#5241 ·
@ Dalton’s return....
With Zoran Mamić coming back, things are just getting worse by the minute. We're seeing new generations stepping up (which feels a bit weak given the group's name, but there's a reason for it), and they really need to finish what was started. Once Zoran is back in the mix, we'll see a new offensive aimed at the BBB (anyone thinking the BBB is just going to shrug their shoulders and settle this is dead wrong; the only question is how much gas they have left for a response). There will also be heat directed at certain Dinamo insiders trying to fight Mamić (though there are hardly any left). Honestly, my gut tells me that even a massive prison sentence won't scrub the rot out of this club. Real change isn't coming. These guys are just faceless parasites who know exactly how to thrive within the grey sludge of the system—they're built to survive anything.
Get ready for another round of psychological warfare over the next month or two. We'll see.
@ Tovari, the message, the outbursts, the columns, the Toblerones
I honestly don't get how people can spend over seven days arguing about the same thing. Everyone just digs their heels in and starts swinging arguments—this view versus that view, "you did this" vs "we did that"—it never ends.
The banner is up. Whoever made it isn't going to jump on an American forum to explain their motives or what the writer intended. A provocation is a provocation; clearly, it hit a nerve, and the timing was perfect. The BBB shouldn't waste their energy on the "Tovari" style of drama (and I'm talking to those few sane people here who actually know how to write something meaningful—because they are rare). Whether the banner is good or bad, whether someone is profiting, hurting others, counting cash, or pulling political strings—THAT IS THEIR BUSINESS. Time will tell if it worked, and worrying about it is just noise. The fact remains that the Tovari seem to get exactly what they want (at least that's how it looks to me), while the BBB still has to fight for anything. Most regular Dinamo fans couldn't care less; they're too busy worrying about beer, dodging their wives, or acting like cowards. As long as people keep staring into everyone else's backyard, the trash in their own is just going to pile up. I'm not trying to point fingers at anyone (especially regarding the derby banner; it is what it is), but the bare minimum required for actual change at Dinamo isn't being met by the BBB consistently—AND THAT IS SHOWING UP TO MATCHES IN NUMBERS.
Last season had some decent moments, but overall, if you want respect, you have to show up. 300 people at the Gorica game, or an average of 150, 200, or 300 at Kranjčevića—it doesn't matter. Until people realize that showing up to the match with the group is the foundation of supporter life—and currently our only leverage to demand change—we aren't moving forward. Like I said before, boycotting is a whole different conversation.
I can't say I'm exactly thrilled about the new season, and I certainly don't want to exhaust myself dealing with the Tovari, NH-, or whatever some internet clown thinks. IT'S POINTLESS. It's endless. It's a loop. If you aren't 120% committed to something, it's impossible to know every single detail or nuance, regardless of which side you're on. But apparently, that doesn't stop people from judging, lecturing, or making suggestions... Just look inward, do what you can, fight your own battles, and let other groups handle their own business...
With Zoran Mamić coming back, things are just getting worse by the minute. We're seeing new generations stepping up (which feels a bit weak given the group's name, but there's a reason for it), and they really need to finish what was started. Once Zoran is back in the mix, we'll see a new offensive aimed at the BBB (anyone thinking the BBB is just going to shrug their shoulders and settle this is dead wrong; the only question is how much gas they have left for a response). There will also be heat directed at certain Dinamo insiders trying to fight Mamić (though there are hardly any left). Honestly, my gut tells me that even a massive prison sentence won't scrub the rot out of this club. Real change isn't coming. These guys are just faceless parasites who know exactly how to thrive within the grey sludge of the system—they're built to survive anything.
Get ready for another round of psychological warfare over the next month or two. We'll see.
@ Tovari, the message, the outbursts, the columns, the Toblerones
I honestly don't get how people can spend over seven days arguing about the same thing. Everyone just digs their heels in and starts swinging arguments—this view versus that view, "you did this" vs "we did that"—it never ends.
The banner is up. Whoever made it isn't going to jump on an American forum to explain their motives or what the writer intended. A provocation is a provocation; clearly, it hit a nerve, and the timing was perfect. The BBB shouldn't waste their energy on the "Tovari" style of drama (and I'm talking to those few sane people here who actually know how to write something meaningful—because they are rare). Whether the banner is good or bad, whether someone is profiting, hurting others, counting cash, or pulling political strings—THAT IS THEIR BUSINESS. Time will tell if it worked, and worrying about it is just noise. The fact remains that the Tovari seem to get exactly what they want (at least that's how it looks to me), while the BBB still has to fight for anything. Most regular Dinamo fans couldn't care less; they're too busy worrying about beer, dodging their wives, or acting like cowards. As long as people keep staring into everyone else's backyard, the trash in their own is just going to pile up. I'm not trying to point fingers at anyone (especially regarding the derby banner; it is what it is), but the bare minimum required for actual change at Dinamo isn't being met by the BBB consistently—AND THAT IS SHOWING UP TO MATCHES IN NUMBERS.
Last season had some decent moments, but overall, if you want respect, you have to show up. 300 people at the Gorica game, or an average of 150, 200, or 300 at Kranjčevića—it doesn't matter. Until people realize that showing up to the match with the group is the foundation of supporter life—and currently our only leverage to demand change—we aren't moving forward. Like I said before, boycotting is a whole different conversation.
I can't say I'm exactly thrilled about the new season, and I certainly don't want to exhaust myself dealing with the Tovari, NH-, or whatever some internet clown thinks. IT'S POINTLESS. It's endless. It's a loop. If you aren't 120% committed to something, it's impossible to know every single detail or nuance, regardless of which side you're on. But apparently, that doesn't stop people from judging, lecturing, or making suggestions... Just look inward, do what you can, fight your own battles, and let other groups handle their own business...
