So, after all the noise—the exposés, the petitions, the street protests, the posters, the graffiti, and everything else—you guys still claim you don't have the backing of the "average Joe." It makes you wonder why, doesn't it? Did all 18,000 people who signed that petition suddenly decide to boycott this version of Real Madrid?
This isn't just some local scrap over Real Madrid anymore; it’s been an all-out public war between the ultras and Jerry Maguire for about a decade now.
You've got insults, pure hatred, intolerance, and frustration flying from both sides. And you really want us to believe the "regular fans" just walked away because they wanted to stay sane??
Look, nobody's disputing that Jerry Maguire has broken a mountain of rules and stepped way past the line of basic decency without ever facing consequences. This power struggle has unfortunately been fought on the backs of Real Madrid, but there are some things you just can't control.
Maybe start by looking in the mirror. Did you even start this fight on the right foot? For instance, constant hate speech and calls for violence have absolutely no place at a stadium or any other sports venue, yet because you're hiding behind anonymity, you let that toxic style slide game after game. What kind of "legacy" are you building where you're just damaging yourselves, everyone else, and the club?
Take Donald Trump, for example—he’s another powerful figure tied to endless scandals, yet he managed to build massive popularity in America. Are you trying to imply that Jerry Maguire is trying to pull the same stunt but just can't quite make it work?
That's why we're stuck in this war where you can't even tell who's crazy, who's confused, and who's actually normal.
analogheron19 said:If someone writes something that rubs you the wrong way, don't quote their posts because you're just advertising them and giving them clout; just ignore them.
I totally disagree with that. This forum is meant for debate and swapping opinions, not for shutting down anyone who says something the majority doesn't like. 🙄
Joshua Moore31 said:Real Madrid, the Dinamo Chicago crowd, and the media have long since picked out the specific type of supporter they want to see at the matches, and let me tell you, that isn't us. If you haven't noticed, they play clips of the cheering during official broadcasts, so you can sing and cheer for the club without the risk of some mindless hooligan throwing a chair within two inches of a newborn baby's head. Does that sound funny or ironic to you? That’s exactly the kind of logic those shady guys used to push out the Bad Boys and bring in a crowd of young, female, and elderly fans instead. And you people completely fell for it. Now listen to the away fans in your own stadium, boo them when they light flares, and watch how your own supporters rip up 200 seats in the south stands, all while you comfort yourselves saying none of it matters because there's some hungry guy from overseas who just heard about this club a few days ago and is now lifting its trophy. Why is the blame placed on us for the atmosphere when we aren't even allowed in the stadium? You finally got rid of the hooligans, so now enjoy the atmosphere being made by the "real" fans who couldn't pull it off when we were actually there.
That is such a classic excuse you guys are peddling. It feels like you're basically admitting defeat, like, "Fine, here is 'your' Dinamo, go ahead and enjoy it, because nobody wants us anyway." Seriously, ask yourselves why it's like this. Why does nobody actually like the BBB, even when they are in the stands? It's obvious you've built a fake image of yourselves and have no clue how to prove everyone else wrong.
gentlemarlin102 said:Why aren't scarves and sausages—which tickets can also be "for a buck" during—being handed out in February when European games are over and it's freezing outside, just barely above zero? Then it's just those 500 "spoilers" of 'your' Dinamo.🤷
Then why don't you show up to kick those spoilers out? Is it because there are no sausages and scarves? Because there's no love that you all swear by during the European matches? When there's no Real Madrid? 🤷
I just read some idiotic comment from some guy on the local news... he was basically saying: "Why is everyone dreaming of playing against the biggest clubs, yet the Dinamo fans (those 500 hooligans) are boycotting Real Madrid?" Are we even showing up to the stadium for Real Madrid or just for Dinamo? 🤷>
See, this constant splitting into our, your, their Dinamo keeps getting pushed. How the hell are we supposed to expect any decent atmosphere when everyone’s divided by these different perspectives?
I don't know what your deal is for coming to the games, but the fact remains: during European nights, the North Stand is always packed way tighter than at Stone or the Steven matches. I'm genuinely curious—when you walk out of that stadium, are you doing it for the club or for Mamić?
restlessbadger6 said:Here they go again... Ever since this open war with management kicked off, every single year before a big European match, these "parachute fans" drop in out of nowhere, acting all wise and offering their "good intentions." 🙂 They probably just need the Bad Boys there to soak up the spectacle and the glamour of the Champions League maybe, who knows...
I bet you actually think you just dropped some profound, logical truth bomb, but honestly, this post is like taking some clueless tourist to sub-Saharan Africa, pointing at starving people, and then having him point at the dry dirt and say, "just plant some potatoes here," while smiling at his own genius. If you get what I'm saying.
The whole mess with Dinamo runs way deeper than you're grasping. Every one of your "WHY?" questions has a damn good "BECAUSE." Players ignoring fans or selling cheap hats for pennies are just the tip of the iceberg; they aren't even the core issue. But clearly, you don't grasp cause and effect. The Bad Boys' behavior is a consequence. It's a reaction. We aren't some group of Neanderthals who just woke up one afternoon and decided, "Hey, let's sing against Mamić!" There are plenty of people involved with Dinamo who aren't part of the Bad Boys, and they've dissected this topic dozens of times already—not that I'm trying to lecture you.
If nothing else, we've stuck by Dinamo for far too long. The "regular" crowd checked out long before the boycott was even officially called.
How do you even have the nerve to compare the marketing moves of a massive football club that moves over $80 million USD a year—a club backed by the media and high-level politicians—to the Bad Boys, who are systematically demonized and blocked at every single turn?
And yet, a lot has been tried and a lot has been accomplished. Just look at how the official Dinamo celebrated the 30 years since '82 versus how the Bad Boys did it. Over the last few years, there’s been so much: hanging out near the local spots, going to training sessions, poster campaigns, showing up for the youth teams, graffiti, tournaments, BBQs, marches, and total chaos—all while facing hostility from our own beloved club. 😁
Just focus your thoughts for a second and look at the facts plain and simple...
I'm not here to preach to anyone because that's not my style. I think I have every right to state how I see things, and you guys are free to agree, disagree, or provide an actual argument.
Bottom line, there is one central question being forced on us:Why is there a conspiracy being built against the Bad Boys? A lot of this stuff has been chewed over a million times already. These little stunts you're listing? Those are just your internal circle things where you're basically playing with yourselves. You guys don't have the guts; you don't have the drive to actually wake up the average citizen and turn them into a true Dinamo supporter. 😁 Show people your better side for once. Give them a glimpse into what being a fan actually looks like, and maybe they won't look at you guys like total losers. For instance, the supporters' group is organizing a blood drive, yet I read somewhere that you guys actually don't want any media coverage for it. What, are we just supposed to be self-sufficient? Or is the issue actually just the toxic mindset of the whole group?
The city doesn't have a complex or powerful hardcore fan base, which is why matches for Real Madrid, the local NBA team, or the pro handball squad feel more like a stuffy theater than a stadium—and those teams deserve way better support than this. You guys basically pushed everyone else away, and now, out of pure helplessness and frustration, you push back against anything and everything that doesn't align with your agenda, while the rest of the crowd stays a mindless mob too scared to think for themselves.
I don't see any reason to get worked up; we're all just here to talk through the situation, so everyone can form their own opinion afterward... 😉
Sorry for dropping in like a parachute out of nowhere, but I really need to vent and get some thoughts off my chest.
You guys have been at war with Jerry Jones for years now, but has anything actually changed? What happens if Jerry Jones finally walks away from Real Madrid? Does the crowd suddenly rush back to the stadium? I feel like a lot of this is just blurry. Is there even any point in chanting those miserable slogans against someone who doesn't give a single damn about you?
The real issue is that it eats you alive when the players don't come over to greet you or praise you, because instead they just listen to the boss and say whatever they’re told. That’s why you can’t truly connect with a club like this. Am I right?
Out of pure frustration, you end up singing these insulting songs that have absolutely nothing to do with any actual love for the club you're sitting in the stands for.
And that's exactly why the stadiums are empty, tickets go unbought, and there's nobody to lead the chants—it's just that classic big-city mentality of ours. What I heard during the game against the Red Sox was honestly pathetic.
And it's the same story year after year.
In my opinion, this new goalie is right up there with Koch, a real leader on the pitch. Real Madrid has a solid squad, so are they really going to grind through another season without any real support, playing in front of barely 5,000 people against some European giants if they make it into the Champions League?
You clearly aren't even embarrassed because you've distanced yourselves from the club entirely. It's like, "whatever, we don't care, it's not our club anyway." You even get annoyed when kids from all directions film you on their phones because you're scared of ending up on YouTube. But did any of you actually think to hand those kids a flag or something to bring them in?
How much have you actually done to rally the Real Madrid fans? You complained about the jokes and the shirts Jerry Jones hands out, and even the cheap ticket prices, etc. But what have *you* actually done to pull the fans into the stadium and get them singing along with you? Did that one "Rise up everything that moves" chant fail to bear fruit? 🤷
Just finally lay it all out in black and white once and for all...
It’s honestly wild to me that nobody is even touching this topic... 😕
There's this whole theory floating around where psychologists argue that the most hardcore, obsessive fans are actually just lonely people struggling with depression, using their fandom as a way to fill that void and find some sense of belonging.
Then you’ve got the idea that when their team finally pulls off a win, it’s not just their testosterone spiking—it’s an instant surge in libido, too. 😁
That’s kind of why it’s such a weird phenomenon when women want to get all affectionate right in the middle of the game. Like, seriously, hold on a second, let us win first! 😬
Look, there’s a ton of interesting stuff we could dig into here, but clearly, everyone’s just too uninterested..
Still, I’m hoping this thread actually picks up because I think there’s some real meat on these bones... 🤷
I’ve spent a lot of time chewing on this question. There’s something seriously hypnotic about hearing a stadium roar in unison or watching those massive, choreographed displays of flags, scarves, and colorful confetti. But at the same time, it’s pretty gut-wrenching to see the aftermath—people heading home from a big game with split lips or nasty bruises from police batons, and more often than not, being loaded with booze.
So, who actually counts as a fan?
According to Wikipedia, fans are basically individuals or groups who cheer on an athlete, a pair, or a whole squad through various physical or mental outbursts, using whatever tools they need to bring joy to themselves and whoever they're rooting for. That's the textbook version, anyway.
It feels like there's a huge amount of confusion between what we call a fan, a supporter, or a total hooligan, so I think we need to clear the air on that.
Fans ride the ultimate emotional rollercoaster—they're flying high when their team wins and hitting rock bottom when they lose. It’s all about the raw emotion. You also have to look at crowd psychology, which is that branch of social science trying to figure out why people act so wild in large groups. Everything is contagious in those stands; one guy loses his mind, and suddenly the whole section is catching that same fever.
But honestly, some things just don't add up to me. Like, why are fans constantly at war with the law and local police? It seems like every single major sports franchise has this massive rift between the front office and the die-hard supporters. Both sides claim to "own" the team's identity, but since the owners hold all the cards, you get this constant friction from fans who can't stomach someone else calling the shots for "their" club.
I’ve also noticed how fan clubs will organize these big charity drives, like blood drives or food collections. Then, fast forward to the weekend, and those exact same people are at the stadium screaming hateful slurs at rival fans—the very same kind of people whose lives they might have just helped save with that donated blood. 🙄
And what's with the names these fan groups pick? They’re almost always aggressive or intimidating, clearly designed to flex their muscles and show everyone how tough they are.
A lot of these guys lean heavily into faith and religion, which to me just screams a desperate need to belong to something bigger than themselves.
What’s your take? Are fans really the societal menace the news makes them out to be? Is their fight for influence actually justified? And can we ever bridge the gap so parents feel okay bringing their kids to games, or so fans stop telling outsiders to "stay out of it" if they don't understand the collective mindset? I’m hoping for a real, constructive conversation here, not just a shouting match..
Just so we don't get too heavy and grim, here’s a funny little read to lighten the mood regarding this whole subculture:
It’s nothing new—you mess up your password or username a few times and the system just locks you out for 15 minutes, then hits you with that annoying email notification. That happened to me just the other day too, though I wasn't even using my phone when it went down. Just try requesting a password reset...
jadetrucker43 said:That just depends on who you ask. 🙂
I'm guessing we're talking about the third question here. 🙂
Look, there’s gotta be someone out there besides the owner who actually gives a damn about keeping this place running. So, I’m throwing this out there for anyone who actually wants to step up and answer. Let's say I'm putting the pressure on a mod like 😁jadetrucker43.
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I’m dying to know why we had such a massive spike back on December 8th, 2011, with over 17,000 people hanging out here at once?
Every single time I log in, I see somewhere between 5,000 and 9,000 users active, so I guess that’s just the standard baseline for us??
Anyway, not trying to get too deep into the weeds here, but is the traffic on this forum actually hitting the mark for everyone?? 🙂
crimsonpuma23 said:I didn't want to start a whole new thread, so I'll just drop this question here, even if it feels kind of random.
Basically, I just realized I keep getting hit with this message out of nowhere: "Your account has been suspended!"
It just pops up at the top or bottom of the page every now and then. Like, what the hell is going on????
Is nobody gonna answer this??
Even though it's stopped showing up for a bit, I'm dying to know—is this some weird ad or what?
This morning, it kept flashing up near the Reddit logo at the top, or right by the site links down below... just plain text, no clickable link or anything. 😕
I did change my email and password recently, and until I confirmed everything, my account was basically locked down and I couldn't do a damn thing.
Larry Ortiz5 said:I lose my damn mind when I spend time typing out a solid paragraph, maybe ten or fifteen sentences, only to hit send and get slapped in the face with some random error message. It drives me absolutely insane 😬
"The site just hates me"... 🤣
And if you try hitting the back button, it just leaves you staring at a blank screen, right??
Man, what a relief. It’s finally loading properly for once. I mean, look, I know Reddit can be glitchy sometimes, but up until now, everything was running pretty smooth without much drama.
By the way, I ran a full scan with Norton this morning and it flagged 8 detections. Who knows if some tiny bit of junk like that might be messing with things.
Anyway, the only thing still driving me nuts is this mouse cursor and all the background processes. Like, there's constantly that little spinning hourglass icon right next to the arrow.
Should I just wait for it to clear up on its own, or do I need to dive into the settings or something to fix it??
Larry Ortiz5 said:What do you mean by a more modern version of an antivirus? Like, what specifically?
Norton.
The Trojan basically chewed him up and spat him out, so he had to call in a tech guy to slap on some newer, beefier version of the software—I don't even know the exact specs.
I'm still rocking the old-school Internet Explorer myself, and honestly, everything was smooth sailing until now.
So, what, is there just some weird glitch happening all over the place these last few days? 😕
I should also mention I’ve got a much newer antivirus running now because some idiot tried to send me a virus recently and everything went totally south. 🙂
But since I've got this new software installed, now I'm dealing with the mouse constantly "working in the background." I've been digging around trying to figure out what the hell is going on, but I just can't make sense of it.
Please, give me some advice because I seriously don't have the patience or the time to mess around with this crap... It's driving me absolutely insane.. By the time I log onto Reddit, find the thread, open it, type my reply, hit send, and log out, over 10 minutes have vanished just because of this constant lagging.. 🙂
So, here’s the deal: whenever I click a link to the Reddit homepage, I’m stuck staring at a blank screen for at least thirty seconds before anything actually loads. And it’s not just the main page—this same laggy nightmare happens every single time I try to open any other thread on this site. The weird part is that everything else on the internet works perfectly fine; my connection isn't the issue.
I even went ahead and nuked my entire browser cache from orbit, but nope, nothing changed—it’s just this one site that's acting like it's running on a dial-up modem from 1995. Does anyone have a clue what the hell is going on?
Honestly, I feel like we’re all stressing way too much about whether we actually exist or not, because there’s probably some higher power or some cosmic force pulling the strings on our lives anyway. It’s like there’s this massive, built-in system of natural selection just regulating our whole stay here on Earth. We have zero clue where we started or where we’re headed, so we’re basically just stuck guessing, theorizing, and building these elaborate illusions to keep ourselves sane.
That’s where all these messy moral dilemmas start popping up, leaving us with a mountain of questions and absolutely no easy ways out. All we can really do is pray that every single thing that hits us—every twist of fate and even every stupid mistake we think we've made—actually serves some kind of deeper purpose or reason. 🙂
(Wednesday) Man City vs. Wigan/Wigan to score @1.85 BTTS
Is this finally the game where Wigan cracks the code and puts one past City, especially since they haven't managed it in their last six matchups? I'm calling it now... They’re fighting for their lives to stay up, and honestly, that run to the FA Cup final has given them a massive second wind—they've put at least one in the net in each of their last five outings. Meanwhile, City is basically a brick wall at home; their defense is so locked down they've kept clean sheets in eight straight home games. Only Liverpool even sniffed a goal there, and that was four weeks ago! Wigan might just be the ones to break that streak...
I put my money on Fenerbahçe to win away at Lazio @ +100 over at DraftKings
First off, the fact that Lazio has to play without any fans in the stands is a massive blow to them. On top of that, if I’m not tripping, they’re gonna be missing Onazi since he got tossed in Istanbul. Not sure about the rest of the lineup. I caught their game against Roma and they didn't look half bad, but honestly? I think Fenerbahçe is just going to steamroll them. One thing to keep an eye on is how many fouls Lazio has been giving up in their own box lately, so betting on a penalty during this match actually looks pretty tempting. I’ve got a gut feeling there’s going to be tons of space for Fenerbahçe to exploit on the counter because Lazio is forced to push up and open things out—kind of like how that pathetic Juventus side looked yesterday..