redowl90 said:Nowhere yet, until I made this post:
Most American movies—regardless of genre—outclass most European (or any other) films by lightyears when it comes to quality and all the metrics used to judge them.
Europeans will never be able to produce films like The Matrix or die hard 4. They are too preoccupied with being pretentious and self-indulgent, making movies solely for the sake of "art." They make those types of films meant for various festivals that indie crowds love to obsess over. But a movie isn't JUST art—it's much more than that. Americans get that, Europeans don't, while Asians seem to sit somewhere in the middle.
Apologies for the tangent, but what kind of scale are we actually talking about here? 🤔
Juno isn't exactly a masterpiece. Plan 9, however, remains a total classic. Those who trash our beloved American way of life are nothing more than cowards.
reddriver17 said:Your sarcasm is incredibly well-disguised! 😁
I’m not compiling a definitive list here... I shared it now because you aren't the first person to claim that indie films are garbage. I figured perhaps some people simply don't grasp what "indie" actually means, so I wanted to provide some representative examples. My intention isn't to curate a massive catalog; it's just that it is significantly harder to stay quiet when a genuinely great indie film comes along compared to when a massive blockbuster drops. You follow me?
All I want are recommendations for quality cinema that doesn't rely on heavy marketing or star-studded casts where famous actors suddenly pretend to be in love just for the role—or movies where someone spends more time obsessing over the lace on a dress than the plot... do you see my point?
Check out Doorman and Amarcord; those are the first ones that come to mind for me. 😉 edit: I wasn't suggesting that making such a list is foolish, rather I was referring to the individual from the link you provided. People claim indie films suck because the term has been stripped of its actual meaning; nowadays, it doesn't signify an independent production, but rather fluff like > and similar nonsense. And it's not just about movies; even today, you see > being marketed as the ultimate indie band, if you catch my drift...
First off, I never actually said that, and secondly, I’ve been messing with you the whole time 😉 . To be perfectly serious, I find the idea of compiling a list of films based solely on the fact that they weren't produced in Hollywood studios to be rather absurd. Honestly, what could >, >, and > possibly have in common besides that one technicality? It seems as though someone simply invents a trendy new label for such collections just to create an entirely new category. That explains the sarcasm in my initial post 😉 .
I honestly cannot recall the last time I sat through a movie as vacuous as Transformers. It might have passed for a mindless, high-octane popcorn flick if it actually managed to be entertaining, but it simply fails to deliver even basic amusement. 🙄 There is that particular sequence where the small radio robot treks across the airfield toward the police cruiser, skulking behind pedestrians while emitting those ridiculous noises; it was so profoundly idiotic that I felt a genuine sense of secondhand embarrassment. I suspect the only demographic capable of finding humor in such nonsense would be some brainless twelve-year-old American kid. 🤷 That said, I will concede that Hrid is decent enough, and The Island is certainly superior to Armageddon. 😬
A true cinematic legend. I’ve probably seen this one at least 30 times now, and I can only pray they don't completely butcher it with some unnecessary sequel...
Carol Lewis said:Christian Bale plays this role with such a hauntingly perfect darkness, especially when he's all thin and gaunt, just moving so slow... almost like he's self-destructing... I don't know, the whole movie was pretty heavy for me, really gets inside your head... but, hey, that's just how I roll...
Carol Lewis said:I honestly feel like Machinist could be listed right there in the dictionary as the literal definition of the word "morbid"... I mean, anyone who’s actually been paying attention knows exactly what I’m getting at... you really could say he's morbid in every possible sense of the term...
The sequence where Bed Guy hides behind a counter, preventing Clive from landing a shot, is truly absurd. He ends up shooting his companion instead, who collapses to the floor, only for him to fire again at the man's hand—which happens to be pointing right back at the idiot hiding behind the counter. Then, he shoots the companion's hand yet again, causing a reflexive shot to go off toward the guy behind the counter. It’s absolutely mind-blowing, truly unprecedented filmmaking. 😁