly because of the massive payroll). It’s ironic.
Just look at what people say about Verizon. Most people are generally dissatisfied. I don't know why, and I won't dive into what needs to change since that's not my field, but it seems to me they need structural changes🤔 rather than letting go of "small-town" workers—basically the easiest targets like contractors, temporary staff, or those nearing retirement.
But hey, maybe I'm wrong. I'll leave it at that. 🙂
From my own experience, Verizon is a sneaky company. They basically trap you with those 18-month or longer contracts. Other companies do it too, but these guys aren't cheaper than the rest. You wouldn't expect this from someone who is supposed to be a telecom leader alongside AT&T. That’s just my take. They practically scammed a 55-year-old retiree by offering a cheap phone tied to a two-year plan. They promised the monthly cost would be $17, all inclusive, but the bills always come in at over $100. I hope she enjoys those extra dollars they squeezed out of her. May they choke on it.
Harold Wright6 said:When a company like that underperforms, it just helps their competitors grow, because the overall market size doesn't really change based on who's winning. Since this is a foreign-owned service company, the government won't even blink. If the company is as bad as you say, then it honestly doesn't matter if they survive or not.
A company being involved in corruption isn't necessarily tied to throwing parties. They meet with politicians at charity events all the time.
Harold Wright6 said:How exactly is Verizon's business a matter of state interest? We're talking about a service sector company with foreign ownership operating in a totally dynamic market.
Thinking it's normal to debate this on a political forum, or assuming the government should pressure them to stop layoffs, is exactly why our economy is in the state it's in.
Since when is it a problem if a private firm throws a party and spends whatever they want on it?
Harold Wright6 said:How exactly is Verizon's business a matter of state interest? We're talking about a service sector company with foreign ownership operating in a totally dynamic market.
Thinking it's normal to debate this on a political forum, or assuming the government should pressure them to stop layoffs, is exactly why our economy is in the state it's in.
Since when is it a problem if a private firm throws a party and spends whatever they want on it?
Harold Wright6 said:But at that point, the real issue is who they chose to fire, not the fact that they're laying people off 🤷
Another huge red flag for US society is that this whole topic was opened up on a political news site, even though it's a 100% private company.
mistybison10 said:Actually, that isn't foolishness at all, because making noise is necessary, whereas clinging to redundant staff is what truly fails; labor is nothing more than a response to demand, and if a task can be completed with fewer hands, there is absolutely no reason to do otherwise. We constantly witness this absurd tendency to put "work" on a pedestal as if it were some sacred ritual, when in reality, it is merely the provision of a component or service, no different from manufacturing a screw or any other trivial object. Once the demand for those screws vanishes, you stop ordering them, and quite logically, you no longer require the laborer either.
As for how Verizon manages its internal affairs, that is hardly our concern, but rather the sole responsibility of their owner, because if he chooses to let go of the wrong people, he is the one who will ultimately suffer the consequences.
mistybison10 said:Actually, that isn't foolishness at all, because making noise is necessary, whereas clinging to redundant staff is what truly fails; labor is nothing more than a response to demand, and if a task can be completed with fewer hands, there is absolutely no reason to do otherwise. We constantly witness this absurd tendency to put "work" on a pedestal as if it were some sacred ritual, when in reality, it is merely the provision of a component or service, no different from manufacturing a screw or any other trivial object. Once the demand for those screws vanishes, you stop ordering them, and quite logically, you no longer require the laborer either.
As for how Verizon manages its internal affairs, that is hardly our concern, but rather the sole responsibility of their owner, because if he chooses to let go of the wrong people, he is the one who will ultimately suffer the consequences.
Harold Wright6 said:Spending money on nonsense doesn't actually have anything to do with layoffs. Cutting excess staff and getting rid of low-quality or redundant roles is a smart move for long-term stability—it helps both the employees and the company's bottom line. I'm definitely not saying money isn't being wasted; that goes for management too, of course!
Verizon moving into this market segment makes perfect sense and was totally expected. As for those aggressive moves during slower business cycles? That's exactly what ensures the company stays protected and survives, which ultimately saves jobs in the long run.
mistybison10 said:First off, that’s almost certainly just a typo. Secondly, Verizon is preemptively cutting staff in that specific sector before any actual losses even hit the books. If you want to survive, the smartest move is to restructure during the years when you actually have the capital to cover it. As for the Bnet acquisition, that's purely about expanding their reach, and it has absolutely nothing to do with Verizon's core business model.
Carl Foster8 said:Management definitely plays a role, but those above them—all the way up to the owners—are the ones responsible for firing people. At the end of the day, the owner is the one deciding how many layoffs happen and where.
So, did they only fire the entry-level staff at Verizon?
Sam Green73 said:During that specific discussion I went ahead and wiped out every single post that tried to make excuses for those crimes, regardless of whether they came from the "liberal" side or the "conservative" side.
Is there some specific reason you're looking to read "justifications" for committed crimes in this thread?