Posts by reddriver35

What a bunch of suck-ups ☕

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mistywolf17 said:We can't see you. 🤷

So you're telling me that even as a moderator, you can't see my status on Reddit when I'm set to invisible?

What about everyone else? The supermods and admins?

Hey, can you guys actually see where we are on which Reddit thread if we have invisible mode turned on?🙂

Steven Ruiz said:I honestly have no clue why you ended up with 100 points since I can't see into the backend, but let's be real, not every violation is created equal.
It's like if I'm grading my students' PDFs; I'm certainly not going to give the same failing grade to someone who sends a mother back to her hometown as I would to someone just hitting the caps lock key. One thing is much more serious than the other.

My ban actually would have been extended if it hadn't been lifted, and it wasn't just me getting an amnesty, but that third person was also given a break...
And regarding the whole business of posting a private message (though, frankly, I'm not sure what was "private" about someone insulting me, other than their own lack of manners), everything has already been addressed, the penalties were handed out, and the rule is clearly stated.

Even moderators make mistakes sometimes, and we all learn from them...

So I'll ask one more time, what is the actual problem here? Because from where I'm sitting, I just don't see one...

That was exactly my point. I wasn't looking for some petty playground brawl.

Steven Ruiz said:I honestly have no clue why you ended up with 100 points since I can't see into the backend, but let's be real, not every violation is created equal.
It's like if I'm grading my students' PDFs; I'm certainly not going to give the same failing grade to someone who sends a mother back to her hometown as I would to someone just hitting the caps lock key. One thing is much more serious than the other.

My ban actually would have been extended if it hadn't been lifted, and it wasn't just me getting an amnesty, but that third person was also given a break...
And regarding the whole business of posting a private message (though, frankly, I'm not sure what was "private" about someone insulting me, other than their own lack of manners), everything has already been addressed, the penalties were handed out, and the rule is clearly stated.

Even moderators make mistakes sometimes, and we all learn from them...

So I'll ask one more time, what is the actual problem here? Because from where I'm sitting, I just don't see one...

Did you even bother reading the example and the thread from the start of the story? Nicholas?

The real issue here is that group lynching is basically encouraged over at the Lions Club.

Daniel Ward87 said:🙄 Come on, don't be a hypocrite... How many times have you broken the Lions Club rules without getting slapped with an instant three-day ban? Nobody is disputing what we did, but when the moderators mess up, there should be an immediate 3-day ban—no questions asked. When "regular" users screw up, well, that's where the debate starts.

Daniel Ward87

When savages and thugs mess up, just look at this example. Nicholas Then it's allowed.
That moderation error is really getting under my skin. Tell me, what's your take? Daniel Ward87 Where were you when they were little? Nicholas Were they taking the piss? 🤷

It’s pure chaos over at the Lions Club. That’s what everyone is saying—including your own colleagues. Moderators. Who were you chatting with? Steven Ruiz.

The real issue here? Everyone’s obsessed with me being the "main threat" in the ban corner, while the actual bullies at the Lions Club get a free pass every single day.

reddriver35

Nicholas King said:The real issue—if we’re being honest—is that this whole situation has been handled poorly. Just... incredibly poorly. Right from the jump.

First off, there was this universal defense of the Prime Minister's right to post.

Then, out of nowhere, a wave of bans just hits—and suspiciously, they all seem to come in one big package.

After that, people were chatting away about the "banned" users for two straight days.

Then, predictably, a whopping 30 points were handed out for it.

And finally, forum members are being told—from more than one direction, mind you—to stay out of things they supposedly "aren't involved in."

Each of these points deserves a deep dive, really, but if I had to sum them up in a single sentence: don't do this. It isn't right, and frankly, you're just creating unnecessary friction and bad blood.

The problem is they don't get it. They don't *want* to get it. All they care about is fighting.

What kind of moderators and users even make up this forum? That’s it. End of story. It's a shame people can't just sit down and calmly work through their issues.

Not happening. Looking at what was posted, it’s obvious some people here have absolutely no business being moderators. And yet, here they are.

Daniel Ward87 said:It’s honestly sad how you guys act like moderators aren't part of the community too...Regular users break the rules all the time and take the cards and Bans, while mods have to deal with all kinds of nonsense while trying to stay chill, level-headed, and rational—every single day. But the second a mod slips up on the rules, they deserve an even harsher penalty just because they happen to be 🙄

What's with this whole "rules apply to everyone" thing? You guys throw that out constantly, but suddenly the tune changes when it involves the mods. If you're going to preach consistency, then actually be consistent.

Daniel Ward87

It’s honestly a shame you don't read anything from start to finish. Like I already said, the moderators are just regular forum users with extra permissions. And that isn't limited to just this thread, either. I point that out all over the PŽK.

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Daniel Ward87 said:If this were just about acting entitled, we wouldn't have been penalized 🤷 and yeah, sol faking vat. We missed the mark, we got hit with a penalty, so what? If you think it's unfair, then just say it and complain normally instead of doing... this. Plus, I'll say it again: since when is a single post considered a chat?

Daniel Ward87

Sometimes I wonder about that too.

reddriver35

Steven Ruiz said:Like I’ve said before, most of the moderators around here don't have a single strike on their record and they're honestly such model citizens... which really makes them the perfect example for everyone else to follow...
So, I was just wondering... what makes you think the moderators act so arrogant and rude like that...?
I really do try my best to be kind to everyone here and answer any questions that come my way, but let’s be real—if someone comes at me with an attitude or starts being downright rude, they can't exactly expect me to stay sweet... I honestly think most of the moderators feel the exact same way about it too...

You’re actually the perfect example of what I was talking about, so please be honest with me—what was going through your head when you all started chatting? To me, it honestly felt like everyone was just jumping onto the KzB boards to mess around because they knew they could get away with it while nobody else is allowed to... though, sorry, maybe I've got that all wrong... 🤣

I can only speak for myself here, but I really do believe this applies to everyone else too...
I honestly only started chatting because I was bored out of my mind since I couldn't access anything else on the forum. It wasn't some arrogant move to try and prove to everyone how much influence I have or show off my status here... it’s just that I was sitting around with nothing to do, locked out of the main boards, so I figured I'd just come over here and ramble a little bit... My colleagues actually stopped by to say hi, though they were a little shocked to see me acting like such a total goofball. It’s actually kind of a big deal, too... this is officially my first Ban in ten years of being an active member and moderator... 😬 So, there really isn't any talk about anyone being arrogant or acting all high and mighty...

It’s not like that with all the moderators. A lot of them act pretty arrogant and won't bother answering questions from a banned user.

I don't have anything against your chat. Honestly, I actually found it kind of charming. I get that people just dropped in to say hello. They were penalized. That’s enough for me.

I want to see the moderators showing up in the ban corner more often to actually answer questions from the community. Look, I know some of them used to pop in once in a while, but others? Never. That needs to change. If you’re going to be a moderator, do the job completely—otherwise, don't bother being one at all.

And just so we’re clear, I’m not attacking Daniel Ward87. I know he’s a regular at the PŽK meetings, and honestly? That’s fine. But this conversation isn't.

@everyone: Thanks a million for turning this discussion into a total circus!

My thanks go out to the exceptions, like Nicholas King, steelskipper5, nina williams, Steven Reed, placidmarlin3, fat slut, placidfalcon4.

A special shout-out goes to Simple_Fille.
The irony is that this thread wasn't even about her to begin with. But by showing up and digging into the issue once again, she proved what an exemplary moderator looks like. Hey, Strile, maybe take a page out of her book. 😉

@hollowtrucker77: I was going to ask you to lock this thread. Thanks for the help, even if it didn't work. At least I tried something. You know that. 😉

Unfortunately, neither the users nor the moderators seem interested in having a civilized conversation. 👎

Maybe I did whine about myself too much in my posts, but regardless, this topic could have actually served a purpose. Clearly, some of you can't stand me. In that regard, dear users and moderators, you're all exactly the same. 😁

Thanks for listening. 🙂

Wait, hold on—did you think you and I were heading over to the banned users' corner to start posting there right now?

My bad! I totally missed that. Sorry. 🙂

hollowtrucker77 said:Oh, for sure...
The second things get cleaned up or deleted, suddenly the mods turn into total tyrants.
But the moment they actually let things get a little "loose" and unhinged, that’s when you see what this place really turns into—and trust me, it’s not pretty, is it?
🙂

Exactly. I think Nicholas laid out his vision for a decent debate perfectly at the start. I couldn't agree more.

It’s not pretty. Not at all. Just look at the situation with Nicholas earlier in the thread.
I side with velvettiger10 on this: the moderators need to be stricter.
Honestly, I feel like this lax attitude on LJES turned me into a spammer myself.🤷
There's another issue, though. When things get this casual, some people get warned while others don't. In my example with Nicholas, the group being quoted definitely deserved a warning. Yet, one person wasn't flagged at all. And it isn't just about spam. We're talking insults and group bullying here. 😢

What I'm seeing is that some people get a pass, while others get flagged for no reason.

Personally, I've tried cutting back on my own spam and off-topic posts lately. But I'm still getting heat for it.
And honestly? I have no one to blame but myself. Like wiredharbor22 said when she quoted my post: "Why can't you control yourself?" It means everyone needs to dial it back. Find some middle ground. 🙂

And as placidmarlin3 pointed out, we're all human. Even the mods. They can't help themselves from jumping into the chat either. Steven Ruiz is basically throwing a party in the banned users' corner. Personally, I'm glad it happened. Because looking at the logs, you can see exactly how much people love to chat.

But there has to be a limit to everything. Including the spam.

I do disagree with placidmarlin3 regarding letting general users post in the banned corner. That would be pure chaos. Especially on a forum this large.

hollowtrucker77 said:Wait, where exactly? What posts are we even talking about??
And while I’m at it, I’d like to politely ask everyone else to realize that trying to piece together someone's fragmented thoughts is an exhausting mental exercise, so if you're going to start talking, be decent enough to provide the full context instead of leaving us hanging.
🙂

True, but unfortunately, none of that is happening. 😢 Several people have already provided examples. Nicholas King, Matthew Grant9, steelskipper5, placidfalcon4, and even wiredharbor22 mentioned that the atmosphere on LJES is so bad that topics meant for LJES are being kept on the US section instead.

...

A moderator is just another user. Except they have the specific role and power to issue warnings, which regular users don't. That power shouldn't be abused, but it shouldn't be ignored either.

If the behavior patterns actually changed, things might actually improve.

I’m certain there are at least two users from the LJES community mentioned in the initial example. If they actually bothered to scroll up to the PŽK section, they’d see exactly what’s going on. They’d see their own posts, too. Honestly? They should be embarrassed. Personally, I know I have some questionable posts of my own. That’s why I’ve started looking at this forum through a completely different lens lately. It’s also why I sent a PM to the author. And frankly, I’m glad I did.

I think we all need to follow our own conscience. Or better yet, find one.
Both the users and the moderators ought to spend more time in the PŽK. They should actually participate here regularly, instead of just showing up whenever things get entertaining. Which, let’s face it, is how it usually goes.

David Jones said:Just make up your mind already. 😢

Well, I made my decision. I started the thread. I wrote several long-form posts. Everyone else just shows up to troll—not me, but them. And then they completely ignore the actual topic.

Only Nicholas King, steelskipper5, placidmarlin3, Steven Reed, and velvettiger10 actually contributed something substantial. Sure, wiredharbor22 and playlife had a little to say too. The rest? Just endless mocking and emoji support.

🤦 Then don't bother posting at all. Honestly, sometimes just a smiley is enough. 😢

Come on, stop flooding the thread with nothing but emojis. I know you mean well, but you’re doing the exact opposite of what you intend. You're burying the actual discussion. This was supposed to be your space too. That was the whole point.

It seems nobody has the guts to actually say something meaningful. Kudos to the few exceptions out there.

Is everyone just scared? Or do they not know what to say? Or maybe they just won't?

I can see people reading this, but lurking isn't enough.

:donkihot:

P.S. I’m starting to feel like I’m in the corner for banned users.

Kyle King4 said:yeah, well 👍

ugh

just go light a cigarette already 🙂 😁

I don't know whether to send a PM or just say it publicly here, reddriver35. I know you mean well, but I really hate it when people speak for me. Especially when I'm not even banned. I'm not some little kid from the suburbs mentioned in the opening post.😁

edit - and yeah, it's painfully obvious that this entire topic is just a product of your frustration over how you were treated in the women's corner.

You really shouldn't have done that, Kyle King4.

First off, that’s just not true. This whole thread is nothing but a product of the frustration brewing on LJES. And honestly? It's only happening because they've decided to make me the black sheep around here. I have reason to believe my name is being dragged through the mud in the moderator corner, too. So now, every single moderator—acting like some self-righteous bunch of busybodies—is jumping on the bandwagon. mistywolf17 They’re coming for me. Everyone's taking shots.

I've already touched on some of this stuff in my private messages. hollowtrucker77Just a quick heads-up before we officially open this thread.

I’m not some chronic, full-blown troublemaker, despite what people like to claim. Gođa Castro Over at the women's corner. I actually said the exact same thing to her back then, which is why she finally stopped deleting my posts on that lesbian thread. Now I see what was really going on. She was wiping out everyone from the sidebar. Anyway, I'm not going to get dragged into that drama.

I’ll just say this: I once dealt with a coordinated pile-on from the group over at Sexo-chat. It was ugly, plain and simple, and incredibly rude. Latitea was right there in the thick of it with them. She ended up getting banned in the end, but honestly, it shouldn't have even reached that point if they hadn't gone in with such a blatant intent to mock everyone.

It was the exact same thing—a wave of users from LJES flooding the US chat. Just as ugly. But honestly, isn't that just a question of culture and how people were raised?

Just some light mockery here directed at my moderators. They clearly haven't bothered to read this thread from the beginning, despite the fact that I laid everything out perfectly. Seriously?

Hey everyone. Look, there are mistakes. That’s just common knowledge.

The floor is open to everyone—users and mods alike. 🤷

Since we're talking about trolls. It’s never easy when you actually put effort into a post only for it to turn into total garbage. You just feel stupid.

For instance, I can't always spot a troll. I had no clue depressive was a troll. How was I supposed to know? 🤷
And that other user in that thread actually sent me a DM. Honestly, they didn't strike me as a troll at all.

On the flip side, I remember this one thread on LJES. 😁 I can't recall the exact title. I called them cheapskates. A guy and a girl showed up just to bicker on the forum 🤣 (I think it was called Paying the Bill).

But Latitea kept it open because the topic itself was solid.
Man, if only that had been some decent moderation. 👍 (but that’s how it should be all the time!!)
So, there was a troll (or maybe just a nuisance 🤣) but the discussion was good. And that’s what matters. Even after the drama with the cheapskates—actually, even during it—we ended up discussing real experiences regarding splitting the check. It was a great thread. Back then, I was just a newbie user without a single reputation point to my name. Everything was perfectly fine.
Look at how you all brought back memories of me arguing about lesbianism and all that stuff.

So, it's possible. 🙂

And please, stop attacking me.

I've said my piece. I admit my mistakes. At the same time, I believe moderators need to act fairly too.

As for the rest of you, if you have something concrete to say about the topic, say it. Don't just spit venom.

Why are you being so defensive? 😲
Fine, if you want to call me depressed, go ahead. A troll, I guess. It wasn't some depressed guy who messaged me, but some other poser who was posting in this thread. I wasn't here to be entertained. Like I said, I just posted a few constructive comments. I had no idea he was a troll.

Regarding recreation, let me repeat: that question was already brought up in this very same thread! I'm not twisting anything; I simply told the people mentioning recreation to explain their issues right here.

Again, regarding recreation, I only know as much as I've read on this subforum.

And finally, why are you so obsessed with attacking me?

I have no interest in debating this. Slafk.I’ve already said that.
I laid out my problem quite clearly. Was it really that complicated?

And you're just another problem. You really didn't need to hand out that yellow card. Honestly, it felt like pure spite—you did it just because you could. I wasn't even going to bring it up. But then you had to show up just to provoke me.

So, now the moderators are actually showing up in the women's corner? They certainly weren't here before.

And as for LJES? You don't have any idea how much I actually deserved it—or how much I didn't.

And what about how rushed the moderators are? You’re proving that point all over again. I really didn't want to bring this up, but since you're insisting... look at the thread they just opened. Feeling depressed.A few other forum regulars were hanging around, myself included. Val We were all participating here. You just wiped her out without a second thought.

Another forum regular is back at it again. It’s about me, not you. It's about me. He slid into my DMs asking about the topic. I just told him straight: it’s been deleted. He can either start a new thread or actually do some digging through the forum—there are plenty of similar discussions already out there.

Couldn't you have just merged that with the existing thread?

So you just deleted it. Just like that, because you could.

It wasn't just a chat room. There were actually some constructive posts in there too.

And what about Recreation? I was reading through the PŽK and... Kyle King4 Welcome to the banned corner.

And if you actually bother to read through this thread, you'll see the post from... PlaylifeAnd who exactly is bringing up Recreation? There are a few other users on this same thread mentioning Recreation, too. Maybe try reading a little more closely? Just so you know!

I’m not the only one pointing out these issues. This thread isn't about me—it's about this forum and its moderators.

Anonymous said:Hands down, yes.

If one of your buddies had started a similar thread, you wouldn't be here dropping facepalms.

This whole discussion is a perfect example of why on this forum, it’s about WHO is posting, not WHAT they're saying.

You hit the nail on the head. Bias.

It’s not just about this specific facepalm post. It’s in the banning, too. Even in the moderation itself.

And apparently, Nexu finds this topic annoying as well. Why is that? 🤷

Nicole Nelson77 said:So, I’ve been scrolling through this subforum, reading all these complaints about what the mods have done or haven't done lately.

Everything is fine with me.

I’ve definitely lost my cool more than a few times myself.
In my relatively short time hanging out on these boards, I’ve felt that flash of anger toward certain moderators—just because they let their own human flaws get in the way of things.

But so what?!!!

I used to sit there thinking, "What on earth is wrong with this moderator?" Is he just totally out of touch with reality?!

Anyway... more to come...

Look, I get it. By the next morning, the irritation over some random ban for "spamming," trolling, flame wars, or whatever other nonsense labels they throw around usually fades away. Those kinds of petty penalties just drive people away from communities like this.

What I’m actually trying to say is that the guy mentioned in the thread title is actually an emotionally mature individual. He deserves some credit. He doesn't just hand out mindless bans for trolling, spamming, or being slightly off-topic. Instead, he handles things with the composure of a real teacher—a grown-up. He issues warnings, people actually respect him, he gets intelligent humor, and he manages a huge crowd of active users without breaking a sweat... I shouldn't praise him too much, though.

Now, Ms. fairy isn't a bad person, but she really ought to spend more time over at Cocaine Nights.

But seriously, that guy is a rare breed of moderator. He has incredible self-control and he's honest—which I assume go hand in hand. He doesn't go off like some trigger-happy gunslinger with a chip on his shoulder just because nobody's shot him yet...

If that moderator ever decides to flag me, I'll know I actually messed up. I won't go crying to anyone about it. They're hard to find, those types...

If only he were my brother-in-law😁

The whole point of this thread is for the benefit of everyone—to educate the mods, the regular posters, and even the lurkers who just watch the chaos unfold.

It's a simple question, really;

I don't care about your opinion on who the "best" moderator is. What I want to know is how YOU feel when you get hit with a completely senseless penalty—something that, in the grand scheme of your actual life, means absolutely nothing!!!

Are you kidding me?😁

Let’s assume you aren't. Honestly, I don't think you even need this thread. 🤷

You could have just used my thread to praise them—which would be the exact opposite of the title. 🤷

But yeah, agreed. Psychology is being handled well. 👍

Nicholas King said:Now, I don't claim to know exactly how the sequence of events unfolded, but to me—and I dare say this as someone who is well-meaning and certainly not prone to conspiracy theories—it appeared as though Slafk essentially "fell" victim to the mistaken belief that posting was perfectly fine, while Steven Ruiz ended up being banned significantly after the entire debate had played out. All in all, it’s a strange saga.

If some sort of "final ruling" ever actually surfaced stating that the Prime Minister's post would be punished with a one-month 😲😲😲 ban, well, I certainly haven't seen it.

Honestly, I think it's better to just stay out of it now. That's why I wrote what I wrote.

the 30-day ban decision

feraltrucker5 said:@ reddriver35: you really need to take a closer look at this post. 🙂

Every single time, you just spiral off into one of those wild little fantasies of yours, charging ahead like some sort of vigilante trying to force justice upon the world, when in reality, you don't have a single clue what the actual facts are. 🙂 That’s the whole damn issue right there. 😛

Why do I get the feeling this whole topic just bugs you? Honestly, it does. I'm clearly getting on your nerves.

I'd actually rather not talk about Slafk right now since he isn't here to defend himself.

He’s definitely something. But the fact remains: nobody has been entirely fair to him either. 👎

I mean, you posted that facepalm before I even said a word about Slafk.

So, you don't approve of the topic.

Or are you taking this personally?

What's wrong with me asking for the mods to show up in the women's corner? They don't. If they actually showed up, I wouldn't even be bringing it up.

feraltrucker5 said:Yeah. And on top of that, she just throws in a mountain of assumptions, treating them like they're absolute gospel when they have zero connection to reality.

Then she acts all shocked when nobody takes the discussion seriously. 🤷 🙂

The forum has plenty of issues, sure, but things would actually improve if someone stepped up and laid them out objectively and rationally instead of making it personal.

Instead, everything here just devolves into these hysterical, petty squabbles and accusations like, "Oh, he did this to me!" or "She said that to me!"

Listen, everyone, if you actually want your complaints to be addressed, at least try to make a coherent point about what the actual problem is. 🙂

Now you're backtracking after that facepalm post of yours. What exactly is the issue with me? I think I made my point perfectly clear, especially since other people are backing me up here. I'm just asking for feedback. Is this right or not?

**Bolded:** You're being incredibly negative. If you have personal issues with me, leave them out of this. 🤷

@wiredharbor22: Noted!

@feraltrucker5: What bothers you is that I mentioned Steven Ruiz because you all got a warning. Is that really what's bothering you?

wiredharbor22 said:Some of what you're saying, reddriver35, actually makes sense, but it gets lost in all that rambling about who you love or what you choose to write... Try to be a bit more concise and constructive, and maybe we'll see some progress.

Where on earth did I say who I love or hate?😕

All I said was that September wasn't kind to me.😁

And I mentioned that only feraltrucker5 and scripta elegans fe showed up in the corner for those who were banned. So, I was giving them credit.

I simply said I love Slafk. 🤣

Just so there's no confusion: I love you too. 🙂

If I need to edit my post, I will. I'm heading out. 😬

driftingeagle27 said:So, just take a look at how they "moderate" the Music section. 😕

Give me something concrete. An example. An actual argument.

wearyotter81 said:There’s been this ongoing issue over at the recreation center for quite a while now😍

Great. 😍

@Jacob Foster11: Exactly. That's what I meant when I said he just wanted to argue. Though we have to admit, Slafk did push through some changes on the forum. This ban is one of them. Now we can rest easy knowing users won't be posting PMoves.

It would be nice to actually solve problems now. Civilly.