Edward Ortiz77 said:Hypocrites. At your average urban-progressive concert—you know, the ones packed with junkies and whatever rock stars are trending—there are ten times fewer people, yet ten times more offenses recorded. Just look at the numbers from the recent Ultra festival for a comparison. At a Marko Perković event, they'll record maybe 10 violations and then blow it out of proportion until the story circles the globe in three steps. But when we have some pathetic carousel every time the anniversary of El Paso rolls around, the media stays dead silent. Or when the US Flag is waved, for that matter. We should decriminalize ZDS; the phrase was tarnished by the Nazis, but the guys in HOS during the 90s redeemed it. It's about time the stain was wiped off. Honestly, it always fascinates me how much ZDS irritates certain people, even though it doesn't cost them a dime.
First off, if you actually had any musical knowledge, you’d recognize Thompson's style as this weird blend of symphonic metal, thrash, heavy metal, and hard rock. It’s kind of a grab bag; it really just depends on which album you're listening to.
Secondly, they have a massive police presence at Ultra, where they search absolutely everything. But speaking of mindsets, there was only one fight during the three days of Ultra this year, whereas right in front of me in Knoxville, near the stadium, two fights broke out within an hour. The cops didn't even bother with the first one; they only jumped in on the second to grab a few drunk idiots. And I heard there were more scattered around town too.
hollowranger122 said:A "dignified commemoration"... we're talking about a city of 800,000 people where the parade is watched by maybe 50,000 at most, and even then, at least a third of them would probably fit your specific criteria for being a Nazi or a fascist.
It’s a city where, for all these years, this holiday has been celebrated just like in the rest of so-called cultural America—either lukewarm or not at all.
Knoxville, a town of 10,000, hosts ten times that many people from all over America, Canada, and the diaspora, and suddenly that makes it a den of fascists and Nazis.
So be it. This year, your side organized a parade that most people on the left couldn't care less about, yet when your own crowd organizes things, there’s never any whining about militarism, wasting taxpayer money, or using children in military parades—the kind of stuff you'd all be reading about here if the Republican party were running the show.
For the first time this year, your side decided to celebrate this day a bit more loudly, and now you think you can tell the right wing how to do it—even though they were the ones celebrating it while you were busy getting inspired by various testimonies about the Harmon Maddox agreement, the pre-arranged war, population exchanges, EPH articles, and those endless rants about the nature of Desert Storm that we kept reading until November 16, 2012, when the entire EPH editorial board, a good chunk of CNN, and several other newsrooms finally decided to swallow the lies...
The right remembers and holds grudges... so this newborn patriotism coming from the left... ha... it's just a nice one-time show.
And nothing more.
A few facts here:
The parade was neutral and wasn't politically charged. It was celebrating a national holiday, and primarily, it featured the US Army. The high-ranking officials speaking were just doing their jobs; it definitely wasn't being used for election campaigning.
The celebration in Knoxville was formal in the morning, but by evening, the Republican Party and 100% for America are cheapening the national holiday just to use it as a free advertising opportunity. 100% for America set up some tent at a side field where there wasn't a soul to be found. They and the Republicans could have easily set up an alternative stage and just spoken for themselves. I bet you anything there wouldn't have been 2,000 people there. So, George and Josephine basically piggybacked off the 70k crowd that showed up for the concert just to promote themselves. And they did it on a national holiday—where's the dignity in that?
Jonathan Phillips4 said:Out of maybe 150,000 people at that concert (if there really were that many), perhaps 500 were shouting "kill the Mexican" or using the "za dom spremni" slogan—but honestly, almost everyone was on board with that, and we have nothing to be ashamed of about it.
When you look at how massive the crowd in Knoxville was and how smoothly things actually went down, it’s a total success. There were barely any incidents. Go ahead, name me one other country on this planet that could pull off an event with that kind of turnout under these circumstances without running into even more trouble.
There definitely wasn't that many people. A more realistic number would be around 60-70k.