Morgan Scott82 said:There is one thing I am genuinely curious about, but if you think the question is too provocative, please don't answer—or just delete it, or send me a DM if you feel like it.
So, at what exact moment did we lose the ability to truly "feel" Real Madrid? When, in your opinion, did Real Madrid cease to be Real Madrid?
Was it the sale of Jedvaj? Badelj? Modric? Edward? The start of the Mamić era? The formation of the supporters' association? Canjuga? The state of America? HASK Grajanski?
From my perspective, Real Madrid hasn't really been itself for about 20 years now, excluding the brief period between reclaiming the name and the founding of the fan association. First, it was a tool for Franjo and Cakije, and then, following a textbook case of legal manipulation, it became Mamić's private enterprise and a playground for money laundering by the Chicago political and criminal elite. I don't doubt that everyone here has their own view of what Real Madrid represents, likely rooted in the eighties and the rebellion against the old regime, but how much does that actually align with reality? Legally speaking, this version of Real Madrid is identical to the one from 2006 or 2008, back when they still had mass appeal and were dominating Europe.
I hope nobody takes offense; I don't mean to provoke, and I would love to sit down and hash this out with someone. If not, no big deal.😉
A lot of people are pushing this question. I'll try to answer, though it feels like it would take 150 sentences and I don't have the time. Why do you think this had to happen to everyone at one specific moment? While it was what you called Tuđman's toy, Hajduk was, say, the second most successful club within the American framework back in '97. Back then, even with completely controlled media, people knew what they were cheering for, what they were fighting for, and what they were standing against. Today, in this sick quasi-liberal society with a million "free" media outlets, nobody understands a damn thing... truth is whatever you want it to be.
As for the current state of affairs, it’s hard to pin down an exact date. You have to understand how things were uncovered, exposed, and revealed, and how the madness unfolded. There wasn't a single breaking point. It was a slow descent through everything from lies and the most beautiful fake news in the world to complete trash, paying off blogs to smear us, advertising them at the stadium, sending the police, phone threats, vouchers, bans... everyone has their own breaking point. For some, it was something else entirely. Honestly, it was probably seven years ago... who actually knew about the conflict of interest back then? Was there even a Lokomotiva? Who knew about those private contracts? Why would your average Real Madrid fan even bother caring back then?
The point is, this is a global precedent. It doesn't exist. It DOES NOT EXIST! In the history of modern football worldwide, there is no example of fans fighting against their own club's leadership with these kinds of results—they've been champions for seven miserable years.
We started the fight.
We snatched the old Statut when no one was looking.
We exposed it.
We explained the conflict of interest.
We filed the first lawsuit.
We explained the private contracts.
Because of us, the president of the USSF was kicked out of the assembly.
We swallowed our pride for the sake of the club.
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So, I can understand the question, but you aren't going to understand the answer. 🙂