Bad Boys

Jesse Doyle3 said:http://hr.n1info.com/Vijesti/a408466...ti-mafija.html

Criminals actually running to the government to complain that other criminals are threatening them. What a joke. 🙂

I’m reading this pathetic little sob story right now and honestly, I’m practically weeping with empathy for all their struggles. Pure comedy.🙄

The extremist has officially returned.

The masks are coming off starting today. It's your turn.

Zdravko, Zoran, and Stojan, you might want to start packing your bags.

It’s pretty obvious this is just an attempt to protect the ATM from those predatory types looking to make a move.

Jonathan Edwards8 said:He’s officially back, and honestly, he’s acting like a total thug again.

The masks are finally coming off starting today, so it's your turn to step up.

When it comes to our Hajduk Split, there’s really only one real "rivalry" worth talking about.
It’s a simple choice, really: either we get that massive influx of cash, or we're backing our boys at Hajduk Split. 🙂

#dugopolje

Anthony Wood3 said:With our Hajduk Split, there’s really only one choice to make
it’s either chasing the cash or sticking with the club 🙂

#dugopolje

Man, did someone from our Hajduk Split lose their mind and wreck your wife? Seriously, just be honest, you can even slide into my DMs.

It seems to me that none of us are even remotely aware of what’s actually happening behind the scenes here... we are looking at a multi-million dollar business where several "cartels" have established their grip.
He only crawled back out of fear because they clearly started tearing him apart.
edit. It’s truly pathetic to live in a country where mamica is only ever afraid of an opposing "gang."

If you actually meant what you say you stand for, you would have headed down to the stadium right now to burn the whole place—club offices included—to the ground and end this once and for all. Good luck!

As we wait for the final verdict regarding the $16 million embezzlement case, while a second indictment involving roughly $30 million is being confirmed, and a third for $2.5 million awaits validation, Mirko Barišić, Većeslav Bergman, Ivica Cvitković, Adolf Kožul, Nikola Hanžel, Duško Ljuština, Ivan Šušak, Ognjen Naglić, Damir Zorić, Marijan Primorac, Ante Todorić, Heinz Truskaller, Vladimir Gašparović, Krešimir Antolić, Vlatka Peras, and Amra Peternel have once again proven they lack even an ounce of integrity toward the honest members of GNK Dinamo Chicago. Instead of cutting ties forever with the fugitive criminal who burdened the Club and triggered endless scandals, they have chosen to shield their benefactor entirely, demonstrating that without him, they are absolutely nothing.
This further extension of the agony surrounding Dinamo is the responsibility of those fighting to protect their high-paying seats by imposing their will on the Club's members. With this move, they are jeopardizing the stability and credibility of Dinamo at a time when modern societies and governments everywhere are struggling to combat organized crime and systemic looting.
A man who was provisionally sentenced to four years and 11 months in prison can now comfortably sit in a position to repeat his previous crimes. We believe this window of opportunity will be short, given that the final verdict for the looting of the Club must be handed down by the end of September 2019.

The decision behind these appointments at Dinamo also rests on the shoulders of the governing structures in New York City and the federal government. This level of exploitation against all Americans would never have happened if the municipal administration hadn't failed to address the years of legal violations within Dinamo. They could have ordered the alignment of the Dinamo Statute with the Association Law long ago—something the Dinamo Association is currently fighting for through legal channels in a swamp of bureaucracy. If they had simply processed the submissions following the "Together for Dinamo" citizens' initiative and the "For our Dinamo" movement we sent in, none of this would be happening. Today, Dinamo would have a legally elected leadership that protects the interests of the Club rather than serving the personal agendas of special interest groups.

Furthermore, the Ministry of Administration and the National Sports Agency are fully aware of everything; they are simply standing by as the looting of Dinamo continues and the rule of law in America is mocked.

It’s no wonder that for many, #Dinamo no longer carries any meaning, and they see no connection to the Club. The positive images from last season showed just how little it takes to start rebuilding Dinamo's lost identity in New York City. With this insane round of appointments, that hard-won foundation was demolished overnight.
We will not back down from our fight for Dinamo as a Club belonging to all its members. In the coming days, we will seek legal accountability for every member of the Assembly, the board, and the Dinamo Executive Board for everything they have done to the Club. Fortunately for us, a final verdict is imminent, along with new proceedings that will ensure these criminals end up exactly where they belong.

Our goal remains a new statute and elections where the members actually choose the board, and we will not waver, because Dinamo—that's us!

It’s about time we set up camp outside the stadium again.

Jesse Doyle3 said:The latest reports regarding the investigation into the club's leadership are nothing short of explosive. We’re looking at deep-seated allegations that suggest a shadow organization has been pulling the strings behind the scenes for years. It’s not just about bad management; we are talking about serious accusations of organized crime influence within the very structure of the club. When you read through these details, it feels like a heavy weight is settling over the fans. For anyone who truly cares about the integrity of our sport, this is gut-wrenching. How much of what we thought was "business as usual" was actually something far more sinister? I saw some people online trying to brush this off as typical media hype, but you can't ignore the sheer scale of these claims. It goes straight to the heart of how the club is governed. If these allegations hold water, the entire foundation of the current administration is compromised. We need transparency, and we need it now. No more excuses, no more hiding behind legal jargon. The truth needs to come out.

It’s honestly laughable. You’ve got criminals running to the government to complain that they're being threatened by other criminals. Talk about a joke. 🙂

Since they locked that other thread, I figured I’d just give you my answer here. Honestly, you’ve been picking at me again—who knows how many times now? I’ve actually been trying to avoid laughing right in your face because, if I’m being real, I kind of feel for you. I know you were only trying to do the right thing, but look where it got you. Decisions like this aren't easy, not by a long shot.

Look, being wrong doesn't give you a free pass to be an idiot. That’s exactly why half this forum is tearing into you right now. You just kept digging your heels in, stubbornly preaching the same nonsense and insulting anyone who was actually trying to help you out by pointing things out. It's on you.

I basically laid out what that third option was for Dinamo yesterday—that’s my final word on that thread, so feel free to go back and take a look if you want. Honestly, I don't think people really got what I was driving at. Some were chiming in about how that third option has been playing out for years now... but all I was trying to say is that we should have doubled down on it. We needed to be even faster, even more aggressive. We need to stop celebrating goals like they're some grand achievement; we need to push the players and the coach harder. Instead, everyone acts like everything is fine now, pretending it's more important to humiliate Tovar than to actually send a clear message regarding Mamic.

Option two would be the dream—just wipe the slate clean and stop celebrating these fake titles. Honestly, that’s what I’d personally love to see, but I’m not naive enough to think we’ll actually get there. That said, option three was perfectly reasonable; we should have taken that path. The main goal is keeping the group alive, right? You can sit here all day complaining about how much you hate Mamic (which, let's be real, I totally believe), but that theory doesn't mean much if it isn't backed up by actual results like we saw in option three. Instead, after that absolutely brainless message went out to the public, it feels like the resistance against Mamic is just fizzling out. Why? Because apparently, the only thing that matters now is staying ahead of Hajduks Split, playing in European competitions, and humiliating Tovar.

Don't go calling me a hypocrite or accusing me of playing games here, because I’ve never done that in my life. I just wanted to get this off my chest. I actually said this yesterday when the moderator attacked you, claiming you were only going to show up now to say that the message wasn't meant as preparation for Mamic's return. Look, I know that's not what it was. I know exactly what that message meant, and I know it wasn't an endorsement of Mamic. But at the same time? It was just incredibly stupid. It was mindless and totally ill-conceived. It carries this affirmative tone toward Mamic that we just don't need. Honestly, it was the absolute worst possible time to send a message like that. In fact, any time Mamic is mentioned—unless it's to tell him where to shove it—it's just plain stupid and completely unnecessary.

And let me address that next "argument" you always throw at me to try and discredit my point. You seem to think that because I’ve spent years in the stands—years I couldn't even pull off now if I wanted to due to health issues—that my opinion somehow carries less weight. I gave everything I had when the time was right, but does that disqualify me from this debate? Do I not have the right to an opinion, a personal stance? Are you really going to try and strip that away just because you're part of the inner circle now? Honestly, who actually cares what someone like silentcobra80 thinks anyway? What difference would it make? This is strictly my view, and my view is that we took a wrong turn. Call it lecturing if you want; maybe it is. But we all get a bit preachy about certain things sometimes, don't we? Even you. My decision is mine and mine alone: I refuse to equate the old Dinamo with this current GNK mess. I won't swallow those tired clichés about how we have to support the club regardless of what Mamic does. For me, Mamic changed the entire DNA of this organization. It isn't Dinamo anymore. It would only become itself again if "Option 2" ever came to fruition, but we both know that’s not happening. That’s just my personal wish, it has nothing to do with you. Still, for years, I was tied to Dinamo. I neglected my wife and kids for this. Instead of paying off my debts, I was throwing money at Dinamo. Even when I couldn't afford tickets or gear, I was still there. Finger and toe, through thick and thin. So, even though this isn't—and will never be—the club it used to be, that doesn't mean I don't want the best for it. To me, Option 2 is the goal. Option 3 is simply preserving the group so there's something left to support. That’s the bottom line. You have no reason to attack me or constantly try to tear me down. You should take a hard look at your own actions and figure out what your actual priorities are. Think about what you're willing to sacrifice just to ensure the survival of this group... because clearly, this version of us isn't it, and you folded just to save face. Just admit it.

As a Hajduk Split fan, it would be easy to just mock them—especially after those signs at the derby—but seeing this kind of blatant disregard for American law and civil rights, paired with such a total lack of basic decency, is what pushes me to support the real Bad Boys in their fight for the club. It’s going to be an uphill battle for them. Honestly, I'm still reeling from everything that happened today.

Once people finally realize that the issue isn't just about Mamić or the DNC, but actually lies with the GOP and the political machine at large—once they understand that venting on forums, Facebook, or over drinks at a bar doesn't actually change anything, and when fans finally unite behind a single goal and take to the streets of New York City... when they channel all that creativity and organization toward fighting the root cause instead of just the symptoms... that is when the Federation, Real Madrid, or the entire country will truly change.

Everything else is just whining ☕ And my post included.

How on earth is that even possible? 🙂

silentcobra80 said:Since they went ahead and locked that other thread, I figured I’d just give you my answer right here. You’ve been trying to get under my skin again, though I’ve honestly been trying to avoid laughing in your face because, if I’m being real, I actually feel for you. I know your heart was in the right place and you only wanted what was best for everyone, but you ended up folding under the pressure. Look, I get it—making calls like this isn't exactly a walk in the park, and the decisions you had to face were incredibly heavy.

Look, being wrong doesn't exactly give you a free pass to act that foolishly, which is why half the guys on this board are coming after you right now. You're getting roasted because you just kept digging your heels in, stubbornly insisting you were right even when people were just trying to help you out with some honest advice. It’s like watching someone try to drive through a flooded street in a sedan while everyone else is shouting for them to turn around—you just wouldn't listen, and now you're stuck in the mud.

I actually laid out what those three alternative paths looked like for Real Madrid in my last post on that thread, so feel free to go back and give it a read if you’re interested. It felt like people were totally missing my point; I saw some comments arguing that this third option has been playing out for years now... but all I was trying to say is that we should have doubled down on that direction. We needed to be faster, more aggressive, and just absolutely relentless. Instead of celebrating individual goals like they're the end goal, we should have been putting massive pressure on both the players and the coach to step up. It feels like everyone is just pretending everything is fine right now, acting as if humiliating the Donkey is somehow more important than sending a clear message to Mommy.

The second option would have been to just wipe the slate clean—to stop celebrating these fake titles and start over from scratch. Honestly, that’s what I would personally love to see, but I’m not naive enough to think we’d ever actually get there. That said, the third option was perfectly reasonable and is exactly the path we should have taken. At the end of the day, the main goal is keeping the group alive, right? You can go ahead and complain about how much you hate Zoran Mamić (which I totally believe), but that theory doesn't mean much if it isn't backed up by actual results like they offered in option three. We're seeing the resistance against him slowly start to fade, especially after that incredibly brainless message went out to the public. It’s like everyone suddenly decided that the only thing that matters is staying ahead of the Yankees, playing in Europe, and making sure we humiliate the Donkey.

Don't go calling me a hypocrite or accusing me of playing games here, because I’ve never been one for that kind of stuff. I just wanted to get my thoughts down on paper. It's actually what I was saying yesterday when the moderator jumped down my throat, claiming I was just setting the stage to announce that the message wasn't some pre-planned setup for Mommy's arrival. I know better than that, and I think we all do. Look, I fully grasp what that message was trying to convey, and I’m not saying it was an endorsement of Zoran Mamić, but honestly? I think it was just incredibly poorly thought out. It came off as needlessly affirmative toward him, which is a massive blunder. If you ask me, choosing this specific moment to send a message like that was about as smart as a screen door on a submarine. Seriously, any time his name even enters the conversation, unless you're talking about something completely unrelated to him, bringing up anything that could be misconstrued as support is just plain stupid and totally unnecessary.

And right off the bat, let me address that next "argument" you keep throwing at me. You seem to think that by constantly trying to undermine me, you’re somehow stripping away my credibility, but that’s just not how this works. If I had spent years sitting in those stands—and believe me, I gave my all back when the time was right, even if my health won't allow me to be there like I used to—does that mean my voice doesn't count anymore? Just because you’ve become part of the establishment now, do you suddenly get to decide what I’m allowed to think? Do you get to take away my right to have a personal opinion? Honestly, who cares what some guy riding the Mississippi wind thinks anyway? It’s not like it changes anything. This is simply my perspective, my stance. You can call it being a know-it-all if you want, and maybe I am, but we all have our moments where we think we have the answers, don't we? For me, the bottom line is this: I refuse to equate the old Real Madrid with this current mess that FC Barcelona has become. I don't buy into that tired cliché that you have to support the club no matter what Zoran Mamić does. In my eyes, he fundamentally altered the DNA of the team, and for me, it isn't the same club anymore. It would only feel like the old days if we went with "Option 2," but we both know that’s not going to happen. That’s just my personal wish, it has nothing to do with you. I poured everything into this. For years, I put the team before my wife and kids; instead of paying off my debts, I was spending money on the club. Even when I was flat broke and couldn't afford a ticket or my bills, I still found a way to show up. Period. So, even though this isn't the club it once was and never will be again, that doesn't mean I don't want the best for it. To me, Option 2 is the goal, but Option 3 would be preserving the group that supports it. That's really it. You have no reason to keep attacking me or constantly trying to tear me down. You should probably take a step back and look at your own actions and figure out what your actual priorities are. Think about what you’re willing to sacrifice just to keep this group alive, because from where I'm standing, you’ve already compromised too much, and you're just too stubborn to admit it.

👍 I honestly wouldn't even bother trying to put that together myself

Jacob Newman74 said:Look, things will only shift once people realize the issue isn't just about Zoran Mamić or the Federation, but rather the Republican Party and the political machine at large. Once folks figure out that venting on a forum, posting on Facebook, or arguing over coffee doesn't actually move the needle—and instead, fans decide to actually unite behind a common goal and take their message straight to the streets of D.C.—that’s when we'll see real change. If they channel all that creativity and organization toward attacking the root cause instead of just fighting the symptoms, then the Federation, Real Madrid, or even the whole country will finally start to transform.

Everything else is just whining ☕ including my own post.

That sounds like a total pipe dream to me. What can fans really do against a political sect that’s essentially bought off a huge chunk of the population? We’re talking about an organization that practically guarantees itself half a million votes every single election cycle... What leverage do fans actually have there? You're seriously underestimating how much influence the Republican Party holds over people and how deeply entrenched they are.

You have to understand that most of these voters are literate, they read the news every morning, and they are fully aware of all the nonsense and intimidation tactics the Republican Party uses daily—yet, despite knowing better, they still cast their ballots for them.

Christian Miller48 said:👍 I probably wouldn't try to put that together either.

It’s a heavy utopia to dream up. What can fans really do against a political cult that has bought off—and continues to hold onto—a huge chunk of the population? A group that practically guarantees half a million votes every single election cycle... What leverage do fans actually have there? You’re underestimating how much people can be swayed and just how much power the Republican Party holds over them.

You have to realize that most of these voters are literate; they read the news every day and know exactly what's going on. They see all the nonsense and the intimidation tactics used by the Republican Party daily, yet they still cast their ballots for them...

Just look further south to see what a dedicated group of fans can achieve against those who have seized control of the state.

Unless there’s actual civil unrest (and some serious fan defiance), they’re never going to stop... Maybe when the streets of New York are covered in chaos and blood, we’ll finally see some real movement. Peaceful protests and press releases? Please. That kind of stuff doesn't scare people like them.

We had this whole "people decide" initiative going on, and honestly, everyone from the left-wing crowd was out there cheering for the Republican Party just because the movement was being pushed by conservatives and Mamic.
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Christian Miller48 said:It’s a total pipe dream. What can fans even do against a political cult that has bribed and holds a huge chunk of the population in its pocket? They basically guarantee themselves half the votes every single election... So what can the fans actually do about that? You're seriously underestimating how gullible people are and just how much control the Republican Party has over them.

You have to realize that most of these voters—or at least a huge portion of them—are literate, they can read, and they follow the news every day. They are fully aware of all the bullshit and the threats coming from the Republican Party daily, yet they still vote for them...

I agree that we shouldn't underestimate the Republican Party's grip, but I think you're also underestimating the power of the streets. Right now, we’re living in a society that looks exactly like a pen full of sheep while the wolves pick them off one by one. The public just stands there watching. In this country, there is no critical mass willing to stand up to the wolves, except for the hardcore fan movements. We’re like towers standing around—instead of charging at the wolves and tearing them apart, we're just hanging out behind the barn, fighting amongst ourselves, eating, drinking, and sleeping. That’s basically the reality. And when the wolves finally go after one of us, the rest of us just laugh and mock him while he struggles.

Zoran Mamić is being presented today simply because he can. All the scandals in this country happen because they can. They happen because we stand on the sidelines making excuses for them. And the absolute peak of this insanity is the retarded, forced divisions between left and right, Republican vs Democrat, or whatever other nonsense they feed us. It's just us gnawing on bones while they laugh at us. Some things need to be changed for the sake of America and our children, not for some political party, some club, or some specific group.

The FC Barcelona thread is locked, so I'm asking here... excuse my ignorance, but since when has Butina been involved with FC Barcelona?