Posts by ruggedhawk20

George Ramos15 said:I’m calling foul because it’s honestly hilarious. We’re celebrating Jim Clark now, yet everyone was so incredibly critical of Ayrton Senna back then. Isn't it funny? That kind of hypocrisy is just ridiculous...🤷

I'm literally just pointing out the hypocrisy here—it's not that deep.

ruggedhawk20 said:You’re just being dense because you don't get it—simple as that. You stared at the screen, saw the guy in third crossing first, and decided to come here and cry about it. Listen, thousands of people watching the race twenty years ago knew exactly why the leader was technically third—it was crystal clear—but since a few thousand people today are just as clueless as you, Bernie decided to play hero and simplify things for the masses, even if it meant screwing over the leader.

That’s exactly my point—F1 races used to be these niche little events that only a tiny handful of people actually cared about. For every fan watching, there were like a hundred others who didn't give a damn.

Look, I don't follow football—I have no clue who Arsenal is, how they ended up named after some coach, or what a corner even is... whatever. All I know is it’s basically 22 guys chasing one ball while only two wear gloves, and everyone else just wears cleats. Also, a 0-0 tie is mind-numbingly boring. So, if someone actually fixed the game for me—like, making the goals the full width of the field, killing off the offside rule, and getting rid of goalies entirely just to stop those zero-score snoozefests—what would a "real" fan think? Would they actually have a point if they told me to go jump in Lake Tahoe?

I’ve been obsessed with F1 since back when it was actually just a rulebook for building cars—not this circus we have now. Back before Google existed, before all the cheating, and before the constant drama—it actually made sense. If you started on pole, you won. Simple. You were the fastest in qualifying, so obviously, you were the fastest on race day—and if you're the fastest, nobody's passing you. It was common sense, period.

Then the Disney crowd showed up and decided the race was "boring." Those are the people who ruined my sport—I didn't change theirs, because honestly, I never even bothered to change their sport—since their version was boring to begin with, just like mine was to them from day one. Truth is, I never even noticed their sport existed, and I still don't.

It’s all just a mindset thing—honestly. If I don't like something, I just stop watching; if they don't like it, they go ahead and change it. Some people call that progress, others call it aggression—it’s a total gray area. Look, I’m not claiming I’m right, I’m just saying you and I aren't cut from the same cloth. You like one thing, I like another. You’ll probably call me a bully, and I might just call you some stuck-up, old-fashioned dinosaur whose time has passed. Maybe. Who knows?

Maybe my era is over—and yeah, it is. Was it better? Who knows. If F1 looked like this back then, I probably wouldn't have even noticed—actually, I’m pretty sure I wouldn't have given it a second thought.

I’m watching F1 today mostly because it reminds me of a sport I actually used to give a damn about—back when it was fun. One of my favorite things about following Formula 1 was being seen as a total weirdo for staring at cars driving in circles—and honestly? I loved that little bit of eccentricity. But nowadays, if you watch F1, you aren't some oddball anymore—you're just one of the masses—and that's where all the soul goes to die.

Then you get one of those days—totally polar opposite to how things used to be—where it actually hits you just how much the world has shifted. You’ve got two drivers, basically neck-and-neck in terms of talent and trophies, yet they trigger completely different vibes today. One guy practically breaks the internet, while the other is mostly just a niche topic for the die-hards.

and honestly, in the context of F1, they're basically the same guy

Two identical drivers—and they trigger two completely opposite reactions from these internet trolls today. It’s hilarious because neither side actually watched the damn thing. Not one person. One crowd is probably watching because their uncle told them to, and the other is trying to watch via their grandpa’s dial-up connection.

Look, I’ve got nothing against Senna—really—but I couldn't stand seeing Google basically make him the face of F1 back in March. It's just not right. Not for the sport, and definitely not for the other drivers. Sure, he’s easily top 20 all-time—right up there with Clark, Schumacher, and about seventeen others depending on who you ask—but he shouldn't be the guy synonymous with the entire series. He’s got some serious baggage, let's be real. That day? Total injustice.

George Ramos15 said:Amen

Go ahead and say "amen" all you want—it doesn't change the fact that Jason Campbell70 is just throwing out red herrings to distract from how badly he and his little protégé darkmarlin16 have embarrassed themselves on this forum.

Someone asked a simple question about a specific date, and instead of answering, Jason Campbell70’s buddy here plays dumb and asks what they're even talking about. Then—get this—he claims he’s watched the documentary about the guy in the question maybe two or three times.

I gotta hand it to Jason Campbell70 for the sheer dedication and creativity he's using to try and scrub the stain off his buddy's reputation, but honestly? It's not working.

darkmarlin16 said:What exactly are you trying to get at here?
Are you implying he should've just kicked the bucket today or something?

You should've spoken up when you were actually asked—but you didn't. Those are exactly the kind of questions I warned would expose the frauds in this group. Clearly, even twelve hours later, you're still clueless. Honestly, it's no surprise you couldn't wrap your head around how third place can be first.

George Ramos15 said:I’m not sure how old you are, but the reality is that F1 became a truly global phenomenon back in the 80s. Even if you've followed the sport since day one, you're essentially comparing a niche hobby enjoyed by a small group to the massive spectacle it is today. It's all pretty relative when you ask what "real" F1 actually looks like. Think about soccer—it started on some muddy fields in England, played by people far away from cameras, TV crews, or journalists. Basketball, tennis, volleyball—it's the same story for almost any sport. If you look at racing itself, even in its early days (around 1910, though it goes back further), it had a following and was quite popular compared to the early years of soccer. During the golden era of the 1930s, Grand Prix races could draw upwards of 300,000 spectators, which isn't exactly a "niche" crowd for that time. So, is the idea that this is just a "sport for weirdos" really accurate? As far as I know, many of the rules—which have shifted constantly since the beginning—involved bans, removals, and new regulations. At its core, F1 is just a set of organized rules designed to let engineers build the best possible car and hand it over to the best driver to see if they can take the win. That is the essence of F1: constant changes (even if I don't always love them) and new challenges for the most brilliant engineers and elite drivers on the planet. The car has always mattered; drivers alone never won championships. They could close a gap or make a difference, but they couldn't win without a competitive machine. There have always been plenty of talented drivers. The goal is for the competitors to adapt and thrive under new conditions. Sure, things like KERS or DRS might feel artificial, but back in the 80s, they had boost buttons and nobody complained. Rules change; sometimes only certain races counted toward the standings, sometimes fastest laps earned points, and at other times, there wasn't even a constructors' title. We've seen bans on all-wheel drive, six-wheelers, and ground effect—it's similar to recent technical changes or various types of assistance. That's the beauty of F1: the variety of rules, drivers, teams, winners, and champions. It's about constantly stepping into the unknown and, of course, racing. I don't think that old rule regarding letting cars through is really tied to modern complications, because the fact remains that F1 is much more complex today than it was in the 60s or 80s. When you look here, you realize that teams have always tried to level the playing field (going back to the 50s!) to make the competition more unpredictable and exciting, which leads to higher viewership and more overtaking. It just looks a lot less "natural" these days...

I was reading that and realized—man, this guy’s just another Disney fanatic. He tries hard to act like he isn't, but it’s pretty obvious.

Anyone trying to claim KERS and DRS are the same thing is totally dismissed in my book.

I haven't criticized KERS once in any of my posts—let alone lumped it in with DRS.

DRS is just a gimmick—KERS was actual innovation. DRS isn't even in the spirit of F1 (or a Grand Prix, if you want to be fancy)—but KERS definitely was.

darkmarlin16 said:I’ve sat through that documentary at least two or three times now, and honestly? I could probably go watch it one more time 🙏

ruggedhawk20 said:Answer these questions for me

Is a race where nobody overtakes basically just a soccer match that ends 0-0?

How many overtakes actually happen in track and field?

How many goals are there in basketball?

What exactly did the world champion win—some specific race or some imaginary one that never even happened?

What even is an overtake?

Can a slower person actually pass a faster one?

If they can't, then what's the actual problem here?

Isn't it a total logical paradox—having the faster guy stuck behind the slower one, only for the slow guy to pull ahead?

And isn't it also a paradox that two different drivers could technically "win" the same imaginary race?

Doesn't the guy doing the passing look worse than the one being passed, just because he let himself get put in a position where he had to pass in the first place?

How many drivers ever overtook Amanda Kelly?

What's today's date—and why does anyone even care?

darkmarlin16 said:What kind of questions even are these? 🤣

So you're telling me it makes sense for everyone to just line up at the same time after a red flag, ignoring all the gaps and advantages built up during the race? Like, if Driver B is sitting twenty seconds behind Driver A, he could totally wreck Driver A's entire race by slamming into him, and honestly, twenty seconds is a massive gap to just ignore in this absolute circus.

It’s way more logical to just have them restart in their actual order, keeping those time gaps intact from when the race was halted, so we actually have a legitimate running order on the track.

There is absolutely no way the first option is more logical or fairer than the second.

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dustycyclist19 said:Sure, the fans play a huge part, but honestly, the drivers have a massive hand in all this too—you really think they’re just sitting there with zero influence on how things go down?🙄
I feel like you’re totally missing the soul of the game here, which is really what it all comes down to. As someone who spends their entire life training just for the slim chance at a championship, how can you sit there and argue that a driver won't win simply because they don't have the fastest car? That kind of logic goes against everything sports should stand for. Honestly, I think the rule changes are actually designed to stop drivers in mediocre teams from just throwing in the towel, giving them a reason to stay hopeful—kind of like that whole underdog Brawn GP story.

I’m not talking about technical regs like engine displacement, aero efficiency, or safety stuff.

I’m talking about those "entertainment" rules meant to keep the masses hooked—stuff like DRS or forcing everyone to swap both sets of tires.

Those kinds of rules are basically the equivalent of getting rid of offsides or making the football goal ten feet wide.

William Bennett53 said:I’ll toss this whole debate over to the paddock once I wrap up at the office. Why don't you guys set up a poll so we can finally settle which approach makes more sense? (I'm just skimming this on the fly, so the options aren't perfectly clear, but if I had to guess, it's a choice between: adding the previously recorded deficits, wiping those deficits entirely, or exiting the pits in single intervals based on those earlier gaps.)

Pro tip: try reading at a snail's pace instead of sprinting—quality over quantity, you know?

This isn't even about those three options. This is about the total evolution F1 has gone through, and you can see it all right here in just two pages of this thread.

There's no "bickering" happening here. It's just a total clash of worlds.

darkmarlin16 said:I mean, I totally get how that race played out, but let me be crystal clear: it was stupid. Just plain old stupid for all those same reasons I already laid out. It was dumb, it was unfair, and there's no way around it.

And honestly, the way you’re acting like everyone who disagrees with you is just living in some freaking Disneyland is ______.

You’re just being dense because you don't get it—simple as that. You stared at the screen, saw the guy in third crossing first, and decided to come here and cry about it. Listen, thousands of people watching the race twenty years ago knew exactly why the leader was technically third—it was crystal clear—but since a few thousand people today are just as clueless as you, Bernie decided to play hero and simplify things for the masses, even if it meant screwing over the leader.

That’s exactly my point—F1 races used to be these niche little events that only a tiny handful of people actually cared about. For every fan watching, there were like a hundred others who didn't give a damn.

Look, I don't follow football—I have no clue who Arsenal is, how they ended up named after some coach, or what a corner even is... whatever. All I know is it’s basically 22 guys chasing one ball while only two wear gloves, and everyone else just wears cleats. Also, a 0-0 tie is mind-numbingly boring. So, if someone actually fixed the game for me—like, making the goals the full width of the field, killing off the offside rule, and getting rid of goalies entirely just to stop those zero-score snoozefests—what would a "real" fan think? Would they actually have a point if they told me to go jump in Lake Tahoe?

I’ve been obsessed with F1 since back when it was actually just a rulebook for building cars—not this circus we have now. Back before Google existed, before all the cheating, and before the constant drama—it actually made sense. If you started on pole, you won. Simple. You were the fastest in qualifying, so obviously, you were the fastest on race day—and if you're the fastest, nobody's passing you. It was common sense, period.

Then the Disney crowd showed up and decided the race was "boring." Those are the people who ruined my sport—I didn't change theirs, because honestly, I never even bothered to change their sport—since their version was boring to begin with, just like mine was to them from day one. Truth is, I never even noticed their sport existed, and I still don't.

It’s all just a mindset thing—honestly. If I don't like something, I just stop watching; if they don't like it, they go ahead and change it. Some people call that progress, others call it aggression—it’s a total gray area. Look, I’m not claiming I’m right, I’m just saying you and I aren't cut from the same cloth. You like one thing, I like another. You’ll probably call me a bully, and I might just call you some stuck-up, old-fashioned dinosaur whose time has passed. Maybe. Who knows?

Maybe my era is over—and yeah, it is. Was it better? Who knows. If F1 looked like this back then, I probably wouldn't have even noticed—actually, I’m pretty sure I wouldn't have given it a second thought.

I’m watching F1 today mostly because it reminds me of a sport I actually used to give a damn about—back when it was fun. One of my favorite things about following Formula 1 was being seen as a total weirdo for staring at cars driving in circles—and honestly? I loved that little bit of eccentricity. But nowadays, if you watch F1, you aren't some oddball anymore—you're just one of the masses—and that's where all the soul goes to die.

Then you get one of those days—totally polar opposite to how things used to be—where it actually hits you just how much the world has shifted. You’ve got two drivers, basically neck-and-neck in terms of talent and trophies, yet they trigger completely different vibes today. One guy practically breaks the internet, while the other is mostly just a niche topic for the die-hards.

and honestly, in the context of F1, they're basically the same guy

stormybadger8 said:I don't really get why silvercobra68 thinks it’s somehow "fairer" if everyone restarts at once and we just settle the time penalties from before the delay later on...
Which, honestly, is the only "fair" thing about that nonsense, because let's be real: that scenario would be neither fair nor logical given how things actually work.

And frankly, sitting there on the grid just killing time isn't any less illogical or unfair than his idea. In fact, forcing these guys to sit around on cold tires waiting is way more unfair to everyone trailing behind.
Plus, what darkmarlin16 is suggesting is basically impossible to pull off. Who’s even going to coordinate all that? How would they even manage the lights or whatever crazy setup he’s dreaming up...
Bottom line: it’s a total utopia that just wouldn't work in the real world,😉 not to mention that nobody would be able to keep track of who jumped the start anyway...

As for adjusting times later, that's hardly groundbreaking stuff. It happens all the time nowadays when someone picks up a time penalty after a race is already over.

Nah, I'm not buying it. What silvercobra68 is getting at is that kids these days—who basically live on nothing but deep-fried junk food—expect everything handed to them on a silver platter. If it isn't served up ready-to-eat, they can't handle it—mostly because they're too lazy to actually process anything complicated. That fried junk might look great and taste decent enough—perfectly crispy, sure—but the meat inside? It’s low-grade garbage.

Look, if today’s F1 fans hadn't spent the whole time whining about one of the cleanest, most flawless races in history—and if we weren't dealing with this absolute dumpster fire of a spring season—I probably wouldn't care. But once those three things hit all at once? Yeah, I finally lost my damn mind.

Honestly, graniteharbor502 is the only one actually making sense here—props to them. 👍👍

ruggedhawk20 said:Answer these questions for me

Is a race where nobody overtakes basically just a soccer match that ends 0-0?

How many overtakes actually happen in track and field?

How many goals are there in basketball?

What exactly did the world champion win—some specific race or some imaginary one that never even happened?

What even is an overtake?

Can a slower person actually pass a faster one?

If they can't, then what's the actual problem here?

Isn't it a total logical paradox—having the faster guy stuck behind the slower one, only for the slow guy to pull ahead?

And isn't it also a paradox that two different drivers could technically "win" the same imaginary race?

Doesn't the guy doing the passing look worse than the one being passed, just because he let himself get put in a position where he had to pass in the first place?

How many drivers ever overtook Amanda Kelly?

What's today's date—and why does anyone even care?

Now everyone’s just dropping the act—and honestly? Watching them squirm is the best part.

They thought I was just rambling and talking nonsense—that my questions were totally out of left field—but every single one of them actually has a solid answer. graniteharbor502 nailed the last one, though. Respect.

Everyone else can just go to Disneyland—honestly.

darkmarlin16 said:I'm dead certain that 90% of the people on this forum think what I just laid out is way more logical, way fairer, and just plain better than the nonsense you're pushing.

And they're right.

The way you want things done is just like DRS in Formula 1—you can only use it in specific spots under very specific conditions, which is just straight-up stupid.

Just hit me up in a DM if you're too terrified of the censors to say it here.

Look, darkmarlin16—I’m not scared of anyone or anything. I gave my word to the mods that I wouldn't disrespect the users—and honestly, that's a whole different ballgame than just being afraid of something.

You’re the one who's scared—period. You're terrified of me and, honestly, even more terrified of my questions since you can't actually answer them. It’s pretty simple, really—you can't answer a question if you don't even get what it means.

You basically crowned yourself—I didn't even need to type a single word. I kept my word and laid it all out, even if you're sitting there acting like I said absolutely nothing.

darkmarlin16, censorship basically did you a favor there. It’s the same damn censorship you’re whining about almost every single day.

Thanks, darkmarlin16—and let’s use the subforum's official terminology here—for spending this holy day trashing one of the greatest F1 races ever run and basically exposing the biggest fraud in this entire community.

I don't know if you even realize—your exact way of thinking is the reason we're stuck with DRS, mandatory two-compound tire changes, and all that other nonsense.

You guys should've just sent everyone to Disneyland years ago. Too late now. 😍 instead, you went and turned F1 into a freaking theme park.

darkmarlin16 said:What kind of questions even are these? 🤣

So you're telling me it makes sense for everyone to just line up at the same time after a red flag, ignoring all the gaps and advantages built up during the race? Like, if Driver B is sitting twenty seconds behind Driver A, he could totally wreck Driver A's entire race by slamming into him, and honestly, twenty seconds is a massive gap to just ignore in this absolute circus.

It’s way more logical to just have them restart in their actual order, keeping those time gaps intact from when the race was halted, so we actually have a legitimate running order on the track.

There is absolutely no way the first option is more logical or fairer than the second.

They're the kind of questions that—to put it in terms this forum can actually grasp—expose all the scams going on...

Answer these questions for me

Is a race where nobody overtakes basically just a soccer match that ends 0-0?

How many overtakes actually happen in track and field?

How many goals are there in basketball?

What exactly did the world champion win—some specific race or some imaginary one that never even happened?

What even is an overtake?

Can a slower person actually pass a faster one?

If they can't, then what's the actual problem here?

Isn't it a total logical paradox—having the faster guy stuck behind the slower one, only for the slow guy to pull ahead?

And isn't it also a paradox that two different drivers could technically "win" the same imaginary race?

Doesn't the guy doing the passing look worse than the one being passed, just because he let himself get put in a position where he had to pass in the first place?

How many drivers ever overtook Amanda Kelly?

What's today's date—and why does anyone even care?

Anyone who thinks third place is actually first just basically crowned themselves king of nothing.

Look, I didn't label anyone anything. I just pointed out exactly who brought all that dirty drama into F1 in the first place.

It’s the same mess that’s driving the people responsible absolutely crazy right now.

But again—I haven't called anyone names, let alone a moron.

If some people feel targeted by my general observations, well, that's on them, not me.

There was this one driver once who said, "I'll let you pass, but you better prove you're actually faster"—and honestly, that's the whole damn point.

F1 isn't the NFL; we don't need touchdowns. Overtaking isn't a scoring play.

darkmarlin16 said:I’m sitting here rewatching the '94 Japanese GP.

Honestly, even the geniuses running things today couldn't dream up something this ridiculous.

So the race gets red-flagged, right? But once they get things moving again, they start calculating all those gaps from the moment the flag actually dropped, which is just wild. 🙏 🤦

Then you see Hill pulling out of the pits behind Alesi and Mansell, even though he was actually leading them on track before the chaos.🙏

And then Mansell breezes past Alesi, yet somehow he's still trailing him by five seconds? Makes zero sense. 🙏

The rulebook 🙏
is a total joke.

You’re clearly still pretty green—honestly, it was just standard practice for almost 50 years. They didn't even start making a distinction between trail order and official order until the late 90s.

Before that—after every single restart—it would always recalculate everything just to make sure nobody got screwed over.

That's what I call clean racing—pure class.

Look, you kids just don't get it—honestly. It’s your fault we’re stuck with all this modern nonsense anyway, since you didn't understand a damn thing to begin with.

neonfox65 said:See? That’s what having a decent car actually looks like. It wasn't stuck anywhere!

What do you mean "anywhere"?😕 I saw him right in front of Fernando Alonso—the whole damn race.

Richard Walker38 said:Whatever. One Red Bull is basically a lock for the next race—unless the engine blows up or someone decides to play bumper cars with them, then I guess we'll see...

is this that whole thing about the neighbor's cow?

silentbadger17 said:Man, I wish this race had started earlier.
It was honestly such a boring, sterile mess—haven't seen anything that dull in ages.
Kudos to Hamilton, though—absolute masterclass driving in a top-tier car, just cruised from the green light straight to the checkered flag.
Not even gonna touch the Rosberg situation because that whole thing feels totally off to me.
Vettel drove a solid race, with Ricciardo basically playing bodyguard for him.
Alonso being Alonso—solid drive, nothing crazy. Sadly, Ferkan looks just like last year—lagging behind Mecama by at least half a second, and if you ask me, they aren't even winning on the turns anymore.
Hulk is a killer driver stuck in an average car; such a shame he didn't land a real seat (the red 😁)

🤷

Facts. Boring and clinical. Honestly, all I care about is that Vettel finished ahead of Alonso again—that's the only reason I'm even watching F1.

The only reason I'm here is so I can talk trash to all you arrogant jerks with my "expert" takes.