Bad Boys

ironpanther4 said:If someone calls me an idiot just because they’re obsessed with the Yankees and Chicago, I’ll take that as a compliment. My question was rhetorical. We should probably ask the fans of some bottom-tier MLS team when they actually plan on showing up to celebrate anything. You guys give yourselves way too much credit. Just because you’re acting like big shots in Miami doesn't mean anyone else in America gives a damn about your little moral high ground.

Are you seriously still obsessed with the Yankees and Chicago?
I’d probably hang myself out of sheer embarrassment if I were expected to root for the Yankees. It’s hard to swallow when the club president has been an FBI agent for decades, but hey, as long as we maintain our "patriotism," right? I wouldn't even live in Chicago if they offered me a 4 million euro salary.
My hometown is basically Monte Carlo for Chicago. Thank God I can pull in 8 to 10 million a year; living on that kind of money is more than enough for my tastes, but it’s still nowhere near the most desirable lifestyle in all of America. Honestly, the facts speak for themselves: we’re one of the few places seeing consistent growth, we've already become the second largest city in our region, and there are probably more cranes on site here than in the entire downtown district combined.
If I could just bite the bullet, sell that place down in Miami, and throw up a couple of apartment buildings, then you’d finally see how much I actually hate living in ZeGeu. 🤣
Greetings from Istria. 🙂

Is it really an honor for you that I think you're an idiot? First off, I don't actually think you're an idiot. I think you're an amoral piece of trash. I never mentioned your intelligence, let alone questioned how high it reaches.
It’s an honor to be proven right. I told you all exactly what this was, and here we are. My apologies to the few guys on this board from a couple of posts back—hats off to you, and truly, my condolences. I’m trying to put myself in your shoes, and honestly, it sucks. There’s no repression quite like the feeling of a total group failure after you gave everything to it. To you people, the Yankees are either a religion or just a cult; it clearly doesn't matter which.

wiredsurfer112 said:obsessed with the Yankees and Chicago?

Thank God you wrote the whole Bible just to justify your post. But I guess if you aren't obsessed, you still somehow found the time to, get this, lecture us on this forum about what we should or shouldn't do, just so we don't accidentally hurt someone's feelings.

Who on earth is rambling on about morality here?

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velvetmoose30 said:Suddenly, it’s not cool to be a contrarian anymore, right? Now we're all supposed to celebrate those European deep runs, the bought championships, and all that nonsense...
They push this whole "Chicago is celebrating" narrative, even though just yesterday we were laughing at how they'd celebrate a title in front of maybe a hundred people—just the inner circle of those losers in Management.
It’s pathetic, really, because we’re starting to look just like the scum who spent years spitting on us while standing behind their great leader, Zdravko.
There used to be times when fewer than a hundred people showed up to games, and back then, there was actual grit and prideful resistance against the state of the club and the whole mess of American soccer. It just isn't that kind of scene anymore, and honestly, it sucks that it's changed like this...
As for the message itself... people used to mock their "Code," yet because we fought for our own code—you know, fighting for ZZD—we endured years upon years of torture from ZM, the system, and everything else.
Now, they’re mocking the association of members and fans who actually managed to bring the club back under their own control. Instead of supporting this style of management, they're pushing a message that mocks the very thing we dream of having in our own club one day. In plain English: screw your "one member, one vote" idea, especially when you constantly cry about Mamić and the refs while being totally incompetent yourselves.
There’s a massive difference between posting a jab at a past situation where the other side clearly won, and mocking the actual structure of the club that you ultimately want for yourself.
And all that stuff they write, acting like everything is perfect, singing praises for Bandić and such... it just screams insecurity.

Come on, please, walk me through exactly where in that message you see them mocking the club's structure?

You and all these local killjoys... is it really that hard to read that the mockery is aimed at the NH guys who have their fingers in the cookie jar? 🤦

@wiredsurfer112/">@@wiredsurfer112 I was going to explain to you how your "Option C" is nothing more than a total fantasy in today's Chicago, but then you started rambling about cranes and Monte Carlo... 🙄it’s blindingly obvious you haven't lifted a finger in your life to fight for anything better.☕

wiredsurfer112 said:I’m with you on this one. Honestly, it’s just a massive embarrassment, no matter who you ask. A total fail.

Honestly, what are you guys even arguing about? I’m just sitting here enjoying the show. For ten years, I’ve been telling everyone that the day would come when all those critics would finally get a reality check. Back then, everyone was like, "No way, that'll never happen." But look at them now. You can see these guys have a real philosophy—they're willing to take the hit if they have to, but they will never, ever back down.

Well, there you have it. As of today, nobody is at fault—not Mamić, not Loksa, everything is supposedly perfectly clean. According to them, the only problem is that the Dodgers are just incompetent. 😉
Well, what's going on?

And as for that idiot from before... You know, you’ve also got the option to just show up in massive numbers and not make a whole big deal out of celebrating. Did that ever cross your mind?

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Are we really still acting like we’re intimidated by the Yankees and Chicago?
I honestly don’t think I could bring myself to cheer for the Yankees if the club president had been an FBI agent for decades. It’s just too much shame to bear. But hey, as long as we're all being patriots, right? Who cares about anything else? Honestly, I wouldn't even live in Chicago unless they were handing me a 4 million euro salary to do it.
My hometown is basically the Monte Carlo of the US compared to Chicago. Honestly, thank God I manage to scrape together about $8k to $10k a month; while living on that amount doesn't cover everything I’d love to do, it’s still miles ahead of what most people can dream of in this country. It really goes to show that we're one of those rare spots seeing consistent growth. We've actually become the second largest city in our region by population, and I swear there are more construction cranes popping up here than there are in the entire downtown area of a major metro.
If I could just find a way to bite the bullet, sell that property down in Miami, and put up a couple of apartment buildings, then you'd finally see how much I actually enjoy living outside of the ZeGe area! 🤣
Greetings from Istria! 🙂

Is it really considered an honor for you that I think you're an idiot? First off, I don't think you're an idiot.Look, I honestly think you’re being completely out of line here. I never once made any comments about your intelligence, let alone questioned whether or not you were smart enough to handle this.
I have to say, I feel a certain sense of vindication being proven right about this—it turns out you guys are exactly who I thought you were. To those few guys from a couple of posts back, please accept my apologies; hats off to you, and I truly feel for your situation. I’m trying to put myself in your shoes, and honestly, it can’t be easy. There’s no kind of repression that hurts quite like watching a group you poured your heart into completely fall apart. It seems whether you view the Yankees as sacred or just some club doesn't really matter; the result is the same.

Always, and I mean always, staying true to that 1950s vibe.
The sheer level of obsession you guys have with the Yankees and Chicago really shows when I look at that playlist from the welcome party for the junior squad. They just finished playing against—believe it or not—Philadelphia, a game where, shockingly, Philadelphia got totally robbed because your team should have easily walked away with a couple of straight red cards.

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Can we please just have some silence 🙂
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My apologies, I misread the data. It's clear that in the section 300 meters from the stadium, the crowd is significantly thinner.
Five brave souls and those 15 who were busy targeting civilians. So, roughly 20 people.

Even Antolić wouldn't be scrubbing posts at this kind of lightning speed—bravo, Tomo. Long live free speech...

Total nonsense... you're just playing fan games on the internet.
You are masters of spin. When it comes to the events from a few days ago, you immediately pivot to historical incidents just to mask your own disgrace...
..but fine, since you insist on citing examples, let's go all the way... and let's do this systematically.

Was the root being filmed?? If it had been, there would probably be more German spoken than American....

Breaking through barriers to save some rags??? Give me an example... or is this also just "spin," like those fabricated actions you claim other groups took... buddy, the buses didn't even stop on the way back from Phoenix, and so on... what on earth are you basing this on??

Boise.... why was there debate about whether the first van should stop or not? You knew everything, just like we did.
That is the only thing you admit as a defeat, and then you list a dozen stupid arguments.

The footage at the St. Mark tunnel??... It was recorded... nobody is downplaying or disputing your victory.

You don't ask about the footage a month after Muscle Beach? Did the brakes fail or something?

You don't ask about the footage after the Bosils incident? Were the vans just poorly driven again?

You don't ask about the footage from Vukovar? There were many incidents there, not just one, right?

There is a massive amount of material that will never be uploaded to the internet because it doesn't belong there, and besides, any of our people who do upload footage of these events get punished, and they will be punished in the future as well..

On away trips, you find yourselves at gas stations with rival groups and claim you won't fight because you know each other from the national team? Is that really true, or is it just business??

You arrive in Miami before dawn and call that a success? At 5:00 AM, are we the cowards regardless of the time of day?

The young guys acting like cowards on the field after the party?

Macola... kudos to our idiots for giving you enough material to film. You didn't mention the ratio or the composition of both sides then? It’s better to prevent than to treat. You knew what was coming.

What happened less than a month after Macola following your trip to Phoenix?

Karlovac... what kind of idiots were those?

NSB...? What on earth was that?

The association... were those guys from the club inside? Of course, that action is being downplayed too. Why were you even approached by the association?

Filming the fight with the Southerners—is that because of what happened a few months prior after returning from the derby, or because of the association? Isn't that enough? Who exactly shouted "it's not enough"??

St. Louis... were there more incidents, or just one?

Lisbon... couldn't you have just gone down another street? Was it just spontaneous?

Innotesco.... it's better for people to end up in jail than for a greater disgrace to occur?

Arriving in New York dozens of times where the police used to show up before you, and where numbers were exchanged, during lunchtime? You guys make it look easy.

And now, regarding this recent event..... you were just sitting in a cafe and happened to see the convoy?

It is easiest to write on the internet, spread hatred, inflate your ego, and imagine you are someone important, yet when faced with the same number of people, you just say "damn, idiots" and run away, isn't that right? Even in your own city? Even as people who are supposedly well-known?? (Just typical egotrips...)

We admit our defeats and we don't run from them, but it's easiest to call others hypocrites... while you... you are invincible. Kisses until the next matchup.

Everyone is talking way too much...

A little provocation here or there is one thing, but posting something like this online? Only a complete idiot would do that.

Jerry Morris2 said:Everyone is talking way too much...

A little provocation here and there is fine—but posting something like this online? That’s something only a half-wit would attempt...

Oh, please... Just imagine actually filming the whole thing and uploading it to YouTube 😵

vividotter40 said:Sure... And just imagine filming the whole thing and uploading it to YouTube. 😵

I agree. Both sides are acting ridiculous.

The real issue here is the total lack of respect on both sides.
One guy lies about the ramps, the other makes up stories about Boise and the vans, and a third one invents some other nonsense... They are manufacturing their own truths. This idiot claims we were all equal in number... Seriously, who are you kidding? When have we ever been equal in numbers? Ever? Instead of just admitting the weekend was great and leaving it at that, why the drama? No fake apologies, no false grandstanding. A loss is a loss, but a bold move is still a bold move. That’s the bottom line.

Jerry Morris2 said:Everyone is talking way too much...

A little provocation here or there is fine, but posting something like this online can only be done by someone who's half-witted...

Why? Because with everything going on, the police actually have better reports than you do. But I get it, it’s not exactly easy to cite sources, is it?

slycyclist19 said:Total amateurs... you guys are just playing at being fans online.
You guys are world-class spin doctors. Every time we talk about what happened a few days ago, you immediately pivot to historical events just to mask your own embarrassment.
Alright, since we’re already laying out all these examples, let's just go all the way. Let's take them one by one.

If they actually filmed that, we’d probably end up hearing more German than American.

Breaking through barriers just to save some cheap fabric? Give me an actual example. Or is this just another spin, like those fake campaigns you guys try to push on people in other groups? Man, saying trucks didn't stop on their way back from Chicago is a stretch. You're basically calling everyone Pinocchio. What kind of logic is that even based on?

So, about that intersection... why was the first van driver even hesitating on whether to stop or keep going? It’s like they all knew exactly what was coming, just like we did.
That’s the only thing you'll call a loss, and you're just throwing out a bunch of nonsense arguments to back it up.

Was that video near the Lincoln Tunnel? People were filming... look, nobody is downplaying or questioning your win.

You didn't ask about the video. Did the brakes fail or what?

You didn't ask about the footage after the Bush campaign ended? Let me guess—more bad vans out there?

Aren't you going to ask about that footage from the incident back in the day? Besides, there was way more going on there than just that one single moment, wasn't there?

There’s certain footage that just doesn't belong on the internet. It has no business being online. Besides, anyone around here who tries to upload videos of these kinds of events gets shut down, and they'll keep getting punished for it too.

When you're out on the road at gas stations with other groups, do you really swear off fighting just because you all played together on the national team? Is that actually how it works, or is it strictly business?

You think arriving in Los Angeles before sunrise counts as success? At 5:00 AM, we're already out there doing the work. Regardless of the hour.

Are the party's young recruits just playing games on the field?

Man, what a joke. Honestly, kudos to those idiots for giving you guys all that ammunition for the shoot. You didn't even bother bringing up the ratio or the breakdown from either side, did you? It’s always better to prevent a disaster than to try and fix one after the fact. You knew exactly what was coming.

What happened after your visit to Miami about two weeks after Macola?

What kind of losers were they in Karlovac?

NSB? Is that actually a threat?

The association... were those guys from the club inside or what? Of course that whole operation is being overlooked. Why did you even bother showing up to the association in the first place?

Is this whole thing about filming the clash with the guys from the Midwest? Is it because of what went down a few months back after that big rivalry game, or is it about that local fan association? Isn't that enough? Who exactly is saying "it's not enough"?

Hey, were there actually more events happening, or just that one?

Lisbon... couldn't you make it to the next street over? Or was that just a spontaneous move?

Is it better for people to end up behind bars than to let an even bigger disgrace happen?

Pulling into Chicago is a total breeze. It’s exactly where the cops used to roll through before you guys showed up, back when everyone was still haggling over prices. Lunchtime is hitting right about now. Easy stroll from here.

So, about that thing from a few days ago... you were just hanging out at a coffee shop when you happened to spot a convoy rolling by?

It’s easy to hide behind a screen. You can spread hate, inflate your ego, and act like you’re somebody important when you're just typing away. But the second you run into someone face-to-face, you fold. You get intimidated and run the other way. It happens even in your own backyard. Even with people who think they're big shots. Just a bunch of ego trippers.

We don't run from our losses; we own them. It’s just easier to dump that baggage on hypocrites like you. But hey, you guys seem unbeatable. See you at the next matchup.

You could try to answer all this, kid, and just shut up and take it, but some things are better handled differently. Instead of all this chatter, lying, and spreading myths, there’s a much cleaner, healthier way to go about it. We should be raising the younger generations to value healthy rivalry and fair play. But I guess that’s not really your style. When it comes to stuff like this, you don't make excuses; you just live in your own little bubble. You don't engage in these debates with anyone else, and you don't listen to any of this nonsense. How does that even work? Just happens spontaneously, I guess. Later.

hiddenridge99 said:Even Antolić wouldn't scrub posts this fast. Way to go, Tom. Long live free speech...

Screw you, Antolic, you absolute idiot.

slycyclist19 said:Absolute clowns... just playing pretend as fans on the internet.
you guys are the absolute masters of spinning things, honestly... whenever something actually happens, you immediately pivot to some historical nonsense just to mask how embarrassing you really are...
..but fine, if we're going to play this game and cite examples, let's go all the way... let's take them one by one...

saying the footage was recorded?? maybe the accent sounded more like something from rural Texas than standard American...

breaking through barriers just to save some scraps??? give me an example... or is this just another one of those made-up scenarios you throw at people from other groups... man, those idiots on the way back from Phoenix didn't even stop, and then you try to paint Pinocchio and the devil as the reason why? what are you even basing that on??

Otahce.... why did the first van driver have to wonder whether to pull over or not? you guys knew everything, just like we did, right?
That's the only thing you actually admit was a loss, and even then, you list a dozen stupid arguments to cover it up.

that video by the St. Mark tunnel?? yeah, it was filmed... nobody is downplaying or denying your victory there.

you don't ask about the footage from a month after Misec? were the brakes out or something?

you don't ask about the footage after Bosiljev? were the vans just bad again?

you don't ask about the footage from Vukovar? There were plenty of incidents there too, wasn't it more than just one?

there’s a mountain of material that will never see the light of day on the internet because it shouldn't be there, and besides, anyone in our circle who posts any kind of footage gets punished, and they'll keep getting punished in the future..

when we travel, you find yourselves hanging out at gas stations with other groups and claim you won't fight because you know each other from the national team? is that really the truth, or is it just business??

showing up in a city before dawn and calling that a success? arriving at 5 AM, while we're called cowards regardless of the time of day?

those kids acting like little cowards on the field after the party?

Macola... hats off to our idiots for giving you enough material to film. You didn't mention the ratio or the lineup of both sides there, did you? Better to prevent something than to try and fix it later. You knew what was coming.

less than a month after Macola, what happened following your trip to Phoenix?

Karlovac... what kind of idiots were those?

NSB...? Was it really the devil?

the association... were those guys from the club inside or what? Of course, that action gets downplayed too. Why were you even sent to deal with that association in the first place?

filming that fight with the guys from the Midwest... was that because of what went down a few months prior after returning from the derby, or was it because of the association? Isn't that enough? Who exactly was shouting that it wasn't enough??

Sl. Brod... were there more incidents or just that one?

Lisbon... couldn't you just go down another street? was it just spontaneous?

Innotesco.... better to end up in jail than to face a bigger embarrassment?

arriving in a city dozens of times where the police used to show up before you, exchanging numbers, meeting during lunch time? you guys are real masters of the easy stroll, aren't you?

and now this incident from a few days ago..... you were just sitting in a cafe and happened to see the convoy?

it's so easy to write stuff online, spread hate, inflate your own egos, and pretend you're someone important, but when you come face to face with the same number of people, you just say "man, what idiots" and run away, right? Even in your own hometown? Even when you're supposedly the most visible guys around?? (Just a bunch of ego-trippers...)

we admit our losses and we don't run from them, but it's easier to just call people hypocrites... whereas you... you guys are invincible, Pusa until the next match.

You're ridiculous, and your little circus of a group is even more pathetic—just a bunch of cowards, actors, and fake "fighters." Shut your mouth.

SlavicEmpire The user said:What a joke you all are. You’re just talking to yourselves at this point—who do you actually think you're impressing? Everyone can smell the desperation; you're all just scrambling for cheap clout now that the glory days of BBB are long gone. And there’s plenty of reason to be bitter, considering how much people have been harassed over absolute nonsense for years. Yet, despite everything, you still have the whole region, the city, and even the entire country sucking up to you. The Bad Boys are constantly being pushed aside, and you coastal types act like it’s perfectly fine. You want us to stop celebrating our titles and just sit there quietly, listening to whatever our rivals from the South tell us how to behave.

Well, you won't, because when it comes to being number one, everyone should just mind their own business. And what about number two? Why wouldn't they be celebrating the titles for the club we support?

It’s all just noise from GNK; Mamić and Bandić are nothing but empty talk.Dinamo is Dinamo. Those local idiots who flatter them while simultaneously trying to play both sides—thinking it's okay to cheer against the very club they claim to support—are just as deluded as you are. They're fools if they think you can win a fight against the mafia by rooting against the team.

Look, what I'm trying to say is that BBB are officially the supporters of Dinamo. Regardless of whatever state the club is in right now, it’s still our Dinamo. To be clear, I’m not talking about "our" Mamić or the rest of that crowd running the show—I'm talking about the crest, the jersey, the stadium, and everything else that ties us to this institution.

It’s pure hypocrisy when they lecture us on anything. They flock to the city in these massive numbers just to undermine our club, yet they find every possible way to exalt their own side or shield them whenever they act like total thugs. It's laughable—they never face an ounce of criticism from their own people; there's always some excuse made to overlook their outbursts. Meanwhile, BBB gets dragged through the mud for every little thing. The standards haven't been equal for years when it comes to BBB and Torcida, so trying to compare those fans to BBB is completely baseless.

I won't even begin to mention how the club we support has functioned as nothing more than a tool for political and criminal circles throughout its entire history—groups that actively prevent anything from ever becoming legitimate. They benefit from the chaos; they want things to stay broken so the issues are never truly resolved. All those chants favoring Mamić and Bandić are just as pointless as this message BBB hoisted up during the derby, which people are now debating so heatedly despite it being completely off the mark.

I don't think we missed the mark at all. Honestly, those guys are nothing but hypocrites. They remind me exactly of the Red Sox fans—both groups just suck up to whoever is in power whenever they can. People hate them because they throw things at rivals, but that isn't why there's no respect; it's because their entire way of operating is identical. For both sides, the only thing that matters is sticking it to the rival. They don't actually care about the club's long-term interests; the team is secondary to them. Their main goal is just being loud, powerful, and numerous, and they’ll sacrifice everything else to achieve that. There shouldn't be any confusion when they call us "political operatives" or whatever, because they are the literal definition of an agency. Only an agency cares about group strength while treating the actual team like a total afterthought. To be fair, Zvezda was pretty much a non-entity for years, similar to how Hajduk used to be, until the political heavyweights took over the reins and started handing out championships.

No one is going to convince me that those guys wouldn't be celebrating if some coach brought them ten trophies in a row. If he did, they’d instantly find some excuse to claim it was perfectly natural for them, while labeling it "abnormal" for us Dinamo fans and BBB. So, you and everyone else like you—whether you're pulling for Dinamo or Hajduk—are exactly the same. You're just selling smoke to idiots on this forum, and even though you talk about "the internet," that's the only place you actually exist. A few lost street fights don't change the fact that the Bad Boys can hold their own on the street, and imagine what would happen if we actually had a club backing our "actions"—not just the hooligan stuff, but everything else—the way your so-called "own Hajduk" supports you. I won't even go there. Look, man, things are wild on our side, and the haters can cry all they want because Hajduk lives forever. Only absolute morons from the Dinamo camp would even try to debate Hajduk fans about whether a certain message or action was "correct." In the end, they beat up some guy who isn't even involved in the scene, and then they have the nerve to mock him and act like it's no big deal. They're playing fools, and you're playing fools right along with them, still trying to justify their messages or their little roadside videos as if that makes it "ultra."

A lot of what they do isn't "ultra" at all. They've tried to settle scores in incredibly stupid ways so many times that they just ended up getting slaughtered. And despite constantly taking hits, they still think it’s okay to cause chaos on a busy street in downtown Chicago by harassing random bystanders. Now we're supposed to take life advice from people like that?

I'll say it again: the Deli and the Tovari have followed the exact same pattern since the beginning. The only thing I respect about them are a few guys from the old-school 1980s crowd—real fans who were actually decent human beings. As for this current bunch of losers acting like they own the legacy of Torcida, I couldn't care less. Their insults don't bother me any more than being called some extremist political fanatic would. Honestly, it's so trivial that I could barely sleep tonight because one of their messages hurt my feelings so much.

Everyone knows nobody supports organized crime. If anyone doesn't support it, it's the Dinamo fans, because they're the ones most screwed over by it; the club has basically been turned into a private storefront for criminal activities. So, I see no reason to waste breath explaining myself to those guys from the West Coast who act like big-shot leaders while constantly pulling shady stunts they mistake for greatness.

They can be our rivals, but I don't see why so many of us feel the need to constantly react to their stupidity or debate things that are already obvious. At the end of the day, the younger generation of Bad Boys aren't agents. Sure, there are idiots in every group—there's always someone who doesn't get how things work—but those people should be educated or simply kicked out if they don't act in the interest of the group and the club. But remember, soccer is still just a game; it's a secondary matter. In a country where the Democrats and Republicans dominate every election, things won't improve anywhere, including in sports. You won't get fair officiating as long as you have an unfair system and a public that largely supports it.

I don't know what part of this isn't clear.

So, what's the actual difference between an agent and what you just described?

Seriously, I'm asking you. This is the third time I've asked the same question, and nobody has answered!

What's the difference between this and the agents who spent the whole time cheering for that same Dinamo? They celebrated titles, they celebrated with the players, and they openly admitted, "Yeah, we're agents; we have offices, season tickets, travel perks, and a paycheck," but they just wouldn't cheer against the boss.

People didn't even cheer against the opposition during the big derby; they just celebrated the title. That's even worse coming from the South Side crowd. Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

Edit: I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're under 20—maybe 18 max—because if you were older, you wouldn't be posting such nonsense.

analogheron19, why on earth are my posts getting deleted? I honestly can't wrap my head around it. Can you explain to me why people who were openly attacking others—and even those who were being mocked as Mamić loyalists—can just show up at the stadium today like nothing ever happened? I’ve asked around, but nobody seems to have a straight answer for me... Thanks in advance

slycyclist19 said:Total frauds... just playing with the fans' emotions until the next game

Man, give me a break. You guys are a hundred times more dishonest than those guys from Chicago. Honestly, you could have actually handled that Lisbon series—you had three whole days to set things up so we wouldn't get crushed. But where were you? We were just waiting, and then suddenly, you're out there with that crowd right before the match, acting all wild. Everything else just falls apart. And seriously, I can't believe you're dragging this guy into it again when he hasn't done anything wrong—don't even ask me why, man. It’s just frustrating how you keep spinning these lies. That wasn't a small thing, either. It doesn't matter if someone isn't a "true fan" or whatever labels you use—that's just an excuse to target him. I'm standing by him. You just keep going with your fabrications, making up new stories and feeding the hate just because of the rivalry.

Tyler Jackson56 said:Hey Valsimot, I’m a little lost here—why am I getting my posts deleted? Does anyone actually know why people who were out there attacking others and getting labeled as Mamić loyalists can just show up at the stadium today without any issues? I’ve asked around quite a bit, but nobody seems to have a straight answer for me... Thanks in advance.

Did you really have to go through the trouble of making a whole new handle? Is being called out that painful for you? Good grief. 😢