Posts by Kyle Campbell4

Elizabeth Mendoza said:I’m just sitting here waiting, but I honestly don't see an end in sight. They've been pushing this absolute deluge of superhero movies at us for 13 years now. It's just endless. You get a hundred different versions of Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, and the Avengers, and then they just cram every single franchise imaginable into one screen. Suddenly you've got the Guardians of the Galaxy, Spider-Man, Batman, Superman, and Iron Man all sprinting past you, and to top it off, you've still got Wolverine, Magneto, and dozens of X-Men characters thrown in there too. Not to mention the constant stream of reboots and prequels.

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That is a disgraceful post. Truly disgraceful.

I bet you're absolutely thrilled that Iron Man is dead. And how wonderful it is that Captain America is just some old man who decided to settle down for a normal life with his beloved. Don't worry, you won't have to watch them anymore. As for that damn Thanos, honestly, it brings me nothing but joy that they finally took him out.

This isn't about some cinematic embellishment; we are talking strictly about historical reality. You can argue whatever you like, but the fact remains that the Mongols themselves eventually transitioned to Buddhism, Islam, and even small pockets of Hinduism.

Regarding Alexander. Even today, there is an ongoing debate over whether he was truly bisexual or if that label was simply weaponized by his enemies, surviving through the centuries as nothing more than a persistent myth. Furthermore, the concept of homosexuality in Ancient Greece wasn't anything like what we recognize in America today. In my view, it leaned much closer to pedophilia. How else can one characterize an adult man taking a minor boy under his wing and becoming his patron? It goes beyond merely teaching him life lessons or basic skills.

In certain respects, they were surprisingly liberal, which is truly baffling when you consider their typical nature. For instance, they maintained that faith was strictly a matter of individual choice, believing anyone should be free to worship whichever deity they preferred. Their only true animosity was reserved for Muslims and Jews; otherwise, they permitted total religious freedom. They were even open to adopting children from other backgrounds, likely because building a massive lineage was considered a vital component of one's social standing. Consequently, they kept many wives, each focused solely on producing heirs. It is quite bizarre to see how these modern-day Mongols have become so docile and peace-loving.

Jessica Gonzalez said:It’s true though, you really seem to know your stuff. From what I understand about his history, Genghis Khan's life was incredibly tough; he was basically an outcast abandoned in the wilderness, barely surviving. He even ended up as a slave at one point. Even so, he rose to lead his tribe, unified the Mongols, and conquered what felt like the entire world for those clans at the time. But since they were mostly focused on conquest rather than building lasting civilizations, his successors pretty quickly squandered the reputation that he and his sons worked so hard to build.

The empire lasted roughly 150 years, which isn't a short run considering its massive scale. Given its sheer enormity, it was bound to fracture eventually. And let’s call them what they were: barbarians. They turned out that way because life on the steppes was brutal and everyone lived in absolute poverty. They were ruthless toward one another, showing no mercy. Later, once they encountered and integrated with the cultures of China, India, and other ancient kingdoms, they softened up a bit. But that initial wave led by Temujin was pure, unadulterated brutality. When Temujin went to avenge his father, who had been poisoned by a rival tribe, he wiped that entire group off the face of the earth. The whole tribe was slaughtered as if they had never existed. While campaigning through China, they were even known to use catapults to hurl plague-infected corpses 🤣 into enemy territory; there were very few psychotic lunatics like that in all of history.

Someone mentioned how they grew to despise Rome because of what was done to Carthage. How could they possibly resist looting and razing it when they had a fanatic like Cato the Elder right there in their own ranks? What a complete lunatic he was 🤣
Every single time he stepped foot into the Senate, he would show up carrying both Roman and Carthaginian olives. He’d parade them around, insisting to everyone that the Carthaginian ones were larger and more delicious. Then, he would spend hours suffocating his audience with anti-Carthage rhetoric, always concluding his speeches with that exact same line: "In short, I believe Carthage must be destroyed." Given that, how could the Senate not lose its temper and vote to wipe Carthage off the map forever? In truth, Carthage destroyed itself during the Second Punic War. That was the moment where they could have completely altered the entire course of Western civilization.

It appears I am certainly not alone in my lifelong admiration for the Japanese in ski jumping. As a young boy, I would religiously tune in to the New Year's 4 Trampoline, the Olympics, and absolutely any broadcast that featured jumping events. My allegiance was always firmly with the Japanese team. I fell in love with their technique; their school of jumping is unparalleled. The wide stance of the skis combined with a body lean so extreme it almost aligns perfectly with the equipment creates a breathtaking sight. Watching them glide through the air is mesmerizing. In those few seconds of flight, you truly feel immortal, soaring through the sky like a bird.

Regarding the discussion on military commanders, my personal favorite has always been Alexander the Great. He possessed a stern countenance and the mind of a true visionary. It is a tragedy that he could not have achieved even greater feats had he not been cut down by illness.
However, if we are being strictly realistic, the greatest commander in human history was Tughril. He engineered a combat machine that was nothing short of fascinating. It took him twenty years of relentless effort to conquer and unify the various tribes, but once they began their expansion, they essentially flattened everything in their path. They operated with an unprecedented level of terror and brutality. To kill 40 million people in an era defined by swords, spears, and bows is a staggering concept. If you were to hand that Golden Horde modern firearms, there likely wouldn't be a single non-Mongol left alive, lol. There is something profoundly intense about the legend of how they terrified the Persians, utilizing psychological warfare to systematically dismantle them. They would lay siege to a city and, while doing so, construct pyramids out of human skulls. You find yourself fighting while paralyzed by sheer dread because you have never encountered such psychotic lunatics in your life.

Jesse Sullivan5 said:Is Wayne Gretzky still the GOAT? Or has Sidney Crosby actually surpassed him?

Kyle Campbell4 says this:

Soccer—Maradona
Basketball—MJ23
Racing—Senna
Hockey—Gretzky
Water Polo—just a random sport without any true icons
Handball—just a random sport without any true icons

There are plenty of elite, world-class athletes who belong in the absolute upper echelon of their respective sports. However, a true icon can only be one or perhaps two people at most. I have listed the specific individuals who represent icons to me—the greatest of the great. If I were forced to choose just one single name above all others, it would undoubtedly be MJ23.

dustyviper8 said:That's true—the NBA was built on hatred and real rivalries. You can still see it today; look at how Isiah still can't stand Jordan, or how Lambier talks trash about the Bulls thirty years later just because he hates them.

The reason I think LeBron James will still be a topic of debate 30 years from now is simply because of the world we live in. Everything is instant—every piece of info, every game—and since LeBron has been the most popular basketball player for years, and the marketing is hyped to the moon, it compensates for the lack of old-school rivalries. I seriously doubt his legacy will fade once he retires.

Honestly, modern sports has gone to hell. I miss the hatred and the real rivalries.

It honestly saddens me that you aren't older, someone who actually lived through the golden age of the NBA. Those were magnificent times. We would wake up early for every single game being broadcasted on our networks. Kids today just don't grasp how massive basketball really was. It felt like there was high-stakes action every single day. And Michael Jordan? He was an absolute god. Every single one of us kids was obsessed with him. We all tried to mimic his style. No one has ever even come close to approaching his level. It is difficult to convey the sheer madness that surrounded Jordan. When he stepped away, the passion for the game slowly began to drain out. But if you had been alive back then, my God, what games we saw! Gritty, physical defense with constant contact, endless arguments, and actual fights. You had rivalries that bordered on blood feuds: New York vs Miami, Orlando vs Miami, Reggie Miller vs Michael Jordan, and the Pistons vs the Bulls. You had the wild Charles Barkley constantly picking fights with everyone. That is just a quick rundown from memory, but there was so much more. It was a crazy, beautiful era of the NBA. Over time, money and political correctness have destroyed everything, turning it into something plastic. Nowadays, people just watch to place bets, and that is really it.

Tyler Jackson56 said:It wouldn’t be an issue if you—the same guy who played those kids up outside the stadium and then went crying to the newspapers looking for witnesses and whatever else—actually had any shred of fan honor left. Where is that supporter's integrity? Where is the respect when, after you laid into those kids, you turned around and sued them for thousands of dollars in emotional distress? Is that what you call fan honor?! There hasn't been a lick of honor left in our scene for a long time, but you are the absolute last person who should even attempt to comment on this subject. If you had even an ounce of dignity left, you wouldn't even dare show your face in the stands or pretend to be a supporter ever again after what happened. Goodbye.

Your hatred for the group and its members has gone so far that you are publicly defending sellouts and spreading their lies regarding Henry Grant51. Well, at least now we know exactly where your loyalties lie, and it's highly likely you're one of them. It must be hard watching the North Stand packed with fans while you aren't even allowed to set foot in there, isn't it? 😁

Scott Smith93 said:😁 I am standing firm with the other user on this forum, one whom I personally deleted fifteen minutes after posting, and no, it wasn't because of Tom.

Furthermore, we must leave the younger generation alone to cheer; when the chaos within this group first erupted ten or fifteen years ago, the kids who currently run things were literally children, and many weren't even born yet by the time Mamić took control of the club. Forcing today's fans to carry the burden of sectarian disputes from within the group, or dragging them into the private and public feuds of various factions from a decade ago, is nothing short of a crime against the group and against the people currently sitting in the stands. Yet, this is precisely what keeps happening.

Keep one thing in mind—even when Mamić eventually leaves Real Madrid entirely, which he will sooner or later, the people who held this group together ten years ago aren't coming back to the stands because their time has simply passed. That is just how it works. I can give you endless examples of people who have zero interest in the supporter lifestyle anymore, despite having set all of Europe ablaze during the golden age of this group.

I will merely react to this once and then I shall cease posting on this thread. If you desire further discussion, you may move it to private messages.

You were slow to delete your post because there were those who managed to read what was written 😁. It is strikingly similar to what you wrote in your previous two posts. The most potent part is your comment regarding bowed heads and admitting defeat.
Following your logic, the kids from the late 90s should have just given a damn about restoring our reputation, since they were merely stepping into a fight started by those older than them. It is total nonsense. If someone identifies with the group and the Bad Boys name, regardless of their age or how many years they have been active, they share what is known as a collective consciousness. And the collective consciousness of this group is built upon a steadfast anti-ZM narrative and the realization of the evil at play. This is something passed down from generation to generation, and as the last manifesto states, there will be no compromise until these criminals are kicked out of the club. This is not like your suggestion, where the whole matter should simply be swept into the dustbin of history via a change in generations in the stands. As for the part about "sectarianism," it does not even require a comment. It is perfectly clear from your posts exactly where you stand. Regards.

Robert Cooper60 said:...listen to this guy, demanding we kick out Madoff
so why didn't you guys get rid of him sooner? We’re busy celebrating championships while you lot just whine about how the mafia is destroying you

He isn't some idiot.

Tom keeps trying to erase him, but the man is relentless. Every single post follows the exact same pattern: an admission of defeat with his head bowed, claiming Madoff will leave on his own and until then, we should support the club and the players, followed by those half-veiled threats that certain groups won't show up unless the kids are left alone to go out and cheer. This bolded section really brings back memories of the old days; it's exactly how one very well-known faction used to talk. I see the years passing by, and soon it will be decades, yet in their minds, everything remains stuck in the past. If someone screws you over once, they are going to screw you over again. And anyone lacking the intelligence and wisdom to realize that is doomed to repeat history. Scott Smith93, you'd have better luck finding a key in a lock than standing under the same umbrella with your crowd again.

Orator said:Go ahead and start your own Federal Assembly (a Clean Federal Assembly, modeled after the HČSP) and just stop harassing us.

Exactly right!

Let’s go ahead and start our own Dinamo. You all can just stick together with Rozica and follow GNK. It is absolutely infuriating that things have deteriorated to the point where people are being mockingly told to "start their own club," echoing the exact kind of condescending rhetoric used by those hateful extremists in the past.
The individual commenting above this kid claims that those boycotting won't be missed because new generations will take their place. It would be wonderful if that process didn't simultaneously involve bringing back the same old rotten apples—I believe they were referred to as such after they stabbed everyone in the back. I suppose this is their reward. Apparently, a love for certain tactical combinations matters more than anything else. Tom, if you believe this post is going to spark further arguments and fighting, feel free to delete it. However, one simply cannot sit by in peace and read such absolute garbage, which mirrors the mocking taunts once thrown around by those hateful agitators. Honestly, it might be best to just lock this thread so we can at least maintain a shred of dignity for the public eye.

Paul Sanchez15 said:Yet another prime example of how the seasoned veterans provide essential guidance when solving complex issues.

Just wait until the momentum shifts toward one side; once that happens, everyone will inevitably align with the winning faction.

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Austin Chase2 said:I see absolutely no connection between 2006 and America, but fine. I refuse to be bothered by any manufactured hype. It is frankly pathetic that we live in an era where kids are more interested in rooting for Barca or Real just because of the internet. What truly troubles me is how much people obsess over this club when, quite literally, 99 percent of Chicago couldn't care less about Dinamo. They don't hate it, they don't love it; they are simply indifferent. Right now, interest in Dinamo is on par with KK Cedevita.

Fine, I will clarify when necessary. I could theoretically manufacture ten more insiders from within the club ranks, put forty-four PR agencies on the payroll, and still achieve nothing. I might even be able to mislead a small group of people. However, the public is not foolish; people can sense when something is fundamentally wrong. That is precisely why there is such a massive resistance toward a club like this. Don't bother looking for a connection. During the 2005/2006 season, the hype was so pervasive that even at Zeljeznicar, everyone knew it was going to be a legendary season. A similar surge of excitement will occur once the corporate types are ousted and this becomes a club of the people. I am not suggesting the stadium will be packed instantly, but there will be an initial momentum and a buzz surrounding the whole project that will attract both old fans and newcomers. From there, the responsibility falls on us to build the narrative and grow our numbers every single season. That is the theory. In practice, however, we will likely deal with bitter glares, internal infighting, accusations about who showed up, petty bickering, and all that nonsense—and we will inevitably ruin the whole thing ourselves. We shall see.

Five years after everything collapsed in America, you were sitting on 20 million at some local firm like ExxonMobil and another 25 thousand over at Varteks. Once this club actually starts acting like a real organization again, the recovery process will kick in, bringing everyone back into the fold: the die-hards, the casuals, the rebels, the skeptics, and all those different types of fans. Or is the real issue that there’s just zero hype surrounding a club like this?

holloworca10 said:Look, I don't want to piss off the Chicago crowd, but seeing that level of hatred coming from the stands on the way to the Rose Bowl always gets my blood pumping.😁

That goal by Vide against Ludogorec didn't move the needle for me; back then, I actually believed a bad result might finally force Mamic out. Now, it’s painfully obvious to everyone that no scoreline in the world is ever going to get him removed from this club.

So, you’ve essentially surrendered to the status quo and started celebrating GNK instead. It’s no longer about Mamic’s cronies or his agency; now, you claim it’s about Dinamo. People weren't protesting at Royal or Maks because they thought conceding a goal would somehow purge the establishment; they were protesting because this garbage club has become a monument to privilege, corruption, and the private interests of a criminal entity. If you had been posting this stuff five years ago, the group of people who attacked 19_86 would have branded you a Mamic loyalist immediately. But the constant brainwashing from certain media outlets, sites like Dinamo Insider, and the rhetoric spread by Mamic supporters across the city has taken its toll. The most radical voices have mostly drifted away. What’s left are the moderates—those who have felt uncomfortable from the start with protesting the club, insulting players, or being overly negative while failing to show enough positivity or support for the team. They've been reinforced by new generations who have only ever known this version of the club. To outsiders, you look weak, corrupt, hypocritical, and two-faced. Those other fans don't understand how we reached this point of division between what I call the "extremists" and the "moderates." Over the years, the former lost their influence and strength, while the latter gained ground until they eventually took control. Those who were walking the streets five years ago saying we needed to find a compromise with Mamic finally got their moment when they tried to pressure the leadership for a change in direction. It was precisely this lack of unity that doomed everything from the very beginning. 19_86 needs to accept that the conversations we had five years ago are dead. Public outbursts like this serve no purpose for anyone except the enemies reading this and enjoying our internal collapse. Just let today's generation do things their way.

Henry Hayes4 said:Look, let’s just cut out the whining for a second. Just because we can’t stand the current management or if we’re totally fed up with the players, that doesn't mean we don't love the Cleveland Cavaliers. And it certainly doesn't mean we have any love lost for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It works both ways: if we aren't exactly jumping for joy at a Cleveland goal, then we should at least take some satisfaction in seeing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers concede one. Honestly, the whole situation is completely schizophrenic; if you don't see that, just try to tap into those raw emotions you feel when the national team plays. If you hate the USSF and can't stand the roster, it still doesn't mean you don't love America. For instance, if we were scheduled to play Austria tomorrow, you'd be incredibly invested, but if we were playing Mexico, would you actually be celebrating their goals?
It’s all part of the fan culture, much like the old rivalry between American and Yugoslav clubs. But the reality is...:-)

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nimblemoose2 said:From 1988 through 2005, we saw the peak activity, specifically during that intense stretch from the mid-90s stretching right into the early 2000s.

Man, what are you even talking about? Have you ever heard of a generational shift? For crying out loud, you can't have Nesta and Maldini carrying Milan forever; everything has its peak and its limits. I’d love to see what today's generation is capable of when they actually reach my age. Even now, they struggle just to make it to a local game, let alone travel for away matches. Seriously, back in my day, we used to pull three or four-day trips just for an away game.

I don't really have any business getting involved since I'm not exactly an active fan, but seeing everything being written here, I just had to chime in. 😁

Look, my friend, people from your generation were the very first ones to sell their souls to the establishment. They’ve pivoted from one corporate overlord to the next, moving seamlessly from local conglomerates to giants like Heinz. At the very first sign of trouble, they turned their backs on both the club and the group just to align themselves with the higher-ups. Now, you see them every single day on social media, dying of "love" for the club and the crew, sporting profile pictures covered in group motifs and those signature sticks alongside that unmistakable number 86. The fact that they actively fought against the number 86 doesn't even phase them anymore; as long as they can shout and drink, they couldn't care less about their past hypocrisy. Honestly, whenever I see those status updates where they claim to be "defending the city," I can't help but feel a sense of pure shame. The only time they actually bother defending anything is when they're sitting around a table, tearing into a plate of veal.
Let us not overlook the instances of gunfire directed at civilians or the tactical breaches where officers stormed Bubbles' quarters with batons drawn. It was precisely during these moments that people your age were the very first to sell out, standing there and confidently asserting that absolutely nothing wrong was happening.

Let's keep this momentum going.

Are you dissatisfied with today's generation of kids? Fine, I am actually quite pleased about it. Today's youth haven't built up this delusional mythos about being the premier gang in all of Europe, acting as if the entire continent trembles because we are "unstoppable" (I can't even remember the lyrics to that moronic song) or maintaining those dark, intimidating stares that everyone supposedly shrinks from. They haven't inherited the various adolescent nonsense we fed ourselves for years without any actual foundation. Back in our day, the peak was smashing things up in small towns across the Midwest, long before we were ever facing off against elite squads. Those high-stakes confrontations only happened later, once the group was already under massive, invisible repression specifically designed to wipe out the Bad Boys name. The group, full of itself, went looking for a fight with the establishment because they expected that struggle to unify everyone. Honestly, the first people to screw us over were the ones currently peddling demagoguery to these kids, claiming the group was at its absolute zenith while they were leading it. What they conveniently omit is that back then, the leader was a regular fixture at local bars, blowing cash left and right. But we always knew they would screw us over and jump ship to their sponsors. However, nobody accounted for the big leader’s obsession with profit. He became far too greedy and, along with a small circle of associates, stabbed the rest of us in the back. Consequently, year after year, those who constantly flattered themselves by claiming to be the top gang in Europe and "unstoppable" slowly retreated into their holes or abandoned the whole movement entirely. When things got rough, they vanished. Only a few, very few, remained. Those dark, intimidating stares suddenly turned into soft, timid looks. In their place came these kids of today. And now, there is this expectation that these kids will be miracle workers capable of fixing and rectifying the sins of the older generations. It is expected that they should be brawling on the streets with garbage collectors who are twenty years older than them; they are expected to drive away the heavy hitters despite having zero support; they are apparently the ones to blame because the city has become soft. Let me correct that statement: it isn't the city that's soft, it's the mentality. There is a weak mindset where people will fall to their knees if it guarantees them personal gain, and they have an interest in sucking up to anyone—even the boss himself—as long as he has the money, regardless of how he gets it. It doesn't matter; the kids are expected to do everything themselves without any help, otherwise they are considered weaklings and cowards, unworthy of the old veterans. And those veterans are the exact same people who crawled into their holes the moment things got difficult. I especially love this mantra about the "good old days"—those "good old days" when the group functioned like a typical agency.

I was one of the first people to get cut from this group, and honestly, seeing today’s generation of kids jumping around and celebrating goals after everything we endured over these last seven years doesn't bring me any joy. It actually makes me feel quite heavy-hearted. However, I have no intention of hurling insults at them. Nor do I expect them to become the most fanatic generation in this group's history. My only hope is that they never reach a point where they find it in their hearts to forgive that small circle of scumbags. It actually amuses me to read all the posts lately about how they are begging for forgiveness and seeking amnesty. These kids today have their own path to walk, and those of us from the older generations have nothing to lecture them about. The most vital thing is that they continue to build this community on healthy foundations, free from the influence of those lowlifes who are willing to sell out or turn this whole thing into an agency again. And if possible, let's ensure we don't end up talking about the "top gang in Europe" or those "unstoppables"—that adolescent nonsense that suffered a total defeat when it actually mattered during the real fight against the Chetniks.

Bryan Adams6 said:Vujović is basically auditioning for the spotlight... yet they keep bringing up names like Lino Cervar and Slavko Goluža 🍿

It isn’t just that he’s putting himself out there; major networks like ESPN and Fox Sports are actively pushing him into the limelight. To be honest, I am rooting for his failure too. It’s not because I think he’s some tactical genius who can elevate a mediocre roster to the next level—it's actually quite the opposite. I want to see him hit a wall in the semifinals or even earlier, just so that entire illusion of "Vujo the Magician" that the media manufactured and the public swallowed whole finally collapses. Let the man fail spectacularly so that the very people hailing him now have to deal with the consequences of their own hype. People desperately need to understand that there are hard limits to what anyone can achieve, regardless of how much talent they possess. At a certain point, a coach is simply powerless, whether his name is Cervar, Goluža, Babić, or Vujović.