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Lisa Davis46 said:Look, what I'm trying to get at regarding Whale is that maybe that whole tacky, cliché nudity thing wasn't actually a democratic call made by everyone in the band. I'm pretty sure about that, honestly, because it just doesn't line up with her personal views or her overall aesthetic—especially since she spends so much of her work seriously deconstructing the whole concept of the body.

I appreciate the effort, really, but I've been hanging around Norwegian music forums for over a decade now, so...

That's all.
Lisa Davis46 said:okay, maybe I'm just being too sensitive.

but out of the stuff that's somewhat well-known, a lot of it feels super tacky and vulgar to me (not like, that good kind of gritty vulgar).
and I don't just mean with the music...

Look, I'm sensitive too—total cry-baby status, honestly. I'll tear up over things most people wouldn't even notice. But I don't think it's about being sensitive; it’s more like this music either clicks with you during puberty or it never does. My mom used to blast Iggy Pop, and my neighbor was all about thrash metal, so naturally, I "leveled up" to heavier stuff back in middle school. As I got older though, a lot of stuff just started bugging me. Nowadays, there's almost zero chance I'm gonna sit through some death metal band I'm not already used to, so I think what you're feeling is totally normal. Don't sweat it if you aren't feeling certain stuff.

and I still don't get what you're talking about, because that's clearly not Björk on the cover.

Gosh, I didn't mean to drag this out, I just wanted to say I've known Björk for ages and for totally valid reasons. Let me try to explain my point quickly: I know it's not her on the cover and it doesn't matter who it is, it's just that there's this whole tradition in the rock/metal scene where they try to sell albums or grab attention using "boobs and butts," which is pretty pathetic, to put it mildly. (I mean, sure, there are a few bands like that I actually like, so I'll look past it if it isn't totally degrading... though I still think they're idiots. 🤣)

The cover is tied to Björk because it's her band, and they made a choice to go with the "sexy" vibe; nobody held them at gunpoint to do it. By your logic, if you shoved this disgusting cover in front of the Scorpions, they could just claim they have nothing to do with it since the band members aren't on it. 🤷I don't think that would fly...

Anyway... You think Björk is great, I wasn't impressed (again), and that's that. It's not the end of the world. 😉
Lisa Davis46 said:It’s actually pretty interesting, though. In some of her interviews, she was pointing directly at that specific genre. You see it all the time in Norwegian Black metal—all that explicit stuff about slaughtering women, vampires, violence, and blood. It’s just totally normalized there, like it's some standard, easy-to-digest trope.

Look, I don't mean to be a jerk, but this sounds exactly like something straight out of The Council Voice. If you aren't into a certain genre, then whatever—just say you don't get it and leave it at that. Simple as. 😉

Honestly, the real magic happens in death metal. If you're looking for where the true soul of the genre lies... well, it's right there.

I honestly can't see how anyone wouldn't find some kind of pure satisfaction in it. Everything about it—from that raw energy it packs and just how much it hits you, down to the lyrics and finally that core message—it’s all just there. It's impossible not to feel it.

Death metal Music inspires joy not violence. Seriously. People act like listening to heavy stuff turns you into some kind of monster, but they couldn't be more wrong. It’s actually therapeutic. Honestly, it's pure joy.

Look, this is just one recent study, but honestly, there are plenty of others out there reaching pretty much the same conclusions. Plus, if you actually look at the scene, it’s not some black-and-white issue. Some of the most respected figures in the whole genre are women, and you've got entire all-female death metal bands that have basically achieved cult status. Even Morbid Angel—one of the absolute heavyweights—actually started out with a female vocalist. So yeah, it's way more nuanced than people make it out to be.

It feels super aggressive on the surface, right? But once you actually listen to the lyrics, the whole vibe shifts. It’s a totally different tone than what you usually hear. Whereas When you go to a lot of Norwegian Black metal or rock music, everything is just about dominance—being "strong," killing women, rape, all that dark stuff. Honestly, I found it pretty refreshing to find something this intense that isn't just about stepping on someone else to feel big.

Those Norwegian fans didn't fall for her whole breast obsession, so now they're just talking nonsense. I honestly don't know what kind of Norwegian black metal bands she’s been listening to... probably zero, because if she actually knew anything, she would've realized this:

Natassja, my beautiful satanic witch,
There's just this raw, undeniable power sitting right there in your eyes and deep within yourself. It's real.
Worked for The noble in man.
Pass the bottle, pass the knife.
Lay your unholy crafts on me.
I’m never gonna forget you. Seriously, you're the absolute best.
of All There is , i lick Your cold lips , i embrace Your coffin as i sigh in woe
of All There is , i lick Your cold lips , i embrace Your coffin as i sigh in woe


Enslaving eyes of a wistful darkness Calls me as a silent prayer She is The One of nocturnal beauty Force me to become Her slava ili with eyes of lightning , raven Black hair She was a beauty She came here to Rul US All with Her cruelty i Admir Her beauty , and The madness that She brings Singing in awe Hail

Enslaving eyes of a wistful darkness Calls me as a silent prayer She is The One of nocturnal beauty Force me to become Her slava ili with eyes of lightning , raven Black hair She was a beauty She came here to Rul US All with Her cruelty i Admir Her beauty , and The madness that She brings Singing in awe Hail
Enslaving eyes of a wistful darkness Calls me as a silent prayer She is The One of nocturnal beauty Force me to become Her slava ili with eyes of lightning , raven Black hair She was a beauty She came here to Rul US All with Her cruelty i Admir Her beauty , and The madness that She brings Singing in awe Hail
Enslaving eyes of a wistful darkness Calls me as a silent prayer She is The One of nocturnal beauty Force me to become Her slava ili with eyes of lightning , raven Black hair She was a beauty She came here to Rul US All with Her cruelty i Admir Her beauty , and The madness that She brings Singing in awe Hail
Enslaving eyes of a wistful darkness Calls me as a silent prayer She is The One of nocturnal beauty Force me to become Her slava ili with eyes of lightning , raven Black hair She was a beauty She came here to Rul US All with Her cruelty i Admir Her beauty , and The madness that She brings Singing in awe Hail


Enslaving eyes of a wistful darkness Calls me as a silent prayer She is The One of nocturnal beauty Force me to become Her slava ili with eyes of lightning , raven Black hair She was a beauty She came here to Rul US All with Her cruelty i Admir Her beauty , and The madness that She brings Singing in awe Hail

Enslaving eyes of a wistful darkness Calls me as a silent prayer She is The One of nocturnal beauty Force me to become Her slava ili with eyes of lightning , raven Black hair She was a beauty She came here to Rul US All with Her cruelty i Admir Her beauty , and The madness that She brings Singing in awe Hail
She was such a stunner.

Enslaving eyes of a wistful darkness Calls me as a silent prayer She is The One of nocturnal beauty Force me to become Her slava ili with eyes of lightning , raven Black hair She was a beauty She came here to Rul US All with Her cruelty i Admir Her beauty , and The madness that She brings Singing in awe Hail
Enslaving eyes of a wistful darkness Calls me as a silent prayer She is The One of nocturnal beauty Force me to become Her slava ili with eyes of lightning , raven Black hair She was a beauty She came here to Rul US All with Her cruelty i Admir Her beauty , and The madness that She brings Singing in awe Hail

I admire her beauty, and the madness that she brings.
Enslaving eyes of a wistful darkness Calls me as a silent prayer She is The One of nocturnal beauty Force me to become Her slava ili with eyes of lightning , raven Black hair She was a beauty She came here to Rul US All with Her cruelty i Admir Her beauty , and The madness that She brings Singing in awe Hail
Enslaving eyes of a wistful darkness Calls me as a silent prayer She is The One of nocturnal beauty Force me to become Her slava ili with eyes of lightning , raven Black hair She was a beauty She came here to Rul US All with Her cruelty i Admir Her beauty , and The madness that She brings Singing in awe Hail
Hail to the new witch on the block.


Enslaving eyes of a wistful darkness Calls me as a silent prayer She is The One of nocturnal beauty Force me to become Her slava ili with eyes of lightning , raven Black hair She was a beauty She came here to Rul US All with Her cruelty i Admir Her beauty , and The madness that She brings Singing in awe Hail

My Old English witch with that freezing look.
She, whose desire bends to my will.
Our mark of pure darkness shone bright during those epic rides.
Over those rolling hills where the Old English spirit just lives on.


So, maybe people prefer witches over housewives or whatever, but hey, it is what it is... Honestly, I think the only other person who ever poured out that kind of obsessive love for witches was probably Michelet.

Look, I get why the album isn't hitting for you, but honestly? It feels like you've had a thing against Björk for a while now, just for some reason.

It’s nothing personal against her, I just can't stand anything that feels overly precious.

on her album, she offers this soft, gentle, and delicate response to what blood is actually supposed to represent.

To me, the whole thing just sounds cheap and vulgar, y'know?

That's my two cents...
I can't be bothered to slog through the whole liner notes, so I'm not sure if it mentions that Björk used to be the singer for that band Shellyz Raven—you know, the one with that single album that always pops up in those "dumbest/WTF album covers" threads or posts asking "what the hell are these people thinking?" The reason is (nakedness). Her lyrics are just as "deep": I am crying, and there are no tears... I am bleeding, and there is no blood... I am dying, and there is no death...

After her whole fallout with the metal scene, it looks like she moved to those parts of the world where vampires, period cramps, and peel-off masks are considered intriguing, maybe even avant-garde, who knows…
Just out of pure curiosity, I went back to listen to the album, thinking it might actually be fun, and I wasn't disappointed; I haven't read such a massive pile of nonsense that Björk so emphatically shat out in a long time. When you're someone who deals with monthly torture and barely being able to walk from the pain since you started your period—plus I even lost a job because I literally couldn't function—Björk didn't move me one bit. It's like Cinderella doesn't live in 21st-century America, but more like, I don't know, ancient Persia, where she's expected to just sit in a hole dug in the ground while her period lasts.

While reading the lyrics, I was reminded of Stendhal when he mocks German writers, and I think it perfectly captures Björk's pretentiousness:

"They don't write because they are tormented by some ideas regarding a certain subject, but because they believe they have discovered a subject about which, with sufficient effort and necessary research, something great can be invented; to this end, they read and reflect. In the end, they usually arrive at some strange and paradoxical realization. With this, a brilliant work is created; now they only need to establish it with the full artillery of their erudition and transcendent philosophy."

As for the music, there's not much to say. It's boring, predictable, and all this agitation on the third 🤦 just makes it trash
Poetry in Music / Top-tier Lyrics in Music ·
So, Ulver actually dropped a whole album inspired by Blake's stuff (specifically Themes from William Blake's The Marriage of Heaven and Hell).

A Song of Liberty Plates 25-27

1. The eternal female groan'd! It was heard all over the earth.
2. The American coastline is sick silent; the Midwest meadows faint!
3. Shadows of prophecy shiver along by the lakes and the rivers and mutter across the ocean: America, rend down thy dungeon;
4. Golden Spain burst the barriers of old Rome;
5. Cast thy keys, O Rome, into the deep falling, even to eternity down falling,
6. And weep [and bow thy reverend locks.]
7. In her trembling hands she took the new born terror, howling;
8. On those infinite mountains of light, now barr'd out by the Atlantic sea, the new born fire stood before the starry king!
9. Flag'd with grey brow'd snows and thunderous visages, the jealous wings wav'd over the deep.
10. The speary hand burned aloft, unbuckled was the shield; forth went the hand of jealousy among the flaming hair, and hurl'd the new born wonder thro' the starry night.
11. The fire, the fire is falling!
12. Look up! Look up! O citizen of New York, enlarge thy countenance: O Jew. Leave counting gold! Return to thy oil and wine. O African! Black African! (Go, winged thought, widen his forehead)
13. The fiery limbs, the flaming hair, shot like the sinking sun into the western sea.
14. Wak'd from his eternal sleep, the hoary element roaring fled away;
15. Down rush'd, beating his wings in vain, the jealous king; his grey brow'd councellors, thunderous warriors, curl'd veterans, among helms, and shields, and chariots, horses, elephants: banners, castles, slings, and rocks.
16. Falling, rushing, ruining! Buried in the ruins, on Urthona's dens;
17. All night beneath the ruins, then, their sullen flames faded, emerge round the gloomy king.
18. With thunder and fire, leading his starry hosts thro' the waste wilderness, he promulgates his ten commands, glancing his beamy eyelids over the deep in dark dismay,
19. Where the son of fire in his eastern cloud, while the morning plumes her golden breast,
20. Spurning the clouds written with curses, stamps the stony law to dust, loosing the eternal horses from the dens of night, crying: empire is no more! And now the lion & wolf shall cease.

Let the priests of the raven of dawn, no longer in deadly black with hoarse note curse the sons of joy. Nor his accepted brethren, whom, tyrant, he calls free: lay the bound or build the roof. Nor pale religious letchery call the virginity that wishes but acts not! For every thing that lives is holy.

Ulver (feat. Fenriz, Ihsahn and Samoth) - A Song of Liberty, Plates 25-27
Poetry in Music / Top-tier Lyrics in Music ·
Ghost Formula

God-given sunset red
Spinning through the evening right by the windowsill
Down on the valley floor
Grass beaded with rain
Just a soft, still, heavy breath
The empty gullet of the river mouth
A memory running in reverse
Kind of like cursive script
Diamond tears
Vanishing into the backyard gardens
I remember back when I was just a kid
Something felt off

Under some old picket fence
This dark, senseless labyrinth
A mess of unformed sounds and letters
Dripping onto the ground
Like bugs crawling out of my own head
The light just hit different back then
Like a thought could actually dream on its own

And during those long afternoons
We’d all just shed our skin
And set sail for Neptune
Using nothing but our own flesh for a sail

The sound of spinning wheels in the heat
Summer is the most deceptive city there is
That pain you think is gonna save you
That gain you think you'll hold onto forever

I'm just molding ghosts out of clay
Trying to scare my past away

Code - Ghost Formula
Best music to pair with drinks? in Music ·
Wagner 👍 especially Siegfrieds Tod once you realize you're walking home from the bar on foot...
Now Playing in Music ·
Paradise Lost - True Belief
Now Playing in Music ·
pop will Eat Itself - Wise up

Man, I am just bored out of my mind today...
Cynic in Music ·
What even is this... 48 years old. Absolutely brutal.
Nickname change (read first post!) in Forum Help! ·
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Nickname change (read first post!) in Forum Help! ·
Can I change my handle to Kenneth Price6?

Sure thing. Just send a message to Nick about this post.
Concert Announcements - Archive in Music ·
If anyone’s looking for some inspo, here’s what’s on my radar today and tomorrow: Lil Nas X, Doja Cat, Pips, Chips & Videoclips, Jack Harlow, High5, Cubies, Mary May, Porto Morto, Green Day, Krankshvester. Entry is free, too. It's all going down at that old converted military barracks out near Denver.

Pine fest

They could've definitely paid a bit more 🙄 but whatever
Do you guys actually buy music? in Music ·
I'm buying.
Most of the bands I'm into aren't exactly household names here in the States, though I guess they're obscure everywhere else too. Anyway, here are a few of my random favorites:

Miranda Sex Garden—these British madrigalists I stumbled upon during the credits of some crazy horror flick I watched just because Godflesh was in it. The track is called Cut and you can't find it on YouTube, so here’s a Spotify link if that helps, along with the YouTube version of Peep Show.

MSG - Fairytales of Slavery

Miranda Sex Garden - Peep Show

Lars Pedersen, this legendary experimental guy from Norway, works with two different outfits:

Holy Toy, featuring an immigrant from Poland, Andrej Nebb, who sings in Polish quite a bit.

Holy Toy - Marmur

Holy Toy - When

When—which is mostly just Pedersen's solo project.

When - The Valley of the Dead

This eerie collage is celebrating its 30th anniversary. It's actually inspired by that horror novel The Valley of the Dead by Andre Bjerke (aka Bernhard Borge).

One of those acts I came across while traveling through Canada—Shyam. For their first album, Željo daleč stran, they actually picked up a Zlateg Petelin (think of it like a local Grammy or something) for best rock album. Really solid music, great vocals, and the lyrics especially hit hard.

Shyam - Trenje
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testing things out