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Participants Bradley White73silverwolf88cosmicgull52Brenda Parker5Henry Morris4rowdytiger13William Grant20Jessica Morris6ruggedmaker99Sam Alvarez4boldraven3Robin Sanders75bluecyclist64
cosmicgull52 cosmicgull52 Active Member
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#81 ·
We can stay right here. Since I’ve already lost one person, I don't mind blocking another four or five. 🙂
Brenda Parker5 Brenda Parker5 Active Member
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joined Aug 2020
#82 ·
Mark Cruz15 said:Just my two cents on this.

And one more for Jacob Lopez51.



That’s pretty much it—you can tell who knows what they're talking about.🙂

Btw, anyone know who this is??
https://i.postimg.cc/MGDQhf2T/IMG-20210907-WA0000.jpg
Brenda Parker5 Brenda Parker5 Active Member
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#83 ·
What a killer live set. Honestly, I think this band gets way too little credit—to me, they actually top Cannibal Corpse.


Just another genius underground band from Florida—Brutality, with their absolute masterpiece of a debut, Screams of Anguish.
Robin Sanders75 Robin Sanders75 Newcomer
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#84 ·
Ugh... death metal? I moved past that phase ages ago, right around the time I outgrew my awkward teenage years.
I went through that whole phase alongside all those other adolescent clichés; it's definitely not my vibe anymore.🕺

To me, it’s just simply too basic and far too predictable for my ears.
Jessica Morris6 Jessica Morris6 Active Member
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#85 ·
Jacob Lopez51 said:That’s basically it, you can tell who actually knows their stuff...🙂

By the way, does anyone recognize this guy??
https://i.postimg.cc/MGDQhf2T/IMG-20210907-WA0000.jpg

I honestly have no clue, I'm not quite that much of an insider. All I know is that the drummer is essentially the alpha and omega of CC, that Chuck S. is arguably the most talented ever to do it, and a few other things along those lines. I haven't even listened to everything that's considered essential...
Brenda Parker5 Brenda Parker5 Active Member
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#86 ·
Does this look easy enough to you?
Brenda Parker5 Brenda Parker5 Active Member
59 messages
joined Aug 2020
#87 ·
So, that's John Gallagher from Dying Fetus, but now he’s got hair. Honestly, being bald looked a hundred times better on him—now he just looks like some random grandpa.

Yeah. The CC drummer is basically on Lars Ulrich's level. Haha, I guess since his buddies haven't called him out on it for ages... but hey, they have that specific kind of bomb groove rhythm, so any decent drummer could probably pull that off easily.

I mean, there have been some seriously brutal drummers in death metal and live settings. Like, Marco Minneman actually played live with Necrophagist once.

For me, the most natural and talented drummer was definitely the late Vitek from Decapitated.


That's how you play with actual style.
Jessica Morris6 Jessica Morris6 Active Member
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#88 ·
Jacob Lopez51 said:Is this really that simple for you?

To me, the drumming feels way too aggressive, and the vocals just sound terrible in a live setting... It honestly reminds me of some old Deathov gig...
Jessica Morris6 Jessica Morris6 Active Member
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#89 ·
Jacob Lopez51 said:Yeah, the drummer in CC is basically playing at Lars Ulrich levels... haha, I guess that’s just what happens when your bandmates haven't shut you up for a while, but honestly, they have this specific heavy groove going on that any drummer worth their salt could pick up without breaking a sweat...

I'm fully aware he's the one composing everything and writing all the tracks.
Brenda Parker5 Brenda Parker5 Active Member
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#90 ·
Mark Cruz15 said:I mean, I know he's the one behind the scenes putting everything together and writing all the tracks.

If you look at Cannibal Corpse, I think back in the day they had Webster working with the guitarists—they always had killer guitar players. Honestly, they basically poached guitarists from Monstrosity and Malevolent Creation, and even grabbed a corpsegrind vocalist from Monstrosity too. But look, the bottom line is they pulled massive sold-out tours and actually had a real tour bus. That’s what made the difference...
Robin Sanders75 Robin Sanders75 Newcomer
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#91 ·
Jacob Lopez51 said:Is this actually straightforward enough for you?

Are you really asking me?

If it is, then the answer is yes.
Brenda Parker5 Brenda Parker5 Active Member
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joined Aug 2020
#92 ·
Mark Cruz15 said:The drums feel way too aggressive for me, and the vocals just sound off live. It honestly reminds me of some old Deathov gig.

Death is an indestructible legacy. I’m actually gonna blast Symbolic during practice tomorrow.👍

Have you ever listened to Necrophagist? Muhammed is pretty much the only guitarist who even came close to Chuck S. The guy played like Beethoven dropped into death metal—it was insane. That Epitaph album... man. I saw them live back in 2006 at a tiny club in Chicago when they were opening for Bolt Thrower. There were maybe ten people there. Such incredible technique and pure shredding. I was absolutely floored.
Robin Sanders75 Robin Sanders75 Newcomer
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#93 ·
Quote : Guns of Brixton
cosmicgull52 said:We can just stay right here; since I've already lost one battle once before, I really don't mind taking on another four or five ignores if that's how this goes. 🙂

Look, I’m more than willing to volunteer my help here, so please, just don't put me on the ignore list—and let's get that part taken care of right away!

I truly believe this will be a positive step toward ensuring the continued survival of this entire discussion thread.

Let's just make a pact: I’ll start ignoring you, and you can do the exact same to me. Isn't that a fair deal? It seems like a win-win situation where everyone gets exactly what they deserve.
Jessica Morris6 Jessica Morris6 Active Member
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#94 ·
I heard about them, probably listened to a bit too, but it just didn't stick. I only see two albums listed here, which isn't exactly a massive discography to dive into... 👍

Bolt Thrower didn't really click for me at first, though I gave them another spin recently and they're sounding a little better. I can't quite remember which one I have loaded up in my car, I think it might be Realm of Chaos.
cosmicgull52 cosmicgull52 Active Member
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#95 ·
Robin Sanders75 said:I’ll volunteer to skip the ignore button for now if you do the same!

This will ensure this thread survives longer.

Let’s make a deal. I will ignore you too. It is a win-win situation.

Are you insane? I need to enjoy Sunday when we crush everyone. 😍 I am just going to ignore these metalheads. Sorry, guys, you are taking me back to my youth, but specifically to the most unpleasant moments. Just like that thing with the vulvas—I don't want to get cancer from this stream of consciousness.
Brenda Parker5 Brenda Parker5 Active Member
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#96 ·
Mark Cruz15 said:I’ve heard of them—probably listened to some stuff too—but it all kind of slipped my mind. I only see two albums listed, which isn't exactly a huge discography to dig through. 👍

Bolt Thrower didn't really click for me at first, but I gave them another shot recently and they're sounding a bit better. Not sure which one I have playing in my car, I think it's Realm of Chaos.

Check out Necrophagist's Epitaph. You won't regret it.
Bolt Thrower was awesome for me on the Mercenary album, but honestly, looking back at Necro, I don't even think I actually listened to Bolt Thrower.
After watching about 30 minutes of that Necrophagist live set, I was just sitting there like: wait, am I actually seeing this right??

It's just something else...

Muhammad actually had material ready for a new album, but some big-shot record label messed things up and he ended up taking an engineering job at a BMW plant instead—so that whole thing just died out.
The first album is great too, though they re-recorded it later with a real drummer instead of using a drum machine, so definitely look for that version. But Epitaph? That's in a league of its own. Highly recommended.
Robin Sanders75 Robin Sanders75 Newcomer
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#97 ·
cosmicgull52 said:Are you kidding me? Is it really necessary to be this crazy when we're planning to absolutely crush you guys this Sunday?

You were talking just as much trash back when those little green sardines were in town, and let's be honest, they didn't just beat you—they completely embarrassed you.😛

Look, can we just agree to ignore each other until after the game is over? Once it's done, though, we should definitely revisit this so we can keep teasing you about that whole Guns N' Roses topic for a while longer.
cosmicgull52 cosmicgull52 Active Member
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#98 ·
You are starting a ridiculous plan. You should not be blocking a moderator 😠
Jessica Morris6 Jessica Morris6 Active Member
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joined Nov 2022
#99 ·
Jacob Lopez51 said:You really need to listen to Necroohagist's "Epitaph"... you won't regret it...
I used to think Bolt Thrower was my absolute favorite mercenary-style band, but honestly, looking back at everything Kre Necroa has done... I’m starting to wonder if I ever actually listened to Bolt Thrower at all...
After sitting through thirty minutes of that Necrophagist livestream, I can't help but wonder if I'm actually seeing things or if it was just me... because the look on his face was absolutely something else...

Something truly one-of-a-kind...

Muhammad actually had all this incredible material lined up for a new album, but some shady record label completely screwed him over, and now he’s just working as an engineer at a Ford plant and none of that music ever saw the light of day...
The debut album is honestly top-tier, though you really have to hunt down the version where they re-recorded the drum machine tracks with a live drummer to get the full effect... that's the one worth finding, but man, Epitaph is in a league of its own. If you listen to anything, make it that one...

I'm heading over to the hardware store to pick one up...
rowdytiger13 rowdytiger13 Regular
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#100 ·
I’m going to burst this little bubble of perfection, just a tiny bit...

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