Posts by Nicholas Newman2

Jamie Howard3 said:Does anyone know what time the race starts tomorrow and which sports channel will be broadcasting it?

Thx

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copperdrifter26 said:🤦
Look, Bottas has actually beaten Lewis Hamilton five times in qualifying this season. We're talking an average gap of about 0.15s in favor of Hamilton. Meanwhile, Russell jumped into a car yesterday that wasn't even tailored to his style, and he still managed to stay within 0.026s. Honestly, you can't argue with those numbers; if Charles Leclerc or Max Verstappen were in that same car, they would have left Bottas in the dust.

To sum it up: if Bottas outclassed Lewis five times, then Lewis isn't exactly a superhuman driver, is he?🙂
The reality is that George Russell is the best of that trio.
He was looking pale as a ghost, getting into the cockpit for the first time, dealing with a tight fit and all sorts of issues.
What do you think would happen once he actually gets comfortable? Imagine what he'd do compared to Charles Leclerc or Max Verstappen.🍿

EDIT: I almost forgot to mention that Sebastian Vettel would be right up there with those speedsters too.😁

That was a bold move by Charles Leclerc and Ferrari.

Final thoughts after qualifying.
George Russell👎
Unfortunately, he’s performing below expectations. He lost out to Valtteri Bottas—it was only by a tiny fraction, but still, losing to Bottas is tough.🤦

At the end of the day, it comes down to the car. You can't expect this kind of performance from a driver sitting on the front row.

shadowmarlin22 said:That’s all there is to say about Williams. Without George Russell, there’s no party.

It looks like the party mode just vanished entirely. It's finally becoming clear—that mode wasn't really about Mercedes-Benz, it was about those British cars. It also explains why we've seen such lackluster results from someone who's been performing more like Bottas lately.☕

swifttiger75 said:I'd love to see Russell snag pole just to watch the absolute meltdown that would follow. 🎉

At one point, I honestly found myself wondering which group this was even going to turn into.
I have to say, I’m actually pretty happy seeing how Russell is performing lately.
Dust follows a fast horse. Qualifying hasn't even happened yet, and we're already on page nine of this thread.

Kenneth Cruz67 said:I suspect this is all just setting the stage, really. No matter how things actually shake out on the track, I imagine someone will inevitably try to spin the result to support whatever narrative they’ve already decided on.

I suppose if George Russell performs well, everyone will claim it's all thanks to the car. But if he struggles, then it'll be blamed entirely on him. In either scenario, it seems like Lewis Hamilton is just being viewed as a mediocre talent who happened to catch a lucky break with 😁

👍I've already mentioned that earlier in this thread.

stormybadger8 said:Honestly, I don't even have the energy to debunk this nonsense anymore...
Vettel and Alonso settled their score on the track, so you guys can just keep enjoying life through those rose-colored glasses of yours...

And why even bother arguing? It's like trying to explain to a toddler why they need to move ten feet to the left; I could spend the next twenty years explaining it, but nothing's going to change...

If I'm following the logic here:
-The cherry tree represents everyone who thinks differently.
-Voluntarily moving ten feet to the left means accepting an explanation.
-Twenty years is the timeframe where absolutely nothing changes.

It would make more sense to say:
-The tree can't be moved; Mother Nature made it that way, defying all belief.😁
-Moving left, or in any direction you want, is clearly an illusion—even to someone with bad eyesight.🤔
I mean, when has anyone actually seen a tree move, unless we're talking about Lord of the Rings?🤷
-Twenty years is the window of time during which nothing will change.

If people could just wait until Sunday, then if the results look like they did in Free Practice 1 or Free Practice 2, they can vent all they want.
Right now, this feels more like someone just grasping at straws.

wiredfalcon2 said:This season, Lewis Hamilton is the only one who actually grabbed pole after crushing Free Practice 2. Every other driver who topped the times in Free Practice 2 failed to pull it off. But here we are, already acting like George Russell has this race in the bag...

Someone in the Mecca is reading Forum HR. Beat Russell.😁

Third practice is wrapped up.
1-Verstappen
2-Bottas
3
4
5-Russell🤔

Not only that, but they act like they're huge F1 experts. When you disagree, they just try to label you as superficial.😂😂 🥱

I think it’d be fair, regardless of how Russell's Sunday turns out, if we all collectively pile on Mercedes-Benz, the FIA, and Lujo. We shouldn't hold back on Bottas either.

The guys are dealing with double trouble, but who’s really looking at the small stuff?
Just when there was a little bit of reason to celebrate, it wouldn't be right for us to go and ruin the fun.🙂

silverviper44 said:Look, let’s be real—Bottas's car isn't some influencer's vanity project; you can see the truth from any angle. This whole COVID situation just pulled back the curtain, because there's no way George Russell, who hasn't even scored a single point yet, suddenly became this fast.

whatever man

I said this a long time ago: anyone could be a champion if they were driving that Mercedes-Benz.

Bottas isn't getting the full performance of that car. I'll bet anything that Mercedes is doing this to him on purpose, and he can't say a word because he's being paid to look mediocre and keep his mouth shut.

👍They planned everything out perfectly and executed it to a T.
Oops, I just realized there was a typo in my previous post. Small stuff. An error occurred, maybe because of COVID.
He forgot to dial back the power on Lewis Hamilton's car.😵😵😵

Alex Barnes93 said:BREAKING NEWS: Reddit just dropped a massive bombshell—turns out Formula 1 is actually a constructors' championship, meaning the fastest car wins regardless of who’s behind the wheel.

More details coming your way soon...

👍The big question remains: when will everyone realize that Russell is a top-tier talent?🤔

Kenneth Cruz67 said:I guess you could say there isn't much left for him to learn here, because Russell has already spent so much time behind the wheel of this car, not to mention his previous stints driving for Mercedes-Benz and the models before that. Even during his time at Williams Racing, he was essentially chasing the same Mercedes engine performance, so I suppose there really isn't anything truly unknown to him. It probably helps quite a bit that the regulations haven't seen any major shifts over the last five or six years, either!

Back in the old days of Formula 1, I guess teams would only manage to clock about 30,000 kilometers during their testing sessions, whereas nowadays, it feels like you can wrap up a few days of testing and head straight into the season opener!

Well, it’s finally Friday, so I suppose we’ll just have to wait and see how everything unfolds during qualifying and the race itself!

Hold on. I don't want to be the one to ruin the fun.
You see how people were arguing with those canned responses on the previous pages? Now that there's actual conversation, it might carry some weight.🤦

Maybe it's symptomatic, or maybe not, but whenever Leclerc beats Vettel, this guy suddenly can't drive.🙏

stormybadger8 said:Carlos Sainz is basically on Valtteri Bottas' level...
Take that how you want.

As for Max, I don't see any comparison between him moving from STR to Red Bull Racing and some hypothetical scenario where he jumps from Red Bull Racing straight into a Mercedes...
I honestly don't see the connection.🤔

Red Bull Racing and STR are essentially the same organization. They’re structured identically, the cars are incredibly similar, and they probably even use the same procedures...
At the end of the day, you've got the same kid driving one or the other; the only difference is the raw power and quality of the car.
Everything regarding the actual driving—setup and all that jazz—is almost certainly identical.
Ultimately, Red Bull Racing was designed as a training ground for their drivers, so it makes perfect sense that everything is set up the exact same way... it would be weird if it wasn't.

What kind of standard are you even using? Because you specifically said that tier.🤔

I guess we just have set standards for every other debate, right?😁

You jump in with a claim, but when I ask you directly and clearly what you mean, you just deflect back to Bottas and act like I'm the one who needs to define things. Real classy.

Deflecting or switching arguments doesn't work here.👎

stormybadger8 said:Carlos Sainz is basically on Valtteri Bottas' level...
Take that how you want.

As for Max, I don't see any comparison between him moving from STR to Red Bull Racing and some hypothetical scenario where he jumps from Red Bull Racing straight into a Mercedes...
I honestly don't see the connection.🤔

Red Bull Racing and STR are essentially the same organization. They’re structured identically, the cars are incredibly similar, and they probably even use the same procedures...
At the end of the day, you've got the same kid driving one or the other; the only difference is the raw power and quality of the car.
Everything regarding the actual driving—setup and all that jazz—is almost certainly identical.
Ultimately, Red Bull Racing was designed as a training ground for their drivers, so it makes perfect sense that everything is set up the exact same way... it would be weird if it wasn't.

So, Pierre Gasly and Alexander Albon basically just proved you wrong.🤦

stormybadger8 said:When it comes to Max, I’d bet my life savings on him...
As for the guy in the Mercedes, I'm pretty sure he won't just miss the podium—he might not even finish the race.
The guy is in a totally unfamiliar car and a completely new environment. He's a wild driver who pushes things to the absolute limit constantly... honestly, it's a recipe for disaster.

Anyway, regarding Fisichella, he's a perfect example of what I mean. ☕
Fisichella was on the podium just one race before moving over to Ferrari...
And he didn't just make the podium; he was actually fighting for the win against Ferrari, but lost because the Ferrari was simply a better car...
And then, oh look at that, the very next race he jumps into that superior Ferrari and barely scrapes into the top 10. Not making the points at all is a massive step down from where he was.

Regardless of my own take on Max Verstappen, I honestly don't know what all this chatter is about.

Besides, Max was in a similar spot before. He didn't crash; instead, he pulled off the win—his very first one, too. So you can't say the pressure wasn't massive.

stormybadger8 said:When it comes to Max, I’d bet my life savings on him...
As for the guy in the Mercedes, I'm pretty sure he won't just miss the podium—he might not even finish the race.
The guy is in a totally unfamiliar car and a completely new environment. He's a wild driver who pushes things to the absolute limit constantly... honestly, it's a recipe for disaster.

Anyway, regarding Fisichella, he's a perfect example of what I mean. ☕
Fisichella was on the podium just one race before moving over to Ferrari...
And he didn't just make the podium; he was actually fighting for the win against Ferrari, but lost because the Ferrari was simply a better car...
And then, oh look at that, the very next race he jumps into that superior Ferrari and barely scrapes into the top 10. Not making the points at all is a massive step down from where he was.

Let’s not beat around the bush—do you actually think Fisichella is a top-tier driver?

mellowtiger83 said:Not really. 👍

Fisichella is a driver of exceptional talent who simply hasn't had the cards fall his way throughout his career.

Your grasp on motorsport seems a bit superficial; it isn't just him—plenty of drivers have ended up worse off than they deserved due to pure chance.

My take on the sport is subjective, which makes it pretty much irrelevant. On the other hand, your reading of the facts? That’s just superficial.

Having immense talent isn't the same thing as being an elite driver.
Most of these guys are incredibly talented. If they weren't, they wouldn't even be able to hold a spot in the circus. I'm talking about the top-tier drivers, obviously.

stormybadger8 said:Obviously, it’s a given they wouldn't fail, but under these circumstances, just finishing in the top 10 isn't exactly "failing"...
In my opinion, getting a top 10 result in that car is a realistic goal for any solid driver like Sergio Perez or Nico Hulkenberg...
But honestly, even if they pulled Fernando Alonso out of retirement right now, I wouldn't expect much more from him given the situation...

A podium is already a massive stretch for almost everyone, and for an absolute top driver in peak form, maybe 3rd place is the limit (if someone dropped Lewis Hamilton into that car—he'd be dealing with a totally unfamiliar machine and crew, so I wouldn't expect miracles)...
Realistically, even giving Max Verstappen or Valtteri Bottas a shot is a huge ask considering how chaotic it would be to suddenly throw them into a new car and team.
But based on the car itself, a top finish for Perez, Carlos Sainz, Lando Norris, or Daniel Ricciardo is technically possible, even if it's incredibly tough—and you’d still need to be an elite driver to pull it off.

Expecting a win or even 2nd place is just pure fantasy for anyone...
Expecting Bottas to win when he's actually in his element is totally unrealistic.
And expecting Max? Forget it. Honestly, I don't think even Bottas could beat him.

Even though I consider him a top-tier driver, I wouldn't bet on him making the podium. If you're asking me about Max Verstappen, though? I'd take that bet any day. For him, standing on that podium is just part of his daily routine.

mellowtiger83 said:Don't talk nonsense. Just remember how things went for Fisichella when he stepped into that Force India seat as a sub for Massa; Kimi absolutely tore him apart as if they weren't even driving the same cars.

Nobody is talking nonsense here. Fisichella's results were exactly what you'd expect given his actual driving talent.

I generally agree with you all, but honestly, a top-tier driver jumping into a Mercedes mid-season isn't going to fail. They might not squeeze out every ounce of potential, but they certainly won't tank it.
Beyond the fact that the Mercedes is a competitive car, how the entire team operates matters just as much.

It’s a completely different story whether you're sitting in a Racing Point or a Red Bull Racing.
I’d argue that if Hulk were in a Red Bull Racing or a Mercedes, he’d see better results—not just because the car is faster, but because of the overall team environment.
And we shouldn't overlook the fact that while Hulk might not be at the absolute peak of the grid, he still put in a really solid performance at the 70th Anniversary Grand Prix.

stormybadger8 said:https://www.grandprix247.com/2020/10...-great-story/?

It's a pretty solid article, and it hits the nail on the head regarding why Vettel struggled at Ferrari...
And honestly, the same thing will likely happen at Aston Martin if he doesn't manage to bring some of that Red Bull Racing crew along with him...

But what really cracked me up was this:

🤣🤣🤣

Man, are you really that desperate to argue over nonsense like this?
So now we're supposed to believe that back in 2014 at Red Bull Racing, he didn't have Marko, Horner, or Adrian on his side?🤦.

If this is the start of making excuses for a potential slump next year, it’s a pretty bad way to go about it.

I have to admit, Vettel is completely confused right now.
He's making claims like this:
Honestly, even an average fan can see the situation much more clearly from their couch than he can.😕

silverviper44 said:Learn to quote properly. 😂😂😂😂😂

silverviper44 said:Hamilton can't do anything this year because he's been completely cut off; the team isolated him and focused entirely on Leclerc, which is a total screw job by Ferrari.

In my opinion, they should have just let him go immediately and given the seat to someone they actually intend to support—someone hungry, like Mick Schumacher for instance.

I'm looking for proof for the bolded part, but without evidence, this is just noise.😒

Can you actually show some proof for that?😂😂

stormybadger8 said:Who actually claims there wasn't a deal?

The real question is just whether Charles Leclerc

And the only thing up for debate is if Charles Leclerc

All in all, this is the first real test of what kind of leader Mattia Binotto is, and so far, it doesn't look like he's passing.

Nicholas Newman2 said:Even though Ferkan has been sloppy in the past, I don't think they would have asked Sebastian Vettel to let the kid through unless there was some sort of reason—a broken deal, so to speak.

What they discussed before the race or how much patience they have left is irrelevant, even if we could argue about it. I'm simply convinced there was a reason for that request.
The fact that Charles Leclerc didn't even flinch when trying to defend first place supports this.
Please, let's not hear people complaining that he couldn't do anything. We know Charles well enough to know he wouldn't just watch Sebastian Vettel pass him without something happening behind the scenes.

If there wasn't a deal, as some forum users claim—or rather, as they wish—then that would be a nightmare scenario for Sebastian Vettel.
Asking a multi-time champion and highly paid driver to yield to a teammate for no reason can only mean one thing: Sebastian Vettel is being phased out, and the kid is being promoted to Number 1.

You fall into that group I just bolded because you're playing the victim, so here's a clearer view for you.

Nothing here is controversial, except maybe to you and your favorite driver.

Binotto failed miserably. Whether you like Sebastian Vettel or not, he clearly showed the difference between himself and the likes of Christian Horner and Helmut Marko.

Like I wrote a while back, you're going to have a hard time on this forum because you won't drop your tactics, and your favorite driver keeps putting you in an impossible position with his driving.